why is this movie considered bad?

The plot was retarded

>>81284639

who said that? i think most people see it as either average or good

>>81284674
how so?

>>81284639
It was lazy, illogical, and aimless. For a collection of films so desperate to run away from anything resembling camp, it's baffling that it unironically takes inspiration from an Austin Powers film by making Bond and Blofeld brothers. It has one of the worst theme songs in the franchise and Christoph Waltz was horribly wasted as the villain.

>>81284639

Bad vilain = bad Bond. Easy.

>>81284639
The New York Times best-seller, "Of All Your Pain"

It was trying to go for that old school bond feel with blofeld while trying to maintain that casino royale modern feel..besides the opening scene i though it was a missed opportunity

>>81285083
>Christoph Waltz was horribly wasted as the villain.
That was what killed me; when I heard they'd have Waltz playing a Bond villain I was hyped as fuck for the movie.

And then the movie itself happened, and just...yeah.


Also they kept hyping up Monica Bellucci as "the oldest actress to play a Bond Girl" and yet the stuff with her just didn't fit with the rest of the movie. It felt like it was only put in there for the purpose of "holy shit guys we got Bond to bang a woman in her 50s".

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IT WAS A DOCUMENTARY YOU MORONS. SPECTRE (SOROS) IS REAL

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>>81285162

>>81284639

You're a kite dancing in a hurricane.

it was a bond bangs a milf episode

>>81284639
It was a step down from the last movie in pretty much every area, and tried turning Blofeld into a whiny brat with daddy issues.

It was a bit long. It looked gorgeous though.

>>81284639
Because every James Bond movie is bottom of the barrel cancerous movies aimed at the lowest common denominator.

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>>81285334
Heh.

>>81284639
Not sure. I turned it off when the blond Spaniard was killed by the Turk. What happened after that?

That retcon though. Blofeld was in charge of all of Craig's Bond's previous villains.

>>81284639
it featured a balding old white male

It's really not: most i think consider it to be around a 6.5 or 7 out of 10.

Basically a decent though hardly amazing bond. It was the closest of the Craigs to the classic bond feel, it just had some plot issues. Absolutely gorgeous looking thouh.

>>81285889
>It was the closest of the Craigs to the classic bond feel, it just had some plot issues. Absolutely gorgeous looking thouh.

Skyfall more successfully pulled off the homage to classic Bond films (nice blend between Casino Royale and the golden films) and looks better than Spectre in general.

>>81285257
Quantum is actually the name of George Soros funding group which he uses through various fronts like the Open Society Foundation to fund coups and revolutions like in Ukraine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Group_of_Funds

>>81286150
That's like saying a Flash Gordon serial is the same thing as Star Wars.

Skyfall was an deliberate throwback after everyone agreed they lost the old time glamour after quantum. It hit the same nostalgia notes as Kingsman did.

Spectre the other hand was *just* a traditional bond film. Business is usual

They turned Blofeld into a 'le technology le daddy issues lel' numale beta. I hate Daniel Craig's Bond films so much.

its my favorite craig film

>>81285083

>making Bond and Blofeld brothers.

i've seen the movie like three times now and was under the impression blofeld was the blonde girl's brother and not bond's?

I honestly still don't get the plot very well

>>81284639
Bond films are shit

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>>81285877
Just like Bond in the books then?

>>81288798
What about Casino Royale do you hate? I find that to be the best Bond movie.

>>81284639
>reintroduce historic and classic villain with extreme power and influence
>wrap it up in one movie
>franchise villain to end all villains captured when bond literally shoots down a helicopter with a handgun
Steven Seagal tier.

Bond is old and busted. Mission impossible is the new spy movie hotness. I also thought it was funny how they pretended that Quantum never happened. In MI6, they had little pictures referencing the other movies with vesper, M, etc, but ignored QoS entirely.

>>81285257
god damn alex jones is so fucking nuts

>>81290385
Blofeld and Bond are kind of like step-brothers (this is in the original novels by Ian Fleming - Austin Powers didn't think up of the idea they were just referencing the books) who grew up together after Bond's parents were killed in a skiing accident. Blofeld got jealous of his dad's attention towards Bond so he killed him.

The French blonde girl is the daughter of the man who shoots himself in front of the chess game when Bond confronts him (this man was in Casino Royale - he's the guy Bond shoots in the leg at the end of that film).

>>81284639
best craig bond really, easily top five of all time

>>81290989
>implying people on /tv/ read anything

So Le Chiffe was working with Mr. White who was like a leader in Quantum along with Dominic Greene which was really just a sub-group of SPECTRE lead by Blofeld who helped Raoul Silva with his wacky revenge plot?

>>81291378
yup, that's right

>>81284639
James Bond films were always mediocre. I don't know what people were expecting with this one. I liked it.

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>this man was in Casino Royale - he's the guy Bond shoots in the leg at the end of that film

nah man, the one getting shot at the end of casino royale get taken into custody and shot dead in the early scene in quantum of solace

>>81288129
Kek, America is so fucking stupid
>literally calling your company the same as a fictional terrorist organization leaded by a Bond villain

>>81292375
>nah man, the one getting shot at the end of casino royale get taken into custody and shot dead in the early scene in quantum of solace

What? Mr. White escapes and then you see him at the Quantum auction thing. He makes the "Opera isn't for everything" quip when all the other members shit themselves and leave when Bond uses one of their earpieces.

>>81284639
They are memeing, it's a good bond flick

Once he's released 2017's film of the year, can Nolan make a Bond film?

>>81292375
No, that was the Italian fixer guy.

Shit final act that feels horribly rushed. Bond's plot should have ended in Blofeld's base while M and the gang solved things in London, but for some reason they had him destroy the entire base by shooting a gas tank then had Blofeld return ten minutes later for a boring climax. That and the awful "everything that happened in the last three films was because of a secret adopted brother" story.

I really like the cast though and there are some nice set pieces, but it peaks at the train fight.

It's bad but that's because it's still fresh in people's minds. Die Another Day, Quantum of Solace, even Thunderball are all worse movies

>>81285334
Remember that time you had a whistle in your nose that no amount of blowing or picking could get rid of so you had to mouthf-breathe all day?

>>81284639
Because it was rushed, sloppy and trying to be more than it actually was, instead of a plot with ingenuity. Skyfall sucked too
Tbh the opening was awesome though

I though the first half was fine, but the second really shit the bed. Casino Royale is the only good Craig Bond film.

They rushed trying to use Spectre since they just got the rights back. They tried to connect the last three movies together after the fact and thus did not seem like a natural connection. For example Silva and the plot of Skyfall really had no connection at all, they kind of snuck it in there like, oh yea he was Spectre too. They should have had a better build up for Blofeld too. There was no impact to him showing up or saying his name. Everything just felt rushed in that way. The whole ending in London seemed unnecessary. Either have the climax be at the supervillain base with no London scene or have no supervillain base scene and have the climax in London. If the plot focused on London, the dismantling of the 00 program and all that shit and then at the end it turned out it was Spectre or Blofeld behind it all then it would have been more interesting. Instead the movie was split into two storylines that felt rushed.

>>81295908

Skyfall's good as well. Casino's better and you can tell whoever wrote Skyfall had just watched The Dark Knight, but I enjoyed it a lot. It helped that it looked amazing.

>>81284639
Because it falls apart at the third like no movie I've ever seen before, everything after Bond gets brain drilled goes full retard.

>>81285334
Remember that time you jumped in the shower and the hot water suddenly ran out and it was such a shock that you ripped the shower curtain down getting away from it?

>>81296459
I was really bored by it, it's beena while since I seen it though, so I don't remember why exactly. I do remember really disliking the hacker aesthetic Q brought with him though, it was like they were trying to make it as cliché as they could.

>>81296519
what if the rest of the movie is just his delusions after getting drilled and he is still strapped to a chair in Blofeld's base?

Mind blown, man

>>81285334
Remember that time you were late to work because the traffic was so evenly spaced you couldn't pull out of your driveway for fifteen minutes?

>>81296866
Dude like, what if Bond is dead?

"it was me James, all me"

Incredibly forced plot

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>>81296913
IT WAS ALL ME, JAMES, ALL THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>81296253
Silva was being used and he didn't even know it.

>>81296253
So who had the rights for Spectre?

absolutely all james bond is utter popcorn bilge.

you rent it from the blockbuster, watch it for 2 hours and then dont rewind it and return it for the next fag. if you give it a second thought beyond that you are a mentally emotionally crippled subhuman and should be shot for being a fag.

the fact you post about it on a kervorkian basket weaving forum, years after it's release is staggering.

>>81285334
Remember when you had that popcorn shell stuck between your two back molars for two days and nothing this side of a low-yield tactical nuke seemed capable of getting it out and you rubbed the tip of your tongue painfully raw worrying at it?

>>81298458
>get pomegranate seed stuck in the crevice of you molar
>Suddely gain a new appreciation of the story of Persephone

>>81284639
>James bong rides off into the sunset

hmm

>>81297466
>SPECTRE and its characters were at the centre of long-standing litigation between Kevin McClory and Ian Fleming over the film rights to Thunderball and the ownership of the organisation and its characters. In 1963, Fleming settled out of court with McClory, which awarded McClory the film rights to Thunderball, although literary rights would stay with Fleming and thus allow continuation author John Gardner to use SPECTRE in a number of his novels.

>>81293079
Dude, I hate many things about 'murricans, but that's just cool.

Casino Royal> Quantum Spectre >>>>> Skyfall

>skyfall is one if not the worst james bond film ever made