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FUCK I FUCKED UP

REAL LAST THREAD
>>81536123

IIIIIIITS YOUR BIRTH DAY TOOO DAYYY

>>81542453
Don't you think he looks tired?

>>81542469
He's making an expression of mild concern.

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>>81542453
Series 10 will be GOAT

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If only we got this instead of Class :(

I like the idea that 2 got shit all over his dick at one point and had to deal with that

Series 10 will be the best of NuWho

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>>81542511
Wait, was this Moff pottery?

If each Doctor was a food what do you think they would be?

Answer this and I'll draw it.

>>81542545
I don't really see how the things relate to each other.

What is the best Chinball episode?

Doctor Who takes an ethical stance towards alien life – so why isn’t he vegan?

Since the Doctor Who series was rebooted in 2005 the television show has consistently presented the Doctor as a moral leader, a key element of which is his respectful relationship with other species. The Doctor expresses admiration and wonder for others, even when they threaten him or his human companions. Christopher Eccleston, who played the first relaunched Doctor, told the BBC that the new show retained “the central message of love for life in all its forms”. If this is the case, we have wondered, why isn’t the Doctor a vegan?

Peter Capaldi, who plays the latest incarnation of the Doctor, has not eaten meat on screen. This is a nonhuman character who does not appear eat other nonhumans, and in this regard he differs from his previous three incarnations (Matt Smith, David Tennant, and Eccleston) who were often seen eating dead animals or wearing dead animals’ skins. This is a partial departure from the Doctor’s behaviour during the original series, which ran from 1962 to 1989. The sixth Doctor (played by Colin Baker) became a vegetarian in the 1985 episode The Two Doctors after his companions were almost killed by a species who viewed humans as food animals.

But the Doctor’s vegetarianism was expressly abandoned by head writer Russell T Davies when the show returned in 2005. Davies explained that he wrote the Doctor’s vegetarianism out of the series because he wanted to make the Doctor more relatable to the audience. But the result is that the Doctor now displays some very confused ethics.

>>81542558
Oh wait now I do, ignore this.

>>81542553
Well Six is a pie, obviously.

>>81542553
Well 5 would certainly be celery

>>81542568
>>81542568

In episode Boom Town from 2005, Eccleston’s Doctor discusses issues about death and mercy with a condemned alien. The scene is set in a restaurant, and the Doctor orders steak and chips. In the episode The Age of Steel from 2006, Tennant’s Doctor expresses how much he enjoys eating meat hotdogs while acknowledging their similarity to what Cybermen unjustly do to humans. In his first episode in 2010, Smith’s Doctor famously ate fish fingers and custard to recover from the regeneration process. Yet in the Christmas episode that year he reacts with wonder and compassion when encountering flying fishes, who he seeks to save.

The Eccleston, Tennant and Smith Doctors have all been shown as enthusiastic consumers of some nonhuman species while at the same time trying to protect others. When the earth is under threat of destruction, the Doctor only ever seems to care about the loss of human lives that might result, and not the many other species living on Earth. In the episode “Cold Earth” from 2010, Smith’s Doctor becomes involved in negotiations for humans to “share” the planet with Silurians, a species of “homo reptilians” who lived on Earth before humans evolved. In the debate over whether there is room for both species, there is no acknowledgement that any species other than humans already live on the planet, or that they are kept and killed for the convenience of humans.

>>81542553
9 would be a banana.

>>81542636

Capaldi’s Doctor hasn’t yet been shown eating meat like his predecessors. In his first episode in 2014 he even gently chided his companion Clara’s hypocrisy when she was disgusted by the farming of human body parts by an alien, saying: “You weren’t a vegetarian the last time I looked.” There’s been no overt statement that the Doctor has returned to his vegetarianism, but by conspicuously not eating meat Capaldi’s Doctor has at least brought back the moral consistency of the earlier series’ vegetarian Doctor. Twelve years after Davies’ script decision, it seems the Doctor does not need to eat other species in order for us to relate to the character.

As a primetime show aimed at children and adults with a history stretching back more than 50 years, Doctor Who reflects contemporary cultural and ethical norms through the stories it tells. The post-2005 show has been rightly credited for the diversity of its human characters – the new series about to begin sees the introduction of the Doctor’s first openly gay companion, and tipsters feel that the next Doctor may be a woman, or black, or a black woman. However, the modern series has not been so progressive in dealing with our inconsistent ethical relationship with other species, even if the 12th Doctor has gone further than most of his predecessors to demonstrate that he does indeed “love life in all its forms”.

https://theconversation.com/doctor-who-takes-an-ethical-stance-towards-alien-life-so-why-isnt-he-vegan-75786

>>81542553
9 = chips
11 = fish fingers and custard but I'm pretty sure this has already been drawn
I'm not sure about 5, but it would definitely be a well prepared meal because that's what life is all about.

>>81542553
11 would be a Swiss roll

>>81542553
Four is a half-empty bottle of Jack

Could 6 drink cow semen or would that be against his good morals and a lover of animal

>>81542553
One has gotta be some Candy Rock

>>81542655
>In his first episode in 2014 he even gently chided his companion Clara’s hypocrisy when she was disgusted by the farming of human body parts by an alien, saying: “You weren’t a vegetarian the last time I looked.”
I simply took it as an affirmation of the circle of life. Someone like Doctor should develop some sense of cynical moral relativism.

Redpill me on Ian Levene

>>81542747
Humans drink human semen all the time

Doctor Who?
More like 'Dogturd Poo' haha

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>>81542829

Why no plogical this year?

Chibnall is bad series 11 is shit meme needs to stop

Chibnall is a solid writer with a lot of experience.
All of his DW episodes were fucked by the production and budget issues
>all of character developement of silurians in two parter was cut off
>power of three had to be rewritten in the last few days because shakri actor refused to act
>series 7 was in production hell overall
>42 is pretty good episode
>he wrote for theater
>broadchurch is really good (and it was succesful and even got an american adaptation)
>tennant and colman both praise him as a nice guy and great writer

>>81542865
Maybe they realised that actually promoting the show was more important than filming minisodes that barely anyone ends up seeing.

>>81542875
>all of character developement of silurians in two parter was cut off
If all of the good content in your two-parter gets cut out then you are clearly inept at putting it in the right places.

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>>81542875
oh look the chibcucks are already revealing themselves

this is still the moffchads town, for now. remember that.

>>81542917
You have "I hate Chibnall" syndrome

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVhMy9y9YP0
>The Eaters of Light written by Rung Moo

>>81542943
If by that you mean "the episodes were bad" syndrome, then yes?

>>81542956
By that I mean "I hate things because I cant think wider" syndrome

Is this like the game of thrones general where everyone hates the show or do people here actually enjoy the latest seasons?

>>81542993
It's about 50/50.

>>81542993
People are so different that in one week you can have "RTD IS SHIT EDITION" and "RTD IS GOD EDITION" threads

>>81542875
Chibs leave.

We're still missing some

>1: Rock Candy
2:
3:
>4: Jelly Baby/Half empty bottle of Jack
>5: Celery
>6: Pie
>7: Swiss Cheese
8:
>9: Banana
>10: Chips
>11: Fish Fingers and Custard/Swiss Roll

Didn't Three like wine? Suits him.

>>81543041
god I love this meme

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>>81542563
Pic related, only becos Brian.

>>81542568
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>>81542655
>But the result is that the Doctor now displays some very confused ethics.
I think the author of this is confused since he doesn't actually identify any contradictions in the Doctor's ethics.

On a side note, can I say that I'm not sure I've ever seen someone serve steak and chips? Where I live, steak is considered the highest form of meat (and therefore of food generally), the kind of thing you order at fancy restaurants, while french fries are basically trash, the sort of thing you would only eat at a fast food restaurant or sports bar.

>>81543124
>french fries
Not all chips are french fries.

>>81542568
They make a joke about this in 'Amy's Choice'.

>>81543157
THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE CHIPS? Why are these rules so complicated? Anyway, google imaging "steak and chips" gives me images of steak with french fries.

>>81543124
Similar where I live. You get your big juicy sirloin steak on a plate, with maybe a bit of side salad added to make it look 'pretty'.

But the chips come in a separate bowl, and are NEVER those thin floppy french fry thingies. We're talking super thick wedges triple fried for extra crispiness.

>>81543234
French fries are Mcdonalds/burger king trash.
But you get steak with proper chips. Hand cut and that like m8. Tis good. But you ameriplebs wouldn't get it

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>>81543234
French fries are the long and thin ones. Chips can sometimes be long and thin but are frequently shorter and chunkier, and just generally shaped like they were actually cut out of a potato. This image isn't ideal but it shows the basic distinction.

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>tfw this thread has made me hungry now

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I want steak and chips for dinner tonight now.

With proper chips.

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>>81543321
Those are also called french fries.

That thigh game hnnnnnng:
https://twitter.com/brinatello/status/852122225079717888

>>81543321
Those are potato wedges.

>>81542553
3 would be a home cooked meal that doesn't cost the earth - the best of both worlds

>>81543417
Maybe in "america" but here in the real chippy land you have to earn the title chip

>>81543417
foy

>>81542993
It's an even split. But no one here actually talks about show quality.
So answer me anon, what does Paul McGann's semen taste like?

>>81543468
I thought "french fry" wasn't even used in the UK, presumably out of some national hostility (just kidding) and it was always chips.

>>81543533
American fast food chains still call them fries on the menus.

>>81543043
2. MOF national loaf w/drippings
3. Liquid Lunch-single malt scotch or a cask of some nice wine as you suggested
8. Something romantic? Linguini w/clams?

https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/852186236756398080
What did he mean by this?

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Fuck me. Is there a new Who Doctor actor who hasn't aged terribly in the part?

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>>81543601
Now all we need is Twelve.

Here is Six as a pie, I am still working on the others.

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>>81543533

>>81543630
Eccleston

He's right you know :^|
https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/852184102031773696

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>>81543710
>tfw

Pearl Mackie isn't q...
https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/852190298025451522

>>81543717
>"fans"
>in a tweet for normal people

I think that the plots of the campy Bond films, scifi-ed and stretched out over 12 episodes, could make a cool, Chibnallesque story arc.

>cloning world leaders
>destroying oil pipelines (rocket fuel)
>baddie stockpiling nuclear weapons
>planetary military coups

>>81543796
We don't even know what Chibnallesque means yet in a Doctor Who context.

>>81543766
>https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/852190298025451522


JUST LINK TO THE VIDEO FFS

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04zmq5k

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>>81543533
We refer to the thin things you get in mcdonalds as fries (no french) but these motherfuckers we call chips.

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>>81543717
When will they make him Controller of the BBC?

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>>81543866
Never. He doesn't have the "right" views.

BASED MOFFAT

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04zvzb3

HAPPY FOURTEENTH BIRTHDAY

>>81542332
Reminder that the xmas special will take place entirely inside 12's mind TARDIS as he struggles with his regeneration.
Clara and Missy co-star.

Should the Doctor be stranded on Earth again, as UNIT's scientific adviser?

>>81544360

Circular Time: Winter already did that.

The plot of Agent Under Fire would make for an amazing series. Malprave as big bad. Get Hayley Atwell to play her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kjMCJ-7a3k new video

>>81543124
>On a side note, can I say that I'm not sure I've ever seen someone serve steak and chips? Where I live, steak is considered the highest form of meat (and therefore of food generally), the kind of thing you order at fancy restaurants, while french fries are basically trash, the sort of thing you would only eat at a fast food restaurant or sports bar.
Where exactly do you live?

In the US (and non-French Canada), the word "steak fries" exists specifically to describe the thick fries that you get with steak at a steakhouse, as opposed to the thin ones that you normally get. (Although the term was popularized by Sizzler, a relatively cheap chain-franchise steakhouse, in the 1970s, and their "steak fries" are actually not that thick.)

In the UK, chips are almost always thick, and they come with steak there too.

Meanwhile, the reason the thin ones are called "French fries" is because they're part of steak-frites, the standard brasserie meal anywhere you go in western/central Europe (or French Canada), which originally comes from France. (Belgians claim it comes from Belgium, but as far as the rest of the world is concerned, Belgium is just France's appendix anyway.)

Finally, in much of Europe, if you want thick fries, the place to get them is Australian steakhouses.

>>81544667
Is Matt's "acting like a bad actor" thing bit at the beginning specifically borrowed from Stephen Root's, or are they both borrowing from the same thing, or is it just a coincidence that they're so similar?

>>81544667
they have no chemistry

>>81544002
She's much better in motion. I'm excited for Bill now

>>81544461
I would say yes if only to give Kate the much needed chance to develop more as a character.

>>81542553
The second Doctor would be a persimmon

Cricket balls were the traditionally red balls around which the sport of cricket revolved. Made of leather (COMIC: The Forgotten) they were, according to Tegan, quite hard. (PROSE: The Eight Doctors)

The Doctor often had one close to hand.

The Fifth Doctor was the incarnation who was the biggest fan of cricket, and therefore frequently had one on his person. This was in evidence in Amsterdam, when he emptied his pockets, and their contents included a cricket ball. (TV: Arc of Infinity)

75 percent. :)

>>81542993
Unlike /got/ where people praise the older season and shit on the newer ones, /who/ shits on older Nu-Who and praises the newer stuff (despite it being the worst it's ever been) to justify their continued visits to these threads and their e-"friends". It's a bit sad really tbqh.

>>81542553
12th Doctor would be a wrinkly almond.

>>81545480
fuck off fag/got/.
>tits and dragons plebs speaking with any authority.
lmao at your cerebellum senpai

>>81544360
I am sure all the non fans watching on Christmas Day would love that...

GOAT EXTRA

https://youtu.be/5kjMCJ-7a3k

>>81543459
kek

>>81545922
I love her. She seems so genuine and funny.

>>81545922
Fourth time this has been posted in this thread.

>>81545480
Flip this around for on-season, when all the poor babies who have been oppressed by people liking the newer series for the past year storm in and circlejerk as hard as they can about how hard they've had it.

>>81545820
fuck off /who/re.
>wacky british spaceman plebs having any credibility
lmao at your cerebrum famalam.

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>>81543043
>2: either a bowl of lemon sherbert, or a hearty meat pie
>3: wine and cheese
>7: frittata
>8: Mars Bar
>12: chips

>>81545983
To them I say only one thing.

Godspeed

>>81546003
go jerk off to your j RR tolkien fan fic.
it's the 50 shades of gray of fantasy. pleb.

>>81545480
>despite it being the worst it's ever been

hola reddit

Capaldi regenerates in Episode 12.

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/852207937154154496

>>81543043
>1: Rock Candy
No, he's one of those foil-wrapped nutrient bars that the TARDIS food dispenser gives you.

As Barbara says, he tastes just like bacon and eggs, but needs some brown sauce.

>>81546150
Oh god what's Moffat doing.

>>81546088
Yeah OK, and Doctor Who is the Jack and Jill of sci-fi.

>>81546150
fake news
check the article
he says "i did it the other day"

>>81546150
Naaah he'll be fine. He gets shot in Episode 8 and regenerates, then gets shit again and dies, but Bill freezes time and rewinds it to back before the monks showed up. Like with the Series 3 finale.

>>81546182
>Jack and Jill
So you're saying that Dr. who is entry level?
nice to meet you pot, my name is kettle.
if you think got is anything but that you're fucking delusional

>>81546150
So an article that says Capaldi shot his death scene a week after episode 12 wrapped shooting is proof that Capaldi regenerates in episode 12.

>>81542655
He was literally eating sushi in the last episode. He gave someone a burger.

>>81546304
It's not at all unreasonable for 'the other day' to mean 'a week ago'.

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>>81546241
C-confirmed?

>>81546304
It's proof that he's been killed, not that he's regenerated.

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everyone goes on about le epik fury of a timelord in Family of Blood

but the epilogue always gets me way more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh78KWOkiGE

>mfw

>>81546304
Actually, they did a pickup for episode 9 or 10 after wrapping episode 12.

So obviously Capaldi regenerates in episode 9 or 10 and we have a new secret Doctor for the last few episodes.

>>81546150
>he goes out a fighter

TENNANT BTFO

How does it make everyone feel that the show will never be good again now that Capaldi is leaving?

>>81546418
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Chris_Chibnall_Era

>tfw this page came true

RIP Doctor Who

Nardole kills 12 for calling him a "baldy bastard."

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>>81543441
Can it beat this?

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>>81546497
>she will never tell you that she loves you in sign language

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Making this really fucking burnt me out

>>81546418
I'm sure at some point in the next 50 years there will be at least one good era

>>81546593
ROSE LOVED CHIPS

>>81546418
Don't worry, once Gatiss is done playing the 13th Doctor under Chibnall, he'll take over as showrunner.

Pearl Mackie on The One Show in 5 mins.

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>>81546373
>Doctor dies
>can't regenerate
>Final scene is just 30 seconds of Moffat's grinning face against a black background with distorted screeching noises playing in the background

>>81546769
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJfLHedBG1g

>>81546769
kek. chibs BTFO.

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>>81546769
>episode 12
>doctor regenerates into Steven Moffat
>xmas is a one-off special with Moffat as the doctor

reminder this is still moffchad town

learn your place. join us or get to the back of the line plebs.

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chibcucks LEAVE

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Is this the greatest moment in the show?

PEARL MACKIE JUST SAID PETER LEAVES IN EPISODE 12

LIVE ON BBC FUCKING ONE

HOLY SHIT

>>81546742
>when they asked her to show the last face she pulled in the last scene she filmed
Kek

>>81546942
No she did not

>>81546942
M O F F A T I S D O N E
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"Exclusive" clip later on the one show, I'm going to assume it's not the same one from before.

MOFFAT DON'T GO

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3odtnh_moffat-don-t-go_travel

>>81546942
ITS REAL

CAN SOMEONE LINK DAMN SHOW

>>81547018
Dumb ITVcuck

>>81547018
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone

>>81546942
kek no she didn't

I phucking hate the one show. Who cares about ship docking facts?

WHELAN BTFO

https://twitter.com/RealMattLucas/status/852211878977732608

>>81546941
No, it's just a well set up reveal. This three-parter gets more and more retrospectively inflated with every passing day.
In particular I've noticed people cumming themselves a lot more over the whole bit of Last of the Time Lords where Martha is on her big post apocalyptic journey, even though there's nothing particularly interesting about it. It's like there's now a mode of viewing where as long as what's happening seems 'epic' enough it's the greatest fucking thing ever.

>>81547018
https://www.filmon.com/group/uk-live-tv

Pearl just confirmed the finale has more than one doctor.

MOFFAT. IS. FINISHED.

>>81547133
I bet you don't simmpost.

>>81547133
That three parter really was a perfect downward slope as it went on

Pearl is so hot on the one show

>>81547133
>In particular I've noticed people cumming themselves a lot more over the whole bit of Last of the Time Lords where Martha is on her big post apocalyptic journey,

desu cumming over Martha ain't that weird

>>81547075
Everyone? It's almost as important as the shipping forecast.

New clip of the crew landing on Dalek ship

The clip was fairly short, a bit of conversation between 12, Nardole and Bill shortly before leaving the TARDIS to the place where Daleks are.

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>tfw pearl mackie is 30 years old

GOAT new clip
Did you see it?

>>81542568
Maybe in the time war he got some balls and started eating meat again.

I think the Doctor, like any other capable human, understands where the food comes from and just chooses to keep a blind eye because it's important to others. You have to remember the Doctor has seen many many posible futures and in his travels he very well could have noticed how it is necessary for people to eat meat at our time. However barbaric that seem to be. He know eventually the humans will have the ability to grow out of using others like food through technology, but for the time being it is necessary. And all those example of him eating meat could very well be examples of him trying to blend in or bond with someone.

Also in Return of Doctor Mysterio he is eating sushi and gives someone a burger so your copy paste is outdated.

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>>81547189
ROUND AND BROWN

>>81547214
29 according to wikipedia

>>81547183
Seriously, this is a better look for her than any of the ones we've seen Bill in. Except maybe that really dark and classy one I think she has for one of the middle episodes.

STREAMING AT CASUAL WHO STREAM

No more Doctor Who stuff?

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Remember us?

>>81547382
No, fuck off Gatiss

I have no doubts that despite her raving, that Pearl loves white cock.

Does it bother anyone else that Clara was oh-so-wonderful and perfect? The companion is supposed to be the relatable character, not a unique creature who could open the TARDIS doors with a click of her fingers a season or two after a big deal was made about the Doctor finally being able to do so.

>>81547562
Yes, it bothered me so much that it ruined Capaldi era for me.

>>81547605

I didn't touch the Capaldi episodes for ages for similar reasons. I started picking through them a few days ago though, just out of interest. Then I discovered the new season lands at the weekend. Good timing.

Anyway, yeah. Fuck Clara. Amy Pond and Rory were loads better. Hope Bill isn't shit.

GOAT CLIP

https://youtu.be/DCpuOlwkTPM

>>81547562
>oh-so-wonderful and perfect?
If by "perfect" you mean "severely flawed to the point of personal destruction", then I guess? The answer is that yes, it bothered a lot of people that Clara leveled up as a companion and was given a lot of weight within the show, which is why people say odd things like she was "perfect".

>>81547562
It's also why companions should stay for a series, maybe two at most then fuck off. Keep it fresh.

>>81547713
Safe friends?

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Predict the posts after The Pilot airs /who/ that will be here, on Facebook, Reddit and on GB.

>>81547254
Only 6 (if you only follow TV) or very briefly 6 but then 7 (if you follow everything) was a vegetarian, and definitely not vegan.

I don't think it's because the Doctor keeps a blind eye, he just doesn't agree with the moral equivalence between sapient beings and unintelligent beasts that vegans like to push, and doesn't see why an arbitrary dividing line between fungi and animals is any better than any other arbitrary dividing line.

In one of Cartmel's books, Ace actually challenges the Doctor with that last one, and he replies that he's not vegetarian for such "simplistic and moralistic" reasons, and then gets her to agree that the frittata he cooks tastes better than the steak she had last night.

In one of the EDAs, the Doctor brings up the same point with Sam, and she has no answer, but he decides not to press it, and agrees to try not to eat meat in front of her. Because vegetarianism is not actually about morality, it's about squeamishness.

Can someone explain why Class is so reviled on the board? Watched it recently and didn't think it was too bad

watching fiveish doctor reboot on stream

>>81547756
"Well, I say friends."

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>>81547777
Quads confirm, it wasn't that bad at all!

>>81547701
>Fuck Clara.
Yes please.

Not that I'd turn down a threeway with Amy and Rory, but I get the feeling Rory wouldn't get into the spirit and would try to make it all about Amy.

About to watching The Five(ish) Doctors in the stream come join!


https://cytu be/r/casualwhostream

>>81547777
We don't accept edgy teenagers here, please return to reddit.

>>81547732

The only time she ever did something "wrong", to my memory, was attempting to throw the TARDIS keys into lava. Apart from that, where did she do anything that wasn't the exact right thing that needed to be done?

>>81547796
Oh, makes sense thanks!

>>81547756
The Movellans probably

>>81547713
His Doctor really has a balance of his series 8 and 9 personality now, i love it. 12 has had great character development.

>>81547777
It's utter garbage. Falls for every cliche in the book and has one dimensional characters played by mediocre actors.

>>81547806

TWIST: having Clara only happens if Cyberman Danny is involved, and he spends the whole time saluting you.

>>81547713
>This is just your basic skirmish. It isn't as bad as it sounds!
>Bill gets exterminated
>Oops

>>81547777
People wanted something good and got something mediocre-to-"not too bad". Also it was well cringey at points. I'm hard pressed to say it's reviled, people just take the piss.

>>81547852
agreed. 12 has had GOAT character development.

Way to devalue any Dalek threat. May as well have said "don't worry, we only have one prop and they're just a cameo to keep the Nation Estate happy, Bill"

>>81547756
"I say friends..."

>>81547812
Only asking for a rundown on it, I never said it was good.

>>81547858
I thought the only truly bad characters were the white girl (and her cripple mum) and the black chick; what was so bad?

MISSED THE ONE SHOW

Has the clip been uploaded?

>>81547750

Totally agree with this. Also they need to rely less heavily on sexual tension to make the companion relationship interesting. Which is pretty much what happened with 12.

>>81547967
read the thread dingus
>>81547713

>>81547967
see >>81547713

>>81547777
It's trying hard to be Buffy, but, like almost all subsequent supernatural teen dramas (and some of the later seasons of Buffy…), it misses what makes Buffy actually work.

Buffy's characters don't take turns arbitrarily being the superhero. Buffy's monsters aren't just the way the whole universe is, so the hellmouth is something special. Buffy's monsters are obvious metaphors for the characters' teen angst, not just monsters.

>>81547914

Because

>>81547995

>>81547995
More Donnas and AsBills, fewer Series2Roses and Clalas

>>81547876
Do you have some kind of weird not-getting-saluted-by-Cybermen fetish?

>>81547995
12 hasn't had any romance. except for river.

>>81547769
Here
>BASED MOFFAT DOES IT AGAIN
Facebook
>This show is so boring now, bring back Tennant and RTD.
/r/doctorwho
>The ep was good but check out these Dalek cakes I made.

>>81548083

Just once is all I ask

>>81548137
I tried sex without a Cyberman saluting once. Never again.

>>81548105

Yeah, I maybe worded it badly. Basically I'm glad 12 is old and ragged and nobody wants to see perky twenty-somethings throw themselves at him.

>>81547769

The same old posters on Gallifrey Base: "Dire, utter dirge, can't wait for Moffat to go etc"

>>81548105
It's made a change, after 11 threw himself at people and got engaged about 3 times allegedly.

>Movellans (presumably)
>friends
>their only appearance had them betray the Doctor in the second half of the story

>>81548209
That was strange, because in S5, they were clearly going for novel-8, where everyone throws themselves at him and he usually just doesn't notice, but by S7 that seems to have been completely forgotten.

>>81548228
>implying the doctor remembers the graham williams years

>>81548228
He meant the Daleks, that's why he said "Well, I say friends."

>>81548248
yeah. it was in S6 when river became more involved they changed it. it was forced as fuck.

>>81548313
OH. I thought he said "safe friends"

>>81548248
Series 5 Smith was GOAT.

Then fuck knows what happened.

>>81548363
this. 11 was the best in S5. then they changed him and he became much more over the top.

>>81548324
There's really no reason they couldn't have made it work. There are multiple novels where 8 fell in love and/or lust with someone, and it didn't change the fact that he still didn't notice the rest of the universe throwing themselves at him, or turn him into a flirty-dorky-cute guy like it did 11.

>>81547562
She seemed like a complete psychopath to me. And she was totally reckless which was what ended up killing her.

>>81548453
That time she hung upside down out of the TARDIS in Face the Raven felt so out of character, to me. I didn't recall her doing anything crazy or mad like that before. Suddenly, cos it was the episode she would die in, it's like she had a random death wish for 5 minutes.

>>81548105
It's been said Clala and 12 were actually in a sort of romance in series 9, they just wouldn't admit their feelings.

>>81548506
>It's been said Clala and 12 were actually in a sort of romance in series 9, they just wouldn't admit their feelings.
by tumblr fans who project whatever the fuck they want to see onto the characters so they can write pages of oh so wanky 'meta'

I actually think the Wedding of River Song is the worst new who episode.

>>81548556
series 6 was the worst everything

>>81548539
No. It's been said by Moffat, Capaldi and Coleman.

>>81548593
no it hasn't.

>>81548593
>No. It's been said by Moffat, Capaldi and Coleman.
can't say I got that from the series.

Weirdly, S9 is actually a series where 12 and Clara are seperated in different subplots most of the time. Go through each episode and count the time/scenes they actually spent together - it's really not a lot.

>>81548573
series 6 was like a fever dream

So, I'm going to start listening to Dark Eyes, I haven't really listened to much other Big Finish but these stories struck me as ones that I'd enjoy.
Do I need to know much before jumping in or are they quite a good jumping on point?

>>81548768
Lots of people jump on there, you pretty much get told everything you need (8 has just undergone a traumatic event).

>>81548768
You might want to read a brief summary of how EDA S4 ended…but that might spoil the EDAs if you want to listen to them later. And really, all you need is that the ending was personally traumatic for the Doctor.

>>81548698
the opener is probably one of the ones i find most fun to rewatch, and the first half is generally solid, but i find story episodes in second half are awfull, with lets kill hitler and not giving us any connection to what the fuck happened in series 5. It was like the cracks just didnt exist all of a sudden. the ep with hand bots and god complex were nice though.

Whats everyones opinion on A Town Called Mercy? Just rewatched it and while its not as great as I remember its still not bad

>>81548910
Average at best, middling, watchable. Just sort of there and inoffensive.

>>81548859
If you ignore the arc, S6 is more good than bad.

It's just that S5 was all about the arc, and actually pulled it off, so that's what people expected. So when S6 failed to pull of its arc, it disappointed people a lot more than it should have.

>>81548910
Mediocre and forgettable as the rest of s7

>>81548910
I always liked it. One of the better eps of S7.

>>81548910
Solid filler episode, but it somehow feels like they missed an opportunity for more character development for the TARDIS crew in there.

>>81548910
One of my favorite who episodes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LwtFTdhIl4

>>81548158

Right? What's the point?

>>81548539
Watch Hell Bent again virgin. What do you think was said in the Cloisters?

>>81548856
I've listened to the first series of EDA so might go back to them, wanted to listen to these and then maybe transition into the main range after.

>>81549012
I literally couldn't give a fuck due to not investing in 12 or Clara throughout that series.

>>81548630
>Weirdly, S9 is actually a series where 12 and Clara are seperated in different subplots most of the time.
I hated this. How am I supposed to feel sad for 12 losing Clara if they haven't been together for a long amount time since Series 8?

>>81549100
S9 sometimes plays as though Clala was an afterthought, dropped into scripts later in the day. It's very weird. Sleep No More and Face the Raven are the only two episodes, I think(?) where they spend most of the episode together. Maybe Girl Who Died too.

>>81548910
It's pretty good.

>>81549026
So you're following the Eighth Doctor almost in reverse order but not quite exactly backward. Are you River Song?

Although, come to think of it, it's not like his story is presented in order. Or, for that matter, that it actually has a sensible order to be presented in, once they decided that Charley wasn't between the first two novels…

So, yeah, just listen in any order you want, it all works.

>>81548910
I really like a Town Called Mercy, haven't watched in a while but I remember thinking it was good.
I enjoyed the whole, "The Doctor is going too far without his companions" idea they throw in.
Might be my favourite of 7A

>>81548910
I remember hearing the Doctor namedrop the Master (the first time we'd heard that name since January 1st, 2010?) and suddenly thinking it was strange that Smith's era had gone so long without Davros and the Master.

>>81549208
I've listened to a couple of his main range ones and then the first series of EDA but I wasn't particularly a fan of that, and wasn't too keen on Lucy Miller really. So thought these might be a good place to get a taste of Paul Mcgann since I feel like I haven't listened to enough of him at all.

>>81549232
>I enjoyed the whole, "The Doctor is going too far without his companions" idea they throw in.
But there's not really any more for them to say about that. Sure, only 5000 people read the novels that did that, but everyone saw it redone with 10, so why do we need to see it again with 11?

>>81549309
That idea would've also worked better had the Ponds not been with him in the Mercy adventure. (After all, Rory just stood around and Amy didn't do much either.)

>>81549292
If you don't like Lucie, she's probably not going to grow on you, so skipping/putting off the rest of the EDAs makes sense.

>>81536590
>McGann, afaik isnt coming back, but BBC did try to get some mini episodes done with him after Night of the Doctor but Moffat vetoed it.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

We're streaming The War Games right now! Come join in on the Troughton KINO

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>>81543630
Shit Capaldi actually looks 10 years older now than when he started.

>>81549502
This looks like a rubber bullet.

>>81549459
The same Moffat who said "Night" could lead to more minisodes... and never fucking did.

>>81549502
...TIMING MALFUNCTION...

..STOP IT..

...ST-STOP I-IT

>>81549490
>War Games

So stream is ending tomorrow then?

>>81543630

Smith looked decent in his three series.

>>81549578

No makeup for this shot though - pure publicity stunt

>>81548126
too accurate

>>81547732
If by "leveled up" you mean "going from being a nonentity cipher and being given an arbitrary personality", sure.

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>>81549713
He still clearly aged though.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3320048/doctor-who-fans-enraged-as-newcomer-pearl-mackie-makes-epic-gaff-on-the-one-show/

>>81549953
It was joke ffs. Only 2 plebs from Twitter were enraged.

>>81549459
Does this mean we'll get McGann minisodes under Chibnall? COME BACK BBC ANON

>>81549953
All those pictures and clips give me eye cancer.

Did he call Doctor "Doctor Who" or something?

>>81549953
>doctor who fans
>taking to twitter to argue with it

Pick one

>>81549994

>Pearl at least has a valid excuse for not knowing what fuel the space/time machine uses – as she’s never actually watched the show.

On the other hand

>Oddly, fans were divided on what the Tardis (Doctor Who’s time travelling machine) actually runs on – but their anger was clear for all to see.

Jesus fucking christ this 'story'

>>81550130
The TARDIS runs on magic, as the post-Ancestor Cell EDA novels make clear.

I worked on S10 as a production designer.

AMA.

I worked on S11 as showrunner.

AMA.

>>81549953
>The London born beauty
My fucking sides.

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>tfw to inteligent for RTDwho

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doctor who is all i have left

im a 46 year old man

>>81550130
>>81550161
the TARDIS runs on artron energy

Maggie Moffat

>>81550404
....dad?

>>81550358
Not a question, I just wanted to thank you for bringing Tennant back

>>81550605
Yes, I don't know why Moffat didn't think of having Tennant play Rassilon as the new companion.

How come nobody cares about this series? None of my normie friends have even mentioned it. There's literally no hype. Was the marketing shit or something?

>>81550646
It's for kids really. If I didn't grow up with, there's no way in hell I would watch it. Once it latches into you as a child, it just grows with you.

new

>>81550694
>>81550694
>>81550694

>>81550363
Leave my waifu alone.

>>81550681
I mean I watched it as a kid as well but all my friends were watching it since series 7. I thought there would be more excitement for Capaldi's last hurrah

>>81550754
to be fair the normies I know don't even know it's his last series

Top 10 Capaldi stories: (1) Kill the Moon (2) The Zygon Invasion (3) Listen (4) In the Forest of the Night (5) Heaven Sent (6) Last Christmas (7) The Woman who Lived (8) Mummy on the Orient Express (9) Flatline (10) Into the Dalek

Let's see how that will change after Series 10

>>81550818
>(1) Kill the Moon
>(8) Heaven Sent
gtfo

>>81549953
really dumb story but have these fans never heard of catherine tate? lady still doesn't know what the fucking theme tune sounds like.

>>81550818
I am genuinely disgusted with you