The Expanse Thread

Is Naomi finally off for good? I sure hope so, but I also don't want a ship full of men for the rest of the show. Qt shipmate when? >inb4 bobby gets in

Bookfags fuck off to >>>/lit/

>>81355121
Too bad she gets to keep Amos.

they need a sassy robot crewmate

>>81355071
Is the botanist a permanent crew member now?

What happens to Holden's gf?

Also I need a webm of Bobby running desu

I got to say that I thought that was the best episode of the expanse so far. Or do I just think that because I was drunk and stoned at the time.

And on another note, they actually found organic material in the asteroid belt. It's no protomolecule but you never know.

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-scientists-geology-ceres.html

>>81355288
I've thought that on at least another 4 episodes. I think the show is so good that this becomes a recurrent thought.

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>>81355233
Here you go anon.

>>81355268
Honestly, I think this is bullshit. It would take a looong time to slingshot though the moons without engines. Apollo took three days just to get to the Moon, and the Moon is 348e3 km from earth. while Ganymede is 1070e3 km from Jupiter, and the distances between the moons can vary to more than three times this distance. Having only 4 bodies (Ganymede, Callisto, Io and Europa) with enough mass to matter is an aggravating factor. It would make sense if they let the plot to allow Alex to use engines when in close proximity to them.

>>81355209
WAIT SO AMOS IS GONE FOR GOOD? funCJRIJGWBBGLKEJBRGKJBELKJBG what the fuck

>>81355970
There will probably be some scenes of them helping the evac, but they probably won't be in the ship. Unless something happens, which I don't think it will because of the length of the parting scene.

>>81355683
They know

http://www.danielabraham.com/2017/04/04/guest-post-losing-science-drama-finding-drama-science/

>>81355071
>all the scientists would have survived if they just locked the door again after throwing the grande

>>81356588
they keep an ubermonster in a glass tube, I dont think they're too bright

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Best girl.

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>>81356677

>>81355236
They really struggled to give him eyelines with the hologram VFX they put in afterwards. I guess they couldn't just put ping pong balls on strings for him to use as reference.

>>81356588
In some alternate universe they did. And the show ended like that.

Really boring universe that one.

>>81356878
and in another one they just covered the door and shot the retard who opened it

>>81355970
>he hasn't noticed that they've been flagging Amos dying ever since Tom Jane bit it

>>81357079
>killing off the only good character

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>>81357195

>lol they're just killing off the cis white men who cares

>>81355473
>can't catch a girl that thick while she running with stronger gravity than she's used to

Get it together, Earth

>>81357695
Those were other Martian marines, and I think the idea is she's spent more time actually moving around Earth in 1-G than they have. Like how the commissar guy was walking kind of awkwardly when they were going to the shuttle.

They should have been sitting down or something, though.

how far into book 2 are we? 25%?

>>81357822
OK, so she ran out of the Mars embassy or the Mars territory of the UN. Wouldn't they be the Martian guards that are normally stationed there? They would be better adjusted than her.

>>81357952
Superior thicc muscles, I guess.

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>>81355473
cringe 2bh

>>81355071
>Amos saves the day.

Like that isn't MOST days.

>>81355121
Don't worry. Clarissa will explain it all

>>81357952
I don't know if it counts for anything but that homeless guy last episode gave her a quick lesson on how to orient yourself and move on Earth. So I mean even if you have a fairly long rotation as a guard, trips back home and never leaving base may keep reinforcing bad habits that hold them back some. (Grasping at straws here)

Bobbie defecting was better than in the books where Avasarala just recruits her from some meeting

>Going after alien super soldier
>Let's ditch half our manpower, including the muscle

Fucking Naomi.

>>81359911
They didnt even take his shotgun, but really why the hell would they hunt it? Their ship is right there just shoot it with a missile.

>>81357079
>>81357217

>showfags don't know all the white men are going to be replaced by a diverse people of color™ crew who will fight evil white nazis

>>81356541
>insults GoT while admitting their fuckup

I like these showrunners a LOT more than DnD

She is helping the evacuation she didn't leave the crew

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>>81355071

>>81361428
KEK

>>81356541
>acknowledges they made an error
>apologizes for it

Does literally any other show even do this? We honestly don't deserve television of The Expanse's quality.

>>81356541
>http://www.danielabraham.com/2017/04/04/guest-post-losing-science-drama-finding-drama-science/


Gosh

they are so fucking great

I thought it was so weird watching it, I'm not a science guy but one thing I have felt and enjoyed about the expanse was how grounded in reality things were. Sure its still sci-fi but theres no instant teleporters or lazer cannons and shit.

As this scene was happening even in my peasent brain I knew it was way off mark and seemed like he should have taken ages to fly around literal planets when it took them at most a few hours to track down the daughter.

Props to them

This show is so good though.

>Incinerator looks like a fucking phaser

That was worse than the silliness of the slingshoting

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>>81361428

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She's actually more QT than I gave her credit for, and more thicc.
Still can't act for shit, though.

>>81362286
That guard looks like Martens's son, what the fuck

how did a fucking chaplain know about project caliban

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>>81362226
Will she be the next brown girl that gets COLONIZED by Jim?

>>81362324
>"Chaplain" who has literally said nothing about God and whose entire interest has been making sure Bobbie shuts the fuck up

Really makes your orbit slingshot.

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>>81361428

>>81356800

You should rewatch the episode where Miller shows the hologram of Eros being hit by the Nauvoo, you can tell Chad Coleman was about to laugh the whole time.

>>81361428

Oh you.

>>81362286
I bet his glasses project shitstorm of information in his eyes.

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>six feet tall
>boxer

>sweatingguy.jpg

>>81362488
dang she needs to get back to fighting weight

>>81362516
you mean back to being fat

>>81362363
*beanered, jim is a spic

>>81362534
whatever that pic is. thick is fine until it looks like they have pudding stuffed in their cheeks.

>>81362456
Probably watching Riverdale with his left eye, reading 4chan with his right

>>81362577

Conquistadored

>>81362577
He has an English father and an Italian mother.

>>81362597
I want to stuff her cheeks with pudding, if you know what I mean.

>>81362641
so he's an arab then?

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>>81362617
Made me laugh pretty hard, I give you that. Boy I love /tv/.

At this point the show diverged from the books far enough that it's safe to say I'm completely lost on where it's going.

>>81362828
Which is a good thing. They probably only have one more season to finish their story.

>>81355071
The scenes with Alex were pure kino

>>81362828
Glad I haven't read them, then. Couldn't watch "The Dome" after reading the book.
Can still manage GoT though I mourn all the good shit they cut out because they think women might not like it.

>>81362911
Yeah I'm already dreading Hollywood's next attempt to fuck up another Dune movie

>>81355236
>>81356800
>00:35
wtf
never noticed this before

>>81362888
Well it's unclear what they're cutting out and what direction they're going although they're getting the Avasarala/Bobbie stuff and fucking finally, but the way they get to the point is weirdly different from the books. Also, I wonder if they're going to do the Slow Zone incident or will just go on a tangent. Missing the Bull stuff would be a shame.

Anyone else thought last week was the season finale? I only saw ten episodes listed for this season on wikipedia then we got a new one this week. Now I'm hearing there's 2 more eps.

>>81362226
She kinda has a baby face

>>81363103

So does Amos

>>81363103
Overbite gives her less chin but also the appearance of fuller lips.

>>81355970
>>81356098
>>81357079
>amos and naomi leaving the ship when they are critical in like 3 different new conflicts\story arcs as big as the whole eros\protomolecule shit .
it is weird they're leaving now because they all left ganymede together but then again they raided the lab with mercenaries they hired on the spot and they got kidnapped by an earth black ops team at some point .

probably amos and naomi get kidnapped, holden alex and prax do some shit with the protomolecule dude and come back for them

>>81357695
>>81357822
>>81357952
>>81358015

She only ran like 50 yards, and had a 25 yard head start on the guards

y'all acting like this is a biathlon

>>81362652
>am i retarded then

It's a strong possibility anon.

>>81363286
>born in fucking Montana
>a place so white even the surroundings look bleached
>LEL IS HE A NIGGUR

This board is retarded mayne, what surprises you so?

>>81355683
You shouldn't forget that even their RCS is probably more powerful than our massive rocket engines.

It's still too fast, but still.

Maybe Amos and naomi leaving is bullshit set up that will be resolved next episode. misdirection

>>81363481
>leaving

They will be in the same goddamn rock.

>>81363052
they're making small changes that dont really matter to the future .
>real martens
nice guy that genuinely tries to help bobby deal what what she went through , while she is a lot less whiny then show bobbie but a lot more affected by the incident .
>show martens
asshole working for the mars dude trying to buy the protomolecule weapon

character never comes back after bobbie leaves earth so it doesn't matter .

also
>real bobbie
gets a job as an attache to avisarala without asking anyone martian and while still remaining technically a soldier , kind of convoluted desu. busts avisarala's assistant passing information to the earth admiral dude trying to buy the protomolecule stuff.
>show bobbie
beats information out of martens and defects to earth when her suspicions are confirmed .

both paths dont matter after she leaves earth and while the show misses some great scenes i think defection makes more sense then a soldier just deciding on his own to work for a politician of another government and remaining a soldier . i kinda wish they kept the parts where she got to know earth by walking around on normal earth streets and not fucking slums.

>>81362641
what about his other 4 mothers and 3 fathers ?

>>81356541
I'm honestly impressed that they even thought about this, most creators would have just responded with "it's a show, don't think about it to hard" when confronted by this, so fair play to them

>>81363528
You're preaching to the choir anon.

>avisarala
The fuck?

They mixed Thorsson and Martens into one singular character that's why in the show he's a Secret Service type guy. Right choice tebehe. I kinda wish they had Soren on the show, would have been fun watching her fuck his shit up.

>>81362679
>>81362695
Keep waiting for The protomolecule to disassemble them like in the book

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>>81363157

>>81355121
Not before her reason for saving the protomolecule is explained/revealed. I sure hope that is mentioned again.

>>81355683
all the moons he slingshot were relatively well aligned and roci on thrusters still has more deltav then anything we ever built (after it left the atmosphere) .even him coming very close to the small moons on the gravity assist makes sense .

what makes no sense in the expanse universe is him not being instantly detected when he got into visual range of that martian ship . the ships systems would detect him even beyond visual range automatically and instantly as they have active sensors running especially if they're in the jovian system and dont wanna run into stray rocks .also the way he kills almost all his forward momentum and goes into a retrograde orbit near instantly means he wasnt going that fast .

also i think you dont understand the timescales of the expanse . like the eros chase took place over many days but seems much faster in the show, i suspect the gravity assist was like a week or so or they fucked it up big time.

>>81361428
please post this in every expanse thread

>>81363548
he's talking about the actor

>>81362679
>>81362695

Hey anon are you from Israel?

>>81363715
I'm guessing in universe, as most ships have their drive running nearly all the time, standard sensors look for either a transponder signal (as civilian ships would keep those running all the time) or the drive plume, as that would be a very obvious marker of the ships location, plus you could analyse the plume to figure out what kind of ship it was. Using active sensors is probably avoided because if you're running silent it would give away your position and if you painted another warship that would probably be considered an escalation (equivalent to switching on targeting radar and painting another countries ships/planes with it today).

>>81363885
'painting' is the same as these days with war planes, focusing your radar on the enemy, im saying they were all running with active radar in all directions since the jovian system was under martian control and it was no secret . they were not trying to stay quiet they were patrolling to find ships trying to sneak through exactly like the roci did .
and yea transponders and plumes is how civilian ships are tracked but burning really far away and then quietly coasting in freefall until you're next to the enemy is a well known and widely used tactic in the expanse and the reason that any millitary ship that is not completely turned off and quiet has its active sensors on to detect sneaking ships.

i mean there's even the example of the 3 free navy ships ambushing the rocinante going from ceres to the ring because they were coasting to ceres with everything turned off and happened to come across them

>>81363993
All fair points, I'm not saying there's a perfect answer (the show staff themselves have even said the scene doesn't work), I'm just going with a "theoretically, it could work like this under the right circumstances"

>>81363993
>>81363715
>detect him even beyond visual range automatically
The Rocci was supposed to have no emissions in RF or the main drive. That was the whole point of the elaborate slingshot manuevor

> the way he kills almost all his forward momentum and goes into a retrograde orbit near instantly
With thrusters, yeah that was bullshit.

> also i think you dont understand the timescales of the expanse
>i suspect the gravity assist was like a week or so or they fucked it up big time.
Really? Because I'm pretty sure the crew on the ground weren't there for that long.

>>81363993
shit i got the spoiler wrong
the free navy ships ambushed the roci going from ceres to tycho not ceres to the ring , they later went from ceres tot he ring and were attacked by 2 fast ships that burned hard and overshot them to get to them fast.
>>81364081
the only way it would work is if the roci is still flagged as part of the martian navy in all their vessels which it is not since the martian navy is not fucking retarded as a rock at this point in the books . anyways that whole scene was either sped up a gorillion times or ridiculously inaccurate .

what actually happened after the lab (some of it might be next ep):they all went back to the somnambulist after the lab , got kidnapped by avisarala's black ops team, beat them up and escaped while there was another clusterfuck and the station was being bombed. went to some remote airlock to go outside while alex used the confusion of the clusterfuck to fly in while shooting off a couple of torpedoes and rescued them.

>>81364273
>The Rocci was supposed to have no emissions in RF or the main drive. That was the whole point of the elaborate slingshot manuevor
true but the LIDAR would have bounced off the hull just fine (especially that close) and the design of the ship is in the martian ship register . detecting an unexpected martian ship running quiet that close would have instantly alerted the crew.
you can do all sorts of sneaky stealth stuff in the expanse universe but never that close up and against a patrolling ship with active sensors on . roci isnt stealth coated and even with stealth coating it wouldnt do shit that close up.
>With thrusters, yeah that was bullshit.
yea , he killed all momentum in like 3 secs , even if he was going with that moon's direction of orbit (so it looked slow relative to the moon) that is way too slow to perform a gravity assist in less then a few months in the jovian system , either that or he performed a 100g maneuver which would have ripped him to pieces and maybe broken the ship.
>Really? Because I'm pretty sure the crew on the ground weren't there for that long.
yea that's why show timescale makes no sense . in the books they are there around a day and alex burns normally towards them when they ask for evac.

>>81361428
10/10

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>>81360029
Even the PDC's would be overkill. It might shrug off small arms fire because they just pokes tiny holes in its flesh but the PDC rounds look 20mm or bigger and they're moving much higher velocity - anything fleshy would just break apart under that kind of impact. Because it's protomolecule all the bits would still be alive for sure, but no longer ambulatory.

>>81362828
I feel like reading the books has sucked the enjoyment out of this show. It's way better than Dark Matter or Killjoys but I just can't get over somethings.

>>81363629
It better happen next episode.

>>81355473
Why is a Marine so fat?

>>81365273
>>81360029
its not actually hard to kill , these are demonstration prototypes , the moment they start 'regenerating health' they have bombs implanted inside them that blow them up . its how why the one bobby met exploded . they only need to shoot it a couple of times and run away .
also major spoiler : that specific one they can communicate , that one gets rid of its bomb, gets on the roci and plants a chunk of protomolecule on it that stays undetected until 2 books later.
(forgot to spoilertext this but i deleted the post)

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>>81362516
She's polynesian - her current weight as seen on the show is probably as thin as she can get currently. The >>81362488 pic is from when she was 20ish about 5 years ago.

She's not a boxer either - she trained for a bit for the NZ 'Fight for Life' charity in 2014 - she lost her bout to a smaller but much fitter woman. She did tweet a lot about hitting the gym for The Expanse last year.

>>81362286
K... Keep me posted

>>81361428
b-but i made that webm to wreck you when you post your pasta, not for you to use it in place of the pasta

>>81361428
brava, anon, brava

>>81355071
>your generation don't understand sacrifice
>gets punched 3 times and gives up information vital to mars
what a lil bitch

>>81356677
roci is best girl and alexXroci is OTP

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>>81366006
You can't stop the pasta. You've just made an animated version.

>>81355121
Naomi's not going anywhere you dumbfuck.

>plot a trajectory using only RCS thrusters that takes me around the entier solar system
i thought this show was supposed to have realistic physics, that shit would take 10 years of flight.

>>81366075
its only the Jovian system.

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Will he catch the blue former human, that survives the cold and is an enemy to all factions, outside human boundaries?

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>>81366311

I liked the last two episodes if only for Sargeant Draper. I enjoy watching all this Earth-Mars interaction. Also Alex talking to himself was interesting. I wonder if that's going to become a thing or of that was just a joke about him being alone on the ship so much.

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>tfw no belter qt

>>81355071
>GRENADE
>throws grenade back
>GRENADE
kek'd pretty hard at this tbqh

>>81367169
lol wut

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>>81363715
>all the moons he slingshot were relatively well aligned
That is Jupiter in the center. The trajectory he made is many times the circumference of Ganymede and would take many months, as they already admitted here >>81356541.

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>>81361467
>We honestly don't deserve television of The Expanse's quality
I like to believe we do.

>>81366006
>>81366067
Pastafag here.

Love the webm. I'm touched. Appreciate your help in spreading the good word. Couldn't have done it without you buddy.

See you in the future threads.

>>81356541
>>81361467
>>81363555
Do they ever admit their other fuckups?

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>>81366006
You fucking nerds are so cringe. Kys. This show blows

>>81356098
Nah, there's gonna be some romantic/sexual tension subplot happening for sure.

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>>81361428

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I like this show a whole lot, but some of these scenes are kinda dumb. Not even getting the science wrong dumb. Just plain old dumb.

Like take this guy. The way he sprayed bullets in their general direction should have killed half the crew. It would have been better if he went down without getting a shot off and then having Amos get shot by the bitch doctor lady.

They did the same thing a couple episodes ago too when they saved that lady from those thugs on the freighter with how Holden and Amos just walked in front of all their bullets.

Also, why didn't they have a guard outside their little base, or at least some sort of detection device. Talk about getting caught with your pants down.

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>its a more than 5 belters in 1 room episode

>>81368665
Han shot first.

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>>81355071
Best part in the series since Eros went down.

>mfw those sounds on the other side of the door

Holy shit, I fucking love Amos. This nigga gets shit done.

>>81358365
>last episode gave her a quick lesson on how to orient yourself and move on Earth.

I didn't understand that since MARS ALSO HAS A SKY, WIDE OPEN SPACES, AND A FUCKING HORIZON THAT GOES ON "FOREVER".

It is only increased gravity. That wouldn't have an effect on mental comprehension of it. Even your inner ear doesn't have problems with increased gravity. It only has a problem at first with 0 gravity.

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>>81361428
God damn it, it is this shit that has caused me to waste 13 fucking years on 4chan.

>10 Internets have been deposited in your account

>>81368975
It's primarily a mental problem not a physical one, Martian's essentially have agoraphopia

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>>81367251
Lyudmila Titchenkova

>>81356541
The main problem I have with it is that they could still have used the exact same footage and passing yet merely changed some text and dialog to make us think that each scene was a long long time from the previous scene. They sorta did that already with the pilot just sitting on his ass playing with beer cans.

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>>81368864
That scene was fucking comedy gold. I almost shit my pants for a second because I thought he was about to dive on top of the grenade and sacrifice himself. But nope, he just chucks it back at them and a shitstorm of tf2-tier sound effects ensues.
Based Amos.

>>81369047
That doesn't make sense though. Belters should have that, but not martians.

>>81369147
most martians live in domes and corridors

>>81369147
They live in domes and tunnels there entire life though, they don't really go outside at all

>>81369173
>>81369183
They are all trained as military and she was career military. She probably spent more time in a vac suit than out of one as a child.

>>81369217
Living in a vac suit could still result in agoraphobia. Being outside in a protected suit is not the same as being outside exposed. Martian Marines probably feel naked most of the time they spend stationed on Earth.

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>>81367169

>>81369005
You can literally see when his heart breaks.

>>81369057
>Want to know the real worst thing about being tall?
>Always getting put in the back of pictures

>>81369057
>Is a giant
>Last name is titch
>what did she mean by this?

>>81369307
I'm not buying it. They play it up too much in the show.

>>81369307
Now that I think of it, if I was never exposed to such large spaces without being in a suit I might get short of breath walking around in the open on Earth when I have those moments of awareness that I'm not wearing my suit. Their minds might be too used to the concept of large open spaces without suit = death.

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>>81369902
>>81369307
Ever been scuba diving in the ocean before? Pretty wildly fucking alien isn't it? Like 0.0001% of people, who try it, have mental trouble with that. Everyone it doesn't even phase them.

Stop thinking that humans are dainty snowflakes.

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>>81370055
>some people might have X problem
>YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG BECAUSE ONLY SOME PEOPLE HAVE X PROBLEM, NOT ALL OF THEM!
I'm not in the mood for your shit right now, anon.

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>''a whole generation has forgot what it means to sacrifice for the dream of mars''
>gets punched a few times
>forgets what it means to sacrifice for the dream of mars

yeah ok

>>81370261
Why would he die just to stop a dead person walking from knowing how her squad died? She would just be killed by firing squad either way.

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Why did Expanse threw away the space realism in the 2nd season?

CQB was the best fucking shit I've seen, but Alex zooming past at 0.9 C to get to Ganymede or wherever the fuck they went was dumb as fuck.

>>81370307
yeah because she's real dead right now isn't she

>>81370316
Why aren't you mentioning the fucked up scale? We see the Rocinante pass behind a spherical moon and it's still visible to the camera.

>>81370411
>Why aren't you mentioning the fucked up scale?
Oh you mean the fucked up scale in the screencap I posted to show fucked up scale?

>>81370385
You are missing the point, dude.

>>81370316
>>81370411
they fucking addressed this earlier in the thread. they know it's bullshit but they did it on purpose to keep the story linear. the maneuver would take like a month and the gang wasnt on the rock that long. they have to sacrifice some realism for the sake of good tv

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>>81363643

>>81370493
And yet CQB battle managed to be fucking awesome and exciting despite being cut in like 4 pieces.

It's called lazy writing.

>>81370432
No, like I said, I was referring to when the Rocinante was seen passing behind a moon.

>>81370493
>>81370542
I'm fearful that "lazy" or rushed writing will reduce the realism in this show. When you are on a tight schedule and need an episode done now it's very easy to use the audience's ignorance as an excuse to not sweat over the details.
>hey wait, I was just thinking, the way this scene was propossed doesn't make sense, the times and distances are all wrong, moons aren't that small, and that's not how newton's laws work
>who gives a shit, it's just a TV show, I want to get home to my wife and kids, just send the script down the line

>>81370316

Lul, Ganymede is like 5 times closer to Jupiter than it should be and you're just now realizing realism was thrown out of the airlock?

>>81368665

>Next time, knock.

t.Baldy

>>81361428
there is no image to express what i feel right now.
i love you anon

>>81370493
Admitting it's wrong doesn't make it right.

>>81371317
They also said there will be a gravity slingshot in season 3 that will be more realistic. If they do that better I'll forgive the fuck up now, and if they don't fuck them.

>>81367204
>The horrified looks they give each other when they hear the grenade unleash an unspeakable horror
Better comedy than most of tv tbqh.

>>81367625
t. chickenman

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>>81371163
Can confirm.

>>81356588
If you were handling a 4-second grenade for the first time (yes, I counted, it was 4 seconds), you probably wouldn't be thinking very straight either.

>>81370158
Stop being a fucking retard, towelhead.

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>>81370493
>apologizing for bad writing they intended to make bad from the beginning

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>>81372028
>get called out
>Y-YOU'RE RETARDED!
You are likely just posting for posting's sake but it nonetheless comes off as pathetic damage control.

>>81372074
Why would that be bad if they did that?

>>81372171
It was a legit discussion point and anon here >>81370158 can't even rebuttal without turning into a child.

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>>81370158
Dude, you're a fucking retard, retard. lol

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>>81372201
>why would it be bad if they have bad writing on the show

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>>81370055
>>81370158
Only no one has orientation problems in scuba gear, under normal conditions. Some have a fear of water, but a fear of enclosed spaces or a fear of wide open spaces wouldn't make you walk all fucking funny like Bobby was doing.

It is shit writing and even worse acting.

>>81372210
You literally said what they said and then acted like you were correcting them because you like smelling your own farts. The fact that you are remaining pissy about this is hard to justify.

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Why is this show so fucking terrible but so fucking loved by /tv/tards? Is it that normies think it is "sciencey" and it makes them feel smarter?

>>81372267
I jack off to hard science fiction too but you are being dense at this point by failing to acknowledge other pressures while writing a television show. Never respond to me or my wife's son again.

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>>81372335
I see the problem here.

You have no reading comprehension.

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>>81372368
>being this insecure
Not everyone bases their interests around making you feel stupid, anon.

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>>81372374
>hard science fiction

No such thing. There's just "bad science in fiction" and "worse science in fiction" There's literally nothing else, kid.

I was keeping track of everything they cut or changed in order to speed things up but honestly by now it's difficult to tell when will what happen.

Showfags, don't you fucking dare read this spoiler, it's not a mild one:

They're getting into the protomolecule tinkering Mars faction already while covering book 2 material. They even revealed Filip already. At this breakneck pace, is Earth fucked as early as season 3?

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>>81372411
Did I hit a nerve?

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>>81372449
>They're getting into the protomolecule tinkering Mars faction already while covering book 2 material. They even revealed Filip already. At this breakneck pace, is Earth fucked as early as season 3?

Did you not watch the last episode?

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>>81372405
>two anons point out SOME PEOPLE might have agoraphobia
>you agree that SOME PEOPLE might have agoraphobia, but then act like the other two anons were saying that EVERYONE must have agoraphobia because calling other people wrong makes you feel smart
>get called out
>spam petty insults ad infinitum
Usually trolling is less respectable than making stupid mistakes, but at this point presuming you are trolling is more respectable than the possibility you are really this stupid and prone to shitposting the moment someone points out a minor error on your part.

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>>81368975
This. You people are acting like humans are fucking retards under any type of change at all. Ever go on a tour of a cave? Did you wobble all over and get sick because you couldn't orient yourself? Did you ever go to the country side or city and have the same problem?

Here you have a spess marine who is the top of her class, highly trained, can't fight for shit, can't follow a single order for shit, MUH MARS, hell she can't even walk for shit. She's been in dozens of different environments without problems. But, she's been written to be a fucking moron like all martian shitskins are morons so she can't walk on Earth even after having hours of 1g training.

>but but but

No, it is shit.

>>81372488

All of this was from the last episode, what's up with you.

>>81372570
The point is that agoraphobia or any phobia doesn't affect your motor skills in the manner they were showing. It was poorly written and acted that is all. You can't tell me a highly trained marine has those sorts of issues. Did they role dice to determine rank?

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>>81372617
That fact that you spoilered what everyone already knows like you'd not seen the last episode.

>>81370434

He's really not missing the point. Spoken as a bookfag here, Bobbie is not an irrelevant character. Her involvement with Avasarala is different in the books, but the show's version is even more dangerous to Mars, or at least the part of Mars this dude represents. Which he doesn't in the books, but alright, nevermind that.

He really didn't do all in his power to stop her.He should have.. The only plausible explanation is that he assumes Avasarala knows already.

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>>81372368
This.

There's no science in this show. It is just popsci terms and garbage. Now they are openly making it even more popsci garbage:

http://www.danielabraham.com/2017/04/04/guest-post-losing-science-drama-finding-drama-science/

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>>81372713
>bookfag

Book shit doesn't matter, this is a TV show. Reading the source material for any video entertainment has never been a prerequisite. All the content you are meant to know is contained within the tv show/movie. If they left shit out, it is "bad writing/editing". Never ever ever compare books to video entertainment. There's no point at all.

>>81372661

Maybe if you read my post properly, you would have spoilered my quote.

Not everyone knows that:

It is merely a faction within Mars government/military that wants to deal with the protomolecule, not Mars as a whole.

Not everyone knows that Earth gets fucked. If you're a showfag trying to be snide, I hope you read this and have it ruined for you like you may have ruined for people by failing at reading comprehension and not spoilering when you quoted me.

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>>81355121
ikr why do they keep showing all these fucking shitskins? this muslim tv programming?

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>>81372759
>It is merely a faction within Mars government/military that wants to deal with the protomolecule, not Mars as a whole.

>Not everyone knows that Earth gets fucked. If you're a showfag trying to be snide, I hope you read this and have it ruined for you like you may have ruined for people by failing at reading comprehension and not spoilering when you quoted me.

That's retarded. You obviously didn't watch the last episode nor have ever lurked these threads.

>>81372746
You sound a bit too eager to push a point which has nothing to do with what I said. Kinda dense of you.

A bookfag can assume where the show's version of Bobbie's story is going because a bookfag has foreknowledge of things which will happen in the show. Unless of course, the show decides to completely change everything which it clearly has no intention of doing. What the fuck are you even trying to say.

>>81372713
The obvious implication of my original post was that that he might not have believed she could make it out of the Martian embassy. There was a guard outside. She was already dead. Letting his friend's daughter know why her comrades died was the least he could do, especially when she was threatening to beat him to death.

>>81372838

He's kinda dumb then, isn't he. She walked right out and all she had to do is bust one head open.

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>>81372816
>bookfag has foreknowledge of things which will happen in the show.

This is a TV show, nothing is fixed and it certainly will not happen like it did in the books. They've already changed shit. You have to 5 years old to think otherwise.

>>81372810

So you mean to tell me that showfags have worked out on their own that Earth gets destroyed in this story to the point that it's commonly accepted knowledge? Well, count me impressed.

>>81372854
>>81372838
>fiction gets military and strategies correct

There's like 100 things wrong with that embassy and all the scenes invovled. Pretty much like some high school students decided to make a play about the white house, but had never seen nor been to it and just make shit up. That's extremely common in pretty much all movies and tv shows that involve any type of military/police force/trained people of any kind.

>>81372854
There is a guard outside, there are guards throughout the building, there are guards at the door. They are well armed and highly trained. Even if she fights her way out of the room they can just radio ahead and fucking kill her. You presume too much expecting a man with a concussion being able to take into account every eventuality. She should have been caught. She got lucky. It wasn't bad writing.

You have the privileged position of hindsight.

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>>81372921
>he hasn't lurked these threads before

Also, did you read all the books out yet? Because you don't seem like you have.

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>>81372972
>They are well armed and highly trained.

No they are not. They are new recruits who haven't even been to the bathroom yet let alone been trained. that is obvious by how things went down. Did we watch the same tv show?

>>81372880

What they made a key part of Bobbie's story is her knowledge of a faction within Mars working with the protomolecule. Bookfags know where this is leading to and know how important it is. It makes no sense for this dude to spill it out and let Avasarala know about the protomolecule goblin and that Mars is working to obtain it. Unless she knows everything there is to know about it as well as who is interested in it. Which if she did, she would have no use for Bobbie. A bookfag absolutely can tell you that this is not just a side story for shits and giggles.

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>>81362488
>he likes the Whirlpool 42 inch model.

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>>81373061
>What they made a key part of Bobbie's story is her knowledge of a faction within Mars working with the protomolecule. Bookfags know where this is leading to and know how important it is. It makes no sense for this dude to spill it out and let Avasarala know about the protomolecule goblin and that Mars is working to obtain it. Unless she knows everything there is to know about it as well as who is interested in it. Which if she did, she would have no use for Bobbie. A bookfag absolutely can tell you that this is not just a side story for shits and giggles.

Now you're just making shit up because you didn't actually read the books.

>>81372976

At this point, you're merely telling me that bookfags don't use spoiler tags in these threads which I don't give a fuck about. You faggots lack common courtesy (even if showfags lack common sense in reading these threads).

So you should have rephrased your post to "You can't spoil anybody in here, everybody read the books" in which case we wouldn't be having this conversation.

>>81355473
Is this real? Did those guards have to take shits really bad? Is that why they can't catch the waddling duck?

>>81372998
>They are new recruits who haven't even been to the bathroom yet let alone been trained.
Well why didn't you tell him that? He's not the chief of security.

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>>81373105
Where's your handler?

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>>81373127
>>81372998
>>81373119
Marians wear diapers. She wasn't wearing her diaper when she outran them.

This is legit bookfag speaking.

>>81373093

And now I realize you were just 10/10ing me all along. I mean ok, credit where credit is due, I just don't understand why this kind of behavior is amusing to you.

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>>81373181
Bobbie Diaper.

>>81370316
>jupiter and all its great moons right next to each other
that's some star wars level scaling

>>81373383
at least nothing is swallowing suns

>>81373181
Why would increased gravity affect one's bottom anal butt sphincter?

>>81373383
>>81370316
>>81370411
>>81371163
>>81371957
This is why I can't watch this bullshit and enjoy it.

>>81373383
Let's not be rash.

>>81373452
You tell me what amazing show you are watching right now that cares more about realism.

R•E•M•I•N•D•E•R

The writer's strike is gonna fuck up this show.

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>>81373495
Science fiction is the worst genre, sempai. They can make up all the bullshit they want but still some how drop the ball on anything that happens to be real.

>>81372321
>I'm an expert on what life will be like for people who live there entire lives 400 years in the future on another planet
Sure thing famalam

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>No shirtless Holden

HERESY

>>81373454
you're right, at least TFA has the justification that a system with planets within visible range of each other actually exists.

>>81373648
KING IN DA BELT

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>>81373629
>i have no common sense

I guess you would be a puking stumbler.

>>81373658
>>81370316
The entire time I watch that shit, which is no longer because I'm not watching that shit anymore, I constant think of the Roche limit.

>>81373713
>I think my own opinions are common sense because the fear of being wrong terrifies me

In your anger at this episode's inaccuracies, why haven't you considered all other failings of the show?

Areas described to have much lower gravity than earth are clearly filmed and appear to be in 1G without attempts to hide it. Or the lack of facial contortions in 15G maneuvers? The creators of the show are aware of this as they are aware of the fuck up in this episode. What's the difference?

The garish and impractical "sci fi" interfaces of all computers in the show that look and behave like Winamp skins?

Muh sound in space XD

Why do you suddenly care about this one issue? Perhaps you didn't actually catch it yourself but read about it online and now you're trying to act smart here?

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>science in The Expanse

Like how Ceres would break apart if you tried spinning it up to 0.3g without encasing it in some sort of support or how the heat from 1.5 million people in Eros would kill everyone off without massive amounts of external cooling modules?

>>81373658
Stop being fucking retarded. That's not even the main problem with TFA and Abrams disdain for movies.

>>81373820
We can only talk about so many things at once.

>winamp skins

mighty kek

>>81373820

It really whips the lamma's ass.

>>81373573
Why are you bitching about science fiction then instead of fantasy? You are like a feminist bitching about an imagined wage gap when women in other countries are having their faces burned off with acid for the sin of being raped.

They are doing ok at least they remember the magboots and space suits once in a while or to take a moment to show something like the stealth ship floating off into space

>>81373967
>>>/pol/

Why is it that when the show is airing the thread barely makes 50 posts, yet 3 days later there's threads with 300 posts in them? Why don't any of you fuckers watch it live with the rest of us?

>>81363528
>beats information out of martens and defects to earth when her suspicions are confirmed
Makes a job in MMC Veterans' Outreach a bit less likely

>>81373857

It's fucking pointless debating this. The writers themselves have outright told you that the "science" is only there for flavor in order to immerse you into the world. Of course a physicist won't be equally immersed as someone not in the know. The problem is that everyone on 4chan is a physicist. That they choose to spend their time shitposting online is no indication that the above statement is anything less than fact, why, surely it is their prerogative as intellectuals to jack off to as many animes as they want while shitposting garbage. Do they sound like 15 year olds parroting second hand knowledge because being a smartass online is more important than enjoying a tv show? No, you're imagining it.

>>81372368
What's your favourite TV show airing right now anon?

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>>81374071
I literally pirate it off thepiratebay.org the next day. I don't even care if you can watch it on their website.

>>81374145
reeeee fuck that guy

>>81374145

That said, english subtitles are often oddly lacking for higher quality rips of this show.

>>81373785
>which is no longer
too bad, you missed one of the coolest orbital maneuvers from Alex
>coming around moon
>aw shit a martian ship is also coming around from the opposite side
>I'll just put the spaceship in reverse and go back behind the horizon

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>>81374107
If we don't raise hell about it we will never get a pure physics movie with 100% real physics. Even the fucking Japanese are ahead of us.

>>81374107
You must be great fun at all the parties you don't get invited to

>>81374036
>pretending to not know how analogies work
Why though?

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>>81374190
I didn't miss it, it made me drop the show.

>>81374174
gud job dey all speek english den innit beltalowda

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>>81374310
>i'm not /pol/ really i'm not

pic4u

>>81374174
Are you deaf? I've never seen subtitles in this show.

>>81373820
It's not hard to position Jupiter's moons correctly, there's no practical reason to put them so close to the planet. It was a mistake and I'll believe that for now, but they'd better try harder in the future.

>>81374305

I'm fucking great and parties.

>>81374272

I'm sure there was one somewhere. And even if you get a new one, you'll find ways to nitpick about it, I'm sure.

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>>81374272
>Even the fucking Japanese are ahead of us.
Prove it.

>>81374350

Maybe you forgot to download them?

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>>81374406
>but they'd better try harder in the future

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>>81374350
>deflecting this hard for no fucking reason

>>81374444
>I'm fucking great and parties.
But not great at sentencing apparently

>>81373820
>are clearly filmed and appear to be in 1G without attempts to hide it
because it's pretty much impossible to do it any other way
>Or the lack of facial contortions in 15G maneuvers?
why would their face contort? they're not experiencing air resistance on a space ship

>>81374539
not very good at posting, correct. I had a whole autistic explanation over how I'm able to control my autism (in situations such as parties) but then I realized I need to control my autism and cut off most of the post.

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>>81374619
>autistic
That actually explains a hell of a lot

>>81374615
>why would their face contort?

Because it's being pulled in one direction fifteen times harder than normal.

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I want to ride in one these now.

Every source I've read says that humans cant hold their breath in a vacuum. Is that true?

You can close your mouth pretty tight but that wouldn't keep air from rushing through your nose and tearing sensitive olfactory tissue apart. Your epiglottis can close but it looks like its better at keeping air from rushing in and useless at keeping air rushing out.

>>81374145

rarbg has them ~30minutes after the show is done airing

>>81374498
I'll stop pirating their show if they don't.

>>81374615
Here's 9g with no air resistance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYP5hb789gM

>>81375748
They couldn't hold their breath, but the body could survive for a short amount of time in a complete vacuum.

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>>81362679
>>81362695
>future humans can't land probes on Venus and keep them working longer than a few seconds.
>Real life Russians from the 1960s-1980s landed probes that worked from 23mins to 2 hours.

Exactly what i'd expect from '''''''''''''''''''''''''SyFy'''''''''''''''''''''''''

>>81374468
Check the image that was posted.

>>81374532
gb2/b/, cartoon manchild

>>81376322
American probes. Nuff' said.

>>81355121
>Discussing genre fiction on /lit/

Try it I dare you

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>>81376322
It is as bad as watching europoors trying to land shit on Mars IRL.

>>81376404
99% of /li/ is genre fiction, they just don't know what "genre fiction" means. They think it is only the most used examples and nothing else.

>>81376503
"Crushable structure"

Aahahahahahahahahahahaha you mean their entire probe?

>>81376348
I don't see how a couple of science for dummies books is evidence of anything. Aren't we talking about television?

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>>81376666
kek

They miscalculated the landing distance so it released too high.

>>81376773
No, the Japs have manga like that already and we have nothing at all.

Cringe incoming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd5zxfz0sOQ

>>81376322
>character LITERALLY SAYS that the atmosphere around the crash site is far more corrosive than expected
>"hurr durr why are their probes dying"

Do you people even watch the show? For every legitimate complaint about dumb orbital mechanics there's 5 people asking about things explained directly in dialogue.

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>>81376925
>proto-corrosives

BWHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

*unzips dick*

BWHAHAHAHHA!!!!!

>>81376322
They said venus atmosphere was unusually corrosive at impact point. You could at least watch the show you are going to shitpost about.

>>81368975
They even mentioned marines train at 1g in preparation for fighting on earth.
I have no idea why they did a 180 on that

>>81376913
Those are made for the expressed purpose of teaching readers though. I'd wouldn't compare them with DC or Marvel comics for following physical laws, let alone a live action science fiction series meant for entertainment.

>>81376925
Not to mention the protomolecule feeding off energy. It could've easily sipped the probe's batteries dry in seconds; it grew fucking huge on Venus.

>>81377019
>>81376925
That's because it isn't very corrosive on Venus' surface. Instead the sulfuric acid is far above it where the atmosphere is less dense. They basically were saying in the show that there's sulfuric acid clouds on the surface now instead of at high altitude.

Which wouldn't corrode things as fast as it was doing so in that scene. In fact, you could just dip the entire probe in pure sulfuric acid and it would be fine for much longer than they showed.

>>81377041
We want a show that is 100% correct science (as known to date). There's nothing like that and most likely never will be. Stuff like that manga is as close as you are going to get.

even /sci/ says it is popsci garbage: >>>/sci/8794047

>>81361428
S P I C Y
P
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C
Y

>>81374071
not all of us are burgers or leafs

>>81377129
Wait for the Mars Trilogy series.

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I can't believe they got away with a pizzagate reference.

>>81377129
>We want a show that is 100% correct science
Not even the source material for The Expanse is close to 100%.
I think the most accurate series of books is the Mars series

>>81377257
>>81377280
The Mars series real problem these days is the science becoming out of date as we start studying Mars closer

>>81357129
>>81357149
poettyr

>>81369057
Stephen Merchant has met his match!

>>81377310
True in theory, but anything specific you are aware of?

>>81377129
>you could just dip the entire probe in pure sulfuric acid and it would be fine for much longer than they showed
Temp & pressure on Venus are pretty extreme, though. Even without ayylmao fuckery

>show topographical map of Venus
>there is a crater thousands of miles across gouged out where Eros hit
>land a probe
>the crater is barely 500 meters across
How can this show demonstrate so much thought and then a moment later completely fuck up all notion of scale? I get speeding up journey times to speed the plot along, but why fuck up the crater so bad?

>>81377365
Not anything off the top of my head, I do remember reading something (possibly to do with the ice caps - I'd have to check) that would cause problems for some of the early terraforming strategies

>>81355121
>“Bobbie nodded. She’d noticed it too. Some men had a large-woman fetish, and Bobbie had gotten the hair-raising sense that he might be a member of that tribe. They tended to have unresolved mommy issues, so she generally steered clear.”
>Excerpt From: Corey, James S. A. “Caliban's War: Book Two of the Expanse series"
Book does such a good of predicting /tv and its love of THICC

>>81377676
Wait... do I have mommy issues?

>>81377676
More cringey than George R.R. Martin.

>>81374071
>Live
Even this oldfag skips the commercials.
Netflix, buy this already

Who's got the more gormless face, Jon or Bobbi?

>>81377676
lol mommy issues, what bullshit.