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Was this scene realistic?

Realistically, could the average man outrun or hold his own in a fight with a bear?

Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.
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>>81227426
Haven't seen the movie but I'm pretty sure bears don't rape humans?
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>>81227426
>but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.

That's where you're wrong kiddo
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Absolutely not. A bear? He will fuck your shit up.
Jamie pull that up-
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>>81227426
it would be a closer fight than many give credit for

>muh claws

yeah ok, but humans have thumbs
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4 legs > 2 legs

Sorry to tell you bipedal
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>>81227426
An 82 year old man did it and he killed the bear. Granted he had a 4 in. pocket and the bear was weakened as it just came out of hibernation but it is possible.
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a human can easily beat a bear one on one. we have bigger brains and thumbs and we know how to adapt. improvise some sort of weapon (or rudimentary lathe), or even burn the forest down
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Bears will fuck you up but there have been many cases of humans surviving, in historical and contemporary accounts. Mountain men back in those days were also tough as shit, arguably much tougher than "average".

>Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.
Bears are fast as fuck, don't base all your shit on video games where big = slow and strong, lithe = fast and weak. That's stupid and simplistic.
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>>81227426
a smaller brown bear..yeah, perhaps. could go either way.

a fucking grown ass grizzly bear? are you retarded? that's the same as fighting a fucking siberian tiger. it literally weights 300kg.
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>>81227573
tigers are small compared to bears

also grizzlies dont have shit on polar bears
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>>81227573
Yeah, I mean a grizzly bear. They're not that big, are they? A couple of decently fit dudes could probably bring one of this fuckers down.
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>>81227615
it can kill a grown man with a swipe to the face

it's claws are 4 inchs long and can tear off chunks
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>>81227674
but we have thumbs and are agile
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>>81227674
Are grizzlys the most fierce animal then?

Could anything defeat one of them?
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>>81227454
lmao bears raping humans lol ur funny mate

bell end
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>>81227426
>but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.
a bear is much faster than a human. you're not going to outrun them
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>>81227764
Nah they're fucking massive there's no way a bear could outrun someone like usain bolt they're too big to move that fast
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>>81227800

You ever heard of momentum?
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Are the Sarah Jane big finish stories briggskino?
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>>81227594
siberian tigers can be as big as bears, dude. they can weigh 300+kg. the biggest ones are 3+ meters long. captive siberian tigers reach 450kg easy. they are not much smaller than a polar bear. there are records of siberian tigers killing entire units of soldiers in manchuria and korea.

all that being said, an average human could never in a million years beat a grizzly 1v1 without a weapon. if you put a weapon into the mix, it can go either way, because a bear isn't smart enough to know to avoid a blade, he'll go right for you.
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>>81227800
>the average human is Usain Bolt


I keep forgetting /tv/ is invested by /v/edditors with zero knowledge of physiology
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>>81227594
a full grown male bengal or siberian tiger weighs 600 - 800 fucking pounds of pure muscle and can be up to 11ft long. tigers are fucking huge and easily comparable to a grizzly.
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There are cases where a man has killed a bear with a knife. There are fewer than 9 cases and the bear fucked them up badly in the process.
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>>81227800
usain bolt reaches about 27 mph. a grizzly bear can reach 35 mph
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>>81227706
rhinos, hippos, elephants would kill a bear without much effort. polar bears also. a big tiger or lion too, but they'd have to be abnormally large probably.
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>>81227426
>Was this scene realistic?
realistic enough
>Realistically, could the average man outrun or hold his own in a fight with a bear?
no
>Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.
you're super retarded. It has better agility and speed than the best human olympic athlete.
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>>81227800
are you kidding? a grizzly can run up to 50km/h.
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>>81227908
Hippos are fucking scary.
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>>81227615
>>81227674
>>81227706
Humans have been hunting and killing grizzlies and polar bears for thousands of years. A bear is no match for a few guys with spears.
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>>81227800
>Everyone falling for obvious bait
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>>81227426

This actually happened, mostly, so yes.

Glass rally did get mailed and jumped by a grizzly bear. He held it off long enough for the rest of his party to arrive and kill it.
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>>81227958
humans hunting in packs can kill anything, this isn't the point of this thread. although there are numerous accounts of hunter groups getting mauled to shit by a single animal because they didn't know what they were doing.
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>>81227999
>mfw reading stories of hunters getting utterly bamboozled by tigers ambushing them
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>>81227426
not even a gorilla could ward off a bear
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>>81227800

They also have twice as many legs as usain bolt
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>>81227908
This would be an interesting start to a movie.

>Park ranger investigating the corpses of a she grizzly bear and the remains of her cubs
>"That's fucking terrible, what the fuck could do this to a Grizzley bear?" - Local farmer
>"Rhino, Hippo.. An elephant with out much effort.. Polar bear, big tiger.. lion."
>"But Johnny, we're in the Sierra Nevada's.... My god.. what's out there?"
>"I don't know, but I intend to find out."

THIS SUMMER.... be prepared to get..
TORN TO BITS
a Rob Schinder film
PG-13
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What if the bear underestimates the power of my Sharingan technique...
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>>81228051
see >>81228039
they have two legs are you blind?
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>>81228036
go watch "Daeho", it's a pretty good korean movie about that. Oldboy hunting tigers.
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>>81227426

CGI bears are the worst thing Hollywood has ever done. No way should this cuck have gotten an Oscar.

Real actors use real bears!
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>>81227999
>this isn't the point of this thread.
Maybe not, but that is what those guys were talking about. That said, one man can definitely kill a large bear with a bear spear.
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>>81227889
Yup, but a Grizzly still will fuck your shit up worse since it relies way more on raw strength while the tiger will attempt to go for a clean kill with a neck bite to suffocate you.
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superior bearkino right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0AHvPpGrDU
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1 Grizzly bear vs 1 Silverback Gorilla

Who would win?
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>>81228609
the bear
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>>81227426
No it wasn't, Leo was a total pussy, if I was him I would've unsheathed my katana, chopped off the bear's head in one strike, then say something like "heh, nothin personnel bear" then walk away
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>>81228609
Grizzly a shit m8 and it'd still win.
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>>81228661
This, I once killed 5 bears with one shuriken toss
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>>81227908
ehh agree with all except the rhino, rhino's are big and all but they only have the horn as a weapon and aren't very agile.

A bear would maul the living shit out of a rhino and likely shrug off any damage done by the horn
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>>81228857
rhinos are also practically blind but on the other hand they're basically walking tanks
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>>81228661
>>81228749
Katana? Shurikens? You fucking Asians and your weapons. Have some discipline in your life. I once channeled my chi and used my Iron Fist to punch bears heart. All the other bears were so scared they ran away.
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>>81227426
The scene itself? Sort of, in how the bear behaves.

Could a man kill a bear? If he got off a glancing shot on it, and had a large hunting knife, then sure.

It's pretty clear the bear was wounded by the rifle, and was bleeding out (but was too dumb and adrenaline-filled to realize it), so he didn't really kill the thing with his bare hands like some people are complaining about.
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>>81228857
rhinos are more agile than they look, go look up videos of them fighting. they are also borderline bulletproof (not the skin itself, that penetrates easily, but the osteoderms in their skin are like another layer of bone) and run 40mph+. I doubt a single bear could even hurt a rhino, much less kill it.

also, a rhino can weigh up to 4 FUCKING TONNES.
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Grizzly vs. Saltwater croc?

I take the reptile.
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>>81227426
All I need is one tree. If I can keep the tree or boulder between me and the bear via strafing then I'm safe until it gives up.
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>>81227800
grizzlies outrun, outclimb and outswim you

your only hope is to climb out a tiny tree which is too small for him to climb up but too big for him to just tear it down
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>>81227426
You are retarded

People can't bullet mode a swipe from a bear, this isn't d&d, human "agility" doesn't mean shit and literally any human who goes up against a bear is going to be fucking murdered unless he has strong guns or gets lucky as fuck with some other weapon
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>>81229615
>tfw when 3 lvls to low to fight bears in Oblivion
>spend an hour running around a boulder with a bear behind me.
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>>81227426
>weighs a thousand pounds
>runs 30mph
>vicious claws
>climb trees


Bear wants you dead, you're fucked.
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>>81227426
>Realistically, could the average man outrun or hold his own in a fight with a bear?

No.

>Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.

Again, no. Do you know anything about bears?
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>>81229615
DAMN, khloe grace morez looks like THAT?
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>>81227908

a lion would get fucked by a grizzly bear. there fucking pussies compared to tigers
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>>81227426
Easy just hide in your car. No more bear problems. :3
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>>81229537
oh wow I didnt realize the weight difference.. yea rhino wins hands down, it could toss the bear with a head flick
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>>81227426

a bear can run 100m in 7 seconds. if the accepted advice on how to escape an animal attack says DON'T RUN AWAY, then humans are slower than it.
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People kill bears and survive horrible maulings all the time. We're surprisingly hard to kill and adrenaline is a hell of a drug
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>>81229837
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>>81229895
More like the bear feels little need to actually kill us because they don't see us as food, they just rip our shit up
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>>81228077
>no matter who wins, we lose

Chills
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>>81229930
black bears a cute!
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>>81227426
Humans with the correct tools could fuck up any bear. Hell, we could drop the fucking Tsar Bomba on the bear's face if we *really* wanted to.

One man, unarmed, vs a healthy adult grizzly that wanted to kill him? I'd pick the bear every time, doesn't matter whether the man is me or some guy who graduated top of the Navy Seals with a gorillion confirmed kills.

A man with a knife and a muzzle loader vs an adult grizzly protecting her cubs? I guess it would come down to who detects who first. If the man can get a good clean shot off, the he could probably survive. If it degenerates into a brawl like in the film, the bear has all the advantages. It doesn't need a knife when it has five of the bastards on each paw. A solid blow to a man's head will knock him out or at least disorientate him. A claw across the face will cause profuse bleeding, pain and blindness. Animals instinctively go for the throat when trying to kill something. Hell, even the weight of an adult grizzly will crush ribs and shatter the pelvis.

>sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male

Agile and fast compared to other humans, perhaps. Animals are in a whole other league. A grizzly bear can run at 35 MPH. Its legs can fucking move 300kg of bear at 35 MPH. That should give you some indication as to its strength.
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>>81229930
He just wants to play pat-a-cake.
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The character survived a bear attack in real life too.
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One has two chins and one chews limbs so..
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>>81229895
bear attacks are very, very rare. the only reason people survive them is because a bear only wants to toy with a human, it doesn't want to eat fresh meat. when they eventually knock a person out, or the person is smart enough to freeze, they'll give up and leave. there are barely any historical records of unarmed people killing a bear, ever. the only time a bear will actually try to kill a human is if it's a mother bear with cubs and you surprise her.
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>>81227426
Men have killed grizzly's with knives before, but the odds are extremely in the bears favor.
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>>81230131
this is true for brown bears. for black bears it's actually the opposite and it's a bit scary. even if you sneak up on a black bear when it's eating or with its cubs they're so timid in nature that they'll just run away. the only time black bear attacks happen is when it's a lone predatory male that is literally hunting humans for food.
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>>81230131
>>81230203
>bear attacks are very, very rare

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/04/russian-town-besieged-by-hungry-bears
https://www.sott.net/article/303657-Bear-attacks-in-Russia-increase-as-population-explodes-and-climate-goes-haywire
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>>81230203
Wrong, it's a sow defending her cubs.
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>>81230170

thats just some serious fucking luck 2bh
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>>81230260
>However, the majority of black bear attacks tend to be motivated by hunger rather than territoriality, and thus victims have a higher probability of surviving by fighting back rather than submitting. Unlike grizzlies, female black bears do not display the same level of protectiveness to their cubs, and will seldom attack humans in their vicinity.[10]

learn2bears my dude
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>>81230131
wow, you don't actually believe your own bullshit, do you?
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>>81230254
you are literally confirming my point. there have been about 20 lethal bear attacks per decade in the US. that's probably less than lethal snake bites or bee stings.
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>>81230309
Live in Alaska for awhile, my man. It's the same with Moose, which kill a lot more people than bears.
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>>81227426
This was based on a true story faggot
The injun bs and the murdering wasnt but the bear mauling was
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>>81230310
considering I learned these things from seasoned hunters and live in a place where I see a bear every other day in the summertime, yeah, I believe it. it's also not that hard to google these facts.
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>>81230330
>gets defensive

whatever, man
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>>81230370
dude black bears live all over the country. they're completely timid they'll virtually never attack unless it's a lone predatory black bear. black bears are very different from grizzlies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkwy0scRXBU

educate yourself fool
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>Bear fags

A Gorilla would fucking DESTORY a Bear
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>>81230442

>muh thumbs
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https://youtu.be/X0AHvPpGrDU

anyone seen this movie? much more realistic
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>Small = fast and athletic

Ah yes, the classic schoolyard fight rule.

Spoiler: bears are faster than you, as well as stronger, more aggressive, and more durable. Unless you're well armed, you're fucked
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>>81227426
I'd say it was more realistic than a lot of shit in movies.
Hugh Glass was a real person who did get fucked up by a Grizzly, and he definitely wouldn't be the only Grizzly survivor.

Also you can't outrun a fucking grizzly bear. They have a top speed of 35 mph.
Usain fucking Bolt could only run 27, and he's literally the fastest man alive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEeBujKmQc
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>>81230620
The one with the guy on the bike is fake as fuck.
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>>81227426
>Was this scene realistic?
Are you fucking kidding me Hugh died like three times in it!
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>>81230719
nah, i saw the news story about it a few years ago
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>>81230254
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

Why do they kill bears that killed people?
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>>81230620
>visit /gif/ from time to time
>always see that one webm of a bear eating a man's face alive

>>81230620
>dat fake as shit biking video taking up 50% of the video
>dat guy wearing a gi fighting the bear
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>>81230131
He wasn't unarmed
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>>81227547
>burn the forest down

Maybe against a bear the size of a tangerine
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>>81230742
kys

>>81230752
because humans are stupid and because they believe the bears acquire a taste for it. We also have to assert our dominance.
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>>81230767
>that one webm of a bear eating a man's face aliv

link?
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>>81230330
>there have been about 20 lethal bear attacks per decade
Because most aren't lethal, which is exactly the point
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>>81230752
Amerifats are that stupid

The electrocuted an elephant back in the Edison time just because she sit on a person
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>>81230852
They knew what to do with fat chicks back then.
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>>81228131
So you wish Dicaprio got mauled for real?
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>>81227426
>Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.

>bears are slower than people

Fucking europoors, I swear. This is what happens when you don't have wildlife in your country.
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>>81230820
sorry bud, never save it. Just head over to /gif/ and look for a rekt thread.
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>>81230910
is it gory? describe it, i hate those threads.
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>>81227426
here OP you have realistic portrayal of a fucking bear
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>>81230938
a bear is literally eating a man's face off alive while pinning him down
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>>81230991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqQcvb45uqU this it?
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>>81229537
Rhinos lack predatory instincts though
But they are tanks, someone post that webm of a bunch of tigers trying to kill a rhino
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>>81228036
Post some
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>>81230886
Not him, but yes. It would've been a posthumous, and therefore less cringeworthy, award speech.
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bear vs hippo
who wins
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I love this meme where we pretend to be experienced bear attack experts.

Let's go make an Interstellar thread and pretend we're fast rotational supermassive blackhole experts too, that's always fun.
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>>81231091
Hippo. Hippos kill for fun.
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Wasn't there a guy who had to fight a bar 1 on 1 and managed to kill out by tearing its throat out with his teeth?

I swear I remember reading something about that somewhere.
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>>81227706
Megashark.
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>>81231091
Nobody fucks with hippos
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>>81231116
Worked out for Nolan.
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>>81227706
I'm sure it wouldn't take a whale much effort.
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>>81231011
guy in the green shirt, yeah, I think it's that one only in the webm you can see it chewing his face.
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>>81230752
Because they've usually become too used to humans that they lose fear of them, in addition to realizing they're edible.

To them, it looks like meats back on the menu
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>>81231091
hippo is the most dangerous animal on this planet
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>>81231280
What about man
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>>81231214
He had Kip Thorne do all the science work my dear amigo friend.
In short, Nolan took every extreme theory there is and pushed it to the max. But there is an explanation for everything, you can find the book PDF online
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>>81231305
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>>81231305
Man isn't an animal. We were created by God in His image and therefore are above animals
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>>81227706
are you talking about uchiha madara?
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>>81231405
is god white or a real nigga from the block
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>>81231405
which god?
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>>81231280
Orcas are. ruthless killers that can work in a pack, easily take on a great white by itself let alone a pod of them. hippo wouldnt stand a chance
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Where's the audio of that guy getting eaten by a bear?

Good shit man.
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>>81231405
Man is The animal
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>>81227426
>average
Well, he's not supposed to be average, is he? I mean, a dude killed a tiger with his bare hands...
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>I..I could take him..
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>>81231053
40% of male white rhinos die in combat with other white rhinos

They aren't predators but they have big ass nose boners for a reason
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>>81230752
>Wallace's remains were found by hikers on the Mary Mountain Trail, northeast of Old Faithful.[26] Wallace was hiking alone.[27] An autopsy showed that Wallace died from a bear attack.[27] According to a report released by Yellowstone rangers, park officials had attempted to give Wallace a lecture about bear safety, but he was not interested, calling himself a "grizzly bear expert".[28]
Kek.
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>>81227426
>t. i know nothing about bears
>>81227454
t. i'm a fucking retard
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>>81227484
short faced bear? can you imagine that? trudging all that distance and running into a literal monster?
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>>81227426
>Shove thumbs in eyes and nostrils
>Shove rocks or literally anything you can find down its throat
>Stab neck with any sharp thing you can find
If you can keep calm and the bear doesn't get too many hits in you might be able to at the very least get away
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>>81227426

Could the average man beat an average MMA fighter?
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>>81228115
I thought for a second it would be about a tiger taking revenge on shittons of hunters, which is a far more enjoyable movie idea than the reverse. I dunno a movie about folks hunting endangered animals always comes across as lousy and mean-spirited. It's not like there are more than 10,000 tigers left on the planet.

>look up population

>there are actually less than 4,000 tigers left on the planet

see man, what the fuck.
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>>81230899
It's obvious as fuck that it's an americuck that made the post though
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>>81227426
bear threads are always top notch senpai, thankks for posting
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>>81232375
yeah but imagine if all 4,000 of those tigers teamed up and stormed the white house or something
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>>81227490
t. never seen a bear IRL
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>>81232375
>That little blurb about tigers being extinct in Logan

They'll all be gone soon.
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A pack of slavs vs a bear

Who would win?

https://youtu.be/9SpzW_O2Ya0
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>>81232375
Numbers are up slightly. The main reason is shitskins and chinks killing animals for no reason other than to look richer than they are. Rhino horns, tiger skins, etc. Kill the nigger and mudslime, and you save the animals.
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Allright niggas, bears are scary, but could a well trained male in full plate armor and a pole weapon (like a spear or some such nonsense) defear a bear?
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>>81232452
>They'll all be gone soon.

Don't worry we'll have zero tigers forever, by 2100 but by that time we'll have 4 billion niggers.

Don't you feel better now?
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>>81227547
Galaxy quest?
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>but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.

Hahahaha.
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>>81232550
>defeat
If he gets a good first hit then yeah, the combination of pain combined with the intimidation of a prey animal standing its ground and the fact the bear has never seen armor before may be enough to drive the bear away. But if the bear got you on your back you wouldn't be getting up again and soon enough it would rip the armor off and kill you
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>>81232452
I think most people are incredibly oblivious about how much the ecosystem has been fucked up in the last 50 years. Huge swaths of animals are dying out, becoming virtually extinct, or the like.

Biodiversity is actually a net-positive for the human race, as a broader gene pool provides more possibilities for advances in medicines, nutrition, scientific research, etc. But you'll have idiots say "LOL JUST FUCKIN DUMB ANIMALS WHO NEEDS THEM ENVIRONMENT AGENCIES" while shoveling McDonald's down their fat throats.

>>81232530
it's nuts that the other major cause of animal extinction is fucking chinks grinding up animals to make "ancient chinese secret dick grow powder." Things are arguably worse for the larger ecosystem/biosphere than they have ever been, as many populations have plummeted precipitously in Africa, Asia, and S. America over the course of a few decades.

But McDonald's needs land to farm for cattle to shoot methane into the atmosphere and make Americans fatter, so gotta break a few eggs to make that Steak and Egg McGriddle.
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>>81231145

http://blog.benspera.com/2013/05/wyoming-man-that-killed-a-bear-with-his-bare-hands-and-teeth/
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would you have a better chance of killing a bear with a one shot musket or let's say a longsword or spear?
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>>81227426
>>81227454
How was this rape?
there was no penetration
was that just a meme?
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>>81232813

honestly either way you'd get one shot at it. then bear fucks you
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Well yeah, people have killed bears with their bear hands before
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>>81232643
It's not really just humans either, we're undergoing another mass extinction event.
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>>81227426
>Grizzly bears can reportedly reach up to 35 miles an hour
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>>81228857

Nigger I work with rhinos, their skin can be up to 4 inches thick with muscle and fat, that's a scary point all to itself.
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>>81232922
scary thought! However, it's probably better for civilization if governments try to mitigate some of the effects of climate change, ocean acidification, permafrost melt, etc. and create contingencies instead of finding new ways to fuck each other over while kicking the ticking timebomb down the road. It might cut into a corporation's bottom line though, so that makes the chances of concerted preparation or positive action unlikely at best.
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>>81231388
>But there is an explanation for everything

There is a explanation for why advanced trans-dimensional humans from the far future that have complete mastery of gravity and time, and can open wormholes and create pocket dimensions, need such an incredibly circuituous and over-complicated scheme to rely a simple message to their primitive selves? Because I would love to hear that explanation.
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Well,this whole thread is kinda dumbish but I do know 4 gladiators(armed with usual gladiator shit and probably above average strength) went on 1 bear.
Romans took whole bloodsports thing to a next level so they probably knew what they were doing.
>inb4sauce
I read it somewhere sometimes from book when I was in Spartacus™ phase
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>>81233128
How can you precisely define that human kind will never be able to manipulate time
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Lets say a spaceship containing a single Xenomorph lands deep in the woods. The Xenomorph starts preying on everything around, and a bigass Grizly takes notice of the problem, tells three other pals and they are all like "we can't bear with this bullshit anymore, let's kick some ass".

So, who would win, a Xenomorph vs 4 Grizzly bears ?
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>>81233256
>>81233256
... that's not the point of what I was asking, dummy.
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>>81230752
Same reason man eaters of all species are hunted down and killed.

They get a taste for human meat and frankly, we are fucking everywhere and our smaller settlements lack sufficient fortifications to keep out larger predatoes, especially in rural areas or Africa.

Look up the two lions that The Ghost and the Darkness was based on. When unchecked and unchallenged, that is the behavior of any predator that begins to see humans as food.
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>>81233112
>le globalism meme
>dude corporations suck lmao
Even if we did band together, China would just ignore everything, the mudslimes wouldn't care, and niggers would still treat Africa as if nothing bad was happening.
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>>81231305
We, too have learned not to fuck with hippos.

They are nature's crackbabies. Zero empathy, remorse or restraint. As >>81231124 said, they kill for fun/sport.
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>>81232530
Killing the Chinese would save A LOT of endangered species and solve many ecological problems.
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>>81232813
Spear. When men hunted bears, they did so with spears. So long as it's got a metal haft so the bear can't just swat it and shred it after the initial thrust you have a chance.

A chance.
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>>81233707
That's quite the logical leap to go from "governments need to cooperate on the environment" to "le globalist lefty" bullshit. There are some issues that supersede the usual xenophobia/bickering between asians, africans, Europeans etc., and trying to make sure we don't accidentally fuck things up on a mass-extinction scale is probably the first on that list. World hunger, AIDs, evil Muslims, etc. are nothing compared to the PLANET's well-being. Tyrone's cock won't be a problem if you can't breathe anymore (for reasons unrelated to Tyrone's cock).

You're right in pointing out how other countries like to look the other way. That's why you have to do things smarter or find a way to force people into line, whether economically, culturally, etc. The big point is that the third world is now industrializing, and it is of the utmost importance that they do not repeat the same mistakes and growing pains of industrialization that the first world did during the previous two centuries. That requires coordination and a realization that a certain amount of balance between growth and maintaining the ecosystem is necessary. And methods that don't devolve into "let a water company suck up all the water and move on lmao."

And since when did 4chan posters suddenly decide that big conglomerates that ONLY CARE ABOUT TAKING YOUR MONEY are worth defending? I thought we were "enlightened consumers", not shills.
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>>81232836
her claws and teeth penetrated his flesh though?
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Watch this

https://youtu.be/k8R9fwsEA6M

That's not even a full grown bear. Look how fast that things moving. In the words of joe rogan, that thing could rip you to shreds. The average man would shit and piss his pants and then get horribly mauled to death.
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>>81233555

a human beat the alien so the bears should be able to assuming they all go after it at once
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https://youtu.be/tK609rbSBLs
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You = the deer

https://youtu.be/Fg9_ZnojxmU
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>>81233611
But,that was not the point I was answering ,silly
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>>81234162
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
call somebody

lol my sides
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>>81233934
>The big point is that the third world is now industrializing, and it is of the utmost importance that they do not repeat the same mistakes and growing pains of industrialization that the first world did during the previous two centuries

How? How are you going to convince a chinese exec to give a shit about the environment? How are you going to convince oil sheiks to just use green alternatives? How are you getting the third world to even learn lessons in the first place? Africans have had how many MILLENNIA to get to normal standards? Shit, Indians are on the rise and 60% of their country doesn't use a fucking toilet. We got refugees who refuse to adapt to their new countries and demand the host nations to adapt to them. A blantant refusal to assimilate. You're trying to get them to recognize the value of the environment, and they're sizing you up for a beheading.

There's a certain distance you can go before you realize that something is a waste of time. They cannot and will not listen to you, and that's how they want it. They are either too retarded to understand or too brainwashed to care.
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>>81234162
RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>see bear
>take off my shoes
>bear spots me
>fall down nad pretend to be dead
>bear sniffs me
>it gets bored and starts leaving
>walk up behind it quietly (no shoes)
>snap its neck

not really hard
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>>81227889
Jesus, those things will rip you to shreds.
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>>81227800
Grizzlies can sprint at 40mph m8...
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>>81234543
That's one of two scenarios:
>the bear spots you and gets close out of curiosity
then it's a good idea to stay very still and make yourself as least of a threat as you possibly can
>the bear is hungry and wants to make you his prey
right there is better to intimidate and attack that bear with whaterver is at hand in hope that he pussies out, because he can and will kill you with ease
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>>81232375
>tigers will go extinct in your lifetime
Good.
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yes it's super easy

I crack open bears all the time
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>>81234419
>How are you going to convince a chinese exec to give a shit about the environment?

Sanctions+tariffs for companies that don't follow the rules. If they want access to a large and wealthy market (ie, the first world), they'll either conform and lose profits, and there is no money-grubber alive that will turn down a large market. The point isn't convincing all of them, because that's impossible, it's about using people's own vices/fallen nature against them to get ENOUGH of them to do what you want.

>How are you going to convince oil sheiks to just use green alternatives?

Either by destroying the oil market through cheap prices or creating alternatives that crash their economic power. IE, INNOVATION, tech development, revitalizing nuclear power, etc. If the United States went all into nuclear we'd solve probably half if not more of the world's energy crisis. In fact, if you pushed for modern nuclear (not Cherynobyl shit), you would solve a lot of strain on the environment.

You're focused too much on "those browns and yellows will never learn!" instead of "what advances and tools do we have now to affect change?" Frankly, I think it's close to brainwashing to say "don't bother with the poor countries because they will never be civilized" - ignoring that that isn't the point; the point is preventing poor countries from making environmentally damaging decisions and policies. Like, you are focusing on the pointless scare tactic of "sizing you up for beheadings" instead of actual policies, sticks/carrots, etc.

Honestly, a lot of the solution is switching to modern nuclear, ie, molten salt reactors and the like. No more Fukushimas if reactors don't need half an ocean to cool down. You have no idea how grossly inefficient the world's energy consumption is. It is not a stretch to say that it might be killing us.
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>>81232530
>>81233804
Fun fact: Ice cores show that mass die offs in China directly correlate with an improvement in atmospheric health. Chinks are literal parasites.
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>>81234162
Wrong hole?
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>>81233555
They might manage to kill the xeno, but they too would die due to acidic blood.
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>>81233555
The bears would get dissolved by its acid blood and the xeno would be too busy growing wheat to hunt anything.
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Could a bear beat CIA and his airplane?
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>>81228534
lol.
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Is the man unarmed? Then no, you cant beat a bear by yourself unarmed. You may avoid the fight by scaring him or something like that, but if he wants to kill you, you will die.

Does he has some melee weapon preferably a cutting weapon rather than piercing or strike weapon like a knife? Then its possible, it depends on wether its a surprise attack, who gets the first hit in and where. Its possible, but unlikely, man its at disadvantage.
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>>81234296
If what manner did my post imply that

>human kind will never be able to manipulate time

In the movie they eventually do, no idea why ask that.
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>>81234899
Depends on who is in charge
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i tame the bear with the power of my mind
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>>81234419

ya whatever go fuck yourself m8
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>>81233990
that bear was a real klutz
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK609rbSBLs
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>>81227690
>i am sure to win because of my speed
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>>81230493
That just ruined my day. Jesus christ
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>>81227426
It is possible for a human to kill a bear
the trick is shoving your arm down its throat. The bear won't bite, it will try to get away.
Just wait for it to choke on your arm to death, don't let it get away
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>>81227426
Lived in Alaska for a long time and have seen my share of full grown brown bears up close. Normally they don't bother you, but if one decided to get pissy or felt threatened, all I can say is seeing one on a screen does not do justice to the comparison between you and the bear. A grizzly can run down an elk from a dead sprint. Unless the bear loses interest (which is the leading cause of survival from a bear attack), you don't stand a chance in a "fight" with anything less than a 12 gauge slug or a 454 casull minimum. Personally, I wouldn't feel safe other than sniping one from where it can't charge at me.
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>>81234162
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hahah
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>>81227426
Can someone kill a bear in hand to hand combat? Yes, it has been done before.

Can the average man do it? Almost certainly not.

>Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.

You're a fucking idiot who had no idea what bears are capable of.
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>>81230442
Not a chance. Silverback gorilla would die on the spot.
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>>81231091
Hippos, even alligators don fuck with hippos

If it wasn't for hippos having a chill life living in a 24/7 bath tub with their waifu harems, we'd all be fucking dead already
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No
anyone with a shred of intelligence walked out during this scene.
Leo should have been realistically turned into hamburger meat, but because that wouldn't make for a very good movie, they add to some bullshit subtext like he was able to survive the bear attack because he has the will of a tiger or something.
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>>81232813
Depends on the caliber of the musket
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>>81227426
Black bears are famous for being absolute fucking pussies, you can fight back against. If it was a grizzly though he'd be fucked beyond belief.
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>>81235941
Most people who are attacked by bears survive
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>>81235848
>no idea what bears are capable of
A grizzly barely needs to touch you and you die. Webm related - guess the outcome of this incident. He dies.
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>>81236020
Not by grizzlies.
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>>81235898
Why did he shit himself while fighting?
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>>81236118
Jesus
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This thread has convinced me that bears should be hunted and destroyed

Just knowing they're out there is scaring me
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>>81236118
they dont look dead
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>>81236475
>The bird moving faster than the human eye can follow

H-HAYAI!
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>>81236160
Most people who are attacked by grizzlies survive.
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>>81236286

bear attacks are scary for bears too :(
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>>81236484
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Miller
>On April 22, 2008, while filming a promotional video at the Predators in Action facility, Miller was killed by a 4-year old grizzly bear named Rocky.
>The 7½-foot-tall, 700-pound bear bit Stephan Miller on the neck once, piercing his jugular vein and carotid artery. An autopsy revealed that he died within minutes of the attack.
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>>81236791
ok
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>>81236286
He wanted to let the other bear know what a world of shit he was in.
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>>81227490
yes, the fearsome human with his razor-sharp thumbs
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People do survive grizzly bear attacks but often they are left with horrific mauling wounds. Black bears might not be as hard to survive but still lethal. Grizzly will fuck your shit up and you just have to play dead and hope it stops swiping at you.
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>>81231448
Back to /a/ narutard
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>>81234685
Damn, ya got me.

All the horrible shit I see and read on this garbage site, and this is what got me today. Congrats, anon, I was triggered. Go fuck yourself, faggot.
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>>81232375
There was a game way back called Deer Hunter that was about a deer who became a hunter and hunted humans shit was lit
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>>81228039
Bear looks like he's about to do a dragon shout
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>>81228303

You better hope you don't miss your thrust and that blade finds it's way through inches and inches of fat, muscle, hide and palisades of bone. Because he's not going to give you a second shot.
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>>81230131
not to mention the false charges
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>>81232276
>Bear is just gonna stand there not getting in hits while you try to stick your memethumbs in its nose
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>>81237192
He said can not would.
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>>81236118
>when you go in for that first kiss but she aint having it
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>>81232276
One hit is too many hits.
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>>81237192
There was a report of a brown bear attack in northern Alaska where the bear had been shot multiple times during a charge and one round had pierced its heart. It died shortly after mauling and killing the shooter.
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>>81233873
They also did so with a lot of men
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>>81235898

That one bear pooped while fighting :)
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>>81236118
then show me his body
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>>81232276
>Shove thumbs in eyes and nostrils

I don't know how that would help.
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Buddy of mine got mauled by a bear last year

https://www.google.com/amp/missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/washington-hunter-recounts-grizzly-bear-attack-near-livingston/article_6e929ca7-e982-5b6d-882b-ab5aa355e5be.amp.html
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>>81230811

lmao
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>>81237422
They didn't hunt brown bears with spears unless the bear was hibernating. The easy way T'linget and other Alaskan natives hunted bears were with traps, most commonly with metal hooks in a frozen fish that would decompress as it thawed and rip the bear apart from inside. Nasty shit, but very effective. No hunting party wanted to fight a pissed off grizzly.
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>>81227800
holy shit nigger, this was a retarded post.
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>>81227690
grizzlies can climb trees and reach speeds faster than any man

with four legs, they are able to turn just as fast as any man

some grizzlies bears are known to eat a man's thumbs first, just to show their contempt for shitposters like you
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>>81232276
One hit = dead. The force of the blow will kill you. Do not fuck with bears.
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>>81227426
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>>81236475
HE'S FAST
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>>81227426

Let me tell ya a story son, a story about a man, a mane named Davey, Davey Crockett. He killed himself a bear when he was only three. That's Davey, Davey Crockett, him of the wild frontier. Born on a mountain top in Tennessee. He fought single handed in the injun war. he went off to congress and served a spell, fixin up the government and laws as well, took over Washington so we hear tell, patched up the crack in the liberty bell. Davey Crockett, servin his country well.
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>>81237973
>his right hand and arm wedged in the throat

that's called being eaten alive
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>>81238120
Davey Crockett died screaming with shit in his pants.
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>>81227838
Metric system GTFO
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>>81227426

A determined sun bear will fuck your shit up and can outrun a human for short distances. A grizzly would kill you without effort.
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>>81229773
>there fucking pussies compared to tiger

No they aren't. A male lion spends a lot more time fighting than a tiger does. A lion's got to contend with rival prides, crocodiles, and hyenas. It has so much fighting in its life that it has evolved a mane to be able to fight other lions without getting killed.
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>>81229930

Hey Jamie, pull that up-
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>>81227426
Bears can charge at up to 30 miles an hour.
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>>81227426
>Realistically, could the average man outrun or hold his own in a fight with a bear?
>Sure, the bear is big and bulky but it doesn't have the sheer agility and speed of the average athletic male.

These are bear claws.
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>>81236118

>"Randy Miller then hit Rocky with a cane, trying to make him let go of Stephan, an action that Randy later said might have unwittingly escalated the bear attack.[2][8] The 7½-foot-tall, 700-pound bear bit Stephan Miller on the neck once, piercing his jugular vein and carotid artery. An autopsy revealed that he died within minutes of the attack.[2][3][9]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Miller
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>>81239459
>ywn high five a bear
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>>81239459
I eat bear claws for breakfast.
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>>81237973
That is some Dwarf Fortress tier shit.
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>>81233555
Xeno's are fucking strong as hell. Their tongues alone are strong enough to puncture through steal helmets. Their acid blood is also able to melt through the strongest of steels. They are one average about 9-10 feet tall and weight about 300kg. Extremely fast and intelligent, all it would take is one stealth ass xeno to sneak behind one of the bears and puncture it's skull or heart. Then make xeno bears.
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>>81238183
Can't eat if it's dead.
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>>81238185

i cant imagine how gay you'd have to be to talk shit on davy crockett.
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>>81227426
Grab a rock and blind the bear from afar
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>average city dwelling male nowadays can get knocked over by a small dog tugging the leash
>killing a grizzly bear with his bare hands

hahaha
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>>81240103
looks like the truth hurts
you little bitch
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>>81238185
Found the under-50.
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>>81227573

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VQSZ4c20KE
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>>81227490
bear claws are like steel knives
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a human with a weapon can rock a bear if he's an exceptionally brave and cunning fighter.

other than that, you're probably 100% fucked if it engages you.
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>>81227706
a mosquito with the aids
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>>81240231

you have a little peener, my friend. heh heh.
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>>81227800
bears run up to 50 mph


let that sink in
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>>81240440
you must think about cock 24/7 anon
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>>81240282
>rednecks in a tree stand watching a bear walk around
>fighting a bear

nah...just, nah
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I can kill a bear, but I'd say the chances are 40-60. Yeah, I know bears are fast, huge and strong, but I'm smarter. I'm 6'3 and I've been training martial arts and lifting since I was 15, that makes almost a decade of battle experience, mostly in boxe and karate. I'm quite sure I can smash an adult human's skull with a proper hit.

As for fighting a bear, it depends a lot. It runs fast yeah, but that doesn't mean it swings fast, plus, with it's animal instincts, he will most likely try to bite me, which requires a lot more mobility from its huge body and limits his reach (since the neck can't turn fast or far enough). If I get a first, proper hit in, the chances are probably 50/50, from there on I can use footwork to side the bear and hit its vital spots. With a jaw hit or something to knock its brain around, I can build up damage until the bear falls down or passes out, then it's pretty much over and I can just beat his head open.

There are several accounts of human's fighting, surviving and some even defeating bears in hand combat, which proves it's actually possible. Of course I'm not even considering mental aptitude here besides my human brain capacity, but I'll also be free to choose the day and moment of the fight, where I'm in my absolute best condition and the bear is not. I can also use surprise attacks or scare him into protecting his life and making stupid, wasteful moves, and thus exposing his vitals for specific hits. I can pack heavy punches from my boxing experience, and kicks as well due to karate. Karate also allows me to aim for precise or internal damage using proper hand movement and striking precision.

The fact that it's a wild animal makes all the difference, If it were a bear-sized human, I'd have absolutely no chance to win, but in this case the probability skyrockets. Animals have survival instincts rather than fighting ones, and will protect it's life more often than not, which is a huge mistake when fighting a martial artist.
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>>81240521

why would you think that? you never made fun of someone's lil' pecker before? are you crazy?
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>>81241018
Go to bed chippah.
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>all these people falling for the "dude animals are so scary lmao xDDDD" meme

Animals are literally retarded. There's a reason they're the ones in zoos and we aren't. I could kill a bear myself.
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>>81241018
hate to break it to you but straight men don't picture the dicks of anonymous guys on the internet
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>>81238837
>tfw you will never snuggle with a lion
I just want to scratch one behind the ear and be buddies 4 lyfe.
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>>81227426
>Realistically, could the average man outrun or hold his own in a fight with a bear?
No, they have fucking claws and a giant superstrong fuck you jaw and fangs. You'd be dead in seconds.
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>>81230493
holy shit, whoever directed this pile of shit should be put to death
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A bear vs. da bears
who wins
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>>81241444
Heaaart Deezeez
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>>81227547
>burn the forest down
Nigger tier logic
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>>81240575

You vs. the bear
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>>81227838
>an average human could never in a million years beat a grizzly 1v1 without a weapon

Just ram your fist down it's throat, the bear will flip out and run off. It's what forest rangers recommend.
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>>81227426
>>
>Realistically, could the average man outrun or hold his own in a fight with a bear?

no
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>>81241886
Good luck doing that before it rips your hand off.
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>>81232836
>>81233973
>>81227454
question marks don't belong at the end of statements you c*cks
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>>81242065
why did you quote this >>81232836
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>>81229596
lol never take the reptile. predatorial mammals kill them all the time, they know exactly where to bite it's brain and immediately kill the animal. If it was caught on land it would get fucked up by a lion, let alone a grizzly. The croc would run to the water and then the mammal wouldn't follow.
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>>81236286
it was part of his plan
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>>81242025
You just got to be fast when you do it or it could get messy
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>>81242100
whoops I dun goofed. nice dubs.
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>>81230442
You're fucking retarded, Gorillas ain't shit when it come to large predators
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>>81233747
Who knew crackbabies were so dangerous?
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>>81231469
>real nigga from the block

He hit it and quit it with Mary, what's that tell you?
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>>81242417
no chill nigga lmfao X'D
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>>81232530
>shitskins and chinks

Excuse you, but literally all of the demand for endangered animals is due to Asians. Leave us melanin enriched motherfuckers out of it.
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>>81232643
They have a Steak and Egg McGriddle? Where!?
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>>81227426
Born and raised in Alaska. Seen a large brown bear easily hold a 25mph run on the side of a highway and that wasn't even a Grizzly or Polar bear.

Can a human get lucky as shit? yes. Does a human realistically stand a chance? Fuck no. Bears skulls are small caliber bullet proof. Use all the thumbs and sharp sticks you want, you better be accurate and fast as fuck because you get one half of a chance before he just lays on top of you and crushes your entire skeleton before eating you alive.
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>>81234162
That bear should really check his privilege.
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>>81235569
That sounds like the secret to killing a Tiger: simply bite the inside of its right back paw with your left incisor, and hold for ten seconds. Easy, right?
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>>81227674
I'm sure a bear is no match for an educated and fit man who is knowledgeable about physics and whatnot so he can gain advantage over the bear, who is literally just a dumb animal.
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>>81237533
They set it out to sea with Bin Laden's corpse
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>>81240575
This is some top tier bait. Bravo
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>>81230938
surprised this thread is still up

see >>10361124
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>>81243270
shit, let's see if this works

see >>>/gif/10361124
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>>81242885
This. Physicists have been known to kill Grizzly bears rather easily 1v1 due to their superior intellect.
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>>81227547
>improvise some sort of weapon (or rudimentary lathe)

>a bear is charging at us, how quickly can you fashion together a rudimentary lathe?
>it's take at least an hour...
>you have 7.8 seconds
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>>81228077
turns out, it was a little monkey fella that did it
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>>81228036
Post them, I want to read about some pajeets getting their shit pushed in by animals
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>>81227516
There's a video out there of a video coming out of hibernation, and they can barely stand. The process of waking from hibernation happens over weeks as the bears muscles slowly come 'wake-up'.
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