How do you Defeat It? Or at least not get killed by It?

>>81157852

Attempt to seduce It. Carry razor blades in my anus.

I kill myself and have someone bury me in the pet semetery, than I resurrect I track down Cujo and Christine and procure them both.

In my new car with my new dog, I team up with the Sometimes they come back guys and form a ghoul crew.
My ghoul crew and I track down the mangler and use our ghoul powers to control the demon.

Now we are ready to face IT.

>>81157852
Furiously masturbate until your dick starts bleeding

>>81158000
That's a pretty interesting scenario, but I doubt you'll have any trace of your old self. Remember that anyone resurrected from the Native American burial ground comes back as a twisted and depraved creature.

I do admit, the idea of being reanimated and having a ghoul dog and a possessed car against Pennywise is awesome as fuck.

>>81157852

Run a train on a prepubescent girl.

>>81158133
>That chapter

Oh god pls no

>>81158209

If your choices are wandering a sewer until you starve to death or die of thirst or fucking the girl, I'm pretty sure I know which you'll choose.

>>81158000
>die
>get ressurected
>aquire new doggo ghoul friend and a murderous car to fight an evil clown

this is kino

>>81158133
That was quite possibly the most retarded thing I ever read in middle school. I saw the 1990 mini-series one night and borrowed the book shortly after. Everything was good up until that point.

>>81158242
Well obviously any straight guy would. But there's other ways of calming down and finding their way in the sewers than running a train on the token girl in their group. Oh and did I forget there's a fucking monster that's lurking in there, but that's all okay because we're forging the bonds of adulthood in a gangbang.

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According to the book, a magical turtle can defeat it.

So I'd keep the pocket turtle Jeb Bush gave me (pic related it's me)

>>81158300
The question is, can Pennywise control your zombie self? Or does the outside force that reanimated you negate his powers?

>>81158364

How to inspire enough fear to eat the kids in the middle of a friendship bang, though?

>>81158133
Prepubescent children don't even think about sex like this. 100% a Stephen King Pedo fantasy.

Well in the Dark Tower series a creature of the same species is killed with two shots to the head.

>>81158528

Isn't it heavily implied that Beverly got the idea from her dad constantly talking about it? And it's obvious she strong-armed the boys into it, so...

Doesn't IT always come back to life decades later?

>>81158556
It was so unnecessary to the plot. Stephen just wanted to get his dick hard.

>>81157852
I haven't watched the original in a long time but I remember thinking you could literally just avoid it, like not go in the sewer or going looking for him. If you see him like don't go towards him and go the opposite direction

>>81158608

Personally, I felt the blood oath after they got out was perfectly fine to seal their bond. Didn't need the sex scene.

I don't get the thinking of making the clown look scary/creepy from the get-go.

Isn't it supposed to lure kids in? Making it creepy right away turns people away.

>>81157852
isn't he supposed to some sort of primordial being or some shit?

>>81158367
The turtle can't defeat It you retard. He's too slow and kind to do that.

>>81157852
>cant kill you in a crowd
but thats wrong bucko. he ltierally brings a statue to life to try and smash ritchie in the center of town.
also bev runs through the streets while IT drives her dad insane and all the townspeople either dont notice or get up and go inside.

>>81158624
Ain't no blood like hymen blood

>>81158692
Fuck was that actually part of the book? I haven't read it in a decade.

>>81158637
Because that's whats "in" for the time period, shitty remakes with "life-like" makeup or cgi and redesigning the villain. It's all about making it scarier and badder

>>81158608
>It was so unnecessary to the plot.

Not only was it "unnecessary", it was just plain stupid, and completely out of place for the story.

King is a hack, and the fact that he's sold millions of books is a testament to how shitty the taste of American "horror" fans truly is...

>>81158823
I completely agree. I got memed into reading a few of his books over at goodreads (never using that shit again). They were written like fanfiction. King is just a weirdo.

>>81158716
She literally tells the first one he has to put his thing inside her. The fat kid ends up having a huge cock. The stuttering kid doesn't stutter when it's all said and done (he got sloppy sixths). All this to "bring the group together" and then they make their way out of the sewers and take a more conventional blood oath to come back if IT isn't dead.

>>81157852
you just gotta start yelling bird names. its really that easy.

>>81158910

Also, for some reason, the phrase "He thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts" is super effective.

>>81158367
Also dead by 1985. Unless it comes back to life on its own

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>>81158823
Are you trying to tell me young children don't like to have raunchy sex?

>>81158556
The day she and the rest run into the sewers her It influenced dad was going to rape her to see if she had already had sex

>>81158585
Pennywise lives is spray painted on the losers memorial in Dreamcatcher and Insomnia the old man can see an evil auro coming from the sewer.

>>81158948
>>81158910
Honestly the inconsistencies with the powers IT is supposed to have is just beyond irritating.

IT is supposed to eat the flesh of humans. Ok. Pretty plain and basic.

IT prefers to scare the victims because "it makes the flesh taste better". So perhaps it's SLIGHTLY an emotional vampire, in this instance feeding off fear, but it's main thing is eating the flesh or at least at most it's 50/50 flesh/fear.

After all if if was JUST an emotional vampire it would have ZERO reason to kill and this would in fact be detrimental to its cause. Why have to get a bunch of other kids scared of you when you already have one you could torment during the night to the point where it gives you all the fear you want? Then when it grows up you start on another kid.

Georgie's arm gets ripped off. It can teleport, shapeshift, cause illusions, etc.

Why not teleport right up to an individual member of the losers club and rip their arms off? IT gets in extreme proximity to all of them at different times.

There is zero reason IT couldn't have murdered all of them one by one.

I understand the "IT was just toying with them" explanation up to a point, just like he presumably did with other kids BEFORE MURDERING THEM.

Why bring Henry Bowers in to it at all? How can IT rip a humans arm off then all of a sudden not have any power to kill them? It's obvious it is not a mere corporeal monster it does have a physical aspect to it.

>>81159207
They were being guided / protected by the turtle. It's rival.

>>81157852
how much do you want to bet they probably compeltely redo the giant spider ending?

>>81159266
By the time they're adults the turtle is dead.

>>81159299
Turtles live long

Having a gangbang duh
Or giving a handjob/blowjob to your best bud

>>81159402
It's explicitly stated the turtle is dead when they're adults. IT tells them that and Bill sees that yes, it is indeed dead when he does the ritual.

>>81159299
And missing one of their circle and worried if they can even stop it again let alone "forever".
Part of the turtles magic is still with them though and has helped each one of them become successful and rich in life as soon as they get away from Derry. Cept Mike cause he stayed in the poison town.
Even then they lose another member trying to fight It and presumably use up their last bit of turtle power.

>>81159462
That's the shittiest fucking excuse for it not to be able to kill them but able to kill whoever else. Even still that only explains it for the book and it's dark tower tie in with them killing it "serving the beam" and the kids being the chosen champions of the beam's guardian.

Doesn't explain how he doesn't just start ripping them apart in the movie.

>>81158528
>Prepubescent children don't even think about sex like this.
You must not remember being a kid.

>>81158000
I SMELL POTENTIAL FOR A NEW CINEMATIC UNIVERSE! REMAKE EVERY STEPHEN KING MOVIE AND THE THEM TOGETHER CAPESHIT STYLE!!

>>81159691
I was 13 when I started wanting to have sex. Well after puberty had begun.

>>81159673

Yeah, especially if he feeds on fear. Rip one of them limb from limb in front of the others and their fear will consume them. Easy pickings.

>>81157852
>how do you survive IT

You don't unless your a Loser who can mantle CHIM

>>81159770
They could do it with the dark tower movie if they wanted to

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#notmypresident
#donalddrumplikeshidaughter

okay guys now read this smut!

>>81157852
If home alone can beat two how hard is if to beat one you pussy?

>>81157852
Lure IT into the car from ABuick 8 and hope the car turns into a dimensional portal at that moment so IT gets trapped on whatever planet that was. Maybe it will like allium meat better than human.

I melt my mom's silverware and bathe my katana in it

>>81158528
>>81159691
Yeah the thing is they actually do as crazy as it is. Once a kid learns what sex actually is, they immediately begin thinking about it. It can happen in a number of different ways and at anytime, but it's true.

>>81159152
And in Tommyknockers a character travels to Derry to get batteries and sees him in a storm drain.

>>81158532
Only from Roland's magical Big Irons though. Bills dads handgun didn't hurt IT at all.

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>>81159909
Good goy. Little girls DEFINITELY want their ass ploughed.

>>81159878
Shh.. nothing personel, it.

>>81157852

Whatever that faggot teacher was called in the book where he goes back in time to save Kennedy, he goes to Derry and meets Reggie and Bev, and its implied that It tries to pull him into the sewer subconscioisly.

>>81158608
Well it's not uncommon for children experiencing extreme psychological/physical trauma to think about/perform sex, although I highly doubt King was aware of this or trying to portray it as such

>>81160080
Maybe. King is a deviant though.

>>81158367

The Turtle was one of the guardians of the beam in the Dark Tower series.

>>81160080

It's already confirmed King meant it as a metaphor for growing up, although why he chose that, out of a thousand ways to symbolize growth, I have no idea.

>>81159207
IT always follows the rules of the monster it is. So if you are scared and think monsters eat people, then he's gonna eat ya.

>>81158528
>>81159691
>>81159782
>>81159909
I read the book when I was pretty young (about 13) and I thought the sex train was weird and a little embarrassing but also powerful, for lack of a better word. Nothing I was reading or anyone I was talking to would have ever talked about something so sexual with young kids (around my age) like that, and it felt like it was important because they were so close from this experience in every other way, they also needed to have this final bond to show that they were, in a way, completely grown-up after this whole experience. The battle against It was something that nothing else in their lives was ever going to be stronger than, so sex had to be a part of it to make the coming-of-age complete. I dunno, that's how I remember feeling, like it was important that the kids weren't shielded from ANY experience and you couldn't even imagine anything else in their later lives being a stronger bond.

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Georgie a qt

>>81158099
>a twisted and depraved creature
so no differences then

>>81160178

That's not Georgie.

>Bev's dad tells her to stay away from them boys
>She doesnt
>Gets a train ran on her

Was her father really a bad guy?

>>81160208

A train she started, mind you. The entire thing happened solely because she guided the boys to it. Her father was right to fear her becoming a lewd woman.

>>81159096
>Are you trying to tell me young children don't like to have raunchy sex?
As a matter of fact, they really don't like it.

>>81160283

Know this from personal experience, do you?

>>81160239
We need a tie in where the thing from it follows is a demon baby brought forth from the gang bang happening where pennywise lived

>>81160315
Yeah, I was 8 and it wasn't as good as loli/shota manga tell you.

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>>81160283
You're telling me young girls *don't* like having a train ran on them? Well that's preposterous!

>>81159928
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>>81159900
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>>81159857

Disgusting. I thought the first post was the only one but there is several pages dedicated to a story about little kids fucking in order to escape a sewer(????)

Dirty bastad

>>81159673
Well the turtle picked them and not the others for some reason.

In the movie wasnt it affected but their imagination more than just the fear?
This is Battery Acid!

>>81160368

Most manga of that kind, the kid is older, but I doubt that makes much difference. If you're telling the truth, my sympathies.

I mention the child orgy and pretend it didn't make sense within the context of the 900 pages I had read prior.

>>81160392
Nah, they fucking love that.

>>81160394
At least he gave the poor fat kid a huge dick and let him cum. It's not really sex if you just put the tip in and wiggle it around like the others did.

>>81159207

It can only be active for a limited time and is extremely arrogant.

There's also the implication that when he makes a physical appearance, most of his power comes from the fear or hatred of the people he's in front of. If he doesn't properly terrorize his victims and their able to draw on their belief/inner strength.

He only goes in for the kill personally when he's confident he's got their prime fear. Outside of that he tends to manipulate or drive people to kill each other/themselves.

>>81159207
He's a spider clown. Their very nature is to be a japester.

>>81160433

He's a jumped up boggart, then?

he is the crasher of planes and bringer of friends. you can't kill him, only delay him.

>>81160433
>extremely arrogant
>only goes in for the kill when he's confident

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>>81159928
>>81159916
>>81159900
>>81159885
>>81159867
>>81159857

>>81160537

more like
>extremely arrogant
>thinks he can pick and choose when to pick them off for the least effort/risk

If he was all about safety he would have manipulated the entire town to turn against him like he did with the bully and (implied) Bev's dad.

stephen king confirmed pedophile

>>81159691
I never really wanted that but i suppose people developed it because theyre influenced by society

Can someone explain why they had a gangbang, how it got them out of the situation they were in, and if its comes completely out of the blue or the kids are sex pests already

>>81160637
So how is it they were finally able to physically confront him and rip his heart out? He rips the gay kids arm off in the final battle and can't do that shit to the rest of them?

Time for Pennywise to visit Hawkins, Indiana, and hunt the kids from Stranger Things.

>>81158000
That's pretty metal

>>81160728

Beverly believed it would help them get out of the sewer after beating IT, so she manipulated the traumatized, vulnerable boys into having sex with her.

>>81160730
Because they werent gay

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>>81160728
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>>81159096
I think this Bev doing it is totally believable

IT'S HAPPENING

>>81160845

No way in hell. No studio would allow it and everyone involved would be arrested if it happened. Assuming the actors didn't just quit.

>>81160786
Is there any pretense to this? Was she right? Literally shaking.

Real talk what would happen if they just shoot the fucking clown.

>>81160920

Well, they got out, but there's no proof they couldn't have without doing it.

Not believing his powers?

>>81160944

If they really believed it would work, it'd kill him.

>>81160998
What I said is possible?
>>81160981

>>81158613
>If you see him like don't go towards him and go the opposite direction
Didn't work for Eddie Corcoran; he was the 1st murder victim of 1958 in the books. He saw IT as the Creature of the Black Lagoon and it chased him down until unfortunately, he tripped and it caught him. He thought it was a just a bad dream or it was a dude in a costume until the Gill-Man's claws pierced his carotid artery and he died.

>>81161030

Not that much. Stan doesn't believe in IT at all, but that doesn't stop IT from nearly eating him. You have to use your belief as a weapon, not just avoid believing at all.

>>81157852
>but the novel implies that It might have killed Stan Uris even though he was in Georgia

I thought he was too scared to go back to face IT and killed himself

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People say the creature is supposed to look friendly to lure kids in.

But real talk who said this will be a close adaptation to the book/movie. Pennywise might aswell be a psychopath killer who dresses like a Clown

>>81158637
This was WAY before John Wayne Gacy and the meme that clowns are actually psychotic killers. In 1958, clowns were fun to see as a kid because it's associated with carnivals. Or Bozo the Clown and Clarabell the Clown on TV.

>>81157852
>take 3mg Xanax
>no fear
IT can do shit

So can someone explain to me how having a gang bang defeat Pennywise?

>>81161294
They have it after they defeat it like a victory lap

>>81161319
What the fuck. Why?

How did they defeat it?

>>81158608
This. When I used to do coke, it made me horny as a motherfucker.

>>81161335
They take a slingshot and a chunk of silver and hit it with the silver

>Underage gangbang
>Heterosexual

Ah yes, shall not.

>>81161376
That's actually fucking stupid.

>>81161393

It was some effort to convince them to fuck HER, much less each other in a time when queer shit was social suicide.

>>81161393
They run a train on her. No DP and the guys don't see each other's dicks

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>>81161368

Is IT worth reading?
I don't mind King, read a dozen of his books, but this shit is like a gorrilion pages long and the premise doesn't exactly sound exciting

>>81158687
>also bev runs through the streets while IT drives her dad insane and all the townspeople either dont notice or get up and go inside.
Well that could be chalked up to the townsfolk thinking that it's a kid running away from being disciplined from her dad. This was the 1950's and child abuse wasn't quite the hot topic button yet.

As for the Paul Bunyan statue incident, I chalked that up to Pennywise toying with Ritchie. It taunts him by saying that it could get him right now but it's having too much fun. It was mind-fucking with Ritchie, but trying to kill him outright was something it was bluffing. Pennywise casts partial amnesia and disconnect on adults, but something as blatant as open murder would be giving away too much.

>>81160134
"I think monsters are big-tittied brunettes who want to just cuddle and fuck all the time!"

>>81159462
>Cept Mike cause he stayed in the poison town.
Why the fuck did he stay in Derry? Especially as a black guy in Maine during the 60's and 70's?

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>read It (from the school library, of all places) at a young age
>feel really freaked out by everything in the story but love the book for having such an impact on me
>people only ever mention Tim Curry in the miniseries, no one else really talks about the book or the fucked up shit in it, feels like a personal secret adventure I went on that's slightly embarrassing and private
fast forward to 2017
>even before the trailer hits, in every thread on the new movie it's all KID GANGBANG KID GANGBANG
It's a weird feeling. The internet is strange.

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>>81161478
>Kids that are horny as fuck getting killed by a clown that is actually a lovercraftian God.


How exactly doesn't this sound fun

>>81161565
KISS ME FAT BOY

>>81161478
well you certainly won't enjoy it with that attitude

>>81161608
The 'kids' part

>>81161580
In case It came back, duh. He spent a lot of time doing research and forming theories and connecting the dots about its patterns. I think there's more in the book about why he never left, but in the end it's a vague kind of mystical-fate "just ended up that way, because it had to" kind of thing.

>>81159817
So Geordie, Chris, Vern, and Teddy from The Body novella would all be dead if they wandered into Derry like OP theorized?

>>81161595
at least they are not talking about Bowers getting a handjob by his faggot friend

>>81161580
>how did 6 white kids end up successful but not the black

Gee I wonder

>>81161431
Thank you

>>81160368
How big was he?

Did you take it to the hilt like a good little slut?

>>81157852

Doesn't matter what you do. Pennywise can coerce the weak minded to do his bidding, like Henry Bowers. You might never see a killer coming.

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>>81161734
>Patrick Hockstetter wants to do gay stuff
>ends up with one of the most horrifying deaths in the book
What did King mean by this?

>>81161580
Well technically he even says that it wasn't really up to the kids. Parents get jobs here or family moves there. Mike's dad had a farm.

>>81161813
How'd he die

>>81160043
Well shit, I gotta read that book now.

>>81161171
Yeah, I believe it was more of him too afraid to face IT and too ashamed that he broke the blood oath.

>>81161580
He was the light keeper

>>81161853
google it, fag

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>>81160201
It is. Pennywise is using him like a puppet in their basement.

>>81157852
By not being a bitchass little white boy

Niggas would just sock that dumbass clown

>>81161941

Fuck off, clown, I won't be fooled.

>>81160891
You're correct, but it was in the first couple versions of the script and by the 4rth version that leaked it's poorly implied.

>>81162047

There's a lot of ways to imply it without outright stating it.

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>>81158000
Best plan
REMOVE CLOWN

>>81161712
Only if they crossed its path. Not every kid dies in Derry. The boys in Dreamcatcher all lived in Derry while It was active.

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>>81160891
She probably wouldn't quit if Finn were the only one she had to film the scene with

>>81162080
To be fair they had psychic powers and could probably beat the shit out of IT physically and he definitely wouldn't want to do the ritual against them.

>>81162106

Then Finn would quit.

>>81162148
Because he's a faggot?

>>81161171
Remember how Stan's wife found his body in the bathtub? And how IT travels through sewers and pipelines? Or how for some reason, the word IT was written in Stan's blood on the wall?

There's 2 possibilities:

1) Stan wrote IT before committing suicide for some inexplicable reason
2) Pennywise visited Stan while he was taking a bathtub which scared the shit out of him to slit his own wrists. Pennywise was the one who wrote IT with Stan's blood.

>>81162106
He should be Stan, not Richie.

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>>81158000
Checked.

>>81162177

Because he's fifteen and not old enough to be doing a scene like that.

>>81162080
>>81162144
So how would Danny or Halloran from The Shining do if they were in Derry while IT was awake?

>>81162200
He's the only actor that are cast by both Funkunaga and Andres Muschietti (the current director), so he must be really good as Richie in the audition
I could see him being Richie after watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_UmWwUV8f4

>>81162295
Halloran was in Derry while IT was active and alnost died when IT convinced the local KKK to burn down the club him and the other niggers from Derry owned.
He saved Mike's dad and then probably fucked off from Derry.

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>>81157852
So how do you stay alive?
Have a gangbang with all my childhood friends.

>>81158000
>than

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>>81158133
from what book and what chapter is this? asking for a friend

Like Freddy Krueger, the only way to defeat It is with IMAGINATION.
You must basically imagine a weakness for It and then believe hard enough till you convince yourself that said weakness is 100% legit.
That's why kids have an easier time against It, they can wholeheartedly believe that a silver bullet could seriously harm a shapeshifting eldritch abomination because of their innocence. Adults are too logical to believe in something like that.

>>81158000
Amazing.

>>81160353
>Be Bev
> have sex with all your friends for killing IT
>finish off Bill for the last one
>as she's about to get up
>Pennywise pops up
>"My turn" says the clown
Ohshit

>>81157852
>What's worse is that the adults and authorities can't help you. Pennywise has control over them and can even turn them against you if it wants.
You see this is probably the scariest thing of all in IT. All those child murders and disappearances aren't reported on state or national news because Pennywise doesn't allow them to. And that's pretty damned terrifying as a kid to realize the grown-ups can't and won't help you because the monster is pulling their strings.

In fact, living in Maine in the Stephen King universe is the epicenter of you're gonna see terrifying shit. Jerusalem's Lot is infested with vampires that slowly venture out to creep on humans in the surrounding towns. Besides Pennywise, there's all the shit that went down in Dreamcatcher and Insomnia. And Castle Rock had a demon set up shop besides a rabid dog attack.

>>81162680
BEEP BEEP

>>81162680

That's just as bad for the boys as her. She gets her daddy and the boys get the leper.

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>>81160108
>The Turtle was one of the guardians of the beam in the Dark Tower series.
>Jeb Bush was Champion of the Turtle all along
We've elected wrong guy.

>>81162295
Danny succumbs to fear and later anger and alcoholism. Either Dan or Abra after the events of Dr. Sleep would be able to withstand IT but no idea how they would react to the dead lights.

>>81162492
In some ways, IT is easier to kill than Freddy. Using your dreams to fight against Freddy only stalls him so that you can escape. You can't really "kill" him in the dream world because that's his domain and he's at his strongest.

Against IT, you can plausibly believe that you're a Ghostbuster or one of the Winchester brothers and kill Pennywise.

>>81162451
>That being said, apparently overcoming being lost in the sewers can only be done by having six 11-year-old boys sequentially fuck an 11-year-old girl... by her invitation.

>Seriously, the gang has just brought about the end (At least they believe so) of a pan-dimensional monster in mortal combat. They've slain something that's claimed thousands of lives in their town in the most gruesome manner imaginable, but suddenly the concept of tunnels is just too much to overcome without a sudden, magical orgy.

>And it's all the girl, Beverly's, idea. She realizes that the group needs "bringing back together" and the only way to do that is to lose her virginity in a mass hump session.

>To be fair, it's actually portrayed with a lot of love, certainly in comparison to the parade of sexual atrocity that's preceded it on this list, but no matter how many references to affection, bird-watching, lazy days spent reading funny books, or poetry, it's still seven pages of a grade-school group sex session. Its sheer randomness lands it the top spot.

>Did I mention the Bill Denbrough, the guy that gets sloppy sixths, is pretty much a transparent stand-in for King himself?

>>81157852
Run a train on our one girl friend with all my lads, to be honest, famalamdingdongpai.

>>81157852

You can't unless Stephen King writes you defeating Pennywise. Pennywise can cause amnesia in anyone. The only reason why the kids were spared and even able to hurt Pennywise, was because the god of the macroverse (Stephen King) wrote it that way.

If Pennywise existed in the real world, no-one could stop it.

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standing up to it seems to work most of the time.
It came close to killing most of the losers club on several occasions but they didnt let the fear overwhelm them and fought back. It also likes to fuck with them, when it could have killed them but there are passages where IT is described as being afraid of them. It feeds of of fear metaphorically and literally. once a child is scared out of their mind they become delirious or confused and that when it kills them with the help of its deadlights that stun them I guess? IT also says fear salts the meat and makes them taste better

then again belch and victor tried to fight it in the sewers and it rekt them

>>81158133

was it hot in the book at least?

>>81161376
No that's how they beat it off when it's a werewolf. The first defeat is when bill goes full child ritual psychic on IT

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>>81162451
>>81162863
See >>81159867

>>81162863

Not really. The boys are tired, scared, and emotionally vulnerable after their encounter with Pennywise when she tells them they have to fuck.

>>81162832
>then again belch and victor tried to fight it in the sewers and it rekt them
Did they? I thought IT just got the drop on them and saw them as nuisances. Surprised it didn't kill Henry.

>>81157852

you know that pennywise the scary clown is just an apparitional manifestation of a cosmic spider from outer space, beyond the limits of our universe, who dwells among the deadlights.

pennywise is a lovecraftian eldar god, probably azathoth, the deadlights are age and memory loss and the horror beyond non-being, the source of evil itself as we know it, an arbitrary beingness monstrous beyond our ken.

the deadlights are a realm beyond the physical, euclidian bubble in which our universe rests. it's as if we're all flies, inside a giant bubble of spider webs, and we can only fly so long before we get exhausted, and inevitably caught in the net of this lovecraftian entity who waits beyond time for us. pennywise is just a shape in front of a shape in front of a shape in front of something shapeless.

>>81162832
Not fearing It prevents him from growing stronger but you also need to come up with a way to kill him that you actually believe in.
Eddie Corcoran from the book kept insisting that It was fake as shit and got killed anyway, Victor and Belch didn't run away and tried to fight him but they still thought they were going against the Frankestein monster and thus should have known that they couldn't kill him in a fistfight.
On the other hand, the Losers Club thought silver would harm him because silver always harms supernatural beings so they forced It to incorporate that weakness into himself and get harmed.
Honestly, the best way to beat It is to lock him into a form that's easy to defeat, either because it's a shit form like the giant eye or because it has a clear weakness like making turn into a vampire in the middle of the day.

>>81162993
You can't LOCK it into a form it can change at will it merely looks for the most frightening forms for you individually and chooses that.

>>81162993

IT can never be killed, only driven out from a local area for an infinitesimally brief moment in the greater span of things. that might be a year or a century, but IT has waited 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years without growing impatient, it can wait a little longer to get you.

>>81163088
>it can wait a little longer to get you.
What's worse is that if it can't get you, it CAN get your children or any other descendants. Time is on its side.

If you think about it, that's probably the reason why none of the Losers have kids despite being in their late 30's. They subconsciously realize that if they had children of their own, Pennywise might target them.

>>81163081
Yes you can. When he faces the Losers Club in the Neibolt Street house he starts taking different shapes and then Riche shouts "It's a werewolf!" and suddenly everyone sees it as one, which allows them to hurt him with the silver bullet.
Arguably this only worked because there were many people at once facing It, but if your greatest fear has a weakness that you know of then you could use it to fight It and force him to fuck off.

>>81162993
>This is battery acid you slime!
>Asthma inhaler fucks up clown.
>stupid clown doesn't know what an inhaler is lul

>>81159770
So, where do The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile fit into the Kingverse?

>>81163171
Like someone said before, imagination is your greatest weapon against It.
If you believe hard enough in anything, you can use it to fuck up It, thought in the end it takes the ritualistic physic turtle fuckery to really kill him (and even them novels set after It imply Pennywise might have survived his final battle against the Losers).

>>81161880
It's implied that Stan is legit psyhic and knows the future. So he knew the call was coming but IT had Affected him mentally more than the others so he couldn't take it and killed himself

>>81157852
summon turtle
ask him for help

>>81163221
Well i know one of the guys that throw the gay guy over the bridge where pennywise kills him gets sent to Shawshank.

>>81163147

time is most definitely on IT's side. IT existed before time.

IT's only natural opponent is 'the turtle', who also existed before time, and is also infinitely patient. our universe rests on his back, so to speak.

we can reference these two as 'panphage pangenitor', the dual Pan, all-consumer, all-creator. existence is something like a digestive tract where the turtle makes and the spider eats.

in that sense, the turtle isn't really even our friend. it's just one side in a constant gnawing in which everything we know and do is just a brief gasp before being eaten.

but, The Turtle does in fact guard 'the beam', which i suppose is one of the structures that hold up the multiverse. there's nothing we can do except fight to keep it all together, even if we're doomed.

the scariest part was after Henry threatens to tell Patrick's secret about trapping small vulnerable animals in a refrigerator and leaving them to die by suffocation, Patrick leaves to dispose of the corpses but is attacked by It in the form of several winged leeches which makes large holes in his body. He falls unconscious due to blood loss and shock. When he awoke, It had started eating him. He was killed in late July.

>>81163380
That kid was more disturbing than anyone else in the book. I hate fuckers who torture and kill animals. That scene with the puppy made me sick to my stomach. And how he suffocated his baby brother because he felt that his existence was being threatened was akin to Macaulay Culkin's character in The Good Son.

Nigga just imagine It is a faggot and then fuck her ass.

yes It is a female (female)

>>81163504

yeah that was the worst part. and then giant mosquitos suck his eyeballs.

You know what part of IT was scary as fuck? The fact that it was pregnant; what kind of spawn would THAT be?

Am I the only one who was more affected by It's depressing themes than the horror bits?
That whole deal about growing apart from your friends and eventually forgetting about them and the best moments of your chilhood as you grow up and go on with your life was sad as shit.

>>81162889

Nvm, read it all got a semi, especially when the kid with the huge cock made her cum.

>>81159770

Most of his books are interconnected thru The Dark Tower.

>>81163684

And now you float down in the dark with the rest of us.

>>81163622
>That whole deal about growing apart from your friends and eventually forgetting about them and the best moments of your chilhood as you grow up and go on with your life was sad as shit.
It is a coming-of-age story with a monster. It's a lot like Stand by Me. In the book, the Loser still hang out after they defeat Pennywise, but eventually drift apart because they all move away with only Mike left. How many of us lost friends over the years by moving? I had a good buddy named Zack that left in 5th grade. I can't even remember his last name and would have to dig through my yearbooks.

I graduated HS 8 years ago and I've lost touch with most of my childhood buddies except for 2. That's what life is; friends move on and memories fade.

>>81163797
I know but it's depressing anyway, specially in the last chapters when they all want to keep in touch with each other and remember the times they spent together but they know that that's impossible because the magic fuckery is already making them forget everything.

>>81163881
Yeah, the amnesia is kinda fucked up because what about Eddie? His wife must be going nuts because her husband is missing. And the fact that they're gonna forget about him and their other dead buddy Stan is what makes it a pyrrhic victory. If you aren't remembered, it's as if you never existed. All that time they spent is wiped from the slate.

This day and age, it's easy as fuck to get in touch with people thanks to Facebook and other social networking. But back in 1985? Good fucking luck. So I get what you're saying about how haunting the last chapters are. Everything they've been through and they all forget one another.

>>81164059

A man dies when he is forgotten.

>>81164059
Even nowadays it would be useless because even if you have a Facebook friend called Bill and a Whatsapp contact with the same name, eventually you will forget who the fuck that is or why you have his info and just stop talking altogether.
Fuck, by the end of the book Bill takes a while to remember who the fuck is talking to him when Mike calls him one last time.

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>>81158528

I thought about sex as a prepubescent child.

And they're right on the cusp of puberty.

>>81158823
I absolutely 100% agree with you.

All of his books are full of disgusting dialogue with scummy phrasing and swears every other word. It's a fucking travesty he's as popular as he is now.

>>81164250
Yeah you think about sex. You don't convince a bunch of guys to fuck you back to back.

>>81164301
I guess you didnt hang out with the right girls

>>81158608

There's a lot of things "unnecessary to the plot" that are included in books and movies. Stories aren't just plot machines meant to be wound up to get from point A to point B.

The whole sections about the history of Derry are "unnecessary to the plot", but they are vital to the novel. In fleshing out the setting, in describing It. And digging into the themes of the book.

The sex act was weird as fuck, but a big part of the novel is about the transition from childhood to adulthood. That's what the whole scene is about.

>>81164264

>All of his books are full of disgusting dialogue with scummy phrasing and swears every other word.

it's almost as if he's a talented fucking writer, who would have thought?

you'd have hated Shakespeare if he was alive. oh man you would have hated him.

>>81158528
A lot of the Beverly-focused chapters where about her dealing with sex and all the shit realted to it that's alien for a child of her age.
Her father weird questions and claiming that she fucked all her friends (which she ended up doing because of that comment), watching Henry and Patrick jerking each other, etc.

>>81159782
I was popping boners and jerking off at 7

>>81162952
it ambushed them (as the Frankenstein monster). it punted victor's head off and then belch tried to fight it off and it ripped his face off. allowing Henry to escape

>>81164441
That's not normal.

>>81164392
She lets her father influence her into fucking a group of guys? It's not like that empowers her or anything. Is this portrayed as a good thing in the book?

>>81164499

She's an impressionable child who acts out what her father keeps telling her she's doing.

>>81164499
why don't you read the story? you're just badgering with fingers in your ears.

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>>81162993
>>81163171
>>81163236
pennywise is on the same level as freddy kruger. It uses your worst fears against you and can alter reality to attack you
on the flip side, if you believe in something strong enough and dont get overwhelmed by fear you can use your imagination to fight it

IDK king was high was shit through out most of the 80s, I cant explain it beyond that. He doesnt even remember writing Cujo

>>81160150

This. I read the book at the same age. Its always funny seeing people talk about how weird it was, but it captures something fundamental about being that age.

>>81164499
She doesn't let her father influence her.
She spends most of the parts of the book where she is a child slowly learning about sexuality through different sources, one being his father who is so posessive that he thinks he is fucking every boy she even talks with (it's also implied he lusts for her).
All of this leads to the sex scene in the sewers where she realizes that's what they need to do in order to regain unity as a group at the price of losing their chilhood and turning into adults or something like that.

>>81164441
And look where you are now.

>>81164562
I'm not the other guy. It was a simple question that I don't want to have to read a whole book to have answered.

>>81160948

>no proof

Eddie literally had no idea where they were until after they finished.

>>81164603
Why do they need to fuck to gain unity? This is such a stephen king thing.

Does the book every say if Beverly is a qt?

>>81161501

The entire history of the town goes against this. The people turn a blind eye to the things that go on around them. They pretend not to see because that's what It wants.

>>81157852
I never got a chance to watch the tv show so I dont know jack shit about it.
and I dont wish to read Steven King books because they are normally filled with pedophila, random depraved sex acts, and silly shit tossed in there because it was the 1980's and what else was you planning to read that you could borrow off your annoying uncle on the weekend.

And since Torrent sites dont seem to wish and carry a file of IT, nor does Netflix give a fuck and have it, I guess ill just say the only way to kill IT is to not see it.

>>81162080

It wasn't active in Dreamcatcher. It was asleep then. They all grow up and move way inbetween cycles.

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>>81160178
I still can't get over how tryhard scary they are making Pennywise. The few times Pennywise shows up in the book he's not scary because he's overly monstrous. He's just creepily surreal and that makes him ten times scarier. But it really depends on how they do the Georgie scene. Georgie shouldn't be scared and be more like"wtf that's weird" instead of "holyshit there's a killer clown in the sewer drain." Otherwise Georgie would just run.

>>81158000
Do you all run a train on Christine?

>>81164708
Grows up to a gorgoues model then successful designer. Firey red head.

>>81164301

I also didn't have an adult attempt to rape me as a child.

I did not watch some kid beat off another kid after lighting farts.

I did not spent a summer fighting Lovecraftian horror from space.

Why the fuck are we talking about "normal?"

>>81160845
Same, the movie might look like dogshit but they did a good job with the casting.
This girl definitely looks like she'll suck nigger dick in college.

>>81164672

Not everyone in the world thinks sex is meaningless.

>>81164985

She needs long hair to be true to her book portrayal

>>81165001
Nice non-answer.

>>81157852
Have underage gangbangs.

>>81164800

It looks creepy in the trailer. But we see all of 1 second of his appearance in that scene. The entire marketing is playing up how creepy he is. But I think we're going to get a more even performance.

Someone found an image of a more innocent looking Pennywise too

>>81161078
Eddie's death was so sad
>Brother has head caved in by father
>father doubles your beating to the point you pissed blood for 2 weeks
>get bad grades so you don't go home
>Dead brother crawls out of canal and turns into Gill-man
>Decapitated while searching his back for a zipper

>>81164777
Ah my mistake

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>>81165018
new movie is set in the 80s instead of 50s when they are kids
short hair was in for girls in the 80s

>>81165057
He was born under the wrong star

Reminder Finn is (allegedly) afraid of clowns. So his will (supposedly) be an example of method acting.

>>81165018
True but nothing screams "independent empowered woman who uses her sex to get what she wants" in 2017 like a short tomboy haircut

>>81157852
Man, the new Pennywise looks so fucking bad.

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>>81165050
this one?

>>81162863
The gay handjob part of the book was pretty hot.

>>81165031

They were brought together by an otherworldly force. It brings them together, and gives them power, though some of the power to fight It comes from them.

After It is stopped the first time, they lose that power. The force of the Beam or Ka or the Turtle goes to sleep too. Leaves them. Because whatever that shit was, it brought them together to stop the monster and they did that, albeit temporarily.

So they were lost. Disconnected from each other by the absence of the thing that manipulated them into being friends in the first place (there are points where they talk about feeling a click whenever they meet someone who is "one of them", versus always knowing that lisping asshole kid didn't belong)

Bev hit on sex as an idea. Something that would make them all closer as people. Its sort of a dual thing in that its meant to unify them, and its also a "coming of age" moment as they transition out of childhood.

Its weird, but it should be. This is not normal, but nothing these kids go through is normal.

So they have sex. Its something outside of all of the manipulation from whatever cosmic forces wanted them to come together to destroy It. And it gives them the unity needed to get out.

So there's your real answer.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u6KXFN9dIg
i do like the trailer

>>81162410

How did you possess a literal semen demon as your friend?

>>81157852
So much shilling. Will pirate when the bluray comes out. Not worth your money.

>>81159207
I think this guy hit the nail on the head:>>81160433

IT has a superiority complex, it severely underestimates the losers even when they are kids. I guess IT's toying with them is akin to IT working up an appetite, perhaps it takes great pleasure in doing so. It also seems to me, that it can only truely be a fatal encounter if you truely fear IT. I havnt read the book for a long time, but from what i remember, the times when the losers are most confident and least scared is when IT is most weak, and almost unable to attack.

I also believe IT is in actuality, not as strong as some, including itself, believe it to be. If you can keep your deepest fears in check, and approach IT in a confident manner with a gun (or any object YOU believe will damage IT), then you have a good chance of beating him.

I think alot of IT's strengths and weaknesses are psychological. I might be basing this on nothing, but i think if you believe the weapon you hold will truely damage IT, then it most likely will.

Obviously the whole flaw in this concept is that keeping your fears in check will be alot harder to do in real life. If he took the form of an Alien, I would be terrififed. Ghosts and zombies dont bother me so much, but some Alien film i've seen scare the shit out of me. And that the worst thing about IT. Even stuff you cant remember you're scared of, IT will conjure up such an illusion, and bombard you with it in the most unsettling manner possible.

I am very interested to see the new film. I like the original alot, but IT is too amusing to me than scary. I think the new IT has the potential to be terrifying, and less slapstick (not that the cURRY DIDNT HAVE HIS SPOOKY MOMENTS).

I really need to read the book again as well. I love all the stuff to do with the turtle, and how IT has been around since the beginning of the universe. Great, grea,t fantastic imaginative stuff.

>>81165419
>It also seems to me, that it can only truely be a fatal encounter if you truely fear IT
Eddie Corcoran got killed even though he believed It was nothing but a dude in a costume till the end.

>>81165212
Maybe so. It just seems repulsive.

>>81165551
>not being terrified of dudes in costumes

>>81165579
I don't remember but was he actually terrified of It? He tried to run way but when It catched him the kept trying to find the zipper in the "costume" instead of shitting his pants.

>>81165630
maybe he was terrified at the thought of it not being a man in a suit

>>81165057
This is why certain people shouldn't have kids. Why the fuck would you abuse your own flesh-and-blood like that? They didn't ask to be born to be beaten up and verbally browbeated.

>>81165571

I mean its weird as fuck.

But I read this book when I was 13 and it made sense to me then. Weird, but the characters were so real life.

>>81165709

Why would you beat and constantly harass your daughter and then try to sexually assault her?

Does anyone wish they would have had sex when they were a child? I feel like I missed a developmental milestone.

>>81165731
That might be because from the perspective of a kid sex is more of a mysterious thing than something to be ashamed of like adults.

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>>81165269
Clever as fuck
CIA edit when?

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>>81165667
KINO

>you will hit puberty again and have your hormones so out of control that you can pretty much cum by looking at a cute girl and thinking about banging her

Felt good man

>>81165762
That too. Shit like this makes disgusted at society.

>>81165787

Define "child".

>>81165842
When I was 11-14.

>>81165551
>>81165579
>>81165630
>>81165667
Either way, even if it was just a guy in a suit or the actual Gill-Man, Eddie was scared to the bone when Pennywise appeared as his dead brother. The fact that something that looked like the Creature from the Black Lagoon was coming after him made Pennywise all the more stronger from the latent fear.

>>81165419
So what if it dealt with a kid who loved reading Greek mythology and truly envisioned themselves as Diomedes of Argos or Theseus of Athens and treated Pennywise as part of his hero's journey to be a badass? No matter how fearsome Pennywise is or what form it takes, the kid idolizes Greek mythos so much that he truly believes that he's the hero of the story and his scout knife will decapitate the clown as a trophy of valor. Does Pennywise fall to this kid's blade or will he lose interest for easier prey?

>>81166014

Pennywise becomes the Hydra. Good luck decapitating THAT, kid.

>>81166045
Kid knows his shit and cuts off 8 heads and cauterizes the stumps while he tricks the remaining head to be buried under a boulder.

>>81166099

I would like to see any kid pull that off, especially with just a scout knife. He can believe he's the hero all he wants, but he still has to kill the monster. Unlike Hercules, he's no demi god.

>>81157852
>How do you Defeat It?
underage gangbang. duh.

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>>81165133
looks shit compared to the curry

>>81158000
make pennywise run over an old gypsy lady in his clowncar, then she'll curse him until he gets a kickin' bikini bod and moves to rio with his boyfriend thiago. problem solved.

>>81165078
>violently slaughtered and dragged into the canal
>only evidence you were there is thrown in the river by some black kid who showed up on a whim
Bad doesn't describe his star

>>81166145
Say this kid is autistic or something and is so wrapped up in their fantasy world that the more he realizes Pennywise is real, the more excited he is that he'll become a hero and save the day.

And not even demi-gods were the greatest heroes of Greek mythos. Diomedes of Argos was just a man, but Athena was totally head over heels for him and the Trojans feared him more than Achilles even.

And so long as the kid truly believe that his scout knife or home-made bow and arrow or air rifle or whatever has magical properties that can slay monsters, wouldn't it work?

>>81158637
pennywise never had anything to do with "luring" anything in, It simply feeds on fear

>>81158823
>King is a hack, and the fact that he's sold millions of books is a testament to how shitty the taste of American "horror" fans truly is...

amen. thomas ligotti and laird barron barely make a living off their writing, and talentless shitters like king, dean koontz, and peter straub are living high on the hog.

there is no justice in this world.

>>81166267

Not when the nature of the monster is a giant, head regenerating lizard beast. It would have to just sit there and let the kid kill it to fail.

>>81166289
That's completely wrong as several characters, including Ben and Mike, reference being "drawn" to Its locations

>>81162106
That's one ugly boy.

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>>81166191
You don't even need to go with that one. Curry was just creepy in general which is why he was perfect.

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If Pennywise terrorized me as a kiddo he would appear as The Creeper.

this is canon

http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1644581

>>81158000
Such is life in the kingverse.

>>81164849
To be fair thats the average friday night for some red headed girls

>>81165419

I bet the highest amount of people would be at a total loss if IT showed up as a horrible ghost. If it's a zombie, an Alien or a psycho killer, you'll at least know that it's possible to destroy it somehow, even though you're very preoccupied with not shitting your pants mid-run. Ghosts don't play fair and will stay intangible until you let your guard down, which will happen eventually.

>>81164441
What the fuck?
Is that even possible?

I couldn't even take my dick with my hand, it was si smol (now i'm big, don't worry)

>>81167637
>>81164459
>americans

>>81166765
triple-anal is not canon

>>81157852
>>81157852
This is the hardest shilling I've seen outside /v/, and y'all niggers are falling for it.

Bring back sage.

>>81164441
i was in second grade (age 7-8) when i started watching porn and jackin it, but i don't think i came until i was maybe 10. i literally thought that my testicle would shoot out my dick, and that's what became a baby. i should have gone to sex ed instead of watching alien and aliens.