Dark Knight as Tragedy

>>81448796
You're retarded.

>>81448843
KEK

i thought the same as well except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81448879

I understand what you're saying except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81449051
See I can get where you're coming from except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81449111

Look. Look. I respect your position except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81449157
I have a completely different take on this so hear me out: the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

Agreed.

In general, Batman, as a story, is about a traumatized billionaire scion who uses Gotham's underclass as a continual supply of punchable mooks, with a few minibosses thrown in. Bruce Wayne never attempts to fix the system, to create, shit, I dunno, a chain of walk-in mental health services for all of the PSYCHOS the city produces.

Instead, he just wants guys to punch. He'll never stop hitting some jagoff with a sixth grade reading level as a standin for revenging his parents.

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>>81448796

>>81449305
You're retarded.

The systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant

>>81450116
Listen faggot, you're close, but not quite. See, the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

BANE?

>>81448879
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>>81450238
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, hoo, hee haaa, ahoo, hee, haa ahaa.

And I thought *my* jokes were bad.

>>81450456

They would be bad except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

This pasta sucks. Stop using a proxy.

>>81450808

Believe it or not, I'm not doing that. You're wrong except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81448796
You don't understand politics or economics or history well enough to make these analogies.

>>81448879
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>>81450852
I understand where you're coming from. but you can't forget that the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81451047

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about my level of knowledge there. There are no real analogies except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

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>>81448796
Please analyse the dark knight rises opening scene OP

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>>81448796
>he criminal justice system undermines that system's ability to fight back against Bane.

What happened here in this sentence?

>>81451047
So instead of correcting him, and educating us all, you opted not to? Amazing. Truly.

>>81451378

It was mostly there to emphasize the inability of the authorities to deal with Bane. They are aware upfront that they are trying to squelch nuclear terrorism but are doubly deceived. First by the person that they think is selling them Dr. Pavel, who is in fact a double agent working for Bane. Secondly by the ruse making it appear that Dr. Pavel was killed in the plane crash. At every point the conventional authorities are outfoxed by the terrorists.

Other than that, you have to remember that Bane is a big guy except the systems that produced and enabled the mafia, the Joker, Scarecrow, and Bane remain intact at the end of the trilogy and the mantle of Batman is ultimately passed down to a freshly minted authoritarian taking up the trappings of the previous tyrant.

>>81451589
for you

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>>81452855
Checked.