Black Mirror

>>81368408
>but the episode itself left me with an awful taste in the mouth.

When they bust him for kiddie porn he'll have the same problem. Every damn day

>teehee silly me! I got a malware by pirating movies, wich is wrong! I shoul've bought a netflix ™ subscription!

what did netflix mean by this?

best episode of the season

the only one to stick the landing besides hated in the nation

>>81368433
I honestly feel bad the most for the suit guy. You know he is killing himself at the moment his wife takes his kids away from him.

>>81368408

Ya that was one of the only ones that left me uncomfortable at the end.

>>81368408
>>81368564
That was one of the most painful eps, the rest all sort of ended optimistically.

>>81368579
I dont think any episode ended optimistically at all, at most they had "everything is the same" endings. Probably Be Right Back is the happiest one to a degree.

>>81368534
>hated in the nation

that was one awesome in the end, where his wife wouldnt even speak to him still after all those years. kinda how i imagine trump and his wife right now.

>>81368607
I was talking S3 specifically there, it was the light season.

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>>81368408
it gave all kinds of ideas to me tbqh

you can make people do all kinds of shit if you have evidence of them being a pedo

hands down the best episode, and fucking Bron was in there too

search on youtube for 'creep catchers' or 'nounce hunter' or 'internet interceptors' and you'll see hundreds of videos of these groups of few guys hunting pedos online, they basically get all of their info, messages and all of it as evidence and then they arrange a meet, but what if you did all that but just black mailed them instead. you could make them do anything... you're a drug dealer? you can make them distribute drugs for you or some shit like that

>>81368631
different episode g

>>81368607

Nosedive imo ended optimistically.

She stopped caring so much about her rating and can start living her life as a lesbian truck driver.

>>81368607
the one where its about getting "likes" ended good didnt it? she stopped caring about all the stupid likes and clout and made some speech about how it sucked, i forget how it ended tho lol did she kill herself?

>>81368662
That was tha happiest ending, her and some random guy just smiling and insulting each other for the freedoms of it.

>>81368632
Well Playtest ended like shit too.

>>81368686

No it ended with her being a stronk woman and yelling insults at that guy while in jail.

>>81368637
>Bron

HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT

>>81368655
oh ya its the bee one, meh didnt really hit anywhere home to me as the other eps did

>>81368705
The bad guy nobody liked died horribly, Japanese game man gives no fucks. That's a good ending.

>>81368632
s3 was only light if you're immune to subtext.

>>81368712
oh ya lol, pretty good ending tho. what if it ended that she got all the likes and in with her cool friends crowd, but was ignoring her brother and families calls and shit just being some "yes man" to her friend.

>>81368749

Lol dumb nigga should have turned his phone off

>>81368692
they're still trapped in a world where all that matters is how much ass you kiss

hell, literally imprisoned for an indeterminate amount of time.

>>81368749
>Bad guy

He was a good guy tho. I liked him.

>>81368757
Brooker could have used his powers for evil, like in S1&2.

>>81368637
In reality (for now at least) you won't have that much leverage over a "pedophile."

The point of the episode is there is are consequences people are more afraid of than going to jail, consequences for things that aren't ostensibly illegal.

>>81368607
san junipero

>>81368815
its better to put the darkness in subtext so people can walk away thinking "well that was cool, eternity in a digital 80s? Sign me up" before they realize "oh right, the quagmire was the largest place in the episode by several magnitudes and it was filled with people essentially killing themselves over and over, desperate to feel anything even remotely close to real and the only reason the black chick stayed is because she got a thrill out of crashing the jeep and flying through the windshield"

>>81368880

We don't talk about that piece of garbage episode here.

>>81368607
>ending of Be Right Back
>little girl goes up to see her fake robot dad
>"i know you dont teach anything, im just using you as an excuse so i can get an extra slice (of cake)"
>cake causes hits of dopamine in the brain
>the same way love does
>the daughter using the robot is exactly the same way the mom is using the robot
>they know its not real, theyre just using it

HOLY SHIT THAT LAST LINE IS GENIUS MIND BLOWN

>>81368846
>The point of the episode is there is are consequences people are more afraid of than going to jail


maybe for bron character but not for the main guys those hackers attack, their main prey are pedos and you will always have all the leverage in this world over a pedophile you have evidence for being a pedophile

>>81368897
Yes, there is always some darkness. Only reason black chick stayed was as a pity eternity for cute white girl. But then they can always permakill themselves later. Still very sweet.

I still think Nosedive had the happiest ending.

>>81368923
Being a pedophile isn't illegal.

The level of computer literacy on display by the kid was that of "going to google and typing in kids and beating meat," not finding CP.

The hackers weren't blackmailing him with the content of his hard drive, they were blackmailing him with a video of him beating meat to clothed images of children.

>people actually think the kid was downloading cp

>>81368923
what digital evidence could you possibly have against a pedo that you acquired by hacking that the pedo couldn't just say you fabricated by hacking?

>>81368959
>Only reason black chick stayed was

tfw people post things that confirm they didn't even read half your post

>>81368972
That was ambiguous but
>pizza is difficult to come by
>UK isn't 1984 and thoughtcrime is worse than real crime

He was completely fucked no matter what

>>81368991
Maybe half your post was pointless standard-level Brooker darkness commentary. "Oh the world is so bleak because bad things are depicted in it" but unrelated to anything else.

>>81368408
Objectively the worst written episode. All that journey for big 'fuck you' ending. Same goes for the 'call mom' episode. What a cunt.

>>81369028
Welcome to Black Mirror, every episode is a 'fuck you' episode.

>>81368995
>He was completely fucked no matter what

"sir this hacker sent us a video of you jacking off to cp"
"that video is bullshit, officer"

case fucking closed.

>>81368779

The metaphor of the ending is that she is happier being literally imprisoned but free to say whatever she wants than she is being superficially free but "imprisoned" in expressing herself

>>81369061
He sent it to the cops and his mom, and the mom alone was enough to get him to do the other crimes they got him for. He was fucked either way.

>>81368880
There is no way those lesbians had a happy afterlife together. Stuck there for eternity.

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>>81368972
>Being a pedophile isn't illegal.

it kind of is tho so

even if you have just talked once with a child online sexually you have committed a crime, and if someone had a record of you committing that crime you would be put on a list and your whole life would be ruined. Then if you arranged to meet a child from the internet, that's even worse and you can get like 5 years in jail for that. You don't have to even show up.

So yeah, you don't actually have to kidnap and rape a child to face serious consequences.

>>81369037
You're an idiot. Most of them are well written. What I ment is the ending is completely rushed and undermines the first two acts. Stupid Reddit faggot.

>>81368408
>downloading a program called shrive
kek

>>81369080
That's not what "being fucked either way" means.

The other way is calling the hacker on his bluff and feigning innocence with about a 95% chance of success. But that's not what a retarded kid would do, so yea.

Never seen this show, nor know what it's even about. Should I.waste.my time with getting involved in another basic show? Or is it really worth checking out?

>>81369107
oh no those poor poor pedos
literally nothing they could have done

>>81369080
the cops were there because he robbed a bank and murdered someone

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>>81369061
>get him to rob a bank under the threat of telling everyone he's a pedo,
>so he goes to jail for 10 year
>tell everyone he's a pedo anyway
>he's all alone now and in jail for a long time
>not to mention you got him to murder a man too

so


>>81369080
that's what these guys try to do, but lets say hacker was catfishing him and the kid sent him nudes where he could be identified? that's not hard to do, all these faggots fall for it https://youtu.be/CaNhZezqA0g

it's ez pz

>>81369102
they weren't stuck and it was written definitely as the happily-ever-right-now sort of thing.

>>81369120
Well the playtest ep was trash, honestly doesn't belong except maybe they got to play with a spooky house and cgi for a day.

>>81369138
There is no success possible when you have to feign innocence, that's not how it works. Like when you get arrested but aren't guilty your life is still ruined. The only glimmer of hope left is that maybe they won't fuck you over anyway. The ending was pretty amazing, the kid killed some old pedo who had it coming even more. Very kino finale.

>>81369156
its like the twilight zone of the future, pretty good imo

Why would I feel bad for some pedo? You are being socially engineered to feel sorry for predators.

>>81369107
Those are all actions that you can choose not do while still being a pedo. Hence simply existing as a pedo is not a crime. There are plenty of dumbass pedo activists that host blogs about how much they want to fuck kids that aren't going to prison because there's no proof they've committed any crime.

>>81369234
Existing as a pedo isn't a crime but you will still be punished for it if it's public. It's probly also a crime in the dystopian society of modern day UK, most things are.

>>81369107
>it kind of is tho so
Sexual assault is illegal. Sexual interest is not.

> Then if you arranged to meet a child from the internet, that's even worse and you can get like 5 years in jail for that. You don't have to even show up.
Wrong.

>So yeah, you don't actually have to kidnap and rape a child to face serious consequences.
Sending lewd messages to what probably amounts to an entrapment-enthusiast is not a punishable offence.

>>81369211
>There is no success possible when you have to feign innocence, that's not how it works.
By your logic, the conviction rate should be 100%. Retard.
> Like when you get arrested but aren't guilty your life is still ruined.
Staying out of jail is a success in this case.

>>81369211
>There is no success possible when you have to feign innocence, that's not how it works.
What the fuck are you talking about?

Seriously, just say you have no clue who this guy is and that you didn't do anything.
Who is your mom going to believe, some anonymous faggot that demonstrated that he can edit videos to show whatever he wants to show, or you?

The kid would have been put in an embarrassing situation, but if there's no prior suspicions of him being a pedo, then no one is going to believe some literal internet troll.

>>81369258
Its not a crime. Your life will be ruined because you outed yourself as a pedo and people will not want to talk to you anymore, thats not dystopia, thats just not having autism and realizing there is no reason you should be able to proclaim you want to fuck kids and everyone be forced to still tolerate you. Pedo rights are not an issue, there is no reason you have to tell anyone this shit or ever act on it, fuck off.

>>81369107
Just dont talk with kids online sexually and suppress your urges or kys. Simple as that.

>>81369262
we go over this every hansen thread. There are laws on the books in the US at least that make it a criminal offense to say sexual things to something "you think" is an underage person.

You're right that arranging a meet isn't a crime though.

>>81368408

It was unrealistic, all they have which was undeniable was a video of him 'jacking off to something on his screen', he could just have deleted everything on his harddrive and they would have nothing by ratting him to the cops, because nothing they have downloaded from him would count as any kind of evidence.

Else I could just hack into someone's computer (which is of course highly illegal), download some shit and then add a ton of childporn and say 'this was all on his computer, I swear! put him in jail'.

>>81369294
>>81369295
Staying out of jail is a minor success at best if your life is ruined anyway. You're on fucking 4chan you should know better. Also your mom believes that nigerian princes need some pocket change to unlock her billion dollar inheritance.

>>81369305
It could be a crime, some distorted disturbing the peace or whatever that applies to literally any act they feel it should. UK is pretty fucked.

>>81369258
Punished socially? I guess, but if you're such a fucking weirdo that you would publicly talk about being a pedo, that probably wouldn't have much of an effect on you.

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>>81369234
pro tip faggot, there's no such thing as 'being a pedo'. behavior in a species characterized by dramatic changes in behavior , can't be used as a valid classifier.

it's not you, it's something you do. you can be doing something else just the same. sexuality is just a story you tell yourself while waiting to orgasm. When I was a kid I would jerk off to a white wall while trying not to think of anything. Sometimes I would literally just keep saying "nothing" in my head over and over again. Don't know why, I'm a bit autistic. But orgasm felt the same. If you apply pressure and warmth and rhythmic motion to your genitalia, you will orgasm. All the sexual fantasies you have? That's all a joke m8.

>tfw people take a little story they tell themselves to pass the time while waiting to cum and then construct their whole ideantity around it

god damn, I hate identity politics so much

>>81369318
NO THIS IS A HUGE DEAL
ME BEING ABLE TO GET OFF ON MY FETISHES CONSTITUTES LAW CHANGE AND OVERIDES LAWS ON CHILD PROTECTION

>>81369320
> There are laws on the books in the US at least that make it a criminal offense to say sexual things to something "you think" is an underage person.
I´d like a side dish of some proof, please. What you´re describing is thought crime.

>>81369331
Some faggot online has no capability of ruining your life if you just deny everything.

Once again, if you aren't a creep then no one is going to believe some internet troll over you.

>>81368408
>that kid in the restaurant

jesus...

>>81369331
>It could be
This is not evidence. Children should be protected above pedos who literally just need to jerk off to something else, thats literally all they have to do. Why the fuck do you consider this an issue?

>>81368995
the entire point of the episode was hackers getting non-criminal pedophiles to commit actual crimes (or get murdered) so the police would arrest them.

If the kid had downloaded CP and the hackers had monitoring software on his computer they would not have needed to have him rob a bank and murder a dude on camera to get him arrested.

>>81369357
go google "online solicitation of a minor"

>>81369338
"pedo" is literally, by every single description you can find, just a label for a kind of person.

So yea retard, you can literally just "be" a pedo.

>god damn, I hate identity politics so much
yes clearly you hate it so much you spout retarded nonsensical bullshit jsut to spite it. identities exist as a concept whether you like it or not, and that includes being a pedo.

>>81369357
US isnt free at all, stop deluding yourself. The US is a shitty place to live.

>>81369357
You're naive (fucking retarded) if you don't believe thought crime is literally a thing today.

>>81369367
Any faggot online has the capability of ruining most peoples lives for the hell of it. You are literally living in the year of our lord two-thousand and seventeen.

>>81369380
>>81369385
My point was more along the lines of there's more laws than humans can comprehend and they're bent by either side far outside their original intent anyway.

Yeah, maybe the kid was "innocent" of crimes, maybe they didn't even fucking record what he was jerking it to. They just had to convince him they could hurt him to actually hurt him. Hell the other 'victim' convinced him more than anyone.

>>81369380
Why don't you just jerk off to gay porn instead of objectifying women, you sexist pig?

>Why the fuck do you consider this an issue?
Because I demand you be my best friend even though I'm a pedo. It should literally be a crime to NOT support pedos.

>>81369328
I think he had some more incriminating shit. Thats the reason he broke down crying when Hector told him the hackers got everything from his hard-drive.

>>81369338
>it's not you, it's something you do. you can be doing something else just the same.
"Something you do" is a part of who "you" are, moron. Furthermore, if we assume that "you can be doing something else just the same", why are people sexually attracted to different things? Following your logic, gays/heteros/others should be able to get their junk hard at the thought of anything. Unfortunately for you, that´s not how it works.

>>81369430
>It's a "just make the same baseless claim over and over again until the other poster gets tired" episode

>>81369423
>US isnt free at all
Certain parts of it are more free than any other place on earth, politically speaking.
>The US is a shitty place to live
Unless you are loaded with money and power beyond belief, it is the best place to live.

>>81369455
He could literally tell the cops the hacker just planted whatever on his hard drive.

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>>81369409
holy shit are you retarded
there's nothing different between your brain and a brain of a homosexual or a bisexual or a lesbian or a pedophile.

literally nothing. Not one thing ever confirmed by science. You literally just got stuck on a loop of doing shit you do and you started believing that's who you are. There is nothing that forces you to be like that. It's all make believe essentially...

fuck, constructing an identity on top of your nationality makes more sense than constructing it around your current sexual fetishes

read pic related
you'll understand how and why certain behaviours are compartmentalized and racialized and politicized

I forgot /tv/ was the low IQ board...

>>81369486
Thought crime is real, that's why TCAP works. Social engineering is strong but not profitable, other forms of online scam are commonplace. General identity fraud is also incredibly commonplace and is a huge inconvenience at minimum. I don't know where your counterevidence is that you can't both ruin a life with police help or without.

>>81369430
what got the kid to shut up and dance was the threat of sending the video of him beating his meat to kids to everyone he knew. He was perfectly fine with committing actual crimes because he thought he could get away with them without people finding out.

>>81369547
You're all over the place and getting yourself confused. The episode is pretty straight forward and has nothing to do with online solicitation.

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>>81369538
>this entire post

>>81369569
That's the implication for the first 90% of the episode AND IT IS COMPLETELY BELIEVABLE. People criticizing the ending are retarded.

>>81369611
>solicitation
What? Thought crime is real, there is evidence of it being real. It's real in other places but less blatantly.

>>81369455

>I think he had some more incriminating shit. Thats the reason he broke down crying when Hector told him the hackers got everything from his hard-drive.

Unless they had images of him actually jacking off to child porn (where would those images come from, unless he took a selfie, which makes no sense) then they have nothing that is incriminating at all.

None of the contents they've downloaded from his drive could in anyway be proven to come from his drive (and would be inadmissable even if they magically could, since they were gathered unlawfully).

All he had to do was delete everything on the drive and that would be it.

The shame he would suffer would be a video of him jacking off 'to something'

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>>81369470
>why are people sexually attracted to different things?

random experiences they had throughout their lives, the 'configuration' they ended up with is no more valid that the one I could make by locking them in a basement and torturing them until they can only get it up to red alarm clocks specifically and nothing else

>gays/heteros/others should be able to get their junk hard at the thought of anything

yes, literally. You can train yourself to be aroused by anything and everything, and it wouldn't be any less valid that the 'configuration' you have now because even that configuration was a concequence of a training of sorts, just not a conscious training.

No different that even if you hate sardinees more than anything else in the world you can still eat them every day to the point where you don't mind, hell at some point you'll start actually liking them.

It's all just behavior, and the think that separates humans from all other animals is that we can make ourselves into anything we want.

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>>81369547
>Thought crime is real, that's why TCAP works.
>a show about stupid people choosing to perform certain illegal actions and then waiving their legal rights because they're stupid is proof thoughtcrimes are real

pedos, everyone.

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>>81369538

>>81368408
pedo deserved it.

>>81369525
Yeah, i just assume that there was some irrefutable proof of his pedoness in there.

Its so fucked up. I feel bad for him but at the same point to a degree he deserved it. Unless it was just clothed kids like some anon said, then poor fucking pedo. Very conflictive feelings.

>>81369659
Nah, the law in that specific county in Florida or wherever they film it that season is that SHOWING UP to a meeting while intending to meet an underage person is a crime. It doesn't matter if there's a possibility for that crime ever existing. Thought Crime.

>>81369631
online solicitation is the general school of criminal acts you're calling "thought crime." The episode has nothing to do with them. The kid is arrested at the end for armed robbery and murder. On top of that his parents know hes a pedophile.

I assume /tv/ lost their shit when the episode first aired, right?

>>81369538
>there's nothing different between your brain and a brain of a homosexual or a bisexual or a lesbian or a pedophile.
>Not one thing ever confirmed by science
Your third wife is calling for you, Achmed/James/Mgambe. Away with you. Shoo.

>I forgot /tv/ was the low IQ board...
>says the troglodyte who believes in a blank slate
Locke and Rousseau were wrong.

>>81369672
Even if he was jacking it to real cp, why the fuck does he deserve it?
He isn't hurting anyone, and he's still clearly a dumb kid by his own actions.

>because jacking it to cp somehow harms kids again blabla
im not saying he deserves no punishment whatsoever, but how the fuck does he deserve specifically what happened to him?

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>>81369660
>>81369621


>retards that don't realize that there's not one thing different between your brains and the brains of homosexuals or transsexuals or pedos

there isn't anything that made them into what they are but their own experiences, it's not a valid thing, if they had a different life experience they wouldn't be that but would be something else

like everyone on submarines ends up being gay, or did you know that majority of sex in prisons is consensual?

other primate species exibit the same kind of changes in sexual behavior because sexual behavior is not something innate to you, just like having a fetish to ejaculate on a woman's feet is not something innate to you. There's not a line of code in your programming that tells you to like that specific thing. You literally do it randomly, for no reason at all.

>>81369646
to be fair, negro, once neuralplasticity settles down (in your late 20s or early 30s) it becomes harder to retrain your sexual imprinting. Especially after 20 years of sucking cock and getting off on it.

Though as a virgin you can easily realign your sexual preference.

>>81369646
>It's all just behavior
Nice tautology, pseudo-intellectual faggot.
>and the think that separates humans from all other animals is that we can make ourselves into anything we want.
If that is the case, you´d better start "making" your IQ grow by a few points - maybe then you´ll understand why your reasoning is factually wrong.

>>81369691
nah nigga, TCaP is always hosted in states where the crime is committed in the chatlogs and getting them to the house is just for the sake of filming their humiliation.

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>>81369691
>SHOWING UP
> a physical action performed IRL is a thoughtcrime

pedos, everyone

>>81369767
Well yeah, he doesnt deserve THAT much, but he deserves a degree of punishment. Probably all what he did before the bank robbery. This because he probably wont watch it ever again after the scare.

>>81369806
Yes, but the crime they intend to commit is physically impossible and thus thought crime.

>>81369794
Hes kind of a dipshit but hes not wrong about neuroplasticity and how all behavior is essentially conditioned.

>>81369772
>there isn't anything that made them into what they are but their own experiences
Your opinion is factually wrong. Nature beats nurture. Biological hardwiring determines most of our actions.

>There's not a line of code in your programming that tells you to like that specific thing.
There literally is.
>You literally do it randomly, for no reason at all.
You literally don´t.

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>>81369794
>maybe then you´ll understand why your reasoning is factually wrong.

post ONE(1) scientific study showing that there are differences in the brain of the individuals dictating their sexual preferences. Just one. I'll wait.


and before you ask, irl in 8 grade I was tested 125, this is from like couple of months ago on the official norway mensa test, so suck dick you faggot

>>81369855
>Your opinion is factually wrong. Nature beats nurture. Biological hardwiring determines most of our actions.


you can't claim that behaviour is genetic if that behavior will make someone not want to reproduce and therefore not spread the genes responsible for that behavior in the first place. How retarded can you be?

>There literally is.

Ok faggot, I'll give you like 10 000$ for you to get your genome sequenced and you find me a line of your genetic code that makes you want to ejaculate on women's feet. I fucking dare you.

>>81369856
uh, negro, there's that stupid study where they compared brainscans of trans and non-trans people and found the trans brainscans were closer to the identified gender than biological gender.

This doesn't mean you're wrong about neuroplastciity, you're just getting more and more dipshitty.

heres how it is snowflakes

IF YOU CAN BE BORN GAY THEN YOU CAN BE BORN PEDO

if homosexualty isnt a choice neither is pedo.

you cant have it both ways libtards

>>81369809
Nah, I think you underestimate how compelling human sexuality is.

I think it's fair to jail pedos for dling cp, just that they shouldn't be on the same registry as hardcore child rapists.

>>81369927
you aren't born with sexuality, that's idiotic.

>>81369941
the coalinga guys agree. They'll only inter people who've physically touched a real victim.

>>81369918
>the trans brainscans were closer to the identified gender than biological gender.

but they also show that MtF transsexuals are still closer to biological males than FtM transsexuals are, by a HUGE margin.

If those two somehow switched places that would give it some relevance but like this it literally means nothing. It literally shows that transmen are still more woman like than transwomen are. It literally disproves their point. Stupid trannies...

Also, nice racism. I'm not a negroman, although I do have an 8 inch dick so

>This doesn't mean you're wrong about neuroplastciity

of course I'm not wrong. give me a car battery and some jumper cables and I could make you into anything

>>81369927
but you can't be born gay, there's not one scientific study that proved that, and it makes no logical sense

it's not a choice either tho, it's just random shit that you have experienced shaping your behavior, that's it

>>81369846
>Hes kind of a dipshit but hes not wrong about neuroplasticity and how all behavior is essentially conditioned.
Neuroplasticity is not followed by a lockean blank slate. All behavior is not conditioned.

>post ONE(1) scientific study showing that there are differences in the brain of the individuals dictating their sexual preferences. Just one. I'll wait.
Neuroscience is not simple, and with research methods currently available does not provide exact answer to most commonplace plebeian questions, including your homophobia.
>and before you ask, irl in 8 grade I was tested 125, this is from like couple of months ago on the official norway mensa test, so suck dick you faggot
>125 IQ
>genius
Du är pantad och dina politiska åsikter är jämförbara med den jämförbart pantade Breiviks dito. Den sociala rättvisans förkämpar - dvs. genomsnittliga norrmän - har faktiskt inte fel i allt, din kontrarevolutionära lilla skit.

>>81369980
>study shows trans scans are closer to identified than born gender
>BUT THEY ALSO SHOW THAT TRANS SCANS ARE CLOSER TO BORN GENDER THAN IDENTIFIED GENDER

... I think you need to stop posting.

oh nice! /tv/ is talking about the 3rd season of black mirror, i really liked it and cant wait to discuss....

its just a thread where a bunch of pedophiles are trying to justify their fucked up lifestyles. this board is shit

>>81370070
We're better human beings than you, cry about it.

>black mirror thread
>derails into some stupid shit arguing about pedos

fucking hate 4chan now

>>81369915
>you can't claim that behaviour is genetic if that behavior will make someone not want to reproduce and therefore not spread the genes responsible for that behavior in the first place.
Why couldn´t you claim that?
>How retarded can you be?
Not as retarded as you, who - as indicated by your penchant for seeking perfect, logical answers to human behavior - apparently believe in Intelligent Design.

>genome sequencing blah blah women´s feet blah blah
I don´t need to prove an absurdly detailed hypothesis right to prove you wrong. Genetic influence on human behavior is a well-established scientific fact. Make of that what you will.

>>81370044
are you retarded?

it literally shows that in the parts of the brain responsible for gender trannies are still closer to men than MtF transsexuals are. That literally nullifies your point you dumb fuck.

It means that trannies are still less of a woman than women who transitioned into men and got those fake dicks

>>81370028
>All behavior is not conditioned.

this is intensely arguable.

lets just say behavior is emergent, rather than genetic. People aren't going to suddenly start trying to eat with their ears, for instance, as that isn't biologically possible.

>>81370142
>the parts of the brain responsible for gender

you really need to start seriously considering the possibility you only have half a clue what of you're talking about.

>>81369927
the "born gay" thing was a political argument made to sync gay rights with civil rights. Its technically true as a person is born with the ability to be gay, straight, or whatever. But this also does not mean it is a choice.

>>81370148
>this is intensely arguable.
It is not. You are, by and large, a product of your genetic heritage. Here´s a simple way to prove the plausibility of my thesis: estimate the IQ of your parents by taking into account their vocabulary, vocation, educational achievements and general character. Continue by comparing the estimate you´ve arrived at with your own self-confessed "genius" IQ. The finding should be a clear link between your parents´ IQ and your own IQ.

>>81368437
He was downloading child porn you retard

>>81370275
>Its technically true as a person is born with the ability to be gay, straight, or whatever.
That is as ridiculous as claiming that a person is "born with the ability to be feeble-minded, middle-of-the-pack or intellectually superior". It is falsehood, conjecture, deception of a nefarious kind - your fate is decided mostly by parental genetics. The current academic consensus is 70-80% inheritance, 30-20% environment; I myself, however, firmly believe that the scales will be tipped in favor of the fatalists more and more, day by day, in a speed directly proportionate to the speed of advancements to technological tools used to map our genome.

>>81370429
see >>81370192

>>81370284
>IQ is genetic

My IQ is higher than both my parents. My mother was mountain trash and my dad was a cokefiend.

>>81370305
He was talking about the sister you double retard.

>>81370429
a person's environment is part of their inheritance, breh. people aren't born in a vacuum.

nature vs nurture is an idiotic debate because nature tries to claim basically all of nurture as nature.