13 Teasons why

>>81346013
RAPE IS NEVER EVER A WOMAN'S FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>81346041
This. Fuck off OP, you're part of the problem.

I'm so angry that I can't even talk about this stupid show.

>>81346094
Dude rape culture LMAO

Can someone greentext this show for me? Too lazy and uninterested to watch

>>81346013
It's never an attractive white woman's fault.

Here's 13 reasons why.

I feel sorry for anyone who's trying to fuck a white bitch that has watched this show or read the book.

>>81346201
It's basically
>girl kills self
>mc gets tapes after the girls death that name people as the "13 reasons" she killed herself
>it's everyone's fault but hers

>>81346415
That sounds preachy and gay. Thanks for taking the bullet.

>>81346415
I think the show paints some of the fault as hers. Except for Bryce and Jeff, all the kids are pretty much gray, including Clay.

>>81346013
obviously. garbage content made for teenage girls.

>>81346207
>It's never an attractive white woman's fault.
It's never the woman's fault
FTFY

>>81346041
I unironically don't understand this.Someone who leaves all their valuable shit up for grabs on their lawn would be called stupid for not taking better care of their stuff, but stripping naked around a bunch of people you hardly know at a party is supposed to be acceptable?

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>>81346041
>>81346094
go back

>>81346589
Think about. What kind of mentally fucked in the head do you have to be to get your dick and just fuck someone when they clearly don't want it.

>>81346565
Nah nigga you can rape an ugly bitch all you want.

I'm really happy they showed the suicide scene
it'll help people actually go through with it

>>81346589
i think we all understand ways that women increase their likelihood of getting raped by putting themselves in bad positions. only a rapist crosses the line and causes rape though.

its just a really difficult situation because we all know the weakness and naiveté of young women who sometimes unknowingly do ridiculous things

>>81346670
>clearly
interesting word choice

>>81346665
I think I'll remember this forever.

Young lads, that was some amazing shit when we first saw it. One of the moments that made the internet what it is.

When you watch a show about a girl who faces a whole bunch of problems and it receives critical and audience acclaim, maybe there's some accuracy to its portrayal.
Maybe, as a male, you could take a look at what girls all over the world are saying about these issues and understand that your perspective is unintentionally biased and open your mind a little bit.
Maybe you should also avoid sympathizing with and justifying the actions of an actual rapist until you're confident that you genuinely understand the perspective of the girl in question.
Honestly we're all here for the laffs and the memes but it's just a little worrying when people can watch either of the rape scenes in this show and still believe that the women were at fault

>>81346013
okay what exactly did she say on Prisoners kid's tape? From what i understand the situation was basically
>turn down nice kid she "actually cares about"
>witness rapist raping her friend
>get drunk and have sex with rapist
>feel raped
>nice kid she "actually cares about" comes over, asks what's wrong
>repeatedly screams at him to get the fuck out
>he eventually leaves despite putting in an honest effort to help her
>tape says "why did you leave??? it's your fault!!!"

Am I missing something here?

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Look at this fucking tank
she should be so lucky to get a chad

>>81346763
Why am I always being told to do this?! Why isn't anyone told to look at things from MY perspective?!

>>81346791
>>get drunk and have sex with rapist

clearly didn't watch

>>81346763
What about the second rape scene, when she knowingly goes to the party hosted by a guy she literally witnessed raping another girl, and gets drunk with this rapist?

>>81346834
Yeah, i didn't. This is what i gathered from confusing accounts of how the show played out. I can't be bothered to watch trash like this. What actually went down?

>>81346839
He got in the pool then she tried to leave, and then he raped her. Were we not watching the same show?

>>81346839
Apparently there is no amount of irresponsible action that warrants any kind of criticism from someone who is raped.

If you go to the zoo, jump over the fence, and stick your hand in a crocodiles mouth, it is ultimately the croc's fault for biting your arm off.

>>81346763
>getting raped by someone you saw raping someone else.


At what point does personal responsibility come into play? Never?

The audacity of this cunt to go around blaming everyone in her life for failing her. I hated this show so fucking much.

>>81346763
women should harden the fuck up

>>81346763
Why are roasties so dumb?

>>81346925
why was she even there?She knew he was a rapist and wasnt even invited

>>81346013
>making money out of normalizing teen suicide
I want off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride

>>81346763
The show is literally all about a character blaming numerous other people for her suicide, which is straight up abusive shit. Sure, yeah, she can reasonably blame the rapist, but what about the main guy whose only sin was literally leaving when she screamed at him to? And then she says some creepy shit like "You could have tried to save me!" What the fuck?

>>81347002
Yeah she was fucking retarded, still rape tho.

>>81346013
Could you imagine this show being done around an ugly, short, non-white guy? or even a real ugly girl for that matter. Pizza face LaShawna would never be the main character of this. Would never happen desu

>>81347002
teenagers are stupid and do stupid things all the time. some of these things affect women worse than men, like having sex or getting raped.

>>81347057
So the rapist should be punished and go to prison. Great, that's resolved. Now why should we sympathize with or care that this thot killed herself?

>>81346839
>Just had an awful day where you accidentally lost hundreds of dollars in a way that is unfortunate but entirely normal
>Just because someone hosts a party doesn't mean you're definitely going to interact with them- she stayed far away from him until he approached her once she was alone and got into the hot tub without her noticing
>She clearly wasn't drunk even though that's irrelevant anyway
>She tries to get away, literally dragging herself out of the hot tub before being grabbed hard enough to leave bruises and pulled back in
>If you need an explicit "no" to see that she was very uncomfortable and not consenting you may genuinely have some kind of empathy disorder like Asperger's
>Half the point of the show was about explicit consent
>Clay always asked "is this okay?" before doing anything sexual
>Bryce coerced and forced his way into sex
>Clay good, Bryce bad
>Consent good, helps to avoid rape and suicide
>No consent bad, leads to rape and suicide

It's not hard

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The term half of you are looking for is "unsympathetic victim".

>>81347093
Someone like that would never pull the dramatic narcissistic shit the main character did. Their narrative would just be
>Get bullied
>Get ignored
>Single mom doesn't give a shit
>Finally reach some arbitrary snapping point
>Promptly hang self in closet with no fanfare
>Drunk single mom finds them rotting there next morning
>Maybe gets an "RIP" facebook account and a school assembly where normies who never gave a shit can performatively mourn

Not a great narrative for the Netflix crowd

>>81347127
because wymyn love feeling sad for other wymyn and love furthering their nanny state agenda

>>81346937
When you are in a city you're not familiar with and you wander into a bad neighborhood and get mugged, next time you should find out where the bad streets are and not go down them.

When you leave your keys in the ignition of your unlocked car and it gets stolen, maybe you should remember to bring your keys inside and lock your car.

When your wallet keeps falling out of your pocket, maybe start putting it in a different pocket.

When you get raped, BLAH BLHAB LAH BLAH BLAH VICTIM BLAMING VICTIM BLAMING

The only crime where legitimate preventative actions are completely drowned out and the person suggesting them is labeled a piece of shit victim shamer.

>>81347174
If Clay good, why does he get blamed for her suicide?

>>81347182
No I think I was on the mark with stupid cunt.

>>81347227
Surprise, it's still the fucking rapist's fault

>>81347241
She even says on the tape that he doesn't actually deserve to be on the tapes

>>81347241
Clay's tape wasn't about blaming him, it was about what could have been different. The show is about what can be done to help prevent suicide. Communication is a big part of that. Because of this show, there might be someone out there like Hannah who decides to talk to someone like Clay instead of just pushing them away.

>>81347174
>Just had an awful day where you accidentally lost hundreds of dollars
>decide to go to a party hosted by someone you factually know is a rapist
>get drunk and naked in said rapist's house
>expect him not to do anything bad
This is wrong in so many levels.

If you go to Bill Clinton's house, you can expect people like Bill Clinton to be there, and if you dislike Bill, or he wronged someone and you have seen it happen before your eyes, you probably should not be there.
Switch Bill Clinton with Bryce and tell me it doesn't make sense.

There's another layer here, say we know Bill Clinton is an opportunistic motherfucker, and a skilled scammer at that, to top it all, impulsive. Are you really going to get drunk in front of him and put your wallet on the table?
Let's switch it up a bit, change Bill for Bryce, scam for rape, and 'put wallet on the table' to 'get naked'. Still going to blame only Bill? You literally put bait out there to make him go bad.

I'm not saying what he did was excusable, but I am implying that the victim is not blameless, she could've prevented this, at so many opportunities, that it's impressive many others didn't jump on the chance too.

>>81347227
Recently in the UK we had a woman who was raped agree with the female judge's statement that she was irresponsible and should have been much more careful the night of. Basically she got blackout drunk at a party with a bunch of people she didn't know in an unfamiliar place. The woman who came forward actually waived her right to anonymity to come forward to support the judge.

Both were lambasted in the media. The judge as a victim blamer and the victim as an abuse enabler. This fucking world is fucked.

Oh yeah I forgot, in the UK, total and complete anonymity is provided for the accuser, no matter the outcome of the trial, even if the accused is acquitted, the case collapses or the victim themselves withdraws the complaint. Forever. The accused is listed publicly from accusation. It used to be the case where both were anonymous and if convicted, the rapist was made publicly known. That got changed though. The world is fucked.

>spent loads of time making tapes explaining herself
>didnt have the presence of mind to understand her problems were miniscule
>didnt have the presence of mind to NOT COMMIT SUICIDE

>>81347258
No shit, robbers and rapists and murderers exist and they're not going away. They're pieces of shit and should die. But there are things you can do to help prevent these horrible things from happening to you and in the context of this show, you shouldn't be going to a party hosted by a fucking rapist. If you do, you should be always with at least 1 close friend not in hot tubs by yourself.

>>81347432
Here's the one fact that is relevant: Bryce raped Hannah.
He didn't have to commit the crime, but he did. No amount of "it's muh nature" can excuse that.
Hannah was at a party with her friends. Unless you're a territorial animal like a dog, it's entirely irrelevant that it was at Bryce's house.
Even stripping to her underwear is irrelevant. It was so she could get in the hot tub, not so that she could lure in men. Do you honestly think she went to the party that night and took off her clothes hoping to get sex?

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HOW ABOUT EXERCISING A LITTLE COMMON SENSE AND NOT GOING TO A PARTY HOSTED BY SOMEONE YOU KNOW RAPED SOMEONE ELSE?!?!!!
AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS?!?!

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>>81347571

>>81347580
>just completely avoid the single most popular guy in school, who you share multiple mutual friends with
>never go to parties ever
>you are at fault even after trying to get away from a rapist and being pulled back

>>81347657
>being popular is worth the risk of being raped
Wew lad.

maybe im autistic but i really dont understand why rape is seen as some huge mind shattering event. i've done extremely regrettable things and im perfectly fine. i've had bad sexual encounters that i wish i could scrub from my memory. thinking of these things can be painful but it's also made my character stronger. i often feel like sexual assault victims are allowing themselves to wallow in their own world of hurt

>>81347571
This is some top quality bait, imported straight from a Title IX investigation.

The fact that you say that, removes all the agency the victim had before the crime, and that's untenable.
Also, I said that had many opportunities to prevent this, not that it was her fault.

>>81347208
good point

>>81347657
Now thats some Trump Tier B8, M8

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I bet you mysoginist pigs also thought this precious angel was asking for it.

>>81347752
pure

>>81347657
>Rapist threw a party I wasn't invited to
>better turn up to it, don't want to be less popular

It infuriates me so much. This bitch expect people to just read minds and shit. Just to intuit that something is wrong. And when people do catch on to something not being okay, she spurns them and blames them all. I hate it when women do that. If you have a problem speak on it.

I can't imagine any boy doing what she did. Okay, to be fair they'd probably shoot up the school instead of kill themselves and blame everyone else for it.

This shit was like what would happen to the kid from Moonlight he was a white woman.

>>81347710
>>81347724
>>81347686
Welp time to give up. I just really hope that you avoid actively blaming any rape victims to their face, and I really hope you get explicit consent if you ever have sex. That's the least you can do.

>>81347848
You ruined it with basically admitting you were funposting

>>81347818
>Okay, to be fair they'd probably shoot up the school instead of kill themselves

Men have much higher suicide rates than women and school shootings like Sandy Hook or Columbine are pretty rare.

>>81347848
Two things to say, one, we never said it was her fault, but instead, that she had the knowledge and the power to prevent it, and two, you're on 4chan, did you really expect people to sympathize with some hugbox argument about how it's never the victim's fault? Fucking idiot.

>>81347848
Most men record all private contact with women now, it's the only way that Australian man beat a murder charge after that crazy dumb bitch got herself killed.

>>81347872
>Trying to convince rapist sympathisers that rape is the fault of the rapist above all else is fun
Gee whiz.

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>>81346665

>>81347848
Well see no one is arguing that a rapist is at fault for a rape, that's impossible to argue. Unfortunately rapists exist, and when you literally know a rapist, don't fucking hang out with them. Fucking idiot.

>>81347901
You're so weirdly indoctrinated by this site and its culture, and you don't even see that it's a negative impact on your life

>>81347964
isn't at fault*

>>81347626
>>81347710
i doubt it /tv/ has been getting lots of posters like these lately, most likely from reddit

>>81347901
No, I said it was her fault.

She saw him rape someone. She didn't even try to contact the girl he raped. She just went to his party, got raped, let nobody help her, made a bunch of tapes about nobody helping her then killed herself.

The only way this was not her fault was if she had some mental illness, but she wasn't portrayed like she did.

Her shit mom can probably use this as evidence to sue the school for millions of dollars.

>>81347906
>tinder date jumps of balcony and kills herself
>im going to go and get some pizza right now
what did he mean by this?

>>81347991
Coming from the person saying a girl should go to a rapists party to fit in. Who's indoctrinated again?

>>81348002
We need more pro trump threads?

>>81346665

Bush was such a baller. Throwing strikes, dodging shoes, fighting wars, doesn't get much manlier than that.

>>81346013

The show basically says it was her fault, but not for your retarded sophomoric reasons. The show's clearly not aimed at /pol/tards either but does a nice shoutout to them through Tyler character, aka the guy who's about to shoot up the school.

>>81347991
Nice ad hominem.
By removing all agency from the girl you basically turn her into bait for criminals and idealogues.
Exactly what is happening here, you think she's a saint that had no influence on this and that the event would've happened no matter what, and that's wrong, she had knowledge and multiple oportunities to turn around and prevent further damage from being done to herself and others.
Instead, she chose to go to the rapist's house to party nonetheless.
Talk about bad choices.

>>81348057
Well, change the WE to an I.

is this like stranger things when in the end chad wins and the beta cuck loses ?

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>>81347906
>>81348061
Huh?

>>81348057
>describes the actions of a mentally ill person
>she wasn't portrayed like she had a mental illness!

>>81347932
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Son

>In October 2008, Son was charged by California authorities in relation to his participation in a 1990 gang rape. He was initially charged in Orange County, California, with five counts of rape, two felony counts of forcible sodomy, two felony counts of sodomy in concert by force, seven felony counts of forcible oral copulation, and one felony count of sexual penetration by foreign object by force. He faced a maximum sentence of 275 years to life if convicted.[3][9]

Son and an accomplice tortured and repeatedly raped the victim before releasing her with her pants tied around her eyes. During the trial, the woman said that Son told her, "It's Christmas. This is your lucky day." Before jury selection began for his trial in early August 2011, the initial charges against Son were dropped having expired due to the statute of limitations. Son was then charged with conspiracy to commit torture and murder, crimes which have no statute of limitations.[10] In late August, Son was found guilty of one felony count of torture.

>>81347991
and youre so weirdly indoctrinated by the thinking that women should practice no risk minimization that youre going to cause a negative impact on women when something bad happens that may have been avoided

>>81346013
This is another shit show from Netflix they've had like 5 in a row when everyone was screaming about Original content!

If it wasn't for Marvel they would have never taken off

>>81348120
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjax87Y75DTAhXLjZQKHUQ7BMoQFggiMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brisbanetimes.com.au%2Fqueensland%2Fgable-tostee-trial-after-tinder-date-died-tostee-ate-pizza-phoned-lawyer-20161012-gs0y5m.html&usg=AFQjCNEsJXP53ThpHE5v1mhTMg3PrT5AIA&bvm=bv.152174688,d.dGo
irl shitposting

>>81348257
They really are the best at it

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>Rescue a vicious pit fighting dog from Guatemala
>Take it home
>Put on your steak scented perfume and dominant male pheromone deodorant before going to bed
>It mauls you in your sleep
>"Wtf this was totally not my fault"

>See a rapist
>Go to his house
>Get naked in his house
>Get raped
>"Wtf this totally wasn't my fault"

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

>>81348061
lol Balcony brah

>>81346013
can't wait for this show to get 10 seasons because netflix has no idea there's a such a thing called "mini-series"

She was a narcissist

Sad what happened to her and a lot of bad shit happened to her, but that mindset of "me me me" is what killed her.

Shit cringe fest

Also season 2 with the photographs kid when?

-

>>81346763
Not her fault but she put herself in that scenario

>>81346722
But she knew bryce is a rapist? Going to a rapist party in the middle of the night when most of them are gone and only 2 other people there were zach justin and jessica which already betrayed her, she decided to undress. Now that is just asking for trouble

>>81347258
Mate no one here is defending the rapist. They are pointing that she put herself in harms way. Even in episode 1 she was told that bryce is evil and stay away from as much as u can

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>Watching young adult fiction adaptations

>>81349424
you do realize you're on /tv/, where people watch riverdale unironically here?

>>81346013
I've hear that show has lesbians

so tell me /tv/, is there something more other than kissing? Because if not, I don't really care.

>>81348502
>See a lion eat an antelope
>Buy the finest antelope furs money can buy and wrap yourself in antelope steak
>run into a lion den
>wtf stop eating me omg not asking for this

>>81347258
She knew he was a rapist and she still went to the party.
That's like getting mugged in a bad neighborhood but willingly going there again just because.

>>81349491
>He can't get off to simple kissing
I've spiralled so far into the degeneracy that I''ve circled back to the point that I can fap to kissing

>>81349453
we only watch that for prime jack off kino

>>81349491
There is nothing more than that senpai

>>81349611

underrated

>>81349611
If the movie/show is too good I don't really get off on anything
>>81349650
for what? I don't get it
>>81349650
well fuck. I hate when teen shows do that. Oh, we're gonna have gay characters but god forbid they have sex. Only kissing. I was expecting more from netflix when season 2 of house cards have lesbian filler because the show is shit.

>tfw 25 year old NEET who has a low-hour part time job living with parents
>thought about suicide in the past, only thing stopping me is realizing how it would affect others and possibly drive my mother to do the same
>I remember my mom's friends son killed himself and she cried for days and still brings him up, she didn't even know him much but it still affected her to this day
>losing a friend or family member feels different than u would expect, after losing multiple i realized this and crossed suicide off the table so those who cared about me wouldn't get mindfucked

theres other ways to cry for attention when you feel like your backed into a corner, and running away AKA suicide is the most selfish decision to make because if you think your the only one affected, you have your own head so far up your ass you cant see the light of day.

>>81346013
Yes, if anyone tells you otherwise might have their own "opinion" about it.
>book and movie are both stupid.

>2017
>they're using cassette tapes

Most unrealistic thing ever. Very contrived and forced.

>>81349453
Riverdale is the best new show this season.

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>>81349787
>tfw we're in the same boat, except I'm older

>>81349824
Nope. A cassette was the perfect tool for someone this narcissistic, If she knew how to strum a guitar all these messages would have been in song form.

>>81349787
Now imagine if that kid wrote a letter addressed to your mom explaining how that one time she didn't say hi to him in the store really affected his desire to reach out to someone and that she could have prevented his suicide if she had just said hi on that day.

Now imagine that happening to 12 other people.

Now you have the show.

>>81346711

Wouldn't it more likely dissuade people when they consider how brutal it looks, especially from an outside perspective?

>>81346800
so fucking fat her mom couldn't even get her out the bath tub
kek

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>>81350013
How old, senpai?

>>81350277
Two years shy of 30.

Made a thread earlier. Rape is bad, but why the fuck would she go to a known rapist's party and get in a hot tub in her underwear? Some people said Bryce snuck in with her, but I thought he was there all along. Regardless, horrible decisions. Especially to blame a bunch of other kids for your suicide. Way to actually fuck them up mentally for years or life, you cunt.

The only thing the show did well was have teenagers speak like teenagers. They actually said fuck and used the phrase cum dumpster.

>>81350301
Beat ya. 32 wizard.

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I met the creator of the show, Brian Yorkey, when I went to interview to be Clay's photo double.

Towards the end of the interview he cracks some cringey joke that gets a few laughs.

To this day I have no idea wtf he was talking about.

Brian: "Whats your name, Angus?"

Me: "Uhh no its anon"

Brian:"Oh anon, right, I'll think of you next time I see an empty chair."

Me: "Okk..."

Does anyone know what the fuck this dude is talking about?

Also what is up with the ending? Is it gonna have a second season or what? Why did they show the photos guy hiding lots of guns

>>81350452
I m turning 25 next month. Have a good job, decent family and a loving gf. Yet i want to kill myself. There is no winning is there?

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>>81350494

Yfw Dylan Minette is pretty chill in real life.

>>81350525
That's the human experience, bud. It's not compassion or empathy or love, it's existential dread.

>>81350301
Are the powers as grand as they say?

>>81346013
literal john green fanfic

>>81350413
this whole thread is literally 3 people arguing over the rape thing. and i agree bryce character was portrayed really well as a high school dudebro. besides the horrible rape thing, I don't even think my school had anyone as cool and rich as bryce.

>>81347571
Why would she feel confortable to go at a party in the house of a rapist ? With friend or not.
How could she feel confortable enough to go in the hot tub in underwear at the place where the rapist lives ?
Even if she didn't expect anything bad to happen it was still irresponsible. Even if the rapist did commit a crime, she still lacked some awareness of the situation.

>>81350182
Surprisingly no
The reason it didn't have slow motion or any music wasn't an "artistic choice" either. It's stop romanticizing it, but that still won't work

>>81346763
Go back to facebook.

>>81347657
>>81347848
Man, you're dense. People enabling this guy because of his popularity is what prevent her for telling everyone he's a rapist, being afraid of her reputation if she report a crime is what make her egoist. People being more concerned about the image they have to put to be popular is what cause this guy to do the shits he does, because in his sociopathic way he knows he can get away with it. Avoiding a bad situation at the detriment of her popularity knowing what the person trowing the party could do was the best course of action she could have made, it is a courageous thing to do in a way. Going to it anyway because she wanted to maintain her popularity is weak and a cause of her being the vitcim of the rapist. Like nothing bad in this show could have happen if these teenagers took responsibility for their actions despite what everyone else thinks.
You sound like the kind of person who could endorse nazism in the 30s because of its popularity.

>>81350525

See a therapist, eat more carbs.

>>81346665

That little smile Bush has after he dodges the first shoe gets me everytime.

>>81346763
>anon reblogged this

>>81347752
Is she wearing a wig?

>>81347096
If women can't protect themselves they don't deserve rights.

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Just finished it, is there gonna be a season 2? I mean I know it's only 1 book or something but they did seemed to set a bunch of shit like the Tyler school shooter subplot as well as the Alex headshotting himself one. I'd also like to see the rest of the trial and Bryce get jailed and/or killed by Justin. Also, That """guidance counselor""" deserves the rope.

That wrist slitting scene was brutal though... holy fuck

do you want to prevent rape or have the moral high ground? sometimes it's better to be safe than right.

>society needs to change

rape will always be around, just as theft, murder, or any other crime will be.

>women aren't objects

your body is an object, protect it. men's bodies are objects too.

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>unironically killing yourself because you don't like high school

I don't really think they gave Hannah enough of a believable reason to kill herself but I still really liked the show as a whole.

can't see myself ever rewatching tho

>>81346482
The books a lot better and actually somewhat entertaining. I don't even want to watch the show.

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>>81354679
>"I can confidently say that the book is much better than the show"
>Hasn't seen the show

>>81354810
The trailers and what people are saying are enough to figure that out.

Making a show out of the book is a stupid idea. It works much better as a book when you think about the structure of the story.

Girl on the train had the same problem. Much better as a book. Some shit just doesn't translate into being a show

Iwonder how much Jay Asher got paid to let them make some crappy shit out of his book

How violent is the suicide scene?
Is it worth the journey up to it?

>>81355004
>razor in arm and slides down
>pain moans
>blood pours out and hands are shaking as she goes to the next arm
>slide into the sweat release
That's it

Was the main kid still number 9? This is important.

>>81355125
i think he was number 11

>>81355125
is it important though? number 9 is the first rape and 11 is the main kid

>>81355422
No, I was just wondering if they kept it the same. I honestly haven't read the book in years, so he might not of even been number 9 in the book.

Mostly unbelievable garbage with shit dialogue that can hide under the guise of "well you're just underestimating how retarded teenagers are".

Suicide scene was kino though, glad they went balls deep on that. Digs the razor into her left wrist twice holy fuck