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I'm deep into the 9 and a half hours of Shoah and its fucking

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I'm deep into the 9 and a half hours of Shoah and its fucking depressing. I have a feeling that there's a massive irrecoverable gap in humankind now. So many comedians, scientists, writers, lost forever, wiped out. The potentiality blown away.

There's a scene of a jew barber cutting hair in his shop and its full of guys getting their hair cut and waiting. He's holding court talking about how he had to cut the women's hair just before they were gassed 'cause the nazis used it. And all these real customers in the shop listening, 'this guy has seen some shit.'
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Didn't happen
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I wonder how this thread's going to go.
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Just like the holocaust this threads substance is non-existent
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>>81401916
>getting this upset over a mockumentary

I bet you think wrestling is real too huh
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>current year
>children from /pol/ still find holocaust denial edgy
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>>81402078
prove it happened
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>>81402047
>NAZIS A GOOD BOY! DINDU NUFFIN
How embarrassing
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>>81401916
>2017
>Still falling for muh Shoah

Come on now. You don't believe in 9/11 too do you?
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>>81401916
Remake when?
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>>81402127
9/11 had pictoral evidence of happening. Holocaust doesnt even have that
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>>81402113
Prove it didn't you fucking dweeb.
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>>81402047
>MUH SMOKESTACK SHADOWS
>MUH FOLDER OF MSPAINT .JPGS

it's kind of depressing that the only people who watch the crushing 9-hour documentary are the ones who realize the Holocaust did indeed happen, and the people who need to watch it are the least likely to actually sit through it. Their attention spans can't handle anything other than a /pol/ jpg.
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>>81401916
>I have a feeling that there's a massive irrecoverable gap in humankind now. So many comedians, scientists, writers, lost forever, wiped out. The potentiality blown away.

Dude 60 MILLION people died in WW2

60 MILLION

Even if you take the official number of 6mil that the jews love throwing out its such a small fraction of the atrocities and human suffering that happened in WW2. It doesnt get a special place on a pedistal because muh persicution muh chosen race.

The war claimed so many lives and to only focus on the holocaust and treat it as some kind of ultimate black mark in human kind is insulting to the other 54 MILLION people that died during the war.
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>>81402208
If you're saying something happened, you have to prove it.
Obviously jews and others died in the holocaust, but I believe the number and importance has been completely blown out of proportion.
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>>81402208
Burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Youre asserting x happened, you have to prove x happened.
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>>81402245
people getting systematically killed for no reason other than their ethnicity is pretty important to pay attention to.

this includes Roma and I would even say Serbs wiped out by the Ustase, among others.
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>>81402245
no wrong try again
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>>81402227
The internet is not for learning, but for confirming things I already believe.
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>>81402292

You wanna know something funny? It's probably gonna happen to European muslims in our lifetime and afterwards everyone's gonna claim they didn't see it coming and how it was singular atrocity that's never gonna happen again.

Until the next minority it's okay to hate comes along.
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>>81402439
i unfortunately agree with your prediction, that's very likely. very few people mean it when they say "never again."
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>>81402439
>Perhaps the experience of unprecedented storms, relentless droughts and the associated wars and south-to-north migrations will jar expectations about the security of resources and make Hitlerian politics more resonant. As Hitler demonstrated, humans are able to portray a looming crisis in such a way as to justify drastic measures in the present. Under enough stress, or with enough skill, politicians can effect the conflations Hitler pioneered: between nature and politics, between ecosystem and household, between need and desire. A global problem that seems otherwise insoluble can be blamed upon a specific group of human beings.

>Hitler was a child of the first globalisation, which arose under imperial auspices at the end of the 19th century. We are the children of the second, that of the late 20th century. Globalisation is neither a problem nor a solution; it is a condition with a history. It brings a specific intellectual danger. Since the world is more complex than a country or a city, the temptation is to seek some master key to understanding everything. When a global order collapses, as was the experience of many Europeans in the second, third and fourth decades of the 20th century, a simplistic diagnosis such as Hitler’s can seem to clarify the global by referring to the ecological, the supernatural or the conspiratorial. When the normal rules seem to have been broken and expectations have been shattered, a suspicion can be burnished that someone (the Jews, for example) has somehow diverted nature from its proper course. A problem that is truly planetary in scale, such as climate change, obviously demands global solutions – and one apparent solution is to define a global enemy.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/16/hitlers-world-may-not-be-so-far-away
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The guy was only pretending to give a haircut.

In all seriousness, though, this is an incredible film. It's almost painful how far the filmmaker pushes people to talk about things they don't want to remember. Even when they're crying and pleading him to stop, he forces them to continue for the sake of the film.
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>>81402047
Let me debunk your little jpg, friend

>BBC documentary "In the camps"
Doesn't exist
>Literally using Theresienstadt as proof

It's well known that Theresienstadt was a propaganda camp to fool the Red Cross.
And even so lots of people still died there.

>Horse grooming
This is another picture used by deniers to show us just how nice the prisoners of Auschwitz really had it. Except this is neither the Stammlager, nor Birkenau, nor Monowitz. Taken from the SS Auschwitz album, this image was most likely taken in the Babitz sub camp, near the depopulated village of Babice, opened in the first half of May 1943.

>Greenhouse
What we see here is most likely a photo taken by SS Unterscharführer Dietrich Kamann in 1941. These were built by slave labour in the German-occupied Polish village of Rajsko - a subcamp of Auschwitz-Birkenau, a few miles away from Birkenau.

Hundreds of female Auschwitz prisoners were forced to work tending flowers, plants and vegetables for their Nazi captors and also help conduct agricultural experiments: During the first part of the war the greenhouses were both the base for initial experiments in rubber production through the use of specially grown dandelions, and later growing vegetables and flowers.

The never reused glasshouses have remained untouched on private land since Auschwitz's liberation, and are derelict today.

Cont.
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>>81402439
Hopefully they'll be more successful this time
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>>81402292

>for no reason other than their ethnicity
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>MUH 6 GORILLION
Yeah nevermind the other people that died in WW2. Fuck jews.
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>>81402047
Continued from last post.

>Rabbit breeding
The angora project is well documented and you're retarded if you think it somehow "debunks" deathcamps
The Angora rabbit project was an SS project for breeding Angora rabbits. The objective was to provide fur for the linings of jackets for Luftwaffe pilots.

One of the denier trains of thought is that if cute things existed in horrible places, those places couldn't have been horrible. This is why they bring up the Angora project in their attempts to deny the holocaust. And of course also because comparatively few people know about this project, so when a denier drops this info on them and they say "no you are lying! there weren't any bunny rabbits in Auschwitz! Wtf is wrong with you", the denier can then take his sweet time to provide proof and thereby sow the seeds of doubt in the mind of the person(s) he is trying to convince - this is how holocaust deniers operate.

>Swimming pool
See pic

>Jewish children at Auschwitz in 1945
Children are in the photo because gassing was stopped by the end of 1944 and the camp wasn't liberated until January of 1945.
The fact that the denier is stupid enough to even spell it out that the children are wearing the clothing of adult inmates only underscores the lack of child inmate clothing in Auschwitz (hmm, I wonder why).

Cont.
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>>81402047
>>81402752
>>81403000

samefag
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>>81402292
>for no reason other than their ethnicity
yeah it's not like they destroyed Germany's economy, started a civil war and completely sold out the country with the treaty of Versailles
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>>81402047
Continued from last post

>Discharge papers
The discharge certificate you see at the bottom of the image, was standard issue paperwork supplied to many other camps as well, such as Sachsenhausen. Some people did indeed get discharged from internment in Auschwitz, but the questions you need to be asking is who and how. The picture shows a Slavic woman being discharged from Auschwitz - and what's more, this didn't mean she walked scot-free out of the camp. Instead, she had to report to a Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei) office in another city. During the war, some inmates originally interned in Auschwitz were sent to work in munitions factories in other parts of the Reich for the war effort. What's left to discuss? That the note says Arbeitserziehungslager (correctional facility) Birkenau? Well, you weren't honestly expecting the Nazi clerks to write Vernichtungslager Birkenau now, were you?

>Auschwitz soccer team
See pic

So the thing is that while those pictures may be new to you, they aren't new to historians, and the deniers like to act like they are presenting some radical new information the mainstream does not want YOU to know. These aren't revelatory -there is no "top secret Holocaust photo archive" in which pictures have been located that aren't available elsewhere. The deniers just take pictures actual researchers have uncovered in the past, and act like they've found some particularly damning evidence.

As far as that goes, holocaust deniers are hypocrites: If someone shows a picture of piles of corpses taken in 1945 from a concentration camp in Germany upon its liberation, they will point out that this tells us nothing about gassings, because these people weren't gassed. But then the deniers show us pictures like the swimming pool or the bunny rabbit farm to "prove" that gassings never happened. Double standard, much?
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>>81403029
try again sweetheart
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>>81402883
not an argument

>>81403048
yeah dude every single jew had a hand in that, giant jewish conspiracy and Our Guy God Emperor Adolf knew it; they couldn't trick him
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>>81403048
>yeah it's not like they destroyed Germany's economy, started a civil war and completely sold out the country with the treaty of Versailles

Yes, the Jews did all that by themselves. No gentile involvement at all. It was all the Jews conspiring against Germany.

>He doesn't know Germany financed Communism in Russia
lol
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>>81402439
Here's hoping. But now let's make it complete.
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>>81403160
dumping moar Holocaust redpills
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>>81401916
I strongly feel this OP is /pol/ satire.
Good one, btw
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>>81403160
It's stab in the back myth. Nazi propaganda is still the same.
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>>81402439
I fucking wish.
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>>81402255
Actually thats not how it works. The generally accepted fact is that it did happen. Plain and simple. Youre the one asserting it didn't which requires further proof outside of the mountain of evidence saying it did. When youre the one questioning the narrative the burden of proof lies on you.
Inb4 jew apologist, i just hate when faggots use MUH BURDEN OF PROOF completely wrong to get out of arguments
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>>81401916
lol, dude this is propaganda. u know teh holocaust didnt actually happen, right?
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>thread about motion pictures on the motion picture board
>thread derails into weather or not the holocaust was real
every time.
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>>81402752
>>81403000
>>81403074
>>81403160
>>81403199
You shouldn't bully the disabled anon.
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>>81401916
No worries, mate. It's all just a work of fiction after all.
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>>81403520
Hitler would've euthanised him though. Disabled were targetted right at the beginning.
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>>81402439
Can't wait :D
Maybe they should hurry back home to africa then?
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>>81403563
Hitler was a retard that led Germany to ruin. Who gives a fuck what he thinks?
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Why is it illegal to deny the holocaust but not deny Armenian genocide?
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>>81403810
Armenians are liked even less than the Jews.
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>mfw I secretly love these threads because autistic /pol/tards get btfo endlessly in each one
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>>81403810
Jewish propaganda

>>81403887
Must be great to live in constant delusion, retarded sjw
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>>81403887
You're not alone.
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>>81401916
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>>81403911
Your memes have already been debunked retard. Don't let me see you around here again, storm monkey.

>Hurr SJW
>Hurr JIDF

>>81403000
>>81403074
>>81403160
>>81403130
>>81403199
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>>81401916
I don't understand why you people come to this website, and then proceed to get upset that nobody shares your views and opinions.

There are many other larger, more popular websites for you to go spend your time on, where people will cheer you on.
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>>81403911
>muh jews
you polacks are delusional
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2bh it literally happened, just not as many as 6mill tho
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>>81401916
The Mongols did incomparably more damage for instance.
Hell, the Shoah, even taking the ridiculous "official" numbers is still a sideshow of WWII.
I mean, we all have our preferencesand perhaps you don't care about other things that have happened in histor, but the Soah is nothing special. Massacres have happened and they will happen again, and again, and again.
It's been 70 fucking years. Unless you are a very oldfag personally involved, there is as much reason to be moved by the lolocaust than by the war of the three kingdoms.
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>>81403956
>waaah
>waaaaaaah
Cry harder, kikelover
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>>81404109
>there is as much reason to be moved by the lolocaust
There is one good reason to remember the Holocaust. We must never let something similar happen again, to any group of people, not just Jews.

If such a civilised and cultured nation as Germans could've carried out something so horrific than it can happen again, anywhere.

That's the message of Holocaust. You must stand up to hate.
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>>81404241
have another (you), stormchild
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>>81404047
>not as many as 6 million though
Debunked. >>81403199
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>>81404296
>debunked

nice reddit pic, but no.
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>>81404323
Now where could your argument be?
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>>81404337
Yours first. And no, the fake tumblr witty png doesn't count minimally as 'argument'
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>>81404422
What's fake about it? Or are you confusing your own infographics whose sources range from outdated to non-existent?
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>>81404250
Yes, of course singling out Germany will be very useful...
And why the lolocaust then? There have been far more bloody massacres in history. Curious how the passage of Turko-mongol armies or the Mughals are never used as base points in this fight against "hate" in spite of being infinitely more relevant today than the deader than Elvis ideology of nazism.
Curious too how the fanatical anti-nazi didn't seem to care (most of them openly cheered) when one million Frenchmen were thrown out of Algeria or when Russians forced the settlement of Baltic countries.

Besides the whole thing is a non-argument, even if it wasn't this biased. Lolocaust crocodile tears have only ever been used the last 40 years to stigmatize anyone that doesn't want to just accept (for that's the word used) living with barbarian aliens, and only in some parts of the world.
This doesn't matter though, soon enough people will have to face the dilemma of choosing between "hate" and population replacement. There are worse things in the world than "hate" like, say, socialism.
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>>81404337
its a trite """debate""" 2bh, its just sad that you're defending what has become a religion at this point
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>>81404422
not an argument
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>>81404536
If my defending of my side of the argument is sad and the argument is so trite, surely it would be extremely easy for you and everyone else to offer a counter-argument against me and the images I presented, right?

How come all I'm getting are ad hominems and avoiding replies oddly similar to Jewish arguing tactics /pol/tards so often mock then? Or is it just a "they use it against us so it's OK for us to use it against them" sort of thing?
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jew here
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>>81401916
>So many comedians, scientists, writers, lost forever, wiped out.
You mean Nazis? Yeah it sucks, but luckily the USA and USSR snagged some of their boat so they could invent so much more cool shit.
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>>81404422
You have the burden of proof. Prove that 6 million Jews died.
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>>81404633
>acting a victim
im not even denying it happened bro, just the exaggerated numbers, im just saying your le epic images won't convince anyone at this point, and its sad that you're defending it like its a religious event, you're just playing into politics like a useful idiot.
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>>81404750
>im just saying your le epic images won't convince anyone at this point

Feel free to disprove them.
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>>81402292
>Religious sect
>Ethnicity
Perhaps you should open a book, anon, and read some.
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>>81404732
Population statistics.
Where did 6 million Jews just disappear to?
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>>81404633
>using /pol/ as a talking point
/pol/ hasn't been /pol/ since shareblue and /leftypol/ took over last November. Now bombing Muslims and starting wars is bad.
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Never happened.
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>>81404823
>Population statistics
Where are the proofs, goy?
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>>81404828
>/pol/ post-election: Trump is great! Hillary is a warmonger! We're finally winning! We're finally focusing on our own nation instead of sticking our noses in the middle east!
>/pol/ post-syria: War is great! I'm not afraid of war! Put all our resources in a war against the middle east!

Man, /leftypol/ sure are a strange bunch.
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>>81403048
you're really fucking dumb, you know that? I'm sure you think the Protocols are real, too.
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>>81404972
i took an online iq test and have an iq of 160. kill yourself
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>>81404972
i took an online iq test and have an iq of 1.600.000. kill yourself
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>>81405064
thanks for the post.

>>81404891
>recycling nazi propaganda 70+ years later

you lost, get over it :^)
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>>81404891
>Still posting the same old debunked images
Hmmm...

>Rifle
It's a Vz. 24 which was used by German forces
>Uniform
It's funny how little stormfags know about their beloved Nazi uniforms. See pic.

>left side
LMAO
It's interesting, because I have yet to come across a (Soviet?) publication that showed merely the images on the left and tried to pass them off as authentic. In fact, various search tools only yielded me denier websites who had already "uncovered this hoax" with the fake/original comparison shots as shown above. Chances are, deniers photoshopped the left images themselves, only to discredit them with the originals on the right and then say "woah guys, look what we uncovered!"

>Le Jewish civil war meme
I like how Stormies conveniently forget how the German government themselves funded Lenin and how Karl Liebknecht wasn't even Jewish
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son of saul was fucking kino
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>>81403810
Kek in Turkey it's actually illegal to claim it even happened
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>>81405188
Your tumblr sissy passive aggressive sophistry doesn't count minimally as 'argument', nigger.
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>>81401916
I feel like I'm not ready for it at 23. Gonna wait until I'm older to fully understand it.
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>>81405345
>Get called out on your retarded debunked images
>Hurrr TUMBLR
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>>81401916
I came 27 times during this movie.
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>>81405386
lol fag
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>>81405388
But you are also tumblr-like, JIDF
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>>81405695
>HURR TUMBLR
OK /pol/
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>>81405617
don't bully me Daniel
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All these blue pilled numales Sad!
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>>81404250

>We must never let something similar happen again

Oh so you are against migrants? Fucking racist.
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>>81402752
>>81403000
>>81403074
Holy shit you actually irrevocably BTFO that stormfag. I was gonna reply and counter his arguments (I have most of the same photos you posted saved) but you did a way better job of it than I ever could have.
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>>81401916
oy vey
good for you goy- I mean, guy !
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I didn't like the end when the guy turns to camera and says

>so... the holocaust really did happen. I'm Shoah of it.
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>>81401916
you're too pure for /tv/, ganbate anon
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>>81406323
Truly tragic. I'm very sorry he stole your shekels. Gotta try harder next time.
Competition is tough in the jidf ranks.
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>>81406476
lol at least you're not even trying to deny you got BTFO
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>>81406450
I doubt that. Just a falseflag
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>>81401916
Does it shows the train carts that went directly to the ovens and when the cart reached the end of the line it would flip and throw everybody inside on to the fire?
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>>81406501
Sure, sure, what a BTFO that was.
Israel smiles wide today when that /pol/ babby finally got beat
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>>81406581
Trump is pro-Israel you absolute douchebaby
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>>81406628
Damn, what a thing. Makes the head go crazy all these wild associations, right? Haha, silly Don
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Most Jews who died in the Holocaust died cuz Americans bombed the railroads and factories that supplied the camps with food and as the war went on they starved.

A lot of others were killed by the Russians as well who used the pictures they took as propaganda.

There's no question that Hitler put Jews in camps and that Jews died in these camps but the idea that a hundred a day were thrown into ovens and gas chambers is fantasy that people believe in because your career will be destroyed if you publicly question it
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real or not, most of them were and are pieces of shit in more than one way.
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>>81402752
>>81403000
>>81403074
>Somebody spent time and effort to comprehensively rebuke a Holocaust denial shitpost on /tv/
I don't know whether that's impressive or ridiculous. Do you honestly believe that an underage redneck is going to be willing, or even able, to even read your posts?
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>>81406712
>Most Jews who died in the Holocaust died cuz Americans bombed the railroads and factories that supplied the camps with food and as the war went on they starved.
Wrong

>A lot of others were killed by the Russians as well who used the pictures they took as propaganda.

That's wrong as well

>There's no question that Hitler put Jews in camps and that Jews died in these camps but the idea that a hundred a day were thrown into ovens and gas chambers is fantasy
It's true though

Six million people don't just disappear.
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>>81401916
>it's another depressing Jewish movie about their suffering

The kikes are such insufferable faggots. Boo fucking hoo, stop making movies about it already. Get over yourselves.
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>>81402292
>for no reason
lmao, this happens all the time, nobody gives a fuck though because it's not Jews.
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>>81403887
Hating Jews != Holocaust Denial
but
Holocaust Denial = Angry Jews
so it's funny.
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>>81404250
>If such a civilised and cultured nation as Germans
The Weimar Republic was not civilized or cultured.
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>>81406534
ah yes the holocoaster
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>>81403000
>>81403074
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>>81407394
yeah I guess it's easier for you to post more meaningless pics instead of admit to actual proof.
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>>81406926
>"no redpill macro about jews should be trusted"
>says a redpill macro about jews
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>>81407417
You don't have actual proof more than /pol/ has actual proof. You're the same vermin as they are.
And more than anything should be battling on that board, not /tv/
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>>81407417
that poster just reminded me of don quichot. you know, noble knight engaging in futile battle. my first post ITT.
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>>81407289
sweet, downloading it now on my iphone.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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