God is not dead 2

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>>81278183
>pureflix

>>81278183
Does God die?

>>81278632
He was never alive

>>81278183
Evangelicuck propaganda

>>81278224
>pureflix
>claim to be preaching the word of the Lord, which is meant to reach all humankind
>charge 7.99 per month following a 30-day trial subscription

>>81278183
>pureflix?

>>81278183
There is one hell of an untapped market of Christianity.
Too bad everyone in Hollywood is too much of a psycho atheist jew to capitalize on it.

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>Pureflix

I would love for them to make a movie called "Allah's not Dead" with the same premise and see libtard faggots praise it for being brave.

>>81278901
Wow, what a twist!

whats the point of this thread

>>81278224
>top left
UNSUBSCIBED!

>>81278632
Only for a couple days

>>81279014
this is the kind of movie that taps that market

the trailers encourage youth leaders to book group showings for the movies

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>>81278224

>first title is just BLACKED without the large dicks

Evangelicals are so fucking desperate for relevance

>>81279031
Muslims praise the same G-d that Christcucks do though.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx

why are americans so stupid?

>>81278183
oh man, the first was so good
don't call an ambulance, tell him he's going to heaven!

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>>81279031
That doesn't even make sense.
Go read the origin of 'God is dead.'

>>81279159
you have to go back

>>81279159
What a horrible edit.

>>81279196
To the past. Samurai Jack

>>81278632
He does but it was actually a trick.

>>81279159
Go suck my dick libtard.

>>81279134
I don't know if it still stands the same but as of a few years ago like a quarter of Americans thought that the sun orbiter the earth.

>>81279101
> we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons; nor dividing the Essence. For there is one Person of the Father; another of the Son; and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, is all one; the Glory equal, the Majesty coeternal. Such as the Father is; such is the Son; and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father uncreated; the Son uncreated; and the Holy Ghost uncreated. The Father unlimited; the Son unlimited; and the Holy Ghost unlimited. The Father eternal; the Son eternal; and the Holy Ghost eternal. And yet they are not three eternals; but one eternal. As also there are not three uncreated; nor three infinites, but one uncreated; and one infinite. So likewise the Father is Almighty; the Son Almighty; and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not three Almighties; but one Almighty. So the Father is God; the Son is God; and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not three Gods; but one God. So likewise the Father is Lord; the Son Lord; and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not three Lords; but one Lord. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity; to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; So are we forbidden by the catholic religion; to say, There are three Gods, or three Lords. The Father is made of none; neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created; but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten; but proceeding. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Ghost, not three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is before, or after another; none is greater, or less than another. But the whole three Persons are coeternal, and coequal. So that in all things, as aforesaid; the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, let him thus think of the Trinity.

TL;DR No

>>81279148
What? No way.

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>>81279221
Not mine. Just saved it because it harvests (you)s.
>>81279196
Born in the middle of the rust belt. Suck my dick.
>>81279230
Not an argument.

>>81279134
>15 years ago only 9% of americans believed in evolution without god.

How is this even possible?

>>81279268
It is if you're praying to literally nothing

>it's a /pol/fags LARP as Christians episode

itt: shitskins pretend to give a shit about the dumbest white people to ever exist "in solidarity"

why bother

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>>81278224

>When cultures clash...hilarity ensues
>When cultures clash
>When cultures
>cultures

lol just say it you weird fucks, we all know what you mean

>>81279196
>>81279221
>>81279230

Real talk: no bait has ever been so successful as this one.

It works so fucking well, it constantly amazes me how retarded /poltv/ is

>>81279268
>>81279268
"Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached... "

>>81279487
It's universal. I have edits for 6 boards and they all work.

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Christianity was a mistake

>>81279641
I mean it helped create stable civilization

it needs to fuck off now though that we're a developed nation

>>81279641
I miss him bros

;_;

>mfw the old guy from that Adult Swim show Newsreaders is in this

damn

>>81279611

Kek, what boards?

>>81279487
>i was just pretending to be retarded

No matter what, the fact i can just say this destroys any chance you have of this being successful b8. Try again queer.

>God is not Dead 2: God is not Deader

>>81279611
post them

>>81278183
These awful films are an insult to Christianity.

>>81279964
You would think
Yet my christian friends and a lot of my family love them.

>>81278183
Can someone give me a quick rundown on this movie?

>>81279925
>God is not dead 3: The undeadening

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>>81279964

And yet, Evangelicals love them.

It is almost as if Evangelical Christianity is performative tribalism

At my job, I have a coworker who is the Southern Christian Conservative Uneducated Racist-and-he-doesn't-realize-it stereotype. He loved the first movie and would probably love this one too. :(

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>>81278224
>Please watch:
>A personal appeal from Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales

>>81280213

FUCK

>>81279369
Flyover states

>>81279688
me too anon

>>81280083
I can tell you how the first one went
>atheists hate god
>atheists hate christians
>atheists on their deathbed will decide to stop hating god
>logical fallacies will make atheists stop hating god
>text everyone in your contacts to watch this movie

The second one shouldnt be much different

>>81280911
wtf I love god now

>>81279875
>making fun of perpetually angry spergs is retarded
why

>>81279964
Christianity is literally a meme.

>>81281126
please explain

>>81281157
meme

mēm/

noun

an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.

>>81278224
What is Christianity's stance on BLACKED?

I liked the first one. Is 2 worth watching?

>>81281274
It's ok as long as the black has accepted Jesus Christ as his personal savior.

>>81281157
think baneposting but replace CIA with jesus and Bane with god, I guess dr Pavel is us and the flight plan is heaven

>>81280213
my sides

>>81281369
wtf i love christianity now

>>81281369
The flight plan is a myth propagated by the deceiver (CIA), and only those who accept Bane into their hearts will be welcomed into the rising fire.

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>>81281369
I think baneposting is more about the primal struggle between the 2 mythic forces that comprise our reality : the Flight Plan and the Master Plan.

>>81279134

So God exists. When God created the Universe, he thought it. Jesus loved it and the Holy Spirit carried it out. We are here now, talking to each other because God created man. Now, our form. Our biology had to have a blueprint. That blueprint came from God. Whether we evolved, or not, it still doesn't matter because the Holy Spirit helped created man.

I don't know much about creationism but I do read the Bible and understand that people back then were revealed things by the Holy Ghost, whether it was six days or not. (I do believe it was six days) and carbon dating might be wrong because of a world-wide catasprohe (namely a blood) might of fucked shit up but my answer is I don't know but I do believe God exists.

Why? Because there is good.
There is evil.

So, where did good come from?
And where did evil come from?

Are our morals simply a by-product of the evolutionary process? Or was there a God who created us, with a spirit and a compass to regnosize these things?

God bless. Just read the Bible but read some books from some good scholars to understand it.

True Christianity is not a religion, it's a faith.

Christiantity isn't even called that, it's really called "The Way"

>>81281590
But didn't the master plan triumph over the flight plan in the end?

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>>81281736
>He hasn't seen the true ending to TKDR

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>>81281660

>>81281736
CIA and Bane are representative of fundamental forces of the human mythic. Neither of them can truly be defeated for long. The interplay between the Flight Plan and the Master Plan is what has driven all of human achievement throughout time. It may even be responsible for the creation of the universe itself.

>>81281876
ok, so what are the two plans about?
I know the master plan involves getting caught, crashing the plane with no survivors and rising a fire. But what about the flight plan?

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>Pureflix

>>81281991
The Flight Plan involves being in charge and doing things like shooting men before throwing them out of a plane. It's difficult to explain these concepts with words, honestly. I would highly suggest rewatching the plane scene with these concepts in mind and seeing the truth that you can divine from it.

>>81281991
One represents absolute order (FP) and the other represents absolute chaos (MP), both are extremes, both are extremely influential in the environments they happen to be manifested in, and both require figureheads in order to work.
Nolan figured out the basis of human psychology in a single scene, truly worthy of being called kino.

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>>81279134
Poor education.

A Christfag now runs the department of education so I don't expect it will get any better any time soon.

>>81282154
Well said.

>>81278183
I've been thinking of watching this on Netflix, how is it?

>>81278940
We took over the country, my friend. Not so cucky as you think.

>>81279611
Give us all of them.

>>81282201
Pretend Kim Davis is a Teacher
Its pretty much that

>>81279257
Which harmed them how? It's not important for them to know. Scientists make out that they want more participation from the public, but they really don't, they want the public to be more impressed. We aren't, and the scientists are fortunate to live in a society that leaves them to do the neccesary work without the intrusion of political bullshit wherever possible.

>>81279134
They're not. Why do some Americans insist on trying to shame Christianity out of a country that only exists because of Christianity?

>all this Christianity hating ITT
>not realising it is/was the foundation of western civilisation
>not realising that there is an active agenda in mainstream media to turn you against christianity
>not realising that if you get rid of Christianity in your communities, Islam will take its place
>not realising that irreligion is weak and not sustainable, sociologically speaking
Atheism is reddit, kiddo. You have to go back.

>>81280911
Second one
>Sabrina is teaching class
>Kid in class brings up something Christian
>She responses appropriately
>Some kid in class gets offended
>Sabrina gets in trouble
>All she has to do is apologize
>Refuses and gets fired, apparently tenure doesn't exist
>Evil Atheist corporation asks kid to take her to court and they do
>Lots of yelling and fallacies that don't have anything to do with the case
>Sabrina wins
>Some gay Christian concert ensues.

>>81282325
But how is it in terms of cheap indie movies? Is it a good un?

>>81282344
>foundation of "western civilization"

Quotation needed. Christian/monotheist religions led to the collapse of polytheism and the loss of an invaluable archaeological archive, including countless of text and plays written, treatises, letters, temples and cults.

>>81279159
that quote doesnt mean what you think it means, retarded fucking edgelord

>>81282344
>not realising it is/was the foundation of western civilisation

Rome fell a few hundred years after Christianity came on the scene. We have Western Civilization in spite of it

>>81282440
Don't talk fucking shit, nobody values that shit nor should they. The spread of Christianity happened because it gave people a better way to live and a better account of themselves and their place in the world than the pagan faiths it displaced. Give up the snidery, you couldn't live for thirty seconds in the kind of society you're sentimentalizing and you know it.

>>81279031
>I would love for them to make a movie called "Allah's not Dead" with the same premise and see libtard faggots praise it for being brave.

Crowd fund this

>>81282484
No, we have Western civilization solely because of it. What preceded it was only partially civilized.

>>81282488
>The spread of Christianity happened because it gave people a better way to live

I'm fairly sure the current death toll caused by Christianity is in the hundreds of millions...

So much so Wikipedia devoted an entire page just to pointing out how much Christianity has fucked up things;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

>>81282525
>>81282488
>>81282344
facebook-tier bait

>>81282440
Are you an ignorant? Monasteries literally preserved writing and history for western civilization while the rest of Europe was getting sacking by various germans. The Classics included. The sudden explosion during the late middle ages and earlier renaissance is because the majority the surviving text happened to later fall under Islamic control.

>>81282561
What preceded it was worse, and everything that's come up against it has been worse. Try Communism. Try Islam. There is no alternative to the Truth.

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>proddies

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I'm sure this is what Martin had in mind

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>>81282561
>the practice (or mispractice) of the religion is that same thing as the religion itself
I can be a total dick and call myself a Christian, but that doesn't say anything about Christianity itself and the truth thereof.

>>81278183
It's interesting how many fedoras we have in response to this post. Just shows you how reddit /tv/ is.

>>81282349
but who was god?

>>81279393
Atheists also pray to nothing.
Checkmate

>>81282634
atheism and anti-theism is reddit.

>>81278183
Hey, check out the rapegaze on that foreground darkie in the left-hand group. Realism.

>>81282608
Don't you have a kid to diddle?

>>81282634
>t. triggered christcuck

>>81282666
Exactly.

>>81282344
Start with the Greeks

>>81282666
>>81282634
Reddit has The Donald and countless Christian based boards

>>81282689
I'm not triggered, I've been stating the truth online since 2000.

>>81282651
Atheists don't pray

>>81282666
>satan campaigning for agnosticism
of course you would try to turn people to nu-male: the ideology, you fucking faggot

>>81282720
Yeah, they were some of the very first Christians. Certainly some of the very first European Christians.

>>81282766
Yeah, but it mostly has atheists nodding and clucking at each others' jokes. And occasionally pretending to be outraged, as if they had any moral center.

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>G-d
wew

>>81282791
Fagnosticism is a weak philosophy for people who are too scared to make their minds up.

>>81282790
They pray never to be found out. Saying you're an atheist is saying "I have consequences to fear". We all do. Repent and accept your salvation.

>>81282774
that's almost 20 years of your life. Looking back now, do you feel they were well spent? how many fedoras did you un tip?

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>>81282855
I don't pray to spooks

>>81282827
>but it mostly has atheists nodding and clucking at each others' jokes.

You shouldnt generalize the 8th biggest website on the internet.

>>81280911
>atheists hate god
True
>atheists hate christians
True
>atheists on their deathbed will decide to stop hating god
Not true. Because God has willed their damnation they cannot even repent on their death beds.
>logical fallacies will make atheists stop hating god
Not true, only the sovereign decision of God to grant them faith could save them.
>text everyone in your contacts to watch this movie
Doesn't matter.

>>81282344

Back to /his/, faggot

>>81282229
Moron. It's a battle between the Jews and the Mormons and you know it.

>>81282766
The_Donald is secular, and Trump isn't exactly a pious man. And the Christian communities of reddit are either ultra liberal heretics, or so small as to have virtually no influence.

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>ITT

>>81282878
I didn't spend every minute doing that, or even most of the time, and yes, every minute spent opposing error is well-spent. I never argue to convert the atheist, but to dissuade their hearers from being deceived by their lies.

>>81282941
I don't post on /his/

>>81282899
Oh yes you do.

>>81282931
>Because God has willed their damnation they cannot even repent on their death beds.

What?
Wasnt there a whole big thing about the man repenting on the cross sitting next to Jesus and going to heaven while the other guy refused and went to hell?

I havent been to church in a while, but I thought that was an integral part of the faith is saving people even on their deathbed.

>>81282855
>accept your salvation
Grace is irresistible. If he had it, he wouldn't even be able to reject it.

>God exists outside of time and the universe
>but he still suffers from vicious personality and mood shifts like a linear being
Explain this
inb4 Sacred Mystery

>>81282946
Now I want to see Trump and Pence having a duel under the rain in the courtyard of the white house while duel of the fates plays in the background

>>81282183
>christfag
That is not nearly a strong enough term.

>>81282854

Agnosticism is literally the furthest that logic can take you towards answering the question of God's existence, and is therefore the position of all rational thinkers. Atheism is unscientific, ideological nonsense and so is religion. However, religion has a basis in systems of strong morality that have been tested over millennia and worked, whereas atheism has turned art into a joke and falsely crowned physicists as philosophers.

Agnosticism > religion >>>> POWER GAP >>>> paper cuts > a dogshit and cockroach leg smoothie > atheism

>>81282902
Of course I should, most people who adopt anything popular have the exact same personality - lost, tragic, born failed, begging for someone to fill their vacant souls. That's why they're so easy to abuse and deceive. But instead, we bring them the truth.

>>81283053
>Wasnt there a whole big thing about the man repenting on the cross sitting next to Jesus and going to heaven while the other guy refused and went to hell?
God made him convert. Lrn to monergism.
You can no more choose to believe than you can choose to find a joke funny or choose to be absolutely revolted by anchovies. You either do or don't because God has decided for you.

>>81282561
pretty sure they were not Christians if they were killing people, dude. Anyone can say they're a Christian, but if you're killed people after Christ says the only commandment is to "love others as you love yourself" kinda contradictary.

Let's play this. Okay, so if the world was witout religion, would war would be abolished? No. Get rid of ISIS, would war and beheadings stop? No. Chechen rebels behead people everyday, there are so much wars - that it's actually humanity that are causing this destruction upon themselves.

Not Christians, man.

Anyone's arguement that the world would be better without religon is serious ignorant. Wars will still happen just under someone else - like State or Country or Leaders...

>>81282336
It doesn't harm them, it harms other people. Scientific ignorance is how we end up with people boycotting vaccines and spreading measles.

>>81283053
It is, that guy is trolling from a position of inadequate understanding, using a determinist position which is in itself incredibly fringe within the church.

>>81283122
So God decides to save some and decides to send others to hell?

>>81283122
Fuck off Calvin.

>>81283054
No, incorrect, lrn2theology.

>>81283091
>Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Agnosticism is a term for special snowflakes.

>>81283064
God doesn't change, our perspective changes because we are constantly changing. God doesn't become different because we sin, but in a state of sin His perfection becomes painful to us, and incompatible with our current state. For a person existing in time it appears like the reaction is different, but his perfection is immutable

>>81283174
Yes. Read St. Paul, he's based.

>>81283198
>Agnosticism is a term for special snowflakes.

Its for fence sitters who are afraid of calling themselves what they actually are
Agnostic atheists

>>81279031
Are muslims sigmatised? Y/n?

>>81283234
So God doesn't love everybody then?

>>81283177
>>81283179
Butthurt unelectfags detected

>>81283128
No, people's inability to submit and obey constituted authority is the issue there, an issue atheism exacerbates, rather than alleviates.

>>81283198
>>81283237
You are wrong, virgins.

>>81283259

Yes, but they're also partly immunized to criticism.

>>81283334
Well theres your answer why muslims get a pass dummy

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>>81283091
>>81283311
>mfw I share a board with agnostic fucking shits

>>81283263
No.
Malachi 1:2-3

>>81283311
>i dont have an active belief in god
>but im not an atheist i swear!

>>81283064
God gets mad at the stupid shit we do

Kinda like your dad

>>81283198

>the absence of belief in the existence of deities

Which is a position unsupported by logic. There is no logical distinction that can be made between the absence of belief in something's existence and the belief in something's absence.

>>81283447
So what causes God to love someone?

>There is no logical distinction that can be made between the absence of belief in something's existence and the belief in something's absence

lol
>ill believe it when I see empiracal evidence
>ill never believe it no matter what evidence I see

Now that wasnt so hard was it?

>>81283492
So? How's that unsupported by logic?

>>81283459
I'm not an agnostic, but I can recognise that agnosticism is a distinct position. To deny it is in the realm of the masturbator.

>>81283521
God decides on his own. It's entirely a function of his will.

>>81283459

To be an atheist you have to have an active disbelief in God. Having no active belief in either direction is called agnosticism, it isn't hard to comprehend.

Atheists like to pretend that agnostics are atheists too, by inventing new definitions for themselves that hide the fact that they don't have logic or objective evidence on their side either.

You know it's true but you're too afraid to leave the herd and get mocked for admitting ignorance.

>>81283604
> To deny it is in the realm of the masturbator
what did he mean by this?

>>81283623
>randomly "deciding" to ""love"" someone, off no basis whatsoever
Contradicts Malachi 1:2-3 there, lad.

>>81283631
>implying I want to be associated with softcore christfags

>>81283648
I mean you have to be a loser to be so thirsty for validation.

>>81283387
>muslims get a pass dummy
>I hate religion
>but one gets a pass because they are brown

>>81282183
Dept of Ed does little to decide how schools actually run, it's mostly grant money to build schools and for retards/special needs.

>>81283521
God loves everyone, dude.
That's why he sent Jesus to die for all of mankind - past, present and future.

Sin introduced death, Jesus countered that by introducing eternal life.

>>81283631
Its not hard to understand the terms theist/atheist and gnostic/agnostic

The whole position of agnostic atheists is "I dont know".
The only people trying to twist, turn, and throw out long standing philosophical definitions are christfags trying to redefine what atheism is. Its easier to browbeat people when you change definitions and put them in a corner.

>>81283668
>God's own will is random
God's will is the farthest thing imaginable from random. God's will is the most steadily fixed thing in the universe.

>>81283771
This. Literally the basis of all orthodox christianity (can't speak of evangelicals). God makes Christ's sacrifice available to all people at all points up until their death.

>>81283778
This anon gets it.

>>81283771
>>81283789
I know, I'm playing devil's advocate against Calvinism.

>>81283789
Yes. God's plan is the opposite of random. WhenAdam sinned, he already knew he was going to send Jesus to rectify that. His plan is for all of mankind to be with him for eternity.

Theif on the cross, "Today you wil be with me in paradise"

God's plans are for you to prosper over this world.

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>>81282931
I dont HATE god

>>81283789
so what if god wills for me to get dubs?

>>81283843
Calvism is completely NOT of God. It's pretty much a doctrine of man.

>>81283878
Anon kek is the god of dubs not god.

>>81283849
>His plan is for all of mankind
[citation needed]

>>81283902
wtf I hate god now

>>81283878
Then you would have gotten dubbs. But he didn't and you failed.

>>81281328
>It's ok as long as the black has accepted Jesus Christ as his personal slaver.

FTFY

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>>81283849
why would you want a plan for mankind
we're fucking horrible creatures

>>81283566
>>81283594

>Person A: I'll believe X when I see Y
>Person B: I'll never believe X

In both cases, both people actively disbelieve that X exists, although person A is willing to believe once Y is also shown to exist.

Since, in this case, Y can never be provided, because by definition God exists outside of the realm of physical, empirical evidence, person A and person B will always have identical beliefs.

Whether or not you think that it's "cheating" to insist that evidence of God can never be physically provided because of the immaterial nature of God, that doesn't change that an immaterial, metaphysical being has always been the topic in this particular millennia-long argument, and person A is still going to forever be claiming that God doesn't exist despite lacking any evidence to support their claim, just like person B.

>>81283912
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son to die for us"

>>81283882
Amen.

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>>81283849
was getting caught part of his plan?

Please G-d give me dubs or I won't believe in you. If you give me dubs, I'll be a christfag forever I swear.

>the very existence of these movies perfectly demonstrates exactly what Nietzsche meant by his original quote
How ironic.

>>81283959
Actually that's only because sin is passed down through man. Every man is born with sin. However, when you beleive inChrist - his sacrifice covers you with his redeeming blood.

Man was initially "horrible", it's sin that's horrible.

put it like this - if someone had cancer, would you hate the person who had cancer?no.

Sin is a spiritual cancer. That's all.

>>81283983
So questioning an unsubstantiated claim is illogical now?

>>81283993
>to die for us
That's not what it says though.

>For God so loveth the world, that he hath given his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Salvation is restricted to those who believe.

>>81284054
*man was NOT initially "horrible" sorry. Typo.

>>81284044
atheists BTFO

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>>81284044
God's will!

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The point of this movie is that Christians want to pretend they're oppressed while simultaneously holding all the power. But then you take a step back and realize that this is pretty much what the Jews and feminists have been successfully accomplishing for decades. And then you just hate everyone.

If dubs god is real and I get a blowjob for my girthday

>>81284076
Obviously I was paraphrasing.BUt thanks for clarifying.

So, we are talking about a much bigger thing here.

Now, it's like - believe inJesus otherwise I will send you to Hell.

It's more like, this world is screwed because of sin but I have made an escape from it if you just believe Jesus is Lord.

Unfortunately, when GOd created man - Lucifer was already on the Earth and he has been tryng to f--- with God's creation from the start.

But was God not going to make man because a rebellious angel decidided to do that?Of course not. It's like if you had a company and your top employee rebelled against you and you went ahead and created someting great like a cure for cancer but he tries to stop it. Would you stop that cure?No.

>>81284076
I learnt in confirmation-class that you can always decide to love God and go upstairs even when you are already dead.

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>>81279351
Why are you guys so fucking shit at this? You've basically just created another version of pic related and that was already fucking terrible, is it really so hard to make insulting images competently? This >>81279159 is a million times better, although that's not saying much.

>>81284044
Enjoy Heaven, anon.

>>81284200
>>81284044
fuck is this a sign? could it be that god is real after all?

>>81284227
>god is shitposting on late night /tv/

>>81281126
Technically it's a memeplex, specific parts of Christianity (such as the resurrection) could be called memes.

>>81284174
But thankfully, God also sent the Holy Spirit to work on this world which is why there are so many great things here.

So, think of God as the manager, Jesus as the Boss and the Holy Ghost as the worker.

Satan tried to screw over God's creation but ITHAS always backfired on him.

>>81281369
>perhaps they were wondering why you'd give a man free will before throwing them into a lake of fire for all eternity for daring to exercise it?

>>81284269
9/10

>>81283778

If the agnostic atheist says "I don't know", then so does the agnostic theist.

If they both have the same beliefs, why differentiate them?

They are just all "agnostics", with atheists on one side of them, and theists on the other.

The only reason to invent terms like "agnostic atheist" is to try and imply that atheism has the same philosophical strength behind is position that agnosticism does.

Also, yours is by far the more recent definition of agnostic. In philosophy, the terms "gnostic" and "gnosis" already have very specific meaning, and are only tangentially related to the topic at hand. The two axis-system you're framing your position in is a very new invention.

how many of you ITT are actually devout

>>81284269

Well, free will was given to use right. Not to rebel. It's like your father giving you his car, would you go and race with it? Get into an accident?

>>81284309
I'm seriously considering becoming a christian after I got dubs.

>>81284062

No, but it is also agnosticism.

Atheism is making an unsubstantiated claim in response to a different unsubstantiated claim.

>>81282488
>The spread of Christianity happened because it gave people a better way to live and a better account of themselves and their place in the world than the pagan faiths it displaced.
No it spread mostly because Constantine made it the state religion of one of the largest and most influential empires in human history.

>>81284339
Make us proud, bubbo.

>>81282620
>it wasn't REAL Christianity

>Select all images that match the label: helicopter
Well that was spooky.

>>81284305
>If they both have the same beliefs, why differentiate them?

Because they don't have the same beliefs you imbecile.

>>81284189
Jesus told you.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in the hour that ye think not, will the Son of man come.
45 Who then is a faithful servant and wise, whom his master hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his master when he cometh, shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My master doth defer his coming,
49 And begin to smite his fellows, and to eat, and to drink with the drunken,
50 That servant’s master will come in a day, when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And will cut him off, and give him his portion with hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

>>81284328
It's more like your father pulling a gun on you and saying you're free to not suck his dick but he's going to shoot you if you don't.

>>81284352
>Atheism is making an unsubstantiated claim

lol

"no"

>>81282854
Agnosticism is an intellectually dishonest position for people to claim to take in order to protect themselves from any backlash they might get for choosing to take a position, it's pathetic.

>do you believe in god or not?
>I just don't know man
>so you don't believe then
>NAH MAN IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT PLEASE I'M NOT AN ATHEIST!
Pathetic.

>>81284339
You promised. What I look forward to is you reporting back with what the minister said when you told him that you got dubs and therefore converted. In fact, I would use the reaction to the story of your dubs to decide which church to join. Anyone who plays up the miracle is /ourpastor/

>>81284309

I came to Jesus in 2013. I read the whole Bible and after watching Ian McCormack's testimony (check it out - he actually died... youtube it), I believed. Once I read the Bible, I got very attacked and started to see demons in night terrors and dreams.

Satan was pissed off. But I got baptized and gave my life to Christ. I use the Internet to tell my testimony as to why I believe because I came from one of the heaviest things ever. Shit was so bad.

Am I a "good" or "perfect"Christian?Heck no. But I always ask God for his amazing grace. I am happy to just have God as my Spiritual Father.

God is real, on all our death beds, anon, just ask Jesus into your life...

There is a Heaven and paradise that awaits from you.

I researched a lot about Christ - real name "Joshua" if translated from English - or Yeshua and researched everything - from the pharisees to ancient Israel.

So, the Old testament is basically a shadow or an empty box - every story there is to show the coming of a saviour.

The New Testament - is basically the present inside of the thing that fills the shadow.

Read the Bible with an open mind. You will be amazed.

Not all of us Christian are good two shoes. I've backslid some times but in the end, I realized all I'm doing is letting sin control my life.

Sin is death. God is life.(even after you pass from this physical realm/body to your spiritual one)

>>81284339
Why not, you probably are pretty okay person already, won't have change much in your life. Just whenever you do something good think, "Well God, if you're real, here ya go, this is for you." or if something good happens, think "Well, if you're real, thanks, I guess."

>>81284477
>>81284400
>>81284200
>>81284144

It's like a great awakening in here.

Hay, wanna catch sum pureflix and chill?

>>81284400
>>81284477
I'm a christian now, may I have my dubs?

>>81283015
Why couldn't he just write theist tears on the mug in reality, how hard would that be? That photoshop looks terrible.

>>81284477
>>81284493
>>81284400
You seem alright anons. Go to church on Sunday.

>>81284427

Yeah, it's not that. That's basically Satan. Satan wants you think that God is some dictator when all he is - is a loving Father.

Satan has held that lie over so many people for so long.

That God is tyrant
That God hates you
That God hates anyone who doesn't believe

That's not God, bro, that's the Devil's lies and that's how he operates.

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>>81284305
>If the agnostic atheist says "I don't know", then so does the agnostic theist.

That was thrown in as reference to your being afraid of "ignorance". Its ironic because the whole position is saying we have no way of knowing and we embrace ignorance instead of choosing blind faith.

Gnostic and agnostic refer to whether you know something to be true or not
Theist and atheist refer to an active belief in god.

The common but wrong definition of agnostic just doesnt make sense. There is no in between, do you actively believe in a god or do you not? If you are a fence sitter then some days you do some days you dont, but there is only 2 options you flip flop.

Do you know beyond a doubt god is real? Do you just have faith that god is real?

It takes all the grey area out of stuff

>>81283091
>However, religion has a basis in systems of strong morality that have been tested over millennia and worked
>that have been tested over millennia and worked
>and worked
>and worked

Are we talking about a different planet?

>>81284427
no its like your father telling you, you can cross the road but you should really wait for the crossing signal, you don't have to but you should, your call

>>81284481
this post made me want to watch a LOT of gangbang porn

>>81284352
do you have the poster of the kid saying god is real because you can't prove he isn't?

>>81283492
>There is no logical distinction that can be made between the absence of belief in something's existence and the belief in something's absence.
You're an idiot, just like all "agnostics".

>>81284600

So I struggle with porn too.

Porn is empty.

Why not get a real girlfriend or a wife?

I've always felt a real emptyness after it. It's a sad life living like that.

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>>81278183
Melissa Joan Hart, wishes her body were that good in shape.

>>81284597
Anon seems to think those systems of morality didn't exist until Christianity came around. It's not even the oldest religion for fuck's sake.

>>81283604
So how exactly does not being sure about whether or not god exists not count as a form of not having an active belief in god? Do agnostics believe in god or not? There's only two answers, whatever rationale you have for your answer is irrelevant.

>>81284666
>666
trips of the beast

>>81284362
Yes its all Constantine's fault, the man who was succeeded by a pagan emperor. The one who did not fully convert until his death bed
Christianity was not the state religion in Constatine's time, it was merely accepted and promoted in contrast to Diocletian

>>81284666
thanks Satan
>satan confirmed feminist

>>81284666
hail satan!

>>81283983
>actively disbelieve

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>>81284666
>666
Nice try satan, Im gonna make it EXTRA nasty now

>>81279148
When they fucking celebrate after watching a man fucking die, I just about died myself.

>>81284588
So you say but this is all bad press coming from god himself. Everything we know about satan is told by god, why can't we have his version of the story?

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>>81284752
You sound like one sick motherfucker.

>>81284809
>overwatch
and now my erection is gone
fuck you

>>81284305
>If they both have the same beliefs, why differentiate them?
But they don't have the same beliefs, they just have the same level of certainty in their knowledge that has led them to their separate beliefs.

>The only reason to invent terms like "agnostic atheist" is to try and imply that atheism has the same philosophical strength behind is position that agnosticism does.
Explain your "reasoning".

>>81284729

I actually believe and confess Jesus is Lord so the 666 trips - very superstitious and that Jesus Christ came in the flesh so if I was Satan - yea, I could not say that at all. ;)

I just laughed whenI saw those trips.

>>81284588
>>81284599
what is up with all the christfags getting dubs? Is god real and you're not telling us?

>>81280138
>Almost

It is a conceptual truth (or, so to speak, true by definition) that God is a being than which none greater can be imagined (that is, the greatest possible being that can be imagined).
God exists as an idea in the mind.
A being that exists as an idea in the mind and in reality is, other things being equal, greater than a being that exists only as an idea in the mind.
Thus, if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then we can imagine something that is greater than God (that is, a greatest possible being that does exist).
But we cannot imagine something that is greater than God (for it is a contradiction to suppose that we can imagine a being greater than the greatest possible being that can be imagined.)
Therefore, God exists.

>>81284752
I recommend

Virgin loses faith in Jesus after gangbang

>>81284309
I'd like to be, but all the churches here are awful. I just do private studies and devotions as of now.

>>81284879
>Virgin loses faith in Jesus after gangbang
holy fuck it's real

>>81284328
Isn't rebelling using your free will, isn't that the only way you could use your free will? If all I'm supposed to do is just mindlessly obey god why even bother giving me a mind? It just seems cruel.

>>81284844
he's obviously fucking with satan, just imagine the poor fucker sitting their trying to unwind and shit post, and every one of his posts are 666

>>81284869
>nothing greater than God

You've never heard the "who created God," argument?

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>he doesnt pray to Chaos

>>81284869
Kant already btfo the ontological argument

See the greatest work in philosophy:

Critique of Pure Reason

>>81284918
you never heard the rebuttle
>who created god
nothing he is

>>81284908
Fantastic fap material, but you'll probably feel guilty afterwards. The waterboarding part is hilarious

>>81284869
what if I can imagine a being greater than god?

>>81284949
That's not a rebuttle

>>81284974
but u can't

>>81284800

You can see his story when he tests Job, he coms up to God and wagers a bet that he can make Job curse him. Satan is very proud. So proud that he still believes that he can defeat God - that's how proud he is.

Lucifer was one of the most beautiful angels ever. He had every ruby, diamond, plated on his chest and he was the master of music. His job was to lead the angels into worship for God.

He was also very wise, intelligent but once he became proud of himself. He said that - he wanted to overthrow God and sit on that the mountain above him.

Imagine your creation saying someting like that.

Satan's story is detailed well.

If Satan's story wasn't true then he wouldn't be described as a beautiful angel. Once he turned, he led a 1/3 of angels with him and there was a huge war in Heaven where Lucifer - I guess being departed from the source, was described as a great dragon.

So there was no place inHeaven for him, Michael threw him down to Earth and he is on the Earth right now, probably trying to manipulate places like North Korea or some other country to start World War III. Or trying to attack a preacher for exposing him.

The biggest lie wasn't that the devil never existed, the biggest lie ever was the devil trying to decieve people into believing he was God.

>>81284918
Who said God was created?

>>81284588
Why did god even create satan if all he ever does is just fuck things up? Why doesn't he just fucking kill him?

>Satan has held that lie over so many people for so long.

>That God is tyrant
>That God hates you
>That God hates anyone who doesn't believe

>That's not God, bro, that's the Devil's lies and that's how he operates.

You're making satan sound like the russian hackers of Christian theology, how is god not a tyrant? He didn't win any election and there are no limits whatsoever on his power a fact which he abuses constantly.

>>81285000
>everything has a creator

>>81284983
rebuttle isn't even a word so it can be w/e the fuck I want tbph

>>81284950
thanks anon

>>81284974
How great can God be if he created brown people and jews?

>>81285000
Because nothing can materialise by itself

>>81285023
no one thing doesn't only one though

>>81284869
This is a worse argument for god existing then jesus appearing on a potato chip.

>>81285065
>god has always just been here
>yet people get maniacal when people say that existence could have always just been here

>>81285031
>God doesn't have a creator because hurr durr God

This is not a logically consistent argument

>>81284685
It is the only correct one.

>Because nothing can materialise
it always was and always will be, tough concept I know but their was never a before god. lovecraft actually does this too the elder gods always were and always will be, I think the hindus have a similar concept

>>81284907
Check out Joseph Prince online, the Lord really uses him.

>>81284915
rebelling is like - your father sayng, son, watch out for those cars and you rebel - cross the road and get hit by a car.

You can rebel if you want, it's up to you but God is saying that rebellion just leads to the above.

Death. Why would you want to rebel so much?

All God wants to do is help you and look after you, he doesn't want any harm to come to you. Rebellion is like not listening to advise as you jump out of a plane witha parachute and don't pull the string.

That's all rebellion is - in a nutshell.

God didn't want to create robots. He wanted to created living physical beings, that can love him... or not.

>>81284942
Kek fucking Kant is your greatest work for philosophy
I just posted the argument for yous but that is sad if you think that is the best

>>81285065
>no one thing doesn't
>accept this one thing

k...

>>81285110
>sand nigger cuck shit
>correct

>>81285023
Everything that begins to exist has a creator. God didn't begin to exist (has always been), therefore He wasn't created.

>>81285049
God, in essence, isn't material

>>81284997
Why did god create such an absurdly flawed creation like that though, why put all that pride into him in the first place? And why didn't he put those rogue angels the fuck down the moment they got out of line instead of letting them screw over humanity for all this time,can he not take them? He's meant to be impotent! Why are we sentenced to suffer for all this time because of god's fuck up that he refuses to correct?

>>81285071
And yet your rebuttal will amuse me for eternity

>>81285089
>>81285094
see >>81285116
also idk whos freaking out at the concept of some form of matter always existing too,
>the earth was void and without form
or something like that, doesn't mean their was nothing their at all

>>81285116
It's literally chicken or egg scenario, in which there can be no answer, so why does it matter?

>>81285119
Joseph Prince isn't half bad, but I'm kind of uneasy about TV evangelists.

>>81284997
>lucy was a fucking faggot who thought he was better than me so me and my homies beat the shit out of him and his bitch ass friends and now he lives in the world I have absolute control over and is the reason of everything bad happening over there
>t. God
>P.S. Everything I say is true, because I say so. If you disagree I'll have you join lucy's harem of ladybois

>>81285128
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason is the most influential. I can tell you don't know anything about philosophy.

>>81285094
I can make you angry

>>81285171
Not an argument

>>81285135
What is essence? Where is it?

>>81285158
exactly, welcome to agnosticism its pretty comfy

>>81285191
Your other post wasn't an argument either wtf is this

>>81285197
>Asking "where" something non-material is

>>81285135
When did he begin to exist? Always isn't an answer, as "always" isn't quantifiable.

>>81285187
Gods not real

>>81285212
I'm not the same anon, sorry lad

>>81285119
But god created us, he gave us the ability to rebel in the first place, why did he do that if all it can ever lead to is suffering, why go out of your way to bring more suffering into the world like that? It's like if we built a robot that explodes when it gets wet for no reason and then we blame the robots for when they explode because "hey they should've kept themselves dry, we warned them". If all he wants is endless obedience why didn't he create mindless automaton humans, what was the point of free will, it gets him off?

>>81285171
I see you cant even argue
Try to keep a single premise at least

>>81285221
>non-material exists because I say so
>you have to believe because I say so

Oh yeah, Cucktianity is how the jews control the goyim. All the nonsensical shit suddenly makes sense

>>81285198
>welcome to agnosticism its pretty comfy

Thats not at all the same thing

>Jewish Fairy Tales Are Real 2
yep still not

>>81285254
What is the most influential philosophy book you faggot

>>81285238
Time is dependent upon space and matter, if there is no space and matter, there is no time.

>>81285135
>God didn't begin to exist (has always been)

How do you know?

>>81285238
Gods beyond logic

>>81285296
>Jewish Fairy Tales Are Real 2

They threw out the jewish fairy tales with the new covenant

>>81285238
>when did he begin
always, look up eternal return of some idea on the theory

>>81285149
*he's meant to be omnipotent

>>81284869
>God exists because we are too stupid to come up with a better explanation

Sounds about right.

>>81285149

Would you believe at one point that God loved Lucifer and Lucifer loved God? Pride did not come from God.

There was no such thing until Lucifer basically fell in love with all his wisdom, strength, stamina, speed, etc.

Lucifer thought he was the shit.

Why doesn't God destroy him?He is, on an appointed day. He is going to be thrown into a lake of fire.

You have to realise - 1000 years forGod is like 1 day.

So, for God - his appointed end time is coming.

Why doesn't he just kill him?Maybe God is merciful? But he's already set the date and God doesn't just let Satan do whatever he wants. There's a leash on him.

These questions - you might have to look up about.

I also think why doesn't God just kill Lucifer and I'm a Christian.

Remember though, love is God and God is love.

That's who God ultimately is - Love. Tangible love.

If love just killed one of his creations like that - I don't think that would be just, don't you think? Lucifer is basically on deathrow though.

>>81285289
Does logic exist?
And you don't have to believe anything I say if you don't want to. You live your own life your way, bruh.

Nice rant though. Shame it's wrong.

>>81285305
Your replying to the wrong anon retard
And cant even be consistent, influential is not best dumb ass

>>81285291
yea it is

>>81285305
Perhaps it is, okay.

>>81285318
Hypothetically, if He does exist, it would be from eternity.

>>81285343
An amazing rebuttal

>>81285309
Show me where space and matter do not exist

>>81285319
Then we're beyond logic, because (((God))) made us in his image. We are the Gods

>>81285384
>Hypothetically, if He does exist, it would be from eternity.

What are you basing that on?

>>81285357
I equate influential and best. Suck me.

Name your book and let me judge you.

Give me your opinion of the most influential philosophy book and the best philosophy book.

>>81285366
Belief whether there is a god or not is nothing like a chicken and the egg scenario.

You know deep down inside which way you lean. The question only has 2 answers, why is it "comfy" to lie to yourself?

>>81285399
It took this long to realize we are beyond logic?

>>81285419
lol, you think that 4 axis bullshit is real, goddamn kids these days are dumb

>>81285276
God wants us to love Him, He wants us to freely choose to love Him, to express it as an act of our will.

>Why not compel us to love him

because, is love compelled better for either involved? Of course not. Willing loving someone is infinitely more valuable.

>But free will dictates some will not love God.

Fine, but why should those who willing choose to love God be punished because others choose not to? By stripping free will from humanity for the sake of those who error, you are diminishing the potential relationship of the successful. You stripping the value from those who actually earn their reward, to benefit those who error. Hardly fair

>>81285351
Does harry potter exist, do the avengers exist?
God is at the same level of existence than the dullest franchise and capeshit

>>81285419
>The question only has 2 answers
You forgot the "no comment" response. "Agnostics" are pretty much the exact same as scumbag politicians who avoid difficult questions by stonewalling with bullshit.

>>81285399
>Show me where space and matter do not exist
Centre of black holes.

>>81285406
The definition of God, in the Abrahamic sense.

>>81285331
>eternal

What about the time before it began? Like 1 second?

>>81285351
Logic is the only thing that exists. Things can exist that we can not see, galaxies trillions of miles away, molecules. What can not be seen through any filter, simply does not exist.

>>81285343
kek

>>81282931
>>81283054
>>81283122

I love Calvanists, you're the only Christians that make a lick of sense.

>>81283091
>My arbitrary definition of a word makes anyone who claims that label look stupid even though, basically none of them accept my definition of atheist.

>>81283198
I don't think the term agnostic is incompatible with atheist or theist. It's best fit is a modifier. A person who believes in a deity but is uncertain would be an agnostic theist while someone who doesn't believe in a deity but isn't certain is an agnostic atheist.

>>81285446
>personal insults instead of truthfully answering a question

>>81285471
>You forgot the "no comment" response

The no comment response doesnt change the fact that there are only 2 answers to the question.
Do you actively believe in a god or not?

Its really not hard to answer, but people are just too scared.

>>81285466
No one has ever said that Harry Potter or the Avengers were real, we can confirm without doubt that they were made up by authors. Bad analogy, bruh.

>>81285483
You can't see logic, though. Only the application of it.

>>81285433
It tooky you this long to stop believing in magic jewish sky man?

>>81285475
So God lives inside of black holes?

>>81285471
really hate those faggots, fucking commit to something you nigger

>>81285471
or ya know just don't really care, since its impossible to prove either way you retarded faggots, arguing about either the existence or non-existence of something unprovable is fucking stupid and all agnostics are laughing at both of you

>>81285539
And that therein is God. He only exists in what we accomplish

>>81285449
Don't you think threatening someone with burning in hell for all eternity for not loving them is compelling them to love you? If you told your partner they had to keep on loving you or you'd throw them through a window that would not only be considered compelling them to love you you'd go to jail for it. God is nothing but a domestic abuser.

>>81285540
Are you familiar with Sagan's Flatland? God sort of functions that way to us. He is here, there and everywhere. He transcends our plane.

>>81285503
>jew goatherders aren't real people
go back to /pol/

>>81285483
>like 1 second
your still not wrapping your head around this
>is a concept that the universe and all existence and energy has been recurring, and will continue to recur, in a self-similar form an infinite number of times across infinite time or space

>>81285415
Best would be nicomachean ethics
Influence would obviously be any of Plato's writing
I do like Critique of Pure Reason but its greatest success if filling out other failures of philosophy
Influence terms it gets pretty rapidly dismissed by everyone and the rest of the Continentals will bitch about Plato making him more influential