Slasher Movies Only.

>>81296145

What's considered the first slasher movie?

>>81296381
I would have to say the Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Halloween.

Would you consider Giallo movies to be slasher, on the most fundamental level?

>>81296440
Texas Chainsaw doesn't really follow the conventions of a slasher movie.

Halloween came out two years after Black Christmas and aped a lot of the style from that film. Black Christmas is the prototype for a lot of slasher conventions.

>>81296533
Giallo never heard of it. I'll check it out sometime.

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>>81296440
>>81296586
>who is Herschell Gordon Lewis

Motherfucking Blood Feast, you plebs.

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>>81296586
You don't consider Texas Chainsaw Massacre to be a slasher film where a group of kids one by one get killed a cannibalistic family. I'm sorry but I consider that a slasher film.

>>81296381
Some Mario Bava movie.

Black Christmas does predate Halloween, but Halloween had a larger influence due to it being successful -- like it or not.

>>81296623
HGL pioneered gore films but they were in no way representative of what would be considered slasher movies.

>>81296145
Slashers are really the worst sub-genre in a genre that's already filled with worthless trash. The real question is, What are the least bad slasher flicks? I can't even think of one.

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>>81296688
What's the criteria for a slasher movie beyond a killer going on a murder spree?

>>81296682
A Bay of Blood. All it is is 13 people getting killed in gruesome ways.

>>81296763
That describes shit like Dirty Harry or Cobra.

I think Psycho is the ur-slasher, then A Bay of Blood and possibly Blood and Black Lace (which I haven't seen) codified the tropes it would follow (movie is a series of murders by a killer who isn't seen).

>Scream Factory does great blu-ray releases of old slasher movies
>don't release them in Region 2
fuck
>>81296735
To be fair anon I think slasher movies are something you love or you don't. Least bad tho I'd say the classics like Halloween and A Nightmare on Elm Street, and stuff like Scream is good cause it takes the piss out of the genre.
>>81296381
It could be argued that the 1930s version of Agatha Christie's "And Then There Were None" is the first real slasher.
>Group of people stranded on an island
>Unseen killer picks them off one by one in elaborate ways
Oldest example I can think of but people never bring it up in slasher movie discussion.

What would you guys say about Dario Argento's movies? Beyond the obvious Deep Red, stuff like Phenomen or Opera is essentially slasher with more style and flavour

>>81296145
I have some exclusive deleted footage of the new Spiderman Movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_-8oGrujI

This was Tarantino's slasher direction for the movie after Spiderman goes insane but it got rejected.

>>81296858
And Then There Were None is a murder mystery

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>>81296145
I don't know if this is considered a slasher movie but it's still a good flick.

>>81297064
I suppose but slasher movies can be too (Friday the 13th, Scream, The Prowler, Urban Legend etc.) But it's different to it's contemporary mystery stories, take for example some of Christie's other work. Usually, a murder occurs at the beginning of the story, and we then follow a sleuth as they work out who did it. Usually one or two other people are bumped off along the way, but the body counts are never terribly high.

Contrast this with And Then There Were None, where we have a cast of ten main characters who all die one by one. It's different to detective fiction where the murderer strikes in the dead of night and the police sit down with the suspects. The killer is constantly active, in the way that Mrs Voorhees is constantly lurking behind a tree, ready to kill at any given moment.

Throw on top of this that the killings in the story are fairly elaborate in some cases (crushed under a statue) and just plainly violent (hacked to death with an axe) and it reminds me more of a slasher movie than an episode of Murder She Wrote.

Woah didn't mean to write a thesis, this story just always jumps out at me as being pretty much a slasher story prototype but nobody even touches on it.

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>>81297424
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>>81296533
Yeah. The first couple of Friday the 13ths were direct giallo ripoffs with first person kills and all.

Black Christmas is definitely considered one of the first slasher films.

I'm really digging how Arrow is releasing a lot of these movies on blu-ray. It sucks that they are expensive upon release.

>>81297682
Specifically Bay of Blood. Friday pt 2 copied the spear scene basically shot for shot.

>>81297682
Finally someone who agrees with me on that

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What's the hate on Friday the 13th I love Friday the 13th. I also like other horror movies such as The Burning Maniac original and My Bloody Valentine original. So it's not like anything is original.

>>81298037
I don't sense any hate for Ft13th here.

Personally, I think the first 4 are the best grouping in a Horror franchise.

>>81298037
I'm a fan too. What's funny is how much had to be cut from those to get an X/R rating back then. Flash forward to the 2000s and compare that to the absolutely insane amounts of gore in stuff like Hostel and the Saw series.

>>81297637
As far as the Nightmare movies go, Dream Warriors will always be my favorite. It has that fantasy aspect where the kids each have a specific dream power and band together to fight Freddy. I love that kind of stuff.

>>81298127

1 and 3 and 4 are legitimately awesome movies

>>81298075
I sensed a little bit of hate because Friday the 13th copy this Friday 13th copy that you know what I mean. Buy maybe I read it wrong.

>>81298221

>>81297682 here. Not really hating. It's just interesting to note how similar the first two Friday movies are to Italian giallo films. From part 3 onward it was totally different.

>>81298205
What about New Nightmare that was a really good one interesting concept.

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>>81296381
This.
At least it was the common answer a few years ago.

>>81298323

Great idea but I thought it was terrible. Two deaths in a nightmare movie is weak.

Reinvented Freddy looked pretty cool though

>>81298424
better than Freddy Vs Jason just kills one person.lol

>>81298537

I actually like FvsJ but it's been a while...big Fred only kills the stoner?

>>81297307
yea that movie is pretty fucked

Anyone seen the Maniac remake with Elijah Wood? Pretty brutal.

My top favorites...
> Halloween 4 - The Return of Michael Myers (1988)
> Cold Prey (2006)
> Cold Prey 2 (2008)
> Halloween 2 (1981)
> A nightmare on elm street 3 - Dream Warriors (1987)
> Friday the 13th part 6 - Jason Lives (1986)
> Friday the 13th part 5 - A New Beginning (1985)

>>81299232
Friday part 5 is a weird time capsule movie. It marks the end of the more innocent hippie pot smoking era of the earlier movies. It has more of a 80s sleezy, grimy feel and cocaine use is shown for I think the first and only time in the series. It's not too surprising that the director had previously worked in porn.

>>81296381
The OG in America was 'The town that dreaded Sundown'
honest to goodness this is the first slasher

Has anyone seen the meta-equal thing to The Town that Dreaded Sundown?
Damn good.

>>81298127
>>81298205
I like to think that there we have a really cool Trilogy.

It's honestly shocking how damn good Psycho 2 is.
Psycho 3 was also good but was just standard slasher fare, 2 was on par with the original.

>>81298680
No wonder Fred get mad at Jason.

>>81299706
Parts 3-5 form a surprisingly decent trilogy within the series. Those are the movies responsible for most of the Freddy mythology development.

Scream 4 is damn underrated (so is 3), comfy as fuck with the scenes with Kirby.

>>81299570
what?
meta -equal?

>>81299738
I was impressed by Psycho 2, it's a great movie, despite the shit it got because ''Muh sequels classics are never good'' meme.

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>>81299795
I really like the Scream movies not that stupid TV show.

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Child's Play 1 2 and 3.

>>81299789

I thought 5 was hot garbage but perhaps I'll look at it differently now

>>81300021
It's definitely the weakest of the three but it concludes the Dream Warriors story arc. I always thought Alice was a pretty good final girl.

>>81296381
Psycho is the only answer

>>81299819
The original film is based off the real life Texarkana moonlight murders, this new film takes place in the real world and talks about the original film's creation and such as the new killers are mimicking the real life murders and the film versions of the murders

>>81300021
Oh yeah 5 is the worst Nightmare film, easily, 2 at least had the pool massacre, a good female side lead with Kim Myers and took things seriously.
5 hasn't nearly that much going for it.

>>81300246
>The original film is based off the real life Texarkana moonlight murders
yea I know that
what's the name of the meta movie? Sounds really interesting

>>81300307
5 has some cool set designs though. Plus I actually found the background stuff involving Freddy's mother interesting.

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Is Wolf Creek 1 & 2 considered slasher movies I don't know I think it is.

Cheerleader Camp. Betsy Russell was my 80's waifu thanks to this and Private School.

>>81296145
it's only up on youtube, horror trash at its finest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZyT5cAkE-M

>>81300315
Same as the original.
Here full film - https://gomovies.to/film/the-town-that-dreaded-sundown-4629/watching.html

>>81300620
wrong link here's the non dubbed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_vmv637oGQ

Cheerleader Camp. Betsy Russell was my 80's waifu thanks to this and Private School.

>>81296858
Arrow Video>>>>>>>>>>>>>Scream Factory

I remember watching a really bad slasher film when I was younger while going through my older brothers VHS rips. It had this slasher guy that would kill them for acting badly. I do't really remember any line he says specifically except for the ending, but I assume he said shit like "No using drugs" and "No sex" before killing them.

At the end the slasher is driving an ambulance with a survivor in the back and someone asks him something from the back and he says "No Problem". Anyone know wtf this movie is?

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>>81300901
>>81300901
That last part sounds like Happy Hell Night (1992) with a Michael Myers style priest.
I honestly thought it was decently good.

>>81301056
>Those eyes
That might be it. I must've been 8 or 9 when I watched it and I wasn't impressed but some of it always stuck with me. I'm gonna watch it, thanks guy.

X Ray/ Hospital Massacre, is one of my recent favorites of the genre, it's so hilariously depraved and has a great opening.

https://youtu.be/6APuhzy_FKo

>>81301255
Try Visiting Hours it's the hospital set slasher that gets the most praise besides Halloween 2 of course.

>>81300230
psycho is not a slasher.

>>81300008
The third one is surprisingly good, given the premise. Second one is okay but unfortunately isn't as creepy as the first, though the climax at the toy factory is great. And the first is GOAT. And Curse of Chucky is an amazing return to form, despite the retcons, shoestring budget, and basically every expectation being against it, it really recaptured the vibe of the first movie.

Bunp

Cutting Class is very underrated. Final Exam is fucking trash. Got Blood Rage and House on sorority row downloaded to watch.

>>81300539
Very underrated movie. Funny too.

>>81296763
Naked/half-naked sluts. Slashers are pornos for necrophiliacs

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>>81296533

Of course Italian kino perfected it

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Find a flaw

>>81296533
Psycho is a big influence, though it's not really a slasher.

>>81296670
The problem with that one is that the whole town is in on it.

To me, a slasher has fewer antagonists.

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>I'm Todd!
>I'm Todd!
>I'm Todd!
>I'm Todd!
>I'm Todd!

What did she mean by this?

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Candyman was inevitably great but 2 was actually really underrated.

>>81305592
That's the Remake not the the original.