Were the Mon Calamari like, a race of admirals or something?

Cruise ship builders.

They're ocean people. It stands to reason they have a strong naval tradition, so they have a stock of very capable aeronautical officers.

>>81270984
>Cruise ship builders
>strong naval tradition

how does that even work? they live under water

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The rebels use a lot of Mon Cala ships

>>81271134
It gets worse actually: >>>/sci/8803789

>>81271134
That would mean they have more experience historically with three-dimensional combat environments, which would translate easier to warfare in space.

>>81271134
They're clearly amphibious, hence admiral ackbar not being in a fish tank on home one.

>>81270966
the logical assumption would be that mon calimari were early backers of the rebellion, and thus have simply been there long enough to rank up.

>>81270966

how do the mon calamari feel about being named after food made from terran animals that they resemble?

>>81271204
In clone wars cartoon they were living in underwater cities on a planet competely covered by the ocean

>>81271327
wtf that makes no sense

>>81271256
most of Rebel ships were also provided by them, so it's logical that they command their own ships

They were jews who were into building giant cruise liner spaceships to get credits from rich galactic fucks. Their infrastructure to build these craft were useful in converting to a wartime cruiser production, and their experience in navigation gave them advantageous positions in the Rebel Alliance because of this. Basically, they were often admirals because they had the ships and the experience. Most of the Rebel Generals were defected Imperial officers, too (experience).

>>81271327
The planet had a handful of small islands constituting it's total landmass. Most of the population lives under water, but there are floating cities, and cities build on the islands.

They were famous ship builders in the galaxy, but instead of warships they were more like luxury liners. When they joined the rebellion they brought their fleet and shipyards to the other side which was a huge step towards legitimizing the rebellion as a military threat. The mon calamari leveraged that into influence in the political machine and navy of the rebellion.
Ackbar was also a former servant of Tarkin so he had a lot of insight on imperial military doctrine from the guy who helped to define most of it.
That's all in the old EU anyways, who the fuck knows anymore.

>>81271058

>spaceship

>ocean

>>81270966
They were the race that came with the big ships to the rebels

>>81271985
What does reddit spacing mean?

>>81272066







this

>>81271058
>>81271197
>>81271256

I don't really care about some gay autistic extended universe explanation. I guess I'm more questioning the filmmakers' decision to copy Return of the Jedi. If you're going to do the same thing, why not literally bring Admiral Ackbar back? Rogue One only takes place like 4 years before ROTJ. But why not do something new anyway, a different species at least? It seems like they did the worst possible thing. I can't even think of another movie to compare it to because it's so retarded.

>>81272146
Why?

>>81272066
From observation, it means when a post is written so it has a very short phrase, followed by a linebreak, then an empty line, then a new line to start the next. I don't know what it has to do with reddit though.

>>81272194
>a different species at least?
Why?
They were calamari ships, why have a non calamari captain?

>>81271985

i've been posting on 4chan since 2006 and i've always used double-spacing, people didn't start saying it was a "reddit" thing until a couple years ago, if you weren't a newfag you'd know it used to be the norm on here

>>81272231
Because its a very identifiable trademark of fucking tourists that is to new to post.

>>81272282
Reddit

>>81272282
>i've been posting on 4chan since 2006 and i've always used double-spacing, people didn't start saying it was a "reddit" thing until a couple years ago,
Same.
It is is weird to suddenly get called new or reddit for doing something you've done for over a decade.

>>81272282
My dad works for nintendo.

>>81272297
How do you know that?

>>81272275

You're aware that the people who make a film can control all aspects of it, right? It's not like a half-finished script fell out of the sky and specified the kind of spaceships they had to use and they had to just deal with it.

>>81272194
But Anon, there aren't so many species in the rebellion. It's only humans, Chewbacca and in RotJ there are Sullustans and MonCals.
What other Race could be there supporting the Rebel Fleet?
The Rebellion is as much a human privilege organisation as the empire. This is just about leaders of core planets like Mon Mothma and Bail Organa losing power after the rise of palpatine. They don't care for muh aliens.
It makes complete sense to have another Mon Calamari being in charge on a Mon Calamari Cruiser (which is pretty much the only kind lf big cruiser the rebellion has had)

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A reminder they share the same planet as these guys.

>>81272369
Because I've been here all summer, you insufferable cunt.

>>81272399

NOT CANON! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>81272399
Quarren are so damn ugly fuckers.

>>81272297

imagine being such a fucking loser that you refer to people who don't waste their entire lives on 4chan as "fucking tourists"

just imagine your 10 year old self looking into the future and seeing what you just posted. seeing what you've become. would you have killed yourself?

it's never too late to do the right thing.

>>81272373
The story takes place in a familiar universe where it is already known
You'd only be a speshul snowflake by not going with calamari ships for bigger ships for the rebels, and you'd be a speshul princess snowflake by going a step further and have a non calamari in a calamari vessel during a rebel fight.

They didn't need to use tie fighters either.
It would be retarded and not make any sense in the setting for the empire not to use tie fighters though.

>>81272463
Yes it is. The clone wars is canon and they have an episode about that conflict

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>>81272194

>>81272396

re-read the first sentence of the post you replied to

>>81272401
Maybe you should go back

>>81272463
There was civil war between them shown in Lucas' Clone Wars

>>81271290
´coz SW was many many years ago in a different galaxy anon.

>>81272066
It's an autistic 4+4chan meme

>>81272463
Erm, they have ORIGINAL action figures, anonkun. Why you so new?

>>81271290

lol the italian word for squid (the animal) is calamaro, dumbass

>>81272502

99% of people don't give a fuck about any of the gay shit you just said. i'd say it's pretty standard for science fiction films to innovate visually and introduce new forms of technology and spacecraft.

>>81270966
Ship builders and somewhat competent commanders.

>>81272537
This has nothing to do with autistic explanations. It is just coherent with the other movies to have Mon Calamari as the Rebels with the big ships.
Why would there be an alien race we never see again fighting in three movies?!

>>81272644
And surely tons of people were sad that fishheaded alien were in the mon calamari cruiser.

That really buttrustled the masses.

>>81272194
so you sell another calamari puppet that is not Admiral Itsatrap Allahkbar

>>81272644
>how does coherent world-building work?
>how do I make my fantasy world believable?

>>81272718

>This has nothing to do with autistic explanations. It is just coherent with the other movies to have Mon Calamari as the Rebels with the big ships.

It is autistic. If instead of "Admiral Raddus" it was a character of another species, the only people who would've had a problem with it would've been autistic faggots like you.

>Why would there be an alien race we never see again fighting in three movies?!

...What? It could've been a human. Are you retarded?

>>81270966
They're fish, so they think better in the 3d environment that is space

>>81270966
>calamari
>fish people

You guys freak out about Sheev and Snoke, but Lucas has always been a retard when it comes to naming stuff. It only seems like it's gotten worse because we grew up with all the goofy names from the OT.

>>81272194
>why not literally bring Admiral Ackbar back?

Because Admiral Raddus gets captured by Vader and, if not killed by him directly, gets put aboard the Death Star and surely dies there.

>>81272828
Imagine this anon watching lotr the two towers
>"why is boromir still dead? everyone loved him, just bring him back, no you don't need to explain it, who cares about those gay books"
>"they have more money now, they should cast someone better looking for Samwise now"
>"everyone who isn't me is autistic and gay and ruins everything"

>>81272786

"This makes no sense. They're fighting above Scarif and the guy commanding the other spaceships DOESN'T look or sound like Admiral Ackbar, the beloved character from that movie that came out 33 years ago. THIS IS INCOHERENT. I NEED MON CALAMARI ADMIRALS. Everything else in this fantastical movie has had 100% verisimilitude, but this is UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE."

>>81272828
Raddus being Mon Calamari makes complete sense. You are sperging out because it is not some new cool alien species.
And how is him being a human any more creative?
Are you retarded?

>>81272950
>Because Admiral Raddus gets captured by Vader and, if not killed by him directly, gets put aboard the Death Star and surely dies there.

That happened in THIS MOVIE. It's not something the writers had no choice but to deal with or something. Again, the scripts don't fall out of the sky. I hope you're the same person who I replied to earlier about this, or else this board is fucking dumb.

>>81272991

Imagine this anon actually replying to what I said

>>81273060
>why didn't they make the movie completely different instead of having this guy be a certain race even though there literally nothing wrong with the way it is REEEE

>>81273060
>or else this board is fucking dumb.
Maybe you're right.
You should try arguing this on other forums.
See how well you manage.

>>81273104

If Episode I had Ewoks instead of Gungans, would you say there was "literally nothing wrong with it"?

>>81273171
Space is a lot bigger than Endor anon.

>>81273060
Edwards said he didn't use Ackbar because JJ already did in tfa.
Are you the same guy who wanted the admiral being something "new"? Because him being Ackbar would be the opposite.

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>>81272912

That's nothing compared to prequel era.

> Elan Sleazebaggano
> General Grievous
> Darth Sidious (insidious)
> Count Dooku (yes, literally dookie)

OT names like "Greedo" sound toned down.

And this shows what Lucas always thought of these films. There was no great original vision, there was no epic mythos, the hero's journey was never more than a framing device and the intelligence in these movies was aimed at children.

>>81273054

You didn't say anything.

>>81273171
I would question why episode one would take place on endor, a seemingly remote and unimportant planet until rotj. What doesn't seem odd is why a race that clearly exists at a prominent place in the rebel hierarchy would be part of the rebel hierarchy.

>>81273198

I'll take that as a no.

>>81273223

>Are you the same guy who wanted the admiral being something "new"? Because him being Ackbar would be the opposite.

No shit.

>>81273171
Do you actually believe that your arguments are somehow intelligent?

>>81273297
Why don't you stop cherry picking shitposts to respond to and admit that everything you said in your original post was poorly thought through and wrong?

>>81273335

No, I see them as pretty basic, but this thread is full of autists who still can't grasp what I'm attempting to convey.

>>81273246
Pretty much this. The films make it very clear there aren't so many fucking alien allies in the rebellion.
Mon Calamari make perfect sense. Some weird alien we will never see again not so much.

>>81273361

>everything you said in your original post was poorly thought through and wrong

Here's my original post:

>Were the Mon Calamari like, a race of admirals or something?

Please identify the "poorly thought-out and wrong" parts of that post.

Member berries for the oldfags.

>>81273429

>Mon Calamari make perfect sense. Some weird alien we will never see again not so much.

If it had been a different species, would you have really said, "This makes no sense"? Hahahaha

>>81273400
You know that acting retarded is still just retarded and not le epic trolling XD one upvote?

>>81272612
this may be bait, but the plural is calamari

>>81272399
Mind flayers??

>>81273497

Nowhere in this thread have I said or suggested that I was "acting retarded."

>>81273297
>I'll take that as a no.
Wrong.

I'll have to explain the comment.

Ewoks are native to 1 moon in the galaxy.
It would be peculiar to see them anywhere else. Not impossible, but peculiar.

During the time that rogue one and OT takes place the mon calamaris are rebels, so the rebels have their ships on their side. Ships made and flown by mon calamaris.
Their ships are spaceships, so it isn't really a stretch to see them pretty much anywhere in space.
Unlike ewoks.

Which means your comparison with ewoks in Episode 1 and mon calamaris in rogue one is shit.

>>81273447
Yes, they were. They crated the capital ships the Rebels use and have a strong naval tradtition. That was answered almost immediately. If your follow up is "why" then the answer is that everything in the Star Wars universe is stupid like that.

>>81272194
Because star wars is just a commercial for toys and everyone has an ackbar but they don't have this new guy.

>>81273537
You could've fooled everyone else in this thread.

>>81270966
>what should we call these aliens? I want something that's appropriate for squidmen that are vaguely caribbean

>>81273538

Where did I say the Ewoks would be seen anywhere other than Endor?

>>81273599
Why should Episode I play on a moon that has had no significance whatsoever before the building of the shield generator?
The only reason we see Tatooine so often is because it is the home planet of the skywalker family

>>81270966
>Rogue One: A movie so whack, Admiral Ackbar turned black

>>81273537
>Nowhere in this thread have I said or suggested that I was "acting
fair

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>"The females were distinguished from the males by their more prominent chest areas"

>>81273787

>Why should Episode I play on a moon

I never said it should. I made a very simple and easy to understand point, and you sperged out about it for half an hour.

>>81270966
>>81270966
Do you think the Mon Calamari had a strong fishy smell? I don't think I could be friends with one.

OP is an obvious attempt at trolling. Nobody is so stupid. But maybe he is just some turboautist that can't grasp the idea of his opinion being shit

>>81273906
Is the robot chicken special canon? If yes then at least the Quarren smell fishy as fuck

>>81273887
Ewoks on Naboo make no sense, Mon Calamari as amirals on their own ships do.
And you original post was already retarded. How can it be a race of admirals if you can clearly see other mon calamari that are obviously no admirals?

>>81274021
>Is the robot chicken special canon?

Yes.

>>81273980
I like to imagine it's the former for the sake of humanity, but it's probably the latter.

>>81274097

>Ewoks on Naboo make no sense

I'm pretty sure you're not trolling. I wish you were, because I don't want to believe anyone could be this autistic.

>How can it be a race of admirals if you can clearly see other mon calamari that are obviously no admirals?

My question was 100% serious and literal, not rhetorical. Thank you so much for correcting me.

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>>81270966

The rebels are SJW... Mon Calamari add diversity to the ranks and everyone knows diversity is the most important thing to have in an organization.

>>81270966
They were born wearing little admiral uniforms.

>>81272399
>science fiction
>aliens are just humanoids with strange heads
Yawn

>>81272194
>gay autistic extended universe explanation.
Yeah fuck you and every other dick that says this, its not our fault there is like 30 years of books some of us actually read way back that explain shit like this. Not that you need to, most of it is pretty clear just from the movies.

>>81271901
Mostly still true except Acbar being a servant. Mon cals jumped ship and took their cities with them

>>81275176

Nothing from some faggy fucking book can "explain" why these writers are lazy and give us fanservice

>>81276138
It just makes sense in the context of the fucking film you turbosperg.

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>>81276138
Pic related is lazy fanservice

>>81276392
5 second scene in 2 hour movie you faggot

>>81276220

I didn't say it doesn't make sense you utter mouthbreather.

>>81276392

Agreed

>>81276474
your existence is infinitesimal compared to earth's existence yet you still manage to be a complete blight to it somehow.

>>81276547
Took you this long to say something this retarded?

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>>81276612
Took you two minutes and 29 seconds to be this retarded?

>>81276668
Im not the one complaining about a 5 sec cameo. It was literally a blink and miss moment no different than seeing the dejerak board in TFA or seeing the original Jurassic Park in TLW. Explain how this is lazy? It doesn't detract the film or pacing.

>>81276839
>Im not the one complaining about a 5 sec cameo
neither am I?
are you legitimately retarded? did you get your big boy nuggies from mommy today?

>>81272339
My dad works at Wendy's for $37/hour

>>81276905
>jump into discussion to make retarded insults
Are you kidding?

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>>81277092
I'm glad you can finally discern that post.
Took a little while didn't it?

>>81276905
>did you get your big boy nuggies from mommy today?
When did /r9k/ come here?

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>>81277211

>>81273488
>If it had been a different species, would you have really said, "This makes no sense"? Hahahaha

No, but at the same time, it wouldn't have had as strong a connection to the franchise.

You can cut out a lot of iconic Star Wars stuff out of any given Star Wars film. But you have to include some amount of obviously Star Wars shit. A couple aliens, a ship from the previous movies here and there, some references to Jedi and the force, droids, etc.

It's what makes the movie feel like it takes place in the Star Wars universe. People aren't saying that everything has to be referenced, but there's certainly no point in getting upset about references to shit we already knows exists and is iconic to the franchise showing up in the movies in a way that makes sense.

>>81274219
>I'm pretty sure you're not trolling. I wish you were, because I don't want to believe anyone could be this autistic.

Even casuals would notice that Ewoks on Naboo makes no sense as the entire point of the race in the movie from a simple plot perspective is that they were savages removed from the rest of the society on their little moon. That/s not "lore". That's just common sense.

>>81272399

iirc they were always fighting with the squids and at the end of every conflict the mon calamaris always cucked the poor Quarrens in any possible way, they were like Itchy and Scratchy. The quarrens also tried to ask help to the Empire but were then BTFO by a coalition of Mon Calamaris and Rebels. Or maybe it was during the Clone Wars? Anyway the Quarrens are a bunch of losers

>>81273530
Illithids, you racist

>>81277856
>Even casuals would notice that Ewoks on Naboo makes no sense

WHEN THE FUCK DID I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT EWOKS ON NABOO

>>81272263
on Reddit a single line break is parsed the same as a space. You have to have two line breaks for it to appear as a line break in the actual post. This results in...
>one

>two
to achieve the effect of
>one
>two
It's an easy way to spot plebbitors

There are at least 9 books written or planned. You think Syfy wlll allow a show to go on that long?

Don't even bother getting invested.

Even when it was SciFi, the longest shows ever ran for was 4 seasons.

Hope you faggots enjoy reading.

>>81281705
sorry meant to go into the /tv/ memes thread

And Jabbas are a species of powerful gangster really makes you think mmmmmmmm

>>81272194
>But why not do something new anyway, a different species at least?

oh you mean like diversity of aliens?

spotted the jew

>>81270966
Well, two is still not a lot

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Why bully them? they happy and drive ships.

leave them alone

>>81281972
this looks familiar.

>>81282116
pls don't

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>>81277281
On what planet might we find the Ruseman?

>>81281972

>Poor Little Fish Boy 8

>>81281972
>those hands
guess they only gave orders because i dont think they can pilot anything

>>81281972
is ackbar a big guy?

>>81272194
none of them mentioned the EU you autistic idiot

>>81273518
He was pointing out what he knew about the language, it's not bait. Dumb autist poster.

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>>81273089
>>81273243
>gets BTFO
>y-you didn't use a real argument, I win!

>>81281182
holy shit are you telling me their shitty website sees

>one
>two

as

>one>two

??? that's broken as fuck

I was just taking with a friend about this. Why do we see so many admirals in rogue one but never any basic soldiers? No pilots or infantrymen.

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>be george lucas circa 1976
>out dining with friends at a nice seafood restaurant
>"guys I'm working on this film and there is this species of alien with kind of fish looking faces but they walk and talk like humans, I just can't for the life of me figure out what to call them"
>"golly George sounds like quite the conundrum... Have you tried the calamari here? I've heard it's fantastic"
>EUREKA

I still can't believe he called the fish people the calamari, fucking lazy hack

>>81284091
lel

>>81272828
>It's autistic because its autistic
Ironically, the only autist here is (You).

>>81273530
>Mind flayers
the worst part of the game Tbh

>>81272194
you are an idiot, creativity doesn't matter, you just need to make the fans happy
>"I RECOGNISE THE MON CALAMARI RACE! THIS MOVIE WAS MADE FOR NERDS LIKE ME"

>>81272194
>why not literally bring Admiral Ackbar back?

Edwards says in one of the blu-ray extras that he wanted to use Ackbar but he was just in The Force Awakens so he felt like they couldn't use him again and created Raddus who is basically notAckbar.

>>81272399
FUCKING AQUAJEWS
BOIL THE PIKES
SEAWAR NOW

DAY OF THE ROD BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

>>81272194
>I don't really care about some gay autistic extended universe explanation.
then why are you here, this is autism incarnate.

>I guess I'm more questioning the filmmakers' decision to copy Return of the Jedi.
because nostalgiabucks and a serious lack of creativity in nu-lucasfilm. even when george had callbacks, they served a purpose besides nostalgia.

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>>81281972
YOU DON'T GET TO BRING FIREPOWER OF THAT MAGNITUDE

>>81274883
your forgetting hands anon.
HANDS TOO

>>81281972

UH YOU DON'T GET TO BRING IMPERIALS

>>81270966
I liked Rogue One but that was definitely one of the dumber fanservice bits.

>>81282822
70s/80s sci-fi aesthetic was the fucking shit, never gonna see cool spaceship sets like that again unless they are retro

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>>81272494
Fuck off.

>>81286364
They got close to it in Moon, if I recall correctly.

>>81270966
apparently since they werr fighting in the rebelion in rogue one years before the mon cals broke with the empire during rotj. fucking disney hacks. shit movie was fucking garrrrrrrbage.

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>>81286364
>>81286497
pic related. They intentionally tried to recreate the aesthetics of 2001 and others. Especially with the fonts and warning symbols.

>>81272339
my dad works for sony. suck it plebtendo!

I really don't get it. How can you be as autistic as OP and either think that using an already established alien race in a way that makes complete sense and is 100% coherent with what we see in the other movies is uncreative and dumb fanservice because he needs some new cool ayyyys or acting like a plain retard thinking he is trolling somehow?

>>81273488
not the same anon you replied to, but my autism already flared up at U-Wings and TIE-Strikers showing up in this movie.
They never show up again in Ep IV-VI. The explanation for this is, of course, that the rebellion only had like 2 U-Wings that both got shot down and that the Empire never had the need to deploy TIEs that could fly within an atmosphere again (until they do in TFA).

>>81276392
When I saw them, I was really baffled at how big Ponda's head was. I don't remember it being that way in Ep IV.
>>81276474
Sticks out like a sore thumb - adds nothing to the story. Just like Artoo and Threepio having two lines on Yavin IV.

>>81286594
Agreed, if they need any cinematic universe, it should be a 2001 space odyssey universe

>>81270966

better question is why ackbar looks like hes been cooked and this dood is uncooked, what's up with that?

>>81270966
They're kolto miners.

>>81274883
>yawn
What if they share the same origins as us, pussytits

>>81272644
You sound like an angry, fat teenager.
But anyway, the technology in the star wars movies is stagnant, it hasn't progressed much in a long time. it being a prequel it had to be consistent with the movies after it, so going all out with entirely new ships was out of the question.

>>81271913
For some reason "ship" in space is treated like "ship" in the ocean

For example, Star Destroyers are considered part of the "Imperial Navy"

I don't know how or why they camr to the conclusion that spacecraft should be treated like watercraft, and not like aircraft, or their own separate thing entirely

>>81289853
Also this is why they have the "star" prefix

It's not literally "Star Destroyer, it's "Star" Destroyer, as in like a naval destroyer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroyer

>>81289853
>For some reason
because it's the best analogue. it predates star wars by, idk, probably close to a century. blue water seafaring is essentially casting yourself out into a vast environment that is completely uninhabitable. you have to bring with you everything you need for as long as you will be on the voyage. once you're out in the open ocean, YOU'RE STUCK AND THE SHIP IS LITERALLY EVERYTHING TO YOU. there is no taking a break, there is no time when your life isn't tied directly to the functioning of the vessel that houses you. that's why traditionally naval discipline was extremely strict, and even brutal.

the same conditions apply to space, only more so. aircraft don't have the same history -scores of people never lived for months at a time in flying aircraft

There's something fishy going on here.

>>81274291
Then explain the bounty hunters Vader hired to catch Han Solo, and why he sold him to the hutts. Hard mode: do it without using EU non-canon bullshit.

>>81284091
>No pilots or infantrymen.
Are you retarded?

>>81292590
You can hate Untermenschen and still hire Niggers and Ottomans to fight for you.
Look that shit up, it is that simple.