Give me one good reason why he shouldn't be the next Bond

>>81323924
His a cuck.

>>81323924
Because turning James Bond Black is a retarded idea and goes against the original view of the character.

>>81323924
Craig is apparently doing one more film. Elba will be almost 50 by the time he would be Bond. If he became Bond right after Brosnan that would've been cool but that might've interfered with The Wire.

>>81323969
Isn't the important thing that he's British, not that he's white?

Especially after seeing him in Luther I think he'd be great.

>>81323924
I'd be better

I like Idris but ultimately when it comes down to it, people are just throwing him into the mix because he's black.
Not because mainstream audiences think he's a good actor because not many people have seen The Wire or Beasts of No Nation but because they've seen Pacific Rim or Thor.

>>81323990
>not important to be white

where do you think you are right now?

>>81323924
Bond isn't a nigger

>>81324026
a board that loves the Wire more than it emulates /pol/

Too busy preparing for Bill Gates biopic

>>81323990
You need a white, brown / black haired brit with a young good physique and good manners. That's what everyone thinks of when you say "Bond".

There's a lot of people who don't fit that profile already.

Yes, I'd have a problem if the next Bond doesn't fit that description, because it'd feel like I'm not watching a Bond movie.

>>81324013
Stop shitposting here, Redmayne.

>>81323924
I still can't beleive that he was cast as Roland 2chainz and I can't believe that King has become so cucked as to support it.

Bachman books were good because he was young and pissed off.

Then you read Mr. Mercedes where the old white man's side-kick is a wise-cracking black boy who is also very sweet and respectful and has a white girlfriend.

Fucking little cuck lord

>>81323924
because Idris isn't a paki

>>81323924
I'd prefer Idris Elba desu

>>81323990
all british people are white though
theres no such thing as a black british person, it's oxymoronic

Because it's James Bond, not Jamal Bond.

Why must we niggerize everything?

Idris himself said he's too old.

because bond is a british white male. yes, there have been different interpretations of Bond but the basics of the character is that he is a womanizing, charismatic, suave, british white male.

they already fucked up Q, Spectre and Blowfield don't let them fuck up James Bond more than they already have

>>81323924
on the basis that even a niggard could make a better movie than the last bond piece of shit, I can't think of a single reason

>>81323924
he a nig

>>81324779
the blonde chick was incredibly qt though

he's not a woman

>>81323924
Because James Bond is white.

>>81323924

As long as it keeps Jane Bond from ever happening, I don't care if he ends up as Bond.

>>81323924
I think he's a genuinely great actor and I always enjoy seeing him in movies, but he ain't Bond. Not by a long way.

Give me one good reason why they shouldn't make him 008 or 006 in the same universe
>market it as a bond movie
>can even have 007 in there
>Normies and nu-/tv/ love their cinematic universes
>Normies love Idris
>Panders to the black crowd, while also pleasing the white crowd

Guaranteed 1 bil BO

He should be next everything. The Gunslinger, Bond, Jesus. The new era of cinema will start like that. The first step is to give every major role in every movie to Elba and Boyega. The second step is to feature big veiny black cocks stroking towards the screen in every motion picture. Just pounding the air in front of a camera. And really brave directors would even film themselves sucking on it, gaging. This is the future of cinema we all hope for.

Sory for bad english, I am Sweden.

>>81324234
this

>>81324102
I think his personality is 100x more important than his appearance. Bond is suave. White is like a tertiary characteristic. That being said, I don't like Ilba for the role, but maybe that's just cause I haven't seen him in much.

>>81323924
because bond fans are the worst. they fo into each movie knowing he cant die. it becomes a little old after 40 years

>>81323924
He's black.

>>81325961
>Sory for bad english, I am Sweden.
You're doing fine. I saw those veiny black cocks clearly in my head.

>>81326175
>White is like a tertiary characteristic

Yeah, it'll be super tertiary when Black Bond has to go anywhere in Asia or Russia or anywhere that a black person would either stick out like a sore thumb or be literally shunned by the populace.

You SJWs shitters never think in practical terms. You just want him to be black because it's more diverse, you don't consider any ACTUAL reasons for it or consequences after the fact.

>>81326292
Jesus Christ man

>>81323924
He's a nigger.

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>>81323924

Dark Tower will be the flop of the year and do Power Rangers numbers, which won't hit $100m in US.

Keep in brain that producers spent $50m or more over a decade of development and plan for a trilogy and TV show.

When CinemaCon fizzles on a pos blockbuster like Dark Tower, Bond goes bye bye. I wonder if DT even breaks $200m ww.

>>81323924
Idris is already too old and famous to take on bond for 3-6 movies

Also if you're going on the, bond should be black, I guess that would be fine but knowing Hollywood they would make the movie about needing to protect the ghetto

>>81326472

Open your fucking eyes you imbecile.
Maybe you're not white, so you don't know, but being white is the most advantageous thing for a spy. You could pass as any kind of European or Latin American if you're tan, you could be from anywhere, and you could be doing anything.

White people don't stand out anywhere, except in horrible ghettos or third-world tribal villages.

Did /tv/ ever watch Luther? That was a fun show.

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>>81326292
Aw, come on, give us a black Bond, it'll do great in China.

>>81326635
So, what you're saying is, you actually want Oscar Isaac as the next Bond?

>>81326651
Yes, and part of Luther's character is being a big mentally unstable scary black man. There are multiple times he waltzes into dangerous situations and stares people down.

This would not be possible for that queeny version of Sherlock Holmes, for example.

>>81326688

That's another thing, if Black Bond ever went to China he'd literally get spat at.

>>81326705
I agree, I just got bored of talking about Bond and remembered Luther. That psychopath girl was cute.

>>81326701

He's not from the UK and he's also too short.
Height would be less of an issue if he was built, but he's not that either.

Oscar Isaac also couldn't pass for "white" anywhere but the US.

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>>81323924
James Bond is an iconic British character and one of the most famous figureheads of modern British culture.

To make him black would be to ignore the basic cultural and genetic makeup of the nation which his character is supposed to embody and represent.

This too >>81326292

Idris Elba is a based negro to be honest.
I don't feel like the role of Bond fits him well but I wouldn't mind it either, even if it's just once just to see how it works out.

>>81326292
I can feel your aneurysm through my computer screen. It's a movie man, relax.

Also if that's the extent of your argument, that's weak as hell. Out of all the stunts James Bond has pulled in his movies, you think the most unrealistic would be having a black guy in Asia? I can think of three easy solutions:

1. Don't set the movie in Asia.
2. Play it off for laughs (best Bond is humourous Bond, fuck Daniel Craig).
3. Just don't acknowledge the fact, because I guarantee the vast majority of film goers won't have their suspension of disbelief broken. They wouldn't even think twice about it. The only people who'd watch a black Bond in Asia and think "THERES NO WAY HE WOULD BLEND IN" would be a tiny minority of people like you who bitch and moan every time they see the name of any actor who isn't 100% white.

I guess my favourite would've been Clive Owen 10 years ago.

Not too ken doll good looking but still able to easily honey trap the ladies.

>>81326757
this, it'd be like making a movie about an African slave in America except the slave is white. While obviously that example is more extreme due to how deeply entrenched slavery was in terms of race, it still doesn't make any sense culturally speaking.

>>81326784
>1. Don't set the movie in Asia.
Great, ignore one of the most interesting regions of the world for the hypothetical 4+ Elba Bond movies. Don't forget Daniel Craig Bond only went to China for like one scene, so we'll just have another ten years of generic European adventures.
>2. Play it off for laughs (best Bond is humourous Bond, fuck Daniel Craig).
Play off his race for laughs? Isn't this counter to your argument? Also what does this mean? Is he going to walk into a Ukrainian arms deal and say "Oh I guess I missed the KFC" ?? Or like pretend to be Jay-Z when he needs to investigate something?
>3. Just don't acknowledge the fact,
Then what's the point of making him black? You can't pretend being black isn't a big difference from being white. And race "blindness" doesn't solve anything. SJWs would also just complain he wasn't black enough and the whole exercise would be pointless.
Also you're very naive if you think the majority of 40+ moviegoers (which make up a big portion of the people who see Bond movies, unlike Fast & Furious or Mission Impossible) wouldn't be weirded out if he was suddenly black.

>>81323990
>Isn't the important thing that he's British,
yes,

it's exactly why he can't be black

>>81326926
>Great, ignore one of the most interesting regions of the world
Yeah I wouldn't have an issue with this. The world is a large place my friend.

>so we'll just have another ten years of generic European adventures.
It sounds like you don't even like the bloke.

>Play off his race for laughs? Isn't this counter to your argument?
Not his race, just the fact that he doesn't fit in in some places. Maybe he ducks into a crowd of Chinese folk and they all stare at him like he's a ghost. I'm sure their million dollar screenwriters could figure something out.

>Then what's the point of making him black?
Make snowflakes like you upset :^)

Also you seemed to have missed the part where my post was about your specific complaint about a black spy in Asia.

>>81327196
>the world is a large place my friend
So you're okay with Europe, Europe, Europe again?

>Not his race, just the fact that he doesn't fit in in some places. Maybe he ducks into a crowd of Chinese folk and they all stare at him like he's a ghost. I'm sure their million dollar screenwriters could figure something out.
That's called a comedy film. There's such films as Rush Hour or the Golden Child that you'd probably enjoy, James Bond doesn't seem to be your cup of tea.

>Also you seemed to have missed the part where my post was about your specific complaint about a black spy in Asia.
So you are an imbecile. If you think the only places a black guy wouldn't fit in are China or Japan, you're delusional.

You have no reason that Bond should be black other than your ridiculous notion than "it's about time" or whatever. You're not even making it interesting, you're not pitching a Shaft or Superfly version of James Bond, like some retro-blaxploitation movie where it would kind of make sense. You're not even trying to have it make sense in a serious context of a James Bond film.

>"Hurr, what if he runs through a crowd of Chinese people and everyone stares at him, I bet Michael Bay or Brett Ratner could do it."

Seriously? Your opinion is worthless.

>>81327358
>"it's about time"
Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not even advocating for a black Bond. I'm just saying it's not as big a deal as you /pol/shits make it out to be. You also kept calling me a SJW which I'm not. I don't care that ScarJo was cast as Major, nor do I care that a white woman was cast as the Ancient One in Doctor Strange (although I fucking hate Tilda Swinton). You're just as bad as all the people that complain about those.

They're fucking movies. You people get so worked up over them it's ridiculous.

And don't try to pretend Bond movies don't have humor, craigfag.

>>81327492

The shitty ones have "jokes," which is obviously what you mean, like Joe Don Baker having a Texan accent and yelling. That's the kind of shit you mean, as you were suggest a literal record-scratch-tier moment of Idris Elba in a Chinese restaurant earlier.

All the Bond movies have humor, even the Craig ones. There's a difference between humor and a joke. Jokes don't fit, humor does. You need to learn the difference.

Dalton is my favorite Bond.

>>81323924
the next bond is the return to goofy bond

>>81323924
>black spy
what use could that be? no one needs to spy on Uganda.

>>81327596

I'm sure white Ugandans do better than black ones anyway. That's how it is for most African countries.

>>81327561
>restaurant
I'm writing one thing and you're reading another.

>>81323924
>good
>reason
>walks into hotel room to off Lotte Lenya
Lotte: "I didn't order shoe shine service!?!"
>walks into casino to challenge Le Chifre
Chifre: "boy, I'll have a gin and tonic"
>crashes Fort Knox to off Goldfinger
Goldfinger: Nigga! You afta mah bling? GET BACK.

>>81323924
I want Tom Hardy to do it.

>>81327662
>Martini sir?
>mmh

>>81323924
Because Dan Stevens would be better

>>81327656

Oh, sorry.

Please describe this totally not out of place scene where Black Bond gets gawked at by a bunch of chinks?

Does he also say something like "Look out, white people (even though you're Asian you technically do better in school than whites and usually make more money after colleges so you're just as privileged) a MAN of COLO(U)R can be a spy too!" after is happens?

>>81323924
NO ONE WOULD PAY TO WATCH THAT SHIT

>>81323924

Because he's a fucking nigger, you dumb fuck.

>>81327661
>No, Mister Bond, I expect you to take care of your children!

>>81327662
>>81327688

>Q hands Bond his latest gadget
>"I have a use for you"

>>81327662
Be VERY careful now

>>81327763

M: Your license to kill has been revoked.
Bond: OH HELL NAH

>>81323924
Because the character James Bond was born in Wattenscheid, Germany.
His father Andrew Bond was Scottish and his mother Monique Delacroix was from Switzerland.

If Bond was black now, you have to change the whole past of that character.

>>81327688
>>81327803
powder stirred not shaken mmm

>>81327981

Which was the last Bond film in which Bond's heritage is relevant or mentioned? I'm really asking.

>>81327981
you're right, we need to wait another 5 years

>>81323924
Honestly I wouldnt care much because Idris Elba is a cool guy

99% of the time when they change race the black guy is some random asshole who changes an iconic character everybody loves

And they'd probably put interracial fucking in there because hollywood hates black women but loves cuck shit

Actually, fuck Elba, I'd rather have Dalton than him

>>81323990
Bond is described as a upper class Scottish man in the books

>>81328017

Literally the most recent two

>>81323990
Makes no sense for Bond to be a nigger. Can niggers ever come up with their own original characters that don't involve being a slave?

>>81328089
>upper class Scottish man
He eats dirt with a spoon?

>>81323924
The next Bond movie will be with Daniel Craig again. Idris Elba can be in the one after that. I wouldn't mind.

>>81323990
Non-white people can't be british.
Blood matters, you mongoloid.

>>81328242
>anglos
>white

>>81328258
Anglos are horrible people, that's true, but they literally invented the "white" category.

>>81327722
Don't make me type it again

>>81328196
kek

>>81323924
Because he doesn't want to be, and for good reason. The guys built a reputation as a good actor, not just a good black actor. If he does this then he will forever be known as the first black Bond. That will be his legacy no matter what else he achieves.

>>81323924
Imagine him in Casino Royale.
Do you think he'd be able to walk into that hotel without raising suspicion?

>>81328495
I hate the idea of a black Bond as much as the next guy, but can we please not pretend that the problem is 'he won't blend in' or whatever? There are so many reasons it doesn't work - inventing such pedantic complaints only makes our argument seem less convincing.

>>81328565
He would blend in, but in some missions/situations. In others it would look ridiculous.
I suppose they could write around it, or for him.
Also, I love Idris Elba. Seriously he's a great actor.

>>81328623
I agree. It's not for lack of respect for Idris Elba that I don't want him as Bond - I just don't think it would work.

>>81327662
Would Mhmm Nootka even do it?
He seems quite content doing his own thing now, being his own boss.

>>81323924
Too old and too thuggish. No not in a racist way, just doesnt have the class. Same as Craig, who also has the same thuggish quality. Bond is a ruthless cunt to be sure, but its supposed to be hidden behind a thin veneer of upper class appearance. Elba and Craig cant pull of that facade. Also, an indian or chinese descent Bond would make way more sense if you want to go that route. Chiwetel ejiofor is a black brit who has the menace and class to pull off a bond though, but he is old now i think.

>>81323990
>British, not that he's white?
You can only be Brittish if you are white

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>>81323924
Not trolling, he would make a fucking great Bond.

I've only seen him in Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance but oh man.. after I saw that movie I immediately knew why so many are wanting him to be Bond.

He's got the charisma of an agent and can be pretty funny.

Sad thing is that he himself said he feels too hold to be Bond and I don't think the studio would try to force him to sign a 10 year contract or so (not to mention I don't even know if the studio have considered him to play Bond).

10 years is way too long for someone like Idris who imo he should just do 1 movie and go out with a positive bang so why not let him do just 1 movie?

>Idris Elba with a beautiful Asian Black mixed girl
WOULD WATCH

Because then it wouldn't actually be Bond, no doubt he could actually do a good VERSION of Bond but saying he should be Bond is saying a white Blade could work because he would still be 'Blade' but it would only be a version of Blade.

>>81324228
There are blacks in Britain with a longer British pedigree than their goddamn queen.

>>81329471
A koala living in canada is not a grizzly

A brown bear living in china is not a panda

A lion living in the amazon is not a jaguar

>>81329059
A one-off Bond with Elba could be pretty great. /pol/ wouldn't get as buttfrustrated as they would if we'd get stuck with him for 10 years, and the Bond-franchise could score its diversity points and not worry about that for some time.

>>81328059
But we've had plenty of black girls in Bond, I don't see your point.

>>81329599
Going by that logic there are hardly any Britons left.

>>81328089
In the books he was also a veteran of WW II and had a butler, charater greatly changed since then

>>81323990
Bond is a conservative franchise. I'm sure some faggot can bring put a novel of evidence contradicting that, but the truth is that the Bond audience tends to be conservative. That means they would be easily turned off by a progressive move such as this. From a business standpoint it is a stupid move. Elba has the Bond personality, but he would never be seen as Bond himself, only an imitation.

He would be great as another 00 agent.

>>81323924
Bond is an icon of white masculinity and the last thing we need right now is changing him into a black guy

>>81323924
Why does he have to be Bond? Just make him another agent.

>Moneypenny, traditionally white, is now black
>Felix Leiter, traditionally white, is now black
Let's just have a black M and Q too, while we're at it. Make the whole damn cast black.

>>81323924
Because Bond needs to represent British imperialism and, thus, be a straight white male. Being anything else would make him vulnerable in the wrong way.

Just imagine someone calling James Bond a nigger. How does he react?

>>81331464
>James Bond but set in Botswana

I'd watch it desu senpai

>>81329599
So, a white living in America is not an American?

>>81323924
Lack of range.

If not him, then who? Not being patronizing, but
>British
>looks the part
>is a decent actor
is not as easy to come by as it sounds at this point.

Elba's problem isn't that he's black, but that he's too old. He'd be even older than Craig was when he started.

>>81331604
This is it. Bond is a relic of a powerful yet dubious past. If he were black, that would be lost.

>>81331681
he's a better actor than 90% of previous bonds

i realize that isn't saying much, but hey

>>81331701
>looks the part

No, he doesn't. He's black.

>>81323924
Elba would have made a great Blofeldt by bringing genuine threat to the character instead of le meme aspect

>>81331766
I didn't mean Elba, I meant for you to suggest someone else. Craig didn't look the part either, but come up with someone good instead of being cross.

>>81323924
Stringer Bell can't play bond, he's american!

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>>81331785
THIS

Elba needs to reserved to play a fucking villain, not Bond

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>>81331795

Fassbender would be my first choice.

>>81323924
because I'd rather him do more interesting stuff than the bland bullshit that the Bond movies have turned into

>>81331836
>40 now
>probably at least 43 when he'd be a new Bond

he's really too old, at best you could make two films with him

>>81325961

Simply kek

>>81331870

He doesn't look old, so who fucking cares?
Craig has looked 50 for the past 15 years.

He's too old

>>81323924
He too old. He is already 44. After 3 movies he would be in his mid 50s.

>>81323924
He is literally a cuckold, raising another man's son

That's not Bond, I'm afraid

>>81328089
>upper class scottish nigger

Is this really what you want to see

>>81332266

That's... that's not what cuckhold means...

>>81332295
His wife cheated on him with another man, got pregnant by that man, and Elba spent years thinking the child was his son

It is the literal definition of a cuckold

>>81329599
>comparing two animals that are in completely different orders to two humans that have a different skin-tone.
Really need to step your bait game up friend, this is extremely poor.

>>81323924
OP, because he's a nigger. Let niggers create their own fictional hero's.

>>81326292
>implying realism has any place in Bond movies

This is a setting where it's possible to turn a car invisible and where Britain has literal space marines. Cast a black actor, it doesn't matter. All the villains already know about Bond. The "secret agent" thing is a lie.

>>81332437
>race is only skin deep

Really need to step your IQ up friend, that was a low-energy shitpost

>>81327868
>I'll have a 40.oz of olde english.
>Shaken not stirred

>>81332607
Still is nowhere near the comparisons you made.

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>>81323924
Even though I like Elba and definitely want him to be the next Bond, I still don't know if he can bring in enough money. The writing and reviews have to be top-notch for it to succeed.

>>81332752
I wasn't that poster

>>81323969
Yes and turning Jmes Bong into a marvel superhero who can leap 20 feet into the air and has unlimited stamina was a really good idea

>>81332437
>two humans that have a different skin-tone.

different haplogroups
different skull structure
different physique i.e. longer muscle tendons
different heriditary ailments
differing lifespan
undeniable IQ differences which are not based on muh poor upbringing

>>81332903
I'm sorry for misaddressing you anon.

>>81324173
he would be better, though. We need a qt bond.

>>81333145
Still doesn't come close to comparing different animal orders

>>81323924
Not progressive enough. Leslie Jones is the only moral choice for the next bond

>>81333110
which James Bond movie did you watch?

Pretty sure craig returned because the kikes told him that his replacement would be this big lipped nigger

>>81333319
Not even LGBT

>>81323924
Honestly i don't care about "MUH DIVERSITY", but i'm not anti-SJW and I think Idris Elba would be fine.

And seriously, you guys can't be serious about "HE ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE WHITE".
Daniel Craig was white and he didn't look like James Bond at all. He was an ugly manlet with pretty much no James Bond-like charisma or style
Not that I don't like the Craig movies, they were pretty good, but he didn't fit the role at all

>>81334291
I was very pissed off about Craig being Bond though. At this point I don't even care anymore. Craig fucked the series beyond help.

WE WUZ SPIES AN SHIET

>>81331628
Then do what the Swedes did an make your own damn franchise.