What is this movie about?

>>81216328
It's a documentary.

>>81216328
It's about (((them)))

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It was a metaphor for Donald Trump being a bigot and whites controlling everything.

>>81216328
More like "who" is this movie about.

John Carpenter revealing his power level

>>81216328
>>81216362
>>81216367
It's about *insert political ideology here* controlling the media and manipulating the truth to control you.

>>81216400
You're "Them" aren't you?

Jews. John Carpenter is a crafty one, however, and "denounced" this theory because he enjoys the shekels they throw him to make moofies.

It's a criticism of yuppies and capitalism.

>>81216469
>It's a criticism of jews and capitalism.

My take from it is that it had a cool premise let down by a silly third act.

Like, I get that goofy action was a thing in the 80s but the 10 minute Roddy Piper/Black Guy "PUT ON THE GLASSES NO I DON'T WANT TO" punch up went on for way too long and looked like two drunks fighting over a nudie pen then everything was downhill from there.

>>81216354
That theory seems really quite plausible despite Carpenter's protestations.

Although my take was it was a more of a taxi driveresque take on that. By that I mean the narrator isn't to be trusted and the entire thing is a delusion more or less, with the protags killing actual humans. Although I don't think that's what Carpenter had in mind, there's very little to suggest it's all a delusion.

It's somewhat unfortunate Carpenter dismissed such interpretations, especially because there are so many angles you could go with this as >>81216400 is saying (I think). You could insert any ideology.

>>81216487
Yeah, it does go a bit downhill and that scene is way too fucking long indeed.

>You could insert any ideology.
I know, right? Consumerism has no ties to any particular system, especially not capitalism. The bank shooting was an arbitrary choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18qD9hmU9xg

It's explicitly anti-capitalistic and anti-establishment, like every remotely political movie Carpenter ever did. The idea that you could replace capitalism with another ideology and the movie's metaphor would function the same is idiotic because it's central conceit is about the wealthy elite.

>>81216362
Oh god. This can't be real. Wew.

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>>81216328

>>81216487
>>81216509
That scene was one of the best parts. What are you guys on about?

It's a pretty boring movie desu save for a few scenes
Definitely not one of his best flicks

>>81216779
They're idiots that don't understand how vital the camp was to the film.

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>>81216328

>>81216779
>>81216881
Goes on for too long.
I get the appeal of it being silly overdrawn, but still goes on for more than a few seconds too long

>>81216982
you're right, but you're arguing with the same people who just yell MUH SATIRE when someone points out how overblown parts of it are

same goes for starship troopers

>>81216328
Jws

>>81216449
>>81216392
>>81216367
>>81216354
As much as a i love the jew theory I really don't think it's the case. I remember when Roddy piper used his glasses and one of the billboards said 'BE GOOD AND PROCREATE' with a white family or something along those lines.

>>81216487
That fight scene is the way it is because Roddy Piper and Keith David rehearsed that fight scene like crazy and John Carpenter liked the idea of having an epic fight scene in a small budget film.

>>81217098
I am still waiting for people to point out 'jewish imagery' in the movie.

>It's an "oh boy here we go" thread episode

>>81216764
kek

>>81217021
When dealing with inherently absurd premises that function as metaphors for society, you need the camp and humor to keep the material from becoming overly self-serious and consequently much sillier. Carpenter and Verhoeven understood this better than anyone else except maybe Joe Dante.

That scene has nothing to do with the satire, btw, though the satire couldn't adequately function without scenes like it.

>>81217098
>>81217146
>t. jews

>>81217146
I'm pretty sure that the simple idea of any sort of global conspiracy is enough to get a certain portion of the population to start making "JOOS" accusations.

A little over two hours

>>81216328
The wealthy elite controlling everything through propaganda and the working class fighting against each other because of moronic ideas like racism, etc. A basic but somewhat well crafted leftist message.

The fucking fight scene never ends

>Put the glasses on!
>Put them on!
>Put the glasses on!

Jews

>>81216400
Woah, watch out everyone, we've got a RADICAL CENTRIST in our midst!
Please teach us oh wise one, if of course, you deem us worthy...

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>>81216328

>What is this movie about?

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>>81216328
The upper class controlling the lower class through propaganda.
Racist morons mistake the upper class with the jews.

>>81220275
Riddle me this.
What defines you as working or middle class?
Is it cultural or economical?

>>81220275
Class is a social construct.

Anti-semitism has always been anti-capitalism.

>>81220308
bit of both. I didn't even realize I was "working class" until I made friends with some uni students

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>>81221031
wasn't he a bit touched in the head?

>it's about muh evil capitalism!

Carpenter sure didn't mind the fact that it was used to sell movie tickets at $8 a pop.

>>81221003
Are you british or american?

>>81221279
You know they had movie in the Soviet Union right?

>>81221451
Australian

>>81216354
(((they)))

>>81216415
Put on your specs

>>81216328
Jewry.

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>>81216487
>>81216509
>>81216982
>>81218787
The fight scene is meant to symbolize the average person's refusal to wake up to the fact they are being controlled, most fight the truth really hard, it's not that complicated but a crucial part of the message.

>>81216328
Its about "le ebil cabitalists that exploit the poor workers" and not about the kike controlled quasi communist government that does exactly that violating people's liberty.

>>81221279
Yes, movies paid with other peoples stolen money.

Can someone explain why hidden jewish higher ups would give a shit about race mixing? Like seriously what do either of these things have to do with each other

>>81216341

this

>>81216764
lmao

jews

>>81217228

Why does your kind always spell "Jews" like that? Are you afraid of people seeing you say Jew?

>>81223367

To destroy the cohesion of society until it is nothing but isolated consumers.

>/tv/ retards now hate the fight scene
>it's too long, where are the explosions?
I shouldn't even be surprised, this place is at its all-time low.

BTW, it's probably the greatest fight scene ever. Worst case, top 3

>>81224367
What are your top 3?

>>81216367
>not who, when

>>81224513
4. Megatron vs. Optimus Prime (Transformers: ROTF)
2. The Bride vs. The Crazy 88 (Kill Bill Vol.1)
1. Ozymandias vs. The Comedian (Watchmen)

>>81216509
>That theory seems really quite plausible despite Carpenter's protestations.

he didn't make a movie about jews, it just happens that the people he made it about are mostly jews

>>81216328
Ideology from the trashcan

>>81216328
reagan is a big, fat meanie: the movie

>>81223093
>it's a "/pol/ muh Jews conspiracy poster who also doesn't know what communism is" post

>>81221143

Yeah, pretty much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLMDA9IGRtQ

>>81225681
It's not just /pol/. It's basically every liberal as well.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18qD9hmU9xg

>THEY LIVE
>THEY EVIL

pottery

>>81226377
How can one man be so utterly based?

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A bit off-topic but are there any movies where an ethnic minority rules over a majority and uses occasional incidents of violence on the minority as a way to keep the majority in check? If not, could such a movie be made without invoking 'them'?

>>81227830
planet of the apes

>>81216400
>>81216509
>insert any ideology

It's about Reagan, they even have a skull-faced guy who looks like him on tv.

>>81216367
Jews

>>81223792
>I'm pretty sure that the simple idea of any sort of global conspiracy is enough to get a certain portion of the population to start making "Jews" accusations.
There, now can you actually address the point instead of nit picking my word choice, you fucking baby?

>>81216354
(((capitalists)))

>>81216328
the JOOZ

>>81216328
It's communist propaganda.

>>81220275
>unironically being a socialist
You should all be shot desu.

>>81216764
see >>81228845

JIDF fuck outta here

>>81216328
it's about corporations and professionalism. anything that becomes too institutionalized is bound to attempt mass control.

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>>81229186
>ironically being a fascist
You should kill yourself.

It's about Reaganism and the attitudes of the government at the time, although of course there's a group of people who think it's Jews.

Anyone that's not a complete retard should be able to tell it's about capitalism.

The whole Jew thing is just classic stormniggers missing the point like always

>>81231092
Who are the controllers and greatest proponents of the current capitalist system?

>>81231092
"capitalism" is asking how
"jews" is asking who

>>81230829
>being against socialism is facism
sure did activate my almonds

>>81231084
I can't tell if posts like these are ironic or not anymore.

>>81232265
>people with different political views than mine should be shot
>this is not fascism
really gets the noggin joggin

>>81231259
consumers

>>81216764
ayy

>>81232289
what he said was both correct and was completely dry with no humour. why would anyone believe it's ironic? are you dumb or something?

>>81216328
(((They))) Live

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>>81216362

>>81220275
Well yeah, when you outsource everything and insist on hiring shitskins its trickle out economics.

Kikes are colossally over represented in the highest levels of society.

>>81231092
>its bot about jews its about jews!

Yeah, we know bud.

8 o'clock in the morning.

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>>81216328

Juden.

>>81216328
About the right wingers.

Reagan's consumerism

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>>81216328
Is this a redpilled movies thread?

>>81216764
heh

>>81216328
It's about time you watched the damn movie yourself and stop posting this thread and asking stupid questions that's what it's about!

>>81220380

Nice try. Capitalism suffers from extreme nepotism and monopolies, and "who" thrives on that?