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The Great Debate

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The Great Debate
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episode 3
all others suck ass
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>>81646894
>not episode ii and episode v

Do you even pottery?
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V > VI > VII > IV > I > III > II
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IV > VI > V > III > RI > I > VII > II
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>>81647209
Holy shit you have terrible taste
KYS
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Googling that image only show episode 3, anybody have the others that similar to OP?
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Episode 3
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episode 3 is unironically the best star wars ever made
best dialogue and quotes
best characters
best world designs
best story
its a rollercoaster of emotions, and the end always gets me teary eyed
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>>81647209
wrong
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>>81647269
http://rebloggy.com/post/star-wars-the-empire-strikes-back-return-of-the-jedi-a-new-hope-jedi-the-phantom/40041446214
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>>81646894
This isn't even a debate, it's:

5 > 4 > 6 > 7 >>>>>>>> 1 > 3 > 2

>>81647256
Calm down loser lol

>>81647284
>>81647291
What if I told you reddit re watched the prequels and actually likes them now?
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>>81646894
>Episode V is in the Library of Congress
>Episode III isn't

hmm
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>>81647459
sup disneycuck
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>>81647209
>I>III

how does it feel to have shit taste
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>>81647459
>7 >>>>>>>> 1 > 3 > 2

>>>/r/eddit
>>>/v/
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4>3>5>6>7>2>1

This is the definite order.
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>>81647459
Do you think I give a shit what Reddit does you whore of Disney?
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>>81647459>>81647209
Hella epic lack of individual opinion! High five bros
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5>4>3>6>7>1>2

Any other opinions are reddit
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>>81647565
putting 5 before 4 is reddit shit, dumbass.
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Why do so many people hate 6? Is it because they only watch mature films for mature men like themselves? It's objectively way better than the second half of 4 and slightly better than everything except for training scenes in 5.
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>>81647600
because ewoks
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>>81647600
it's a good movie but the whole ewoks and destroying the empire in that shitty little forest with a dozen guys is really underwhelming. the emperor scenes are kino though.
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>>81647595
wrong
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>>81647611
That's what I'm saying. Ewoks are not dark and mature enough for mature men like themselves. Eworks aren't bad though, they're just silly.
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>>81647631
Jabba scenes are kino as well. And Luke is finally an actual character.
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>>81647635
t.reddit cuck
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>>81647663
t. Being contrarian to mask the reddit
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V > III > IV > VII > VIII > I > II

This is objectively the correct order.
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>>81647542
>>81647481
>happen to think TFA wasn't bad

Shill! Cuck! Is that seriously all you got?

>>81647513
>reddit hates the prequels so I like em!

Do you have any idea how pathetic you are?
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>>81647726
>VIII
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>tv doesn't pretend to hate 3 anymore
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>tfw you realise star wars CANON is 3-R1-4-5-6 and everything else is non-canon trash
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>>81647772
reddit actally love prequels now, but I agree with him that putting VII above anything is the most reddit thing
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>>81647565
The most correct opinion ITT
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>>81647799
They pretend to like it now
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>>81647837
People don't love the prequels now they've just found appreciation for them after episode 7 and seeing star wars become a pandering rehash that only exists to make money
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3 is the worst star wars movie
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>>81647681
Episode 5 is literally shit compared to Episode 4. it's not contrarianism, it's the truth.
go back to whatever movie or starwars subreddit you came out of pleb.
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>>81648078
Must suck to be so wrong
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>>81648103
yes, yes, tell me, how does it feel?
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>>81647209
Niggers can't into films.
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>>81647253
this one is pretty close to my own opinion desu
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>>81648078
The start of 4 is great. But you can't seriously think that the second half of the movie where they goof around in the death star is actually good? It's shit, it's almost shockingly shit.
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Watching the prequels ironically > Watching the OT unironically > Watching paint dry > Watching the Disney Wars flicks
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>>81647461
Prequels (particulary 2 and 3) do amazing redpilll on 9/11 and basically all others false flag incidents that provoked war, of course it will never be in "Library of Jewgress". Unlike "those are good guys, those are bad. Good guys suck and getting betrayed by themeselves, bad guys win" flick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvoFQ6E60Bc
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>>81648225
Watching prequels when you're 10 > watching OT when you're 20 > watching dog eat poo > watching grandma die when you're 25 > watching nu-T when you're 30
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III was a kino
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VI > V > IV > R1 > III > VII > II > 1
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>>81647459
>What if I told you reddit re watched the prequels and actually likes them now?
But redditlettermedia 'proved' the prequels are terrible.
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III>IV>V>I>II>VII
Thread is finished, this is /tv/'s official rating (Disney shills and r*ddit will dispute this)
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>>81648314
Shit I forgot VI, that goes after V and before I
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>>81648314
Would unironically be correct if George didn't overproduce the final fight.
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The most popular ranking is usually the right one - because normies can recognise sub-par and terrible movies themselves, and critics can more-or-less determine what is decent vs what is exceptional.

The problem is that NEETS obsess about signalling they have better taste than normies. Even when normies have the correct opinion you will get people on /tv/ who HAVE to think differently because they identify as not being normies. That's why you get so many tier-fags who think that 'the correct level of contrarianism' is the same thing as good taste.

Don't think in terms of factions, tiers, or levels. Think in terms of quality.

5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 1 > 2
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>>81648477

This
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I'm sorry, but could the reddit fags fuck off my board? Thank you

V > R1 > IV > VII > III > VI > II > I
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>>81648537
Reddit fucking loves ep 7 you plebeian
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V and IV are objectively the best, I think most can agree with this. After that it's all subjective opinion.

For me it's:
V >>> IV > III > VI > VII >>> R1 > I > II

R1, I and II are shit and the rest are decent with Empire being fantastic and far above the rest of the star wars movies. III is seriously underrated by plebs and is a blast to watch.
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>>81648477
you have a bad opinion
>>81648502
you too

kys yourselves

>>81648555
rewatch I lad, it's decent. far better than VII
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>>81648555
checked, but i think IV>V, and then everything else is spot on.
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>>81648477
>Think in terms of quality.
Quality of what? SW is trash in terms of quality. If I think in terms of quality, I wouldn't watch this trash. It has value bacause I'm invested in SW universe. It's a good universe. But the movies themslevs are trash, they're not even worth seeing really, not in this day and age. Logan's Run is better than half of SW films, who gives a shit about it now?
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V > IV > III > VI >II >VII > I
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>>81648477
sup reddit
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>>81646894
More like the great bait
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>>81647799
The final 15 minutes are absolute shite though, otherwise It's fine
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>>81648555
>V >>>
STOP REPEATING MEMES. Look at the actual scenes, are they any good? Is the cave scene good? Nope, trash. Is the hoth battle good? It was great back in the day, now it's just shitty special effect for 30 minutes. Are the training scenes good? If you ignore the shittiest puppet in all cinema, they are. Is the sky city cool? Nope, just people walking along boring shit corridors. Is the final battle any good? It's alright for the 2 minutes it lasts, but nothing special. So why exactly is everyone obsessed with that movie? It is objectively subpar.
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The prequels are pretty good desu. Arguably III is the best in the entire saga
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>>81648477
>1 > 2

I'll never understand this tbqh, for me episode 1 is the worst and it's not even close
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>>81647517
My order is similar, but:

4 > 3 > 5 > 6 > 1 > 2 >>>>>>>> 7
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>>81648660
This.

I don't think 1 is a bad movie but fucking hell it's boring, trade federations, blockades and deserts. it's just boring as fuck except for the maul lightsaber fight and podracing scene.
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>>81648648
>Look at the actual scenes, are they any good?

t. Hack Snyder

People want to watch a movie not a series of scenes.
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>>81648726
>>81648660

It's the Anakin / Padme scenes that doom II. Both Hayden and the script were shitty.
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>>81648735
People want to repeat shit opinions they can't defend. 5 is no good.
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>>81648648
>Look at the actual scenes, are they any good?

Yes they are pleb. It's got great suspenseful action, likable and interesting characters, a fantastic training scene, a dark tone but still manages to be a fun star wars movie unlike rouge one, and of course one of the best movie climaxes of all time and an amazing twist, the last 20 minutes of Empire is some of the finest film making of all time. The plot is paced to perfection and information is given in an intelligent way that respects the viewers. It is the perfect action/adventure movie, you can't see this because you suffer from pleb movie-watcher syndrome but hopefully you will see the light someday.
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>>81646894
>III
>Good in any way
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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>>81648813
Hello there reddit
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>>81648782
2 big problems with the movie. 1 - the stakes in the battle on hoth are never clear. Why should we care? What's the context? Why would I give a shit if some base is blown up or not? So the entire battle just becomes a special effects scene with no story behind it. Half an hour of nothing, pretty much 2 - how amazingly dull sky city is. There's nothing there. You can cut out all of those scenes and let Vader capture our guys right away.
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>>81646904
>>81646917
>>81647256
>>81647284
>>81647291
>>81647291
>>81647291
>>81647481
>>81647513
>>81648078
>>81648265
>>81648314
>>81648648
>>81648698

You have autism.
To the one who got 3 consecutive (You)s, you have turbo-autism. KYS. Now.
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>>81647209
>being a tripfag AND having shit taste
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>>81647209
>VII > IV
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>>81648869
I refuse to believe anyone who is this much of a moron can operate a keyboard. Stop trolling.
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>>81648869
>the stakes in the battle on hoth are never clear.

Wut?? The movie clearly explains that the majority of the rebel alliance is stationed on hoth if I remember correctly. What more of a stake could there be than total destruction of the rebels??
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>>81648755
But that's like 4 or 5 scenes out of the whole movie that are bad. Meanwhile, The Phantom Menace has only 4 or 5 good scenes and the rest are bad.
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>>81648870
sup reddit
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>>81647209
V>VI>III>IV=VII>II>I
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>>81648903
>the majority of the rebel alliance is stationed on hoth
So? Why do I care? If they win this battle, how do they survive the next one? They can't defend against all the Empire, so what am I looking at exactly and why should I care? It's clear that the battle is filler and has no point in the movie.
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>>81648905
>describing anything as reddit

I'm not saying having autism makes you a bad person, but you're getting mad at people for being normal, and trying to make your autism everyone else's problem, and that makes you an Asshole. Grow the fuck up.
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>>81648901
Okay, explain to my why I can't skip all of the sky city scenes and jump right to Vader.
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>>81648648
>Is the cave scene good?
yes
>Is the hoth battle good?
yes
>Are the training scenes good?
yes
>Is the sky city cool?
yes
>Is the final battle any good?
yes

you didn't prove Empire is shit, you just proved you have shit taste in cinema
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>>81648973
t. OT drone
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>>81648947
>Why do I care?

Because they are the heroes of the story and the first movie teaches you about how the rebels are fighting the tyrannical empire.

>It's clear that the battle is filler and has no point in the movie.

The point of the battle is to show how relentless and overpowering the empire are to the rebels, how they are never safe. It's also used to get the plot going.

There is nothing wrong with the opening battle scene.
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>>81648904
The vast majority of II is highschool drama-tier bullshit in front of bland greenscreen backgrounds. Phantom Menace may be a trainwreck, but at least it's vivid and has imaginative things going on.
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>>81648961
because you'll miss the story and character development, sky city scenes are literally essential for understanding the plot you moron, stop trolling
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>>81648905
hola reddito
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>>81648947
>I don't understand how things work and should probably stop posting
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>>81648961
>feed my autism

Gonna pass.
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>>81648988
t. pleb-quel pleb
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>>81648957
calm down reddit. we get it you love disney and feminism.
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V>IV>III=VI>>>I>II>>>>>>>>>>>>VII
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>>81648660
II has

>worse dialogue
>worse soundtrack
>worse effects
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>>81649096
>>worse soundtrack

Fuck no
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It's interesting to live in the world where you grew up enjoying the prequels and all the great games with great designs from the prequels and then be told by people that actually you didn't enjoy that stuff because it's trash.

I can't enjoy the original trilogy, it's campy, it's a lot of desert followed by a lot of missed shots followed by space action that i never really cared about. In the ep V it's a lot of snow. In ep 6 it's desert yet again.

Yes, prequel trilogy has ridiculous romance, but when viewed as a quintessential retardation of Hollywood romances it's fun and can be enjoyed. CGI sucks but at a point where most of cgi sucks for you it also can be enjoyed. Politics suck but in reality for me they don't, i enjoy all that convoluted madness, not as high art but as comfy background noice.

The only thing that i really don't like from trilogy is anakin's transformation: i don't understand the exact point where he went blindly "evil" and then became reasonably evil as vader. Maybe he had time to contemplate his life choices like hatin on padme and obi wan even though he did stuff in the name of padme but I'm not into EU stuff so i don't know if it was explored.
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>>81649096
>worse soundtrack

How can one person be so wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nk_WHHTQtY
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How can people unironically put III above I? Is it the cartoon robot lizard? The atrocious 15 minute CGI lava fight? Anakin's 90 second conversion to the dark side? Obi-Wan's lizard ride?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
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>>81649067
Nice fedora, neck-beard. Now let's skip to the part where you die alone.
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>>81648957
>you're getting mad at people for being normal
Normies aren't wanted here.
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>>81649154
KYS, millennial scum.
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>>81649178
Everyone is normal but you. End it.
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>>81649096
>worse dialogue
At least shit happens in II, even if the dialogue is bad. I had so much dialogue, which wasn't that great either.
>worse soundtrack
Fair point, but 2 has good music too
>worse effects
II has more effects though
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>>81649233
Not him but II was shot on really shit early digital film, so looks far worse overall
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>>81649183
if you were at the opening of ep IV and still consider it great cinema it's probably time to take your alzheimer medicine, grandpa.
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>>81646894
IV > V > VI > III > RO > VII > I > II
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>>81646894
Not a debate. Prequels are shit in almost every single objective way of measuring a movie

>LE EPIC FIGHT THO XD!
>LE SHEEV!
>B-BUT MY CHILDHOOD

>>81649183
/thread

>>81649271
Kill yourself.

Your defense was more or less "Yeah these things aren't good but I like them personally arbitrarily, also the originals are bad because I don't understand film.

I'm not sure who's worse, prequel defenders or BvS defenders. I think I've just decided its the former. At least Synder had good cinematography and sets/costumes.
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>>81647209
V > VI > IV > III > VII >I > II

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L63In39n86c
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>>81646894
Those are the two best in the franchise
ESB wins it though.
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III >>> IV > V > Trash > VI > I > VII > II
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>>81649331
Both originals and prequels are bad, sorry. I hope they won't revoke your film expert license for thinking that originals are good.
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>>81646904
>>81647291
>>81647284
>>81647481
>>81647513
>>81647517
>>81647565
>>81647726
>>81648265
>>81648289
>>81648314
>>81648593
>>81648698
All wrong.

>117/46
90% sure half these are samefag defenders of that shit movie. Revenge of the Sith is a bad fucking movie. The use of an "arc" doesn't make it any better when its so contrived and so poorly executed.

Return has far better actors, far more meaningful action, and the redemption arc, plus the emperor when he's not literally a spinning screaming meme.

>>81649473
Originals are serviceable, prequels are far worse. They're not anywhere near the same level of quality even if neither are "great"
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>>81649331
Go back to shitposting, I can already tell you're cinematically illiterate from all the buzzwords you spout. How does Snyder have good cinematography? You probably can't even explain why the originals are good. Typical /mu/ kid who just spouts opinions that seem popular, and starts spouting buzzwords when someone disagrees with him.
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>>81649573
kys reddit
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>>81649580
Lmao.

I guess words with three syllables are buzzwords now. I'm sorry you're still in highschool, but when you grow up you might begin to understand why the prequels are bad. Until then enjoy them while it lasts.

>>81649600
*Tips virginity*
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5 is the only good one.

5 IS THE ONLY GOOD ONE.
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>>81649741
>image.jpg
nevermind, I thought you were actually serious. carry on your shitposting and EPIC TROLLING XDXD
III is universally loved here
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>>81649772
hack snyder is also univeraslly loved here
doesn't mean his movies are actually good
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>>81649772
>Universally.
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>>81649815
Yes and the masses still love marvel after the 15th flick in a row, they clearly cannot be trusted with any sort of credibility.
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>>81649876
Neither does /tv/ when they like the prequels and zack snyder.
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>>81649876
>>81649876
>Masses love Marvel therefore they're retarded
>DCEU is kino! Look at the profit in only 4 movies! Clearly Marvel will be BTFO!

Which one is it DCuck
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>>81649894
lmao at the disneyshills always defending star wars and marvel. try to be more subtle.
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>>81649894
Proof shills are on this board.
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>>81650015
>>81650087
>use a memeword to shut someoene up without actual discussion
nice sjw tactics
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I > II > VII > III > VI > IV > V
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>>81650139
nice false flagging you pathetic disneyshill.
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>>81650204
case in point
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>>81650191
ebin, simply ebin
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>>81648660
I has more practical effects and actual sets. Plus liam neeson and while darth maul is ultimately wasted his light saber fight is the best in the series.
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>kino tier
III, I, Clone Wars
>HEY YOU KIDS WE REMEMBER GOING TO THE MOVIES TO SEE THESE AS KIDS tier
IV,V,VI
>god fucking awful tier
II, VII, Rogue One
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>>81648869
>b8

The open credits clearly establish that Hoth is one of the rebels last remaining bases. That's if the presence of all the main characters didn't give it's importance away.

>2

You have a point with cloud city being boring which is why on the re-releases they added exterior shoots and windows to the hallways.
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>>81650337
Is Rogue One that bad? I'm planning on watching it tomorrow
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>>81650569
It's not bad, but not good. It's pretty forgettable and it didn't make me wanna rewatch it as much as TFA did.
The story was completely unnesecary and the original trilogy circlejerk is at it's worst in this movie.
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>>81647209
Everyone hates you, fucking tripfag Nigger.
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>>81650569
It's pretty bad. All the characters are lame, our MC as an example is already super powerful when she starts out and doesn't have any kind of arc. Darth Vader doesn't come in contact with the main story, so it's like two completely seperate stories we switch between for him. The action looks pretty bad, the bright sand oasis planet doesn't blend well visually with the blaster shots. Redeeming qualities is the exploration, they travel to many different worlds and walk around a bit and they're visually pleasing yet derivative. Overall 2/10 movie, it's barely a movie desu.
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>>81650337
>>81650569
>>81650663

Rogue One is 10x better than TFA
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>>81650891
Why? And don't just say some reasons why TFA is super terrible, tell me what you liked about Rouge One.
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>>81646917

>pottery

Why do only nu-males use this word when talking about movies?
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>>81650663
see im the opposite, i've seen TFA twice and have no desire to watch it ever again. it's unoriginal pandering trash. i can just watch a new hope with better characters better acting and better story.

R1 while definitely not perfect i find much more refreshing because it's something new. and i enjoyed the world building that TFA just failed at.
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>>81651002
I don't see how R1 is new at all. It's an unnesecary story that was made because of 1 line in the opening credits. It's an even bigger cirlcjerk than TFA, especially the end scene with Vader. When i saw that i could imagine manchildren cheering out loud in the theaters. TFA also had those things but kept it more as easter eggs rather than whole scenes.
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>>81649573
fucking pleb

back in the day you'd be one of the morons calling Blade Runner shit when it came out

kids these days have no respect for art
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>>81651253

It isn't. It's just an anthology movie that's an excuse to delve back into the OT, and frankly i don't mind. TFA on the other hand had no business retreading old territory. As the start of a new era it should have been completely different.

At least the last jedi looks like it MIGHT finally be moving forward.
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>>81646894
V>IV>RO>VI>III>I>II>>>>>>>>fanfiction>>>>>>>>>horseshit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VIII>VII
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>>81647799
They'll start to hate it again when /r/prequelmemes becomes bigger.
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>>81647799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT7vD8uAGEQ

This was pure kino. Best Star Wars opening.
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V > IV > III > VI > I > II > VII
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>>81649067
>>81649167

like pottery again
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>>81648937
God tier rating
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>>81648937
switch I and II and thats the best agreement that we can have here.
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VII>III>>>>>>>VI>V>IV>I>II
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>>81651678
Can't argue with this

Ep VII was utter shit, I don't know how it gets so much praise
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I>II>III>IV>V>VI>VII
jeez no one in this thread knows how to count
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>>81652860
UNO DOS TRES QUATRO
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At the end of the day it really does come down to these two films, doesn't it?
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>>81652927

MATTIE TOLD HATTIE
BOUT A THING SHE SAW
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>>81648947
They're not trying to win the battle, the moment they identify the Imperial probe they begin prepping to evacuate.

The battle is a fighting retreat for the Rebellion against a resurgent Empire that's recovered from the destruction of the Death Star. The whole idea is to convey that the stakes have risen since the farm boy got the lucky shot against the doomsday machine.
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>>81649068
This nigga gets it.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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