What are some kinos where the "villain" does nothing wrong?

>>81550331
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Watch men

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>Griffith apologists

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>>81550352
Name one (1) thing Griffith did wrong.

Breaking Bad

>>81550401

Nobody is apologizing for anything

>>81550432
Getting molested

>>81550478
Griffith did it for the greater good of the Band of the Hawk and his dream.

>>81550432
Fucked the King's daughter without marrying her first. All's he had to do was wait a year at most.

>>81550476
There's nothing to apologise for.

>>81550513
The only issue the King had with that was that he wanted to fuck his daughter first. Griffith showed everyone what the King was really like.

Griffith’s forces were fully aware of the costs when they volunteered to serve under his command. Griffith stated his dream was to establish a nation under his rule, and that those serving under him might be part of the casualties. And guess what: some perished. Yet, somehow, Griffith is accountable for this inevitable tragedy? Despite informing these volunteers entering a contract with him of the consequences?

The honorable Griffith is currently orchestrating a new world order of peace and prosperity. This noble man of humble birth is achieving the impossible: the constitution of a utopian society involving demons and humans living in harmony with one another, a civilization where the rich and selfish have no power, a new World that flourishes on the foundation of equality and brotherhood.

Meanwhile, after Guts abandons Griffith under the pretense of being devoid of finding meaning in his pathetic existence, he still believes he can just waltz in after committing treason. As a result, Griffith is crippled and mute, the cost of living with Guts’ selfish desires. Griffith then punishes Guts for his betrayal. Yet, the merciful Griffith returns to Guts, pleading with this savage for the support of his Utopian pursuit. Guts refuses his generous offer due to imagined past transgressions.

In summary: Guts is the representation of what is wrong with the world--selfish and treacherous. Griffith only desires a world where people like Guts can no longer terrorise the weak and innocent.

>>81550570
Reminder that Guts was killing random people for money while Griffith was trying to free a country.

>>81550592
>killing random people
Source: your ass

>>81550672
>kills poor Donovan after he paid some gold coins
>killed the guy that brought him up
>killed the brave knight Bazuso

Michael Biehn in The Abyss.

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Negan

>>81550432

>Name one (1) thing Griffith did wrong.

Rapes Casca and makes Guts watch.
This causes Casca to have a miscarrage and Griffith turns her and Gut's unborn baby into a demon
Griffith then decides to use as a vessel so he can be reborn.
He also makes sure they both stay alive enough so that they can witness the grief and misery that their 'child' inflicts upon the world whilst making everybody believe hes the good guy and Guts is evil.
He does this for nothing more than jealous keks because Guts wouldn't devote his life to him.

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>b-b-b-but muh brown waifu
>implying she didn't like it

>>81550432
He lost his cool because of his literal fag lust for Guts and then >>81550513

He literally just turned into a complete asshole because of how gay he was. And then even when Guts came back and saved him he was jealous as fuck of him and Casca. He blew it.

>>81550964
That was Femto, and Casca didn't see it as rape considering she continues to chase Griffith happily every time she sees him.

>>81550331

>Fucks a princess because his ego got bruised from losing a duel to Guts
>Sacrifices everyone who trusted him to fix his crippled body
>Takes advantage of Caska's unrequited feelings to fuck her in front of Guts
>Unleashes legendary magical creatures upon the world so that people would flock to the kingdom he'd create

Griffith is a self-centered asshole. The people of Falconia are gonna get fucking slaughtered when he gets bored of playing king.

>>81550331
Say what you want but he's still an asshole for sacrificing everyone after they saved him. Also he raped casca for no reason.

>Band of the Hawk members die all the time in battle under Griffiths command in sacrifice of his dream
>nobody gives a shit
>Band of the Hawk members get eaten by demons under Griffiths command in sacrifice of his dream
>all of the sudden it's a tragedy

They were being cucked from the very beginning. What happened at the sacrifice, was what happened hundreds of times before in every single battle Griffith commanded. People started dying for him from the very beginning, to all of the sudden pussy out because 'muh friends' would be retarded.

I'm only around chapter 200 ish right now

But how the fuck can he even stand up to any of the God hand? What can he even do to them?

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Legend of the Galactic Heroes

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>>81550992
Those were just steps along the way. He's doing good while Guts plays for revenge.

>>81551047
Yup. They were his loyal friends who would do anything for him, and he just tossed them aside like they were table scrapes for hungry dogs.

>>81551273
>who would do anything for him
Like sacrifice themselves for a goal above selfishness.

>>81551304
Something Griffith clearly isn't capable of doing himself. Oh, but it's fine if he uses other people's lives for his own selfish goals. Sure, he's not a bad guy at all.

>>81551163
>how the fuck can he even stand up to any of the God hand?

Berserker armor + loli witch means Guts is pretty much invincible but fuck knows to how he can defeat the God hand.
The Skull Knight cant figure it so I doubt he can

Either way im not expecting Berserk to have a happy ending, or even an ending at all as Muira is a lazy ass fuck who will likely die before there is a conclusion to the story

>>81551231

Nothing Griffith does can make up for all the suffering he's caused. Remember all the troll rape? Griffith willed those trolls into existence. God knows how many people have been killed by dragons and banshees and shit. Griffith fucked the world.

>>81550432
Look constantly fabulous.

>>81551368
He also willed the mermaid girls into being. Got to have the good with the bad.

>>81551364
Griffith is the only one who can do what needs to be done.

>>81551273
He explicitly mentions that anybody who follows another man's dream (and thus by definition every single person under his command) he cannot consider and equal or a true friend.

>and he just tossed them aside like they were table scrapes
He tossed those people aside in the same sense that he tossed every single soldier that ever served under him and died aside. They were always a means to end for him.

>>81550570
Bait of the highest caliber

>>81550993
>that was Femto

I guarantee if Guts killed somebody while under the Berserker armor's control you would claim it wasn't his fault then, right?

>>81551665
Yeah, and that basically means he's a piece of shit who doesn't care about anyone or anything except himself. Pretty cut and dry.

>>81551397
>Griffith is the only one who can do what needs to be done.
He's the only one that can destroy the world?

>>81550432
He had Guts kill a kid. That's kind of a big fucking no-no.

>>81551817
We're shown that Guts can control the Berserker armour with Schierke's help but we can't say the same about Femto.

>>81551835
He's saved millions.

>>81551847
Guts killing the kid was his own fuck up.

>>81551891
>he's saved millions
When Miura releases the chapter when it's implied AGAIN that Griffith plans to sacrifice all of Falconia I'm going to make a thread on /a/ with your post.

>Guts killing the kid was his own fuck up
Griffith knew the Lord had a kid though, he wanted the entire Royal family's male line to be killed so there were no blood claims to the throne.

>>81551968
>Griffith plans to sacrifice all of Falconia
Why would he do that? He's already a Godhand.

>Griffith knew the Lord had a kid though
He never asked him to kill the kid. If the kid had went to sleep, he would have lived.

>>81550432
Being in a pretty cool medieval world anime that for some reason went completely pants on head retarded right out of the blue. I'm not sure which has a more retarded turn of events, Berserk or Evangelion.

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>>81550964
>rape
>Implying she doesn't love it

>>81552020
>Why would he do that? He's already a Godhand.
He has his body as Femto, and his body as nu-Griffith. If he ascends his new Griffith body he'll have an even stronger God Hand form.

>He never asked him to kill the kid
Griffith knew he would because he wouldn't let it get back to him. What's the point in just killing the Lord when his son would just become the crown prince?

>>81552097
since she became a retard after it i doubt it

>>81552068
The supernatural elements were hinted at throughout.

>>81551368
>Nothing Griffith does can make up for all the suffering he's caused. Remember all the troll rape? Griffith willed those trolls into existence.
That wasn't Griffith that was Slan's doing, the rest of the god hand are free to wreak havoc to their liking as well, they're not tied to what Griffith does or wants to do.

>>81550331

You posted this thread on /tg/ too, faggot.

kys

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>>81552097
>posting the shopped one
At least include the original dialogue.

If Griffith is the good guy why doesn't he take on the rest of the God hand?

>>81552182
What has any of them apart from Slan done wrong?

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>>81552118
>they hinted at it!!!

Ohhhhh!!!!


It literally doesn't fit the rest of the entire thing at all. It is like two people wrote it. One person wrote all the pre-Griffith prison shit and another person wrote everything after that and they didn't exactly talk to each other. One writer was an old guy and the other writer is a fatherless edgy teen with "issues".

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>>81550331
The better question is, "what has any of them done right?".

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>>81550331
How far does the new series go compared to the old one?

>>81552248
Except the manga starts with the supernatural stuff out in the open then goes into a summary of the events that led to how the world is fucked.

>>81552272
The 2017 season is better than 2016 so far. There's still the ugly CGI but they've made Guts look more like Guts and there are more 2D sections.

>>81552273
>muh manga

This is /tv/ - Television & Film

You want: >>>/a/ /a/ - Anime & Manga

>>81552336
Even the television show starts with Guts killing an Apostle.

>>81552301
Yeah but what about what I asked

>>81552345
I don't get the question

>>81552358
>How far does the new series go compared to the old one?

I remember it just kind of randomly ending after everyone got killed and raped.

>>81552114
yeah he fucked her silly

>>81552342
The one I watched had nothing but bromance between Guts and Griffith then upended with a complete change of tone at the end in the lake. Evidently there's a few versions now.

>>81552272
well it picks up after the old one, think it'll get as far as the armour arc.

>>81552388
There's a bit after the credits of the original 97 anime showing that Guts survived.
The new anime starts straight after that.

>>81552393
I'm talking about the original from 1997.

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Morgan Freeman in Wanted.

Had he followed the Loom of Fate's orders, him and every other top assassin in the Fraternity would have been killed, leaving nobody fit to lead. The Loom was either malfunctioning or just simply outlived its usefulness, making Morgan's actions to preserve the Fraternity completely justified.

>>81552389
>tfw griffith will never fuck your mind out and leave you a wailing retard

Griffith isn't even close in the dindu nuffin scale to Void. He sacrificed a whole kingdom and forced it's King to use a behelit to try and seek revenge.

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How is this?
Can I kill Griffith yet?

>>81552167
Is /tg/ the new /b/ for nerds?

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>>81552448
I agree about the Loom malfunctioning, but he was deceitful and dishonest to everyone else in the fraternity. He should have told them that he was no longer going to kill assassins that the loom told him to.

For this reason, I have reasoned that he does in fact do SOMETHING wrong.

>>81552648
Pic related would have taken it upon herself to carry out the Loom's orders if she found out beforehand. Morgan was right to keep it a secret.

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>>81550570
>Griffith's apologists this delusional
The man literally sold his soul, as well as his men, to demons, all so he can rule his very own kingdom.

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>>81550570
This is some amazing devils's advocate play, lad.

Do you think Guts will sacrifice his new party? They're already more based than the Hawk

>>81552845
That's all good and well, but the bottom line is that he was still in the wrong for lying to all of his men and breaking his oath.

>>81550570
you should write neonazi blogs

>>81550993

>That was Femto

Griffith and Femto are the same.

>Come in expecting a good thread
>its all anime
wtf

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>>81553615
Prove it.

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>>81551366
>Berserk and HxH will never have an ending because of laziness
>One Piece will never have an ending because Oda's heart will explode from working too much

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>>81553994
>mfw Guts loses in the end

>>81554205
>last chapter is griffith with the body of donovan raping guts

>>81550331
That's a cute girl, what's her name?

>>81554301
JUSTICE

>>81552592
Great if you like Dynasty Warrior type games. Doesn't get that far obviously.

>>81550331
To answer OP's question: Gone Girl. Affleck was a lout who deserved everything.