Why Hollywood's writers might be headed for another strike

Hope they go on strike, they will expose the late night hacks like they did last time, and it wasn't Leno

>>81176816
>$194,478 per year
>$181,267 per year

I will never understand how people could possibly complain while making wages like this. I make ~$120,000 a year right now and I literally have more money than I know what to do with. I grew up poor, so maybe that has something to do with it, but even still this just seems so ridiculous to me.

>>81176945

Gotta have dem dere multiple properties in prime locations to rent slave people.

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>>81176816

What was it they got last time? Pay increases if they worked on a show for more then a few years?

That just lead to writers getting fired after a year, and shows dropping in quality as a result

>$194,478 in 2015 and film writers earned an average of $181,267 that same year
What the fuck. It would be understadable if every script they produced was the next War and Peace, but the quality of screenplays in Hollywood movies is dogshit. Fire all these cunts

>>81176945
Because they're probably spending half of it on rent (gotta live in the best part of town) and the other half on drugs

>>81176945
They probably live in areas with prices adjusted to that level of income. Also coke, whatever other drugs they take,

>>81177203
the rent would have to be 10 thousand a month. I doubt it.

Who will write our shitty summer blockbusters now?

>>81177108
Keep in mind the hot chick from Big Bang Theory gets paid $1 million per episode

>>81177291
>>81176816
so is this before or after taxes?

Fucking hell, I'm a VFX artist and barely make like 30K a year.

>>81177271
You'd be surprised what can people ask if they know the other party has got it.

>>81177391
>Hollywood
>taxes

The place is full of Jews. Those taxes will be marginal.

so theyre complaining that less shows are padding out their length with filler, damn jews

>>81176816
>shitty writers make a 6 figure income and they're bitching

I fucking hate Hollywood.

>>81177271
>>81177203
>>81177497
I'm sitting in Hollywood right now and I'm currently in the process of looking for a new apartment. Prices are steep, but there are definitely FAR more expensive cities in America (NY, SF etc). Assuming you don't have kids, you could live a fantastic life out here on 180k. Going by yearly salary/40 (standard housing spend), you would be able to spend a max of 4.5k a month on rent. I can find tons of 2 bed/2 bath units on apartments.com in just about any LA neighborhood in that range. I know fuck all about childcare costs but I imagine you could easily raise a family here on 180k as well.

>less work
>less money
>protest

Literally communism.

>>81177291
she's hot, she deserves it. maybe if the writers were hot they'd earn more? too bad they're mostly schlubby white males.

>>81176945
thats how much they make from one script they sell for a movie, writers sell a movie script maybe once every 2 or 3 years if they are lucky and often times studios just buy the scripts and shelve them just so another studio cant make the movie

>>81177704
>you could live a fantastic life out here on 180k

Yeah. But how extravagant would it be?

>>81176816
Good. They're worthless anyway
Let the fresh blood come in

>>81177704
Just move to the where the Mexicans are.
t. lived in highland park

>>81176816
>TV writers earned an average of $194,478 in 2015 >film writers earned an average of $181,267
WAT? I always thought movie-makers earn several times what TV-makers do

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>>81176816
>Guy on the far left is wearing a CP shirt and having way too much fun
>Wanda Sykes (black lady, between the man and woman who are right in front)
>The two women on the far left are both repping Dipset on their shirts for some reason

>>81176945
why wouldn't you demand to make as much as you could?

>>81177873
They're all lesbians

>>81177085
didn't they start getting royalties for streaming, DVD sales, etc. rather than just network syndication

>>81176816
Gibs me da money for writing le funny quip scenes xD

I hate jews so much

>>81177853
TV writing is a regular gig with salary, while most film writers (unless you're hot, up and coming one with high demand) are freelancers where they are lucky if they sell one big script every couple of years.

Burn down Hollywood, it's the only way.

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>Film is at it's worst state it's ever been, with cinema attendance at an all-time critical low
>Movies flopping
>Nothing but garbage remakes
>Writers want to strike for MORE money

>make $200,000 a year
>strike for more money

>>81176816
I don't get it, why don't Hollywood let those writers go (if they strike) and hire new writers? Legitimately asking, by the way.

>>81181517
Contracts. They can't "let them go". I'm serious btw. Writer's Guild or whatever their union is called and all that shit.

>>81181296

Well, when you look at how much the producers, actors and directors make, they're not that unreasonable. Every movie needs to have a script. Even if all these blockbusters etc. are critically shat upon and shit, most of them make hundreds of millions worldwide. The super big ones gross over 1 billion.

Isn't it fair that the writers get paid more too? The movie WOULDN'T exist without them.

>>81181517
if you are a scab, union thugs come in your house and break your legs, true story.

also there are probably some laws now that prevent hollywood from hiring non guild members

at least there isn't anything good running that a writer's strike would kill

Besides there are enough bought and shelved scripts that a strike is completely meaningless.

>>81181634
This would be the case if writers actually deserved the money, but they've been doing nothing but churn out garbage shit and remakes.

>>81176816
I hope they starve. Maybe it will give them some ideas that aren't fucking garbage.

>>81181634
The other side of that is someone was paid obscene amounts to write bayformers, the DCEU, etc

>>81181712

It's a very competitive industry. It's either that or not get paid. It's funny how creative people can never, ever do something for the money.

>>81181712
oh right, because it's the writers who decide what movies get made and not the studio heads, who just push for more remakes and sequels because they're safer and far more likely to make money than original ideas.

Someone got paid to write Boss Baby.
Fuck (((Hollywood))), let that shit burn

>>81181650
>>81181600
I never got that shot American culture. Are union workers really THAT violent?

>>81181761
>don't write shitty movies
>shitty movies don't get made

... so how are the writers not to blame here?

>>81176816
>TV writers earned an average of $194,478 in 2015 and film writers earned an average of $181,267 that same year, according to an earnings report released by WGA last summer.
fucking kikes

>Hollywood
>writers
So just transcribing comic books into screenplays and writing remakes of already-popular material is considered "writing" now. These hacks really think they deserve even more money? Top kek.

>>81177727
>often times studios just buy the scripts and shelve them just so another studio cant make the movie
this is what I learn form entourage

>>81181808

You should look into how many scripts are written every year, how many are sold and how many are made.

Would maybe change your opinion a bit.

>>81181774
No, this isn't a 1940s gangster movie. If any Union fags came to my house, they would get shot.

>>81181774
Yes. They are SJW (not the same as what we think of social justice on the internet) and all SJW are fucking insane.

SJW have been using violence (even bombs in the 60s/70s) to advance their cause.

>>81181774
For decades the various mafias ran the unions.

>>81181856
90% of them are adaptations of little known comics and novels/short stories/foreign movies. YOU look that up.

>>81181856
nobody is going to sympathize with you

>>81181856
T.hack hollyjew writer

How's that new Superman/Power Rangers crossover script coming along? I heard Harry Potter might make a cameo. Fucking awesome bro. Can't wait to tell all my reddit friends.

>>81181634
>Well, when you look at how much the producers, actors and directors make, they're not that unreasonable. Every movie needs to have makeup. Even if all these blockbusters etc. are critically shat upon and shit, most of them make hundreds of millions worldwide. The super big ones gross over 1 billion.

>Isn't it fair that the makeup artists get paid more too? The movie WOULDN'T exist without them.

In a good capitalist system there are no useless people involved in making a movie, if they were valuable they'd be getting a raise on their own without needing every writer to strike at once. If I was Hollywood I'd just have HR break out the scripts sent to studios and hire the writers of the best ones as scabs.

>>81181863
Nah, you would piss your pants and cave in like a good little cuck.

I've been intimidated by a union worker once. He had 4 guys backing him up. It was fucking scary and he didn't even hurt me, just told me to act a certain way or else.

unions were a mistake

>>81181929
>5 guys back you into a corner
>you don't beat them into submission

pussy

>>81181929
Oh god and the voter intimidation shit, that stuff is just blatantly illegal.

>>81181929
I don't live in commiefornia, I live in the most gun-friendly state in the country. Coincidentally, we've never had this history of "union thugs" that LA and Chicago have had.

>>81182015
They're called "The Government" there.

>>81181600
Not that anon, but wouldn't the contract contain how much the individual got paid? How can they strike against something they agreed to?

Isn't the writers strike why LOST s3 was pretty bad

>>81182043
Because it's in their legal rights to negociate an update to a contract if some outside circumstances have changed, I think.

>>81182069
Nah, it was always a bad show build on mysteries that never had an answer, only other mysteries.

Screenwriters fear the animekino adaptations which will lead them to still having their shitty jobs as waiters forever.

>>81181905
>This entire post

W E W

>>81176816
Unions will try till kill another american industry.

Last writers strike gave us this kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD3u8f_hchU

>>81176945
>I will never understand how people could possibly complain while making wages like this

If you're making way more money off my labor due to changes in the market then I want more compensation for my labor. I should just be happy I'm making X even as you are now making a higher percentage of the profit due to an outdated contract?

The per EP fees are based off the older network 22-23ep like season model and that model is starting to go away. More shows are just getting short 13 ep runs on Cable/Streaming. Shows like Legion only ran 8 eps.

so they want more per an ep being networks are looking to limit the ep numbers to keep front end cost down. Then make it back with streaming and other income options. Stuff I'm sure is not represented well in the current older contract.

You and I write a bunch of eps of say The Blacklist under a network contract for 23 eps. Then make money off the show on network tv and that's fine. THEN they go sell it netflix at I think 2million an ep? What did we as writers get for that? Do we have a per stream pay scale like we might have for reruns? Did we just get fucked out of that money being the network would rather get money from streaming?

the profit is still coming it, we are just being cut out of it due to the old contract..

>>81182171
Not an argument.

>>81182199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of9kHpCv1ts though

maybe they should stop writing fucking SHIT

>>81182205
maybe you should just be better at your job if you want to get paid more faggot

>>81182205
No, you are being cut in the profit as there are tons more shows being produced, even if they are making smaller seasons.

The simple fact is that the movies are dying, but writers are having a ton of work since Amazon and Netflix are spending billions making shows to stream.

If you strike you will just push more shows to be reality tv since those writers are smart and are not unionized.

How much work did you writers lose just with the show Cops, let alone all the clones of it, that came about from the strike two times ago.

Go ahead and sob that you are not getting enough money and then reduce the amount of work you have even more.

>>81182015
CA here. You are still able to defend yourself with a gun because they know they can't change the surprisingly good laws without looking horrible. You're even able to chase people to a degree when you're the one getting attacked.

Then again if looking horrible stopped the lawmakers here they wouldn't have added all those gun laws year after year.

>>81182205
Why are writers deserving of a bigger cut of the profits but nobody else involved? You're just disgusting greedy Jews and I hope you all get replaced by someone cheaper.

>>81182331
why do you faggots have to hit enter after every sentence? it's so annoying to read like that

>>81182385
I do it to trigger you.

It worked.

>>81182385

Because it annoys you.

That's why.

It's the only reason.

It's all because of you.

YOU are THAT important to our lives.

>>81182406
people just don't read your post then

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>>81176864
Leno just paid writers out of pocket, all his jokes are shit. He's good at bants and delivering though.

Conan was a writer himself, so it was just him winging it every night.

I don't remember what happened to the others

all of hollywood should go on a mutual break to overthink their whole system, maybe stop shitting out twenty lackluster movies every single month. that strike won't do any bad.

>>81182385
Because anon hated walls of text. Make up your mind anon, you indecisive fuck!

>>81182428
By people you mean just you. But you did read that post. So you're a lying liar who lies.

>>81182432
Craig Fergusson was the same as always.

>>81182483
I only read the first line desu

>>81182372
This. Imagine if these faggits had to work at real job with real competition in an industry that won't get bailed out by big government if it fails.

>>81182372
>>81182532
Whats worse is that to get a "writing" credit doesn't necessarily mean having WRITTEN the thing. Scripts can go through multiple rewrites with just minor tweaks.

>>81181863
Yeah ok, with the gun laws in HellA its more likely the thugs have guns rather than some libtard producer.

>>81182372
>Why are writers deserving of a bigger cut of the profits but nobody else involved?

Contract negotiations are per-union. I would imagine the other guilds have similar concerns, but they can only be addressed at their own negotiations, when their contracts are coming due.

>>81181650
lmao the us will become brazil soon

>>81181650
No, just contracts.

Most actors are SAG or related unions. They won't let the actors work unless the writer is union, the grip is union, and so on.

The costs are getting so high that there will be a "come to Jesus" as the studios are not making enough money for the millions invested, as it high risk and many times you would be better off putting the money in a index fund.

>>81176945
Give me some money please.

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>>81177271

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/the-income-needed-to-pay-rent-in-the-largest-cities

get fucked

>>81176945
Because producers make 5 times that and doesn't do shit

>>81185686
>doesn't do shit
How would you know? Writers aren't even involved with the show, they just steal old material and send it in, then strike when they don't get enough money every few years.

>>81176816
This time I actually won't miss any TV shows though

Hang all union leaders.
Gas all union workers.

>>81186546
They really are a bunch of kike parasites. If you ever deal with these sorts of people, you see them as the braindead insects they are.

>>81186144
I was thinking the same thing. At least there were good TV shows for them to keep hostage last time, now though the only thing I've seen new in almost 5 years was an 8-episode miniseries.

I hope this delays Star Trek: Diversity even more.

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>>81176864

> Be Comedian
> Can't write your own jokes

I've read better writing in a RaimiSpiderman thread than 99% of mainstream Hollywood blockbusters

Writers shouldn't strike when literal morons can out write them for free

>>81186643
Honestly theres enough spare brass and cordite lying in storage. Russia is using Syria to get rid of their old bombs, America should use all their spare shit to kill unionists.

>>81176816
lmao, these people should strike when they actually make good products, they aren't even like real workers that deserve strikes when they are getting fuck by corporate Jews.

>>81176816

the balls of these fags ... they are as replaceable as backpage hookers and still have the fucking guts to strike

how come?

>>81186943
jewish greed

>>81185614

> Cities in Texas affordable as fuck.

I'm never leaving SA.

>>81177752
extravagance = sickness and early death

>>81181929
>or else.
Up up up?

>>81187507
You live the same amount no matter how long you're on this earth.

>>81187563
That's retarded, just sleeping one hour less or more each day makes 5 years of difference in lifespan.

>>81187357
Til you get deported.

>>81187594
>that's retarded
>posts something idiotic as a counter

...

>>81187615

I'm an African American citizen

>>81187623
t, retard

>>81187623
Anon, there's funny ignorant and there's what you wrote.

>>81177291
Penny brings in way more viewers than the writing.

>>81187594
... that's an equal exchange yo

>>81176945
>I will never understand how people could possibly complain while making wages like this. I make ~$120,000 a year right now and I literally have more money than I know what to do with
120k isn't much for places like NYC, or LA, especially if you have kids and are the breadwinner.

That being said, TV shows and movies generate hundreds of millions of dollars which are ultimately the creation of writers who only get paid 1% or less of the total generated revenues.

>>81177108
>but the quality of screenplays in Hollywood movies is dogshit.
doesnt matter: suicide squad was by far the worst movie of 2016 and yet it made something like $700,000,000

quality of products is irrelevant in capitalism.

>>81189067
it worked for ghostbusters