Why aren't Michael Moore movies as popular as they used to be?

>>81616568
We can just turn on CNN if we want leftist propaganda shoved down our throats.

>>81616568
He hasn't made anything edgy enough

>>81616568
i saw Fahrenheit 9/11 in theaters while i was high on mushrooms

>>81616568
The real question is: why were his old shitty movies somewhat popular?

>>81616686
>"it's time for white men to go extinct" and "anyone who shoots a US soldier is a hero" weren't edgy enough

>>81616622

>>81616720
He was just riding on the 9/11 conspiracy popularity of the 2000s. And making a Columbine documentary was pretty edgy at it's time.

Now even the left don't like him because he's a Fucking White Male.

Trumpland was shot in 11 days and is composed of footage of Moore standing at a podium talking. It was never going to make anything.

The 2020 Trump documentary will be the next fahrenheit 9/11. Provided the USA still exists by that point.

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>>81616736

The idea, that white people ought to replaced through non-white replacement migration would have made you a lunatic 60 years ago, a radical 30 years ago, and a progressive today.

So no, there's nothing edgy about promoting the idea that white people need to go the way of the dodo. It's part of the spectrum of ideas in the political mainstream in 2017.

>>81616686
its really tiring

>wow, lets pay good money and spend 2 hrs of our time to watch EVEN MORE trump bashing!

>>81616939
Why would the USA not exist?

>>81618266
Because Trump is in charge

>>81618426
So why would the USA not exist?

>>81618426
kys

>>81618426
America has survived 5 globalist warmongers in a row. I'm sure we can handle a 6th.

>>81618466
Because he is going to run it into the ground, he already declared war on the Syrian government
>>81618580
But none of the previous globalism warmongering where people with a massive ego with a thin skin.

>>81618660
How is he going to run it into the ground? And when was war declared?

>>81616568
The world moved on

>>81618821
By letting horrible legislation pass, repeal good administration and fill his cabinet with people who are unqualified for their position who will in turn ruin their departments . You know the things he has done so far

He bombed a government military base, is that not a declaration of war?

>>81619123
nope, go read a book

>>81616568
hes let his politics take over

yes he was always political, but now hes just pissing in the wind

>>81616568
His main audience were white males.
These days they are overwhelmingly right wing.
That's all there's to it.

>>81619187
OK

What book should I read?

But how is bombing a government not a declaration of war?

>>81619123
What horrible legislation?
What does that even mean?
Like who? And how?
No, no it is not.

>>81619307
By that logic I believe Obama declared war on at least half a dozen countries

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>>81619123
lol

>drumpf will crash the markets and end the world

relax

>>81619123
You have to be over 18,white and straight to post here.

>>81619123
>He bombed a government military base, is that not a declaration of war?
Never heard of gunboat diplomacy I see

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>>81618266

>>81619310
How about making it legal for coal companies to dump their spill in rivers? You want that?
>>81619349
Did he bomb their government?

>>81619489
>Implying China wouldn't get just as fucked by rising sea levels
There goes Guangzhou, Shanghai and Hong Kong

>>81619410
Usually doesn't involve them firing

>>81619624
Has since the 90's famalam, or did you think Clinton declared war on Serbia too?

>>81619604
At least they are doing something against the problem, unlike American.

>>81619668
Yes

T. Serb

>>81619531
I dont believe the law is worded that way at all, and if you do I cant help you.
So you think the government is a centralized location that Trump alone decided to bomb?

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>>81619717
>At least they are doing something against the problem, unlike American.

>>81619717
What do you legitimately believe is going to happen to the United States as a direct result of climate change?

>>81619773
Well you got F-117A schematics out of it, can't complain too much

>>81619780
Well it's not worded like that but that's what it says

No not alone but he is the commander in chief and he makes the order.
>>81619797
And they are doing what they can to drop that level while expanding their renewable energy sector.

Again unlike American, where the head of the environmental protection denies that CO2 plays a role in global warming

>>81620018
Are you saying that China's growing emissions and the US's shrinking emissions are justified because the US says mean things and China says nice things?

>>81619854
Rising sea level, hurricanes and hurricanes becoming worse, water shortage, temperature rise effecting humans, flora and fauna, a rise in invasive species, soil possibly becoming worse and environmental changes

>>81616568
Couldn't criticise his jewish overlords during Obama years and the public forgot about him

>>81620018
You can't just up sticks and kill entire states job markets to feel better about yourself, China can because they don't give a fuck how many coal miners die in their poorly ventilated, underpaid, black lung riddled shitholes while switching to alternative sources

>>81620059
No I'm going by action not what they say

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>>81620186
>action
>just showed you that China is increasing emissions and the US is educing emissions

>>81616568
Why is Michael Moore trying to turn into a fat lesbian?

I can't believe Michael Moore is not dead

>>81620018
So youre against the free market and businesses being incorporated legally? Gotcha
So he bombed as you said "the government", how does one bomb "the government"
>>81620059
what he said. Actions speak louder then words, and China has done far more to fuck up the environment then we will

>>81620208
>Chart only goes to 2012
Meanwhile Trump put a guy who hates the EPA and wants it gone in charge of EPA

>>81620186

so by action you mean pointless statments made to the public?

>>81620213
Needs to stay relevant, reminder he was going on about how the electoral college is shit but was absolutely butthurt about how if Al Gore won the Florida votes it all would have been different when Bush won

>>81616622
This, my famalam

>>81620138
So basically almost all of these problems (most of which only affect a small percentage of the population) can be solved by simply moving away from the already overly crowded coastline to the fresh land waiting to be used in the middle of the country? Cool thanks Ill alert the president

>>81620276
Care to provide newer statistics to back up your counter-claim then?

>>81620245
I'm against dumping material that posses a massive health hazard in water streams
By bombing something like a military base, which is run by the government

>>81620277
No I mean increased spending in renewable energy sources
>>81620359
Not really no, water shortage is not going to get fixed by moving in lands. Likewise soil going to shit is also going to ruin the entire country, invasive species can be ants from the Latin Americans that the USA are not ready to handle.
>>81620388
What statistics you want?

>>81620540
>What statistics you want?
Comparative US/China carbon emissions and emission trajectory from later than 2012

>>81620359
Also I forgot to mention that Tornadoes are only going to get worse as well, guess which part of America tends to have Tornadoes

contrarianism swings back and forth, and only contrarians watched his films.

>>81620433
Shouldnt you be glad hes destroying military bases containing deadly chemicals then? Or do you think that asking politely to stop doing that will work? how can you be against one government allowing its citizens to be exposed to a massive health hazard and another purposely and proudly executing people?

>>81620576
http://www.climatechangenews.com/2017/03/31/chinese-co2-emissions-really-peaked/

I never said that China is polluting less, I said that they are doing more against global warming then what America currently is.

>>81620657
*citation needed*
Methinks you people watch too many disaster movies

>>81620742
You're assuming that I think Assad did the gas attack, shit has false flag written all over it.

>>81617037
>political mainstream in 2017.
Where every place in america looks like Detroit. Thanks blacks!

(blacks can't maga)

>>81620795
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/05/130522-tornado-climate-change-oklahoma-science-global-warming/

And it seems I might be wrong on this point

>>81620742
The gas attack is the work of the (((Free Syrian Army))), ask yourself, if Assad has Sarin and is willing to use it why didn't he just drop that shit on Aleppo and wipe the jihadi cucks out in a few days?

>>81620540
Again, show your work kid. Just spouting shit without proof is what you yell at trump for
W-water shortage? Like really? You think there will be a literal water shortage? And how again will the soil be ruined? And show anything about Latin american ants posing a problem in the near future

>>81616622
This

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>>81619489

>implying that tidal waves swallowing the American coast lines isn't the best thing that could happen to the US

>>81620757
The link you just gave me said that China is the world's largest carbon emitter, China will continue to be the world's largest carbon emitter for the rest of the century, China is falling far behind their emission cut goals and China is likely lying about how much they've cut their emissions currently.

How the fuck is that *YOUR* counterpoint?

>>81621460
Shut the fuck up. Dumb American pig.

Cringed just reading the title tbqh

>>81619301
I honestly used to love this guys docs. Then I found out they were actually highly fictional comedies.

>>81620970
>You think there will be a literal water shortage
Yes

https://www.epa.gov/climate-impacts/climate-impacts-water-resources

As for the ants
https://news.utexas.edu/2013/05/16/invasive-crazy-ants-are-displacing-fire-ants-researchers-find

Soil
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/feb/14/science.environment

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE81C13J20120213

>>81621565
They have their worth as opinion pieces, anyone that takes it as gospel is fucked anyway

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>>81621460
You didn't ask for a counter point, you asked for a chart that goes beyond 2012

This is the counter point
http://www.wri.org/blog/2017/01/china-leaving-us-behind-clean-energy-investment

>>81621642
If you think third world immigration is bad now

Just you wait until this world countries becomes uninhabitable

>>81621786
This is the best thing that could happen to the environment. The average European emits 28 tons of CO2 per year, while the average African emits less than 7. Repopulating Europe with Africans would reduce their CO2 emissions by 75%.

Maybe this is nature's way of fixing the environment.

>>81619123
fuck off, Obama did the same and worse in 8 years, go look how many countries he bombed without you libs saying shit

Where to Invade Next was good

>>81616720
Roger and Me is great.
Also Canadian Bacon was ahead of its time on being redpilled over the leaf menace.

>>81620138
>soil possibly becoming worse
What soil? Between poisoning our aquafirs and topsoil erosion we're legitimately fuck inside of a few generations.

Moore is a socialist who hates israel, yet is hated by 4chan

Assad is a socialist who hates Israel, yet 4chan cries for him

>>81616568
the thing he did on Trump isn't really a documentary like his others, it's just a filmed talk.

>>81622217
Saddam was also a socialist in name yet he gassed thousands and was murrica's friend until they had no role for him to serve anymore.
The "Baath are socialists" is a giant meme.

>>81621579
>displacing fire ants

You do realize that the North East has a massive black ant that has all but wiped out Fire Ants everywhere north of Maryland right? Fire Ants aren't territorial enough to compete with any invasive species.

>>81622217
Arab socialism and faggot American socialism are two very different things, just like Natsoc and American socialism

>>81622350
"Arab socialism" is "gib oil money plz" and one way or another that shit's going to be dead in 50 years. It's dying right now.

>>81622384
It's been on life support since the 6 day war actually

>>81622308
Saddam got on the wrong side of the US when he Threatened the gulf Arab states. We would have still worked with him if he hadn't done that

>>81621840

You do realize that they are not emitting less CO2 because they are Africans. They are emitting less because they cannot consume as much as wealthier Europeans. If you let Africans into Europe and have European taxpayers fund them through gibs, they'll emit as much as the average European if not more.

>>81622427
The constant "hey nuke inspectors gtfo" thing wasn't helpful either

Those were UN guys, I don't understand why he didn't kiss their ass more. Was death really preferable to letting them break his balls constantly poking around power plants?

>>81622427
>tell him "yes go on invade them no worry but keep selling us oil at the same price they are"
>bomb him after he does it

>>81620970
>You think there will be a literal water shortage?
Do you know who T. Boone Pickens is anon? Potable water is going to be THE resource crunch in the coming century.
Industrial farming sees tons of chemicals leaching into the ground water. L.A. is buying water from Canada. Texas and the central US is in the middle of a record drought.
But go ahead and stick your head in the sand.

>>81622446
Bullshit, coons don't use heaters, they just throw the wool panels on a fire in the house

>>81622427
>Saddam got on the wrong side of the US when he Threatened the gulf Arab states. We would have still worked with him if he hadn't done that
Wrong anon. He wanted to sell oil on the open market, and then all kinds of pretexts for war sprang up over night.
Don't fuck with the petrodollar unless you want the entire military industrial complex to bring the thunder to your entire region.

>>81622452
>Implying anyone pays attention to the UN
>Implying the biggest violator of UN regulations isn't Israel

>>81622567
He's talking about Desert Storm, not 2003.
They basically told him they didn't give a fuck about himinvading Kuwait as long as he didn't fuck with US's supply and then proceeded to blow him out of the water and put his and the whole country on a cage with all the sanctions afterwards and when he tried to get out of the cage what happened is what you said.

>>81622685
I'm implying he could have used it as a fig leaf indefinitely. Imagine of the US had dropped a bomb on Baghdad and fucking killed Hans Blix because he hadn't been previously expelled. Imagine if Saddam could go on TV and say "The Americans are attacking us for no reason because we're fully cooperating with the international weapons mandate"

But no, he went "INSPECTORS GET OUT REEEEEE" and got BTFO within a month. He offered the US that pretense himself.

>>81616568
Because people gradually started to realize he's full of shit.

>>81622689
>He's talking about Desert Storm
So am I.
Nayirah al-Sabah's testimony about the Iraqi attrocities when invading Kuwait was found to be entirely fabricated. She was the Daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US and reeding lines handed to her by the CIA... You know, the intelligence organization formerly headed by the president of the united states George Bush, the first one.
Shitposting from my phone at the moment so I cant post pictures, but go look for Saddam Hussein shaking Donald Rumsfeld's hand.
The whole thing was engineered from the get go to establish a pretext foemr the US to cement their military presence in the region, and to serve as an infomercial for the new warfighting toys that had been developed.

>>81616720
Roger and me is undoubtedly one of the best documentaries of all times.

>>81622975
Well yeah of course they reeled him, i'm not denying that but him selling oil in the open market isn't correct.
He was crippled in debt from the Iran war and Kuwait was pumping oil like crazy and dropping the price making him unable to pay his debts. When he asked the US ambassador she told he could go ahead as long as the price stayed the same for the US supply to reel him in.

>>81621786
Its gonna be okay (for us). Trump's going to modernize the border so that its 100x harder to get through. The rest of the first world is super fucked though.

>>81621642
If cheap sea desalinization is invented in the next 100 years, which it almost certainly will be (probably because of a revolution in energy production) then the whole surface becomes lush and green.

None of this shit is any problem whatsoever.

>>81623146
>He was crippled in debt from the Iran war
Backed by the US who was playing both sides. Sold material by the CIA, run by george bush.
And Kuwait itself had historically been their clay. It was western imperialism and administration in the region that carved it up into states that ignored historical and cultural borders, directly contributing to the instability the region is known for even today.
Prior to the gulf war it was a fairly modern, religiously moderate country (a big reason we were happy to be in bed with them) with a strong economy. The iraqi Denar was worth more than the USD, and backed by their massive oil deposits.
Ever since the end of WWII the US made securing oil reserves a priority for national security. That policy became more and more aggresive over the years from mere collaboration with nations to establishing a military presence in the region and making sure no one else in the region has the capability to upset our shit. They literally wrote a manifesto about the whole thing in the PNAC (project for a new american century) a think tank made of the former cabinet members of the first bush administration, and the future cabinet members of the second.
The tail has been wagging the dog on Iraq for literally decades at this point.

>>81621859
>Obama bombed more people than Trump

Typical Obama dick-sucker right here.

>>81622484
>Bullshit, coons don't use heaters
Because they don't have them now.

>>81619239
>hes let his politics take over
So what you mean to say is as an underage that's about to enter college, you're actually aware of his content now