Is Shin Godzilla worth watching or a meme? Is it as good as the

>>81141470

>Thinking little nippon can handle big monster american zilla.

Merica' strong. He make big boom in your little room.

BOOMBOOMBOOM

>>81141470
Its bette arnd differnt.

I love that murrika gets to do monster fights and gives a free run for th japs to do mor scary stuff and exprimntal stuff.

I hope lgendary gts Gamra

More like Godthicca

>>81141470
Is better with the obvious factor of the production, while not totally amateur the production value of this movie is way below of "Hollywood Standards".

Also helps if you understand what happen in recent Japan with natural disasters.

Shin is Kino Movie
Godzilla is Blockbuster movie

>>81141470
where do those measurements come from? They seem bullshit

>>81141470
One's a film. The other one's a product.
Guess which one.

>>81141470
Shin is far more kino than American one.

>>81141470
The American one is better. Shin is still worth watching though. Shin is very political, sort of similar to the Hedorah movie.

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>>81141470

American one was better.

The thing that always drags Godzilla movies down is the human shit. I really didn't give a damn about the soldier son and his wife in the American one. Shin Gozilla is worse in that regard. Almost 3/4 of the movie is people sitting around in conference rooms talking about what they're going to do. Its clear that was the intention, that too much red tape and bureaucracy causes damage and wasted time. But that "message" ruins the rest of the film. People already hate government morass, we don't need to be hit over the head with it when we're trying to enjoy a huge monster destroying shit and us fighting back. Its like trying to mix a documentary on big business with an action movie, it doesn't work.

The American one did enough to show the human experience and cost without muddling the monster battles too much. Shin Godzilla is just boring. If you've seen the webms floating around on /tv/ of godzilla in the movie, you've seen the only interesting parts.

>>81141470
is Zilla really only 60m?

I thought at least 65-70.

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MUH AUTISTFU.

>>81143801

He had to be small to fit between Manhattans buildings. Some street widths there are extremely tight.

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Shin is a reboot film
2014 is an AVP tier spin-off flick
You can enjoy both of them

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>>81143682
The dad in the American one was amazing. The problem was when the movie switched from focusing on him to the boring as fuck soldier.

>>81143801
the height of murica godzilla is really inconsistent

It suffers from all the issues every live-action japanese film has:

1.) Bad, emotionless acting (Japanese are autistic and can't convey emotion, which is fine and dandy for IRL but for film is required)

2.) Generalized autism. Everything is labeled like it's the room of some 14 year old /pol/ poster. Helicopters, floors of buildings, missiles, etc..

3.) laughably bad special effects

4.) Jumbled plot held together solely through exposition

The actual full-sized godzilla scenes are pretty kino, but much like 2014 American Godzilla it barely appears

Just realized that 98 Godzilla is giant xenomorph.
How did they get away with it?

The first teaser for 2014zilla > Shin Godzilla >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014zilla

Kind of a mixed bag, there is some spine tingling shit but it's strewn amongst a talking head extravaganza devoid of human characterization. Kayoko Patterson is straight out of a mecha anime.

The constant titles are a nightmare if you're watching it subbed.

>>81144126

>Kayoko Patterson is straight out of a mecha anime.

She was the only character I remembered because she actually had a personality.

>The constant titles are a nightmare if you're watching it subbed.

Who in their right goddamn mind thought it was a good idea to identify every hallway, vehicle and random character in the film with a massive hardcoded subtitle?

>>81144286
That would be Anno, something he dragged over from his anime days.

I'm quite sure the movie is self aware of their use though, not that it's a good excuse.

>>81141470
American Godzilla was trash.

The monster in shin looks stupid but it's a superior film to Godzilla 2014.

>>81144644
It's really not. 2014 felt like a proper Godzilla movie. Shin felt like a political ad.

>>81144875
If you're idea of a proper Godzilla film was formed in 1998, sure.

>>81143922
what the hell is a loadshow

>>81144875
I agree and disagree. The moments with Godzilla in 2014 were fantastic, we just got very few of those moments. Shin has more meat on its bones. If they would cut out the human story, 2014 would have been monsterkino.

>>81144875
Nice bait

>>81141470
American Godzilla has higher production value but everything about Shin is better otherwise. Especially the monster design, which updates Godzilla in unique ways such as the "evolution" process as well as the nature of his fire breath, whereas Godzilla '14 just made him look edgier and cooler. It's also structured much better and more in line with the original, focusing on a mass coordinated effort to stop the monster rather than giving a standard "hero trying to save his family" plotline.

>>81144943
You mean 1962.

>>81144974
I agree that the human parts were the worse parts of both movies but 2014 had more meat. Shin had like one good scene with G.

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>>81141470
Shin's arguably the best Godzilla movie there is.

>>81145056
Agree to disagree. I had a lot of hope for the new godzilla movie until they cast Millie Bobby Brown.

>>81145272
>Agree to disagree.
No. You're wrong, and you didn't even explain why you disagree. I might be able to agree to disagree if you had justified your reasoning better.

>>81145354
>Redditor
No one cares

>>81145354
Shin Godzilla had much more screentime and caused much more havoc. Tbqh I don't really care if you agree to disagree. I just wanted to diffuse this conversation.

Is it streaming anywhere?

was a MEGA ever made for the compressed version?

>>81145430
I don't know if he had more screen time minute wise, but he did much less in that time. The only time when he did anything particularly G like was the scene where he filled the streets with gas then ignited it and came up with the laser counter measure.

Shin would have been a good movie if the cut most of the political shit and the scenes that we actually got were just the first half of the movie. The movie feels half done.

>>81141470
its kind of both

mostly seems like weebshit

>>81141553
in shin godzilla they say it's size, i don't remember the rest

>>81145590
I agree that the political satire was overdone. It really is a movie for Japanese people. I thought Godzilla 2014 was much cooler but also less satisfying. Just my opinion though.

>>81143990
>Jumbled plot

How was it jumbled?

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>>81145662
2014 would have been better if it focused on Cranston for the human parts the entire movie. I still think 2014 was better since G performed more meaningful actions, and it had hot kaiju on kaiju action which I generally prefer to G vs Military, Mecha Godzillas being the exception.

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Shin was the first movie that successfully lived up to the reputation the original created and modernized it. The city destruction scene gave me chills and I feel like it evoked the same feelings the original did all those years ago.

>>81143682
The point of the movie was the Japanese taking the reins of their own decision making back from the UN.
Shin Gojira is the better Godzilla movie, you uneducated fuck.
Even the first Godzilla is about the humans and how they react to a monster beyond their understanding, not the monster itself.

>>81145752
well said

>>81145600
>mostly seems like weebshit
What do you mean though? What exactly do you mean by 'weebshit'?

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>>81141470
So on a side note, how the fuck is Kong even gonna fight the American Godzilla? He is still too small.

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>>81143990
>Japanese are autistic and can't convey emotion,

LMAO at ur life

>>81145849
They made it a point to mention that Kong is young and still growing in Skull Island.
You tell me

>>81145752
>Shin was the first movie that successfully lived up to the reputation the original created and modernized it.

LOL, not even close. The original Godzilla movie isn't even a typical example. The second movie is.

>>81145849
They already sized him up and gave him lightning powers in the original Godzilla vs King Kong, American monsters are always Kaijulets, except the Giant Claw

>>81145855
toshiro was chinese

>>81145892
>>81145934
They're going to take advantage of technology with Kong.
Kong is going to be agile as fuck, swinging and jumping around in ways they couldn't do in the original without it looking awful

Shin Godzilla was ass and a complete disappointment, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. 2014 is a better film even if it's not all that good itself.

>>81145978
And it will look like shit, prepare for HAHAHAHAHAHAHA posting when it comes out

why did the matthew broderick one make him so small anyways?

>>81146042
You can dismiss that as being purposely cheese as a nod to the original, like Kong force feeding G a tree.

>>81146094
I was more talking about the quality of the CGI, then again maybe they'll make it like 2014 Godzilla and everything will be dark so you can't see shit anyway

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>>81145934
Still is ridiculous statement. Kong's parents skeletons were about the same size as him.

There no fucking way he will growth much more than that, unless another reason is presented in Godzilla vs Kong, like more radiation or experimentation on the kong island

>>81146175
They did mention Skull Island got nuked before

>>81146175
You can just hand wave it by saying every generation is significantly larger than the last. He can be 50% larger than them, and his offspring can be 50% larger than him. Etc.

I love Bearzilla so much. All I want is a 2 hour movie of him fighting a pacific rim style superbot. No people in the movie except for some extras. Maybe a carrier and some destroyers for fun.

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>>81141470
Just watch it.

>>81146236

They mentioned nuking some islands in the pacific, it was a direct reference to the opening credits of Godzilla. Skull Island never got nuked.

>>81141541
This.

Although, Shin literally re-reuses this so yeah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKCEiNk198E

>>81146670
A SHAFT OF LIGHT IS ALL I NEED

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>>81146923
to blast the darkness killing me from the sky

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>>81146670
>FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>81147082
Once you are done with this scene he will have no reason to watch the actual movie.

Gotta say though, that is my second favorite version of Atomic Breath. (Red Breath is first.)

>>81145085
This.

>>81141470
It is a fantastic movie but if you don't like talking you'll have a hard time.
Shame, because it's a great satire/political drama/Godzilla movie.

>>81141470
Shin Godzilla is great, it provides a new perspective on the beast and also the laser beam is gorgeous.

But, also this: >>81143682
If they combined the human/government part of American Godzilla with the Godzilla part of Shin, it would make the perfect Godzilla movie.

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Just watch it, it's good.

I like 2014 a little better, but Shin is way more rewatchable. The slow burn of the Hollywood human drama is excruciating after the first viewing. Satirical lampooning of japan's broken bureaucracy and disaster response with tons of Eva references makes for a good time, every time.


and that first form is straight out of nightmares

>>81145793
I mean that weebs will watch Japanese shit just because its Japanese

but it wasnt that bad

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>>81145849

They showed Kongs dead parents for a reason

Godzilla and Kongs mother had the same name

>>81146999

Was it just luck he knocked out the bombs, or did Godzilla know/sense they were coming>?

>>81141541
This is pretty much it.

2014 had great production values, had potential, was ultimately pretty boring.

Shin had some dodgy CGI at points, but is very inventive, and has a lot of social commentary on Japanese society. Even if you ignore/can't see the latter, it's a fun action movie with a great score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74fxNHPBnv8

>>81145849
That's a big gun.

>>81143682
>The thing that always drags Godzilla movies down is the human shit
This is also the problem with 2014. Too much time spent on cookie-cutter characters.

Hell, the human characters in 98 were better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TStXCku_f8

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>>81148016
you know, i liked the fish-eyes. It kind of put it in that uncanny valley and made the film that much more unsettling.

>>81148012
>>81148012
I'm fully unaware of japanese society, what was the commentary?

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>>81143990
>2.) Generalized autism. Everything is labeled like it's the room of some 14 year old /pol/ poster. Helicopters, floors of buildings, missiles, etc..
>implying Anno isn't 14 years old on the inside
>implying the whole of the male population isn't 14 years old on the inside
Tanks are cool you fucking CHAD

>>81143990
Is this pasta? Swear I read it before

>>81145752
Did the dead guy from the beginning make gojira?

>>81141470
91 a best

>>81147877
That's the second form

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>>81147082
>>81146999
>>81146670

>>81141470
Yes. It's better than the American one for sure, simply because it's actually focused and knows what it tries to say. The American one just meanders around useless characters.

>>81147961
pottery

>>81145504
>>81145562
I have a friend that saw it in cinemas, but fell asleep before this scene. I am reconsidering having him as a friend.

>there are people that actually think the boring American army commercial featuring bear godzilla was a better movie than Anno being himself on screen for 2 hours
Get >>>/out/

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>>81148117
>tfw you will never play with the hydraulics on the Type 10.

>>81148106
>Considering the film’s pedigree, we probably should’ve expected this deeper level. Neon Genesis Evangelion creator Hideaki Anno penned the script for this new version, and shared the director’s chair with fellow Evangelion veteran and special effects guru Shinji Higuchi. Interestingly, Evangelion also told a story about a bureaucracy fighting giant monsters, but there the leadership was sinister and wily, while in Resurgence they’re just inept and risk-averse. For example, early on in Resurgence the Prime Minister consults experts over the evolving situation, then cherry-picks the rosiest assessments -- the ones that don’t require him to act. You don’t have to be Japanese to understand that situation, but it has extra ring in a culture that dissuades lower-level employees from telling the boss things he doesn’t want to hear. In Godzilla Resurgence the villains aren’t monsters, but indecisive cabinet members who (often rightly) fear doing the wrong thing.

Shin Godzilla put some of the horror back into Godzilla. The burning cityscape, while nothing next to some of the disasters shown in other films, actually inspired awe.

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>>81148261

>>81148287
>>81148106

It’s a criticism that sticks, given the real events surrounding the ongoing Fukushima crisis. When the 14-metre tsunami hit the plant -- which was close to the sea in order to draw water -- it crested the inadequate seawall, swamping the generators and shutting down the reactor’s coolant system. With the water unable to circulate, the super-hot fuel rods turned the coolant to steam and the steam to hydrogen, kicking off three explosions that blew open the plant and scattered radiation far beyond the 20-kilometer evacuation zone. Despite this, both the Prime Minister’s office and plant owner TEPCO specifically avoided the phrase “core meltdown” for two months, instead terming it “core damage.” When bureaucrats from the Prime Minister’s office discovered that radiation plumes had spread beyond the evacuation zone, they hid the data to save face and avoid the political cost of resettling massive amounts of people in the land-scarce Tokyo area. Everyone, from TEPCO employees -- 90% of whom ran from the complex -- to the Prime Minister Kan’s office were in total disarray. When Kan asked his key nuclear safety advisor what to do, he discovered the man had an economics degree and knew nothing about physics. Unbeknownst to the public, the government came close, very, very close, to evacuating Tokyo. This chaotic, cover-your-ass culture among older Japanese bureaucrats is what Resurgence plays off so well.

http://www.zam.com/article/977/godzilla-resurgence-is-actually-a-biting-political-satire

tl;dr Fukushima, government incompetence, mindless deference to authority, posturing and political manoeuvring instead of actually dealing with the problem

There is no Godzilla worth watching really except possibly the original. They are flumpf films.

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If you're familiar and like Hideaki Anno's work, you'll love it. If you're a normie pleb who's never heard of Anno you'll probably think it's goofy and stupid.

>>81148239
>Battle in Outer Space starts playing

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>>81148318
I'd never seen anything by Anno, but I loved Shin Godzilla so much it convinced me to watch Evangelion

What could have happened if USA launched the atomic bomb?

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>Fucking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYJKuOun1Oc starts playing in the middle of a Godzilla movie
It had my attention.

>>81148365
I fucking KNEW that was from Eva.
I was ecstatic when that was playing because it felt like I was watching a live action NGE on the big screen.
This movie was so fucking dope

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I hated her character

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>>81148344
That's great anon. I hope you enjoy it and get something out of it.

>>81148473
The movie was basically Japan trying to deal with an Angel without an AT field.

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>>81148501
well, that is basically the original Godzilla

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>>81148484
I loved it.

>>81148501
Everything from the soundtrack to the cinematography to the giant looming monster just screamed NGE, I don't think I could've asked for a better nip godzilla movie.
This proved to me that Anno isn't a washed up hack.

>>81148484
Misato > Rei > Asuka

>>81145085
it's in the top 3 certainly

without question the best since the 70s

>>81148611
Asuka>Misato>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>Rei

>>81148611
>Rei above inanimate objects

>>81148573
funny, it did the exact opposite for me. Anime is shit, anime cliche and tropes are shit, anime stereotypes are shit. Don't bring that garbage over to live action. Especially not a godzilla movie. Kill yourself weeb

>>81148625
(You) no

>>81148004
the american scientist mentions that he has something like a phased array radar

>>81147961
*Why did you grunt that name?! in Kaiju*

>>81148673
nah it pretty much brought all of the good stuff from anime like amazing imagery and action and left the cringy gay ass shit like little girls, edgy teens and bad writing.

>>81141470
>Is it as good as the new American one?

American one is trash, this movie is great though

>>81148573
proved the opposite really, he can't do anything non-evangelion related and it shows.

>>81148857
What the fuck do you mean?
This isn't related to Eva and it was a critical and commercial success.

It was nominated for like ten different awards and won best picture at the Japanese Academy Awards.

>>81143830
Asuka > Rei

>literally weeb defense force in here trying to defend THICCzilla

wow

>>81145562
You know what's so powerful about this scene?

Everyone was ordered into the subway for shelter

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>>81148611
>>81148626
>>81148628
>>81148903

>>81145590
That's like saying Ghostbusters would've been better without the EPA guy.
Way to miss the fucking point of the movie.

>>81145920
So what you're saying is, you like it when Godzilla is basically Giant Grumpy Superman, and not a symbol of humanity's hubris.
Gotcha.

>>81148998
EPA wasn't super annoying cock-gobbler that got the majority of screen time and used it for pushing a political agenda.

>>81149038
Don't be hating on Showa Zilla. Showa and Millennium are best.

>>81148673
Yeah, the original Japanese Godzilla films never had any anime tropes!!!!!

>>81148848
Genius

>>81141470
just waste time casual watch, it's not good
The way they ended the movie is STUPID.

>>81148954
What does that mean? Does he somehow take out the entire subway system in his rampage here?

>>81147909
So you can't point out why the film being Japanese is in any way a bad thing? Is it a personal bias against any one that appreciates anything made in Japan? Did you live through Pearl Harbor?

>>81149179
The flammable gas is heavier than air. Think about it for a sec.

>>81143682
>Its clear that was the intention, that too much red tape and bureaucracy causes
Yea they're like bureaucracy hurts this and that. A couple of minutes pass with can't turn the neck big monster and again bureaucracy hurts... YOU ALREADY MADE THE POINT YOU STUPID CHINK!
The broke japs only had enough money for theatrics and a cheap script.

>>81149194
But the subways are underground and the movie never mentions the enormous death toll that would have happened if your theory was true. I think you're just being an autist, anon.

Over half of it is about japanese politicians doing nothing. It's for weebs who have a fascination with the way japanese people talk to each other. Godzilla has about 30 minutes of screen time in a 2 hour movie. The best part was whenever the Evangelion music played.

>>81148954
Wasn't Tokyo evacuated at this point?

>>81148559
What makes you say it was the original? Seems more like they were hinting that it was evolving into it's own human race.

>>81149234
No, everyone was definitely hoarded into the subway not too much earlier. The tripfag's theory makes no sense though. One of the main characters emerges unharmed from the subway after Godzilla fucks everything up.

The godzilla cgi is alright. Not as good as American cgi but it has a creepiness factor. The building destruction cgi and other objects like boats and cars looks kind of bad though. Cool soundtrack.

>>81149092
stiff neck + abdomen

>>81149219
>But the subways are underground
You're an idiot. The are underground, but they have surface entrances. That's how people get into them in the first place.

G flooded out enough heavier than air gas to cover the streets in an instant. There is no way it did not also flood the subway system before igniting.

>>81149288
It's not my theory, moron. I am only explaining the anon's point to you because you are too stupid to into basic logic.

The 2014 movie was a nice love-letter, and a great monsters fighting movie.

The 2016 movie was a pitch perfect recreation of the 1955 original, updated for modern times.

The former was a pretty good Godzilla movie.

The latter is what Godzilla needs to do to be relevant in the 21st century.

I liked the 2 minutes where it was like the first episode of Evangelion, with the tanks lined up by the riverbed and everyone getting wrecked

I also liked the design of baby godzilla, but the cgi was god awful, and the execution of the human scenes where they made everything seem really realistic

But the ending was so anticlimactic

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>there are people here right now who don't own this
How can you even pretend you liked the movie?

>>81149336
>The latter is what Godzilla needs to do to be relevant in the 21st century.
A remake devoid of creativity

>>81149328
So what do you make of characters emerging from the subway unharmed moments later? They just got lucky and avoided the gas?

Why doesn't the film make any mention of the massive death toll that would result from something like that happening? The subway people survived. Go back to /r/fantheories.

>>81149369
I strongly disagree

Where can I find this to watch it?

I watched this shit not knowing anything about gojiras moves

When beam scene happened I couldnt shut the fuck up about how amazing it was, holy shit

best movie ever, ending was shite tho

>>81149378
>So what do you make of characters emerging from the subway unharmed moments later?

Poor writing. Even if the fire didn't reach them, it would have sucked out all the oxygen from the area.

>>81149336
The original was much better. Trying to compare the two like that is just insulting.

>>81149461
So now we're arguing physics and not what actually happened in the movie.

Guess what bud, it's not real. It doesn't have to follow the rules of physics. Let me guess, next you're going to start going on about Star Wars having poor writing because of the sound in space?

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>>81149328
I don't see why you'd both post with a trip and insult people for no reason. If your reason for using is a trip is to have people pay attention and take what you say seriously, seems a bit counterproductive

You cock munching mongoloid

>>81149457
mega:#F!t0sFgJqZ!krzR0aRu2bnlFqHDdQbUVQ!Ep1EHZab

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>>81148938
what was that red shit that kept coming out of its gills?

>>81149759
Blood. How was that not obvious?

>>81149759
>>81149788

Blood. Blood. Blood. Blood. Blood. and bits of sick

>>81149755
How... Do I use that?

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>>81149810

>>81149815
Is...that a joke? Just enter in the site like normal and then /paste

>>81149815
Use megatools.

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>Shin Godzilla

HAHAHAHAHA

Only autists defend this shit. Fucking awful. Disgusting. No immersion. Just a cringe fest.

Only contrarian weebshits think this is acceptable.

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>>81149935
Nice maymay

does anyone have a clip of that family getting wrecked?

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>>81149935
This is a powerful delusion here. Not even retardation can account for taste this baffling.

>>81149935
Godzilla's creepiness was the only good part of the film. The cgi for everything else was terrible, the acting was terrible, the soundtrack was stolen, the directing was alright, but the film was half an hour too long and full of japanese political commentary filler. The english speaking bitch was an annoying cunt and most of the characters were just terrible.
It will only be pushed by weebs who think japane can do no wrong.

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Friled shark zilla

the japanese godzilla was great, it focused more on the people organizing together to solve the problem of dealing with a giant monster.

it was considerably more interesting and better visually when godzilla pops off like in this scene:
>>81145562

at first i thought the creature design was terrible, but it grew on me quickly and in the end i enjoyed it's weird fish/monster/campy look over the "it's just a big dinosaur" shit the American movie pulled.

Shin 7/10
US version 5/10

>>81150094
>full of japanese political commentary filler
>he actually missed what the movie was all about

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>>81150094
The CG was hit or miss overall, but the hits are so good you don't even notice them.

Like this scene you can tell the helis are CG but then so is every single building in the shot. That close up of a tank turning the turret is also a CG tank.

>>81143929

This, Jesus Christ.

Did they just not have the money to afford Cranston or some shit?

The son should have died, Cranston should have been the main focus of the film. It would've been a much better film.

>>81150147
I didn't miss it, I just didn't care. I was told to watch this film for the godzilla and I liked the godzilla parts, but there was too much other shit attached to it, like every other godzilla movie. Apparently there was a version that was 1 hour and 30 minutes that was first released and we had to wait for the 2 hour version. I don't know what that's about but maybe I should have watched the shorter version.

>>81141470

I watched it the other night, the CG is shit and its 90% people talking in different meeting rooms with lovely floral armchairs.

Anyone that thinks its unironically 'amazing' is an idiot. It's fun at times, but nothing special.

>>81150191
>I was told to watch this film for the godzilla

You've been told wrong. Frankly, seeing Japanese government in action (or inaction) is far more interesting than seeing cardboard cutouts characters go about saving their lives, their loved ones or whoever. If politics is too high brow for you, fine.

I can excuse the bad effects that appear here and there.

15 million dollar budget to make a Goji movie that's mainly CGI effects? They did a great fucking job.

I also like that Anno once again kept to making the military intelligent. In an age where the military is a bunch of impotent cucks on screen, it is very refreshing to see them in action and get results. Especially against a literal giant monster.

Anno having the Americans use MOP's was absolutely inline with military doctrine and would have been what they used in this scenario. My only problem was how he got rid of the bombers, it was kind of an asspull. All the random beams just happen to hit the bombs? Really? Eh. Not to mention, the US only sends four B2's to take this thing on? And then once they're destroyed they don't send anymore?

Also, why did they send B2's? That didn't really didn't make much sense to me when B52's would have done just a good of a job and they could have used a shit load more. It isn't like Godzilla has radar guided missiles or anything.

Shin Godzilla is kino

Legendary is a flick

>>81150269
It's not even political dram. It's just an equivalent to a webcomic strawman. The in place government is only there to get shit on and make the younger politicians look better by comparison. But rather than show that once or twice before moving on, they just keep pulling that shit over and over.

You could cut out a huge chunk of that shit and have the same movie.

>>81150269
HEh, you're acting like the political shit was well done or something. All of the politicians were cardboard archetypes. You had the dead as a doornail emotionless MC, the guy that spazzed out over every discovery, the strong woman cunt who had a man voice directly under the prime minister, the prime minister who was nearly a useless bumbling idiot and only did what his advisors told him to do. All of the characters were just as awful as the western movies and you're too delusional to see it. The only good thing about this movie was the directing.

>>81150285
>It isn't like Godzilla has radar guided missiles
He has tho. They say he got a super sonar.

>>81150285
>Not to mention, the US only sends four B2's to take this thing on?

Could be explained as that's all they had on hand.

>And then once they're destroyed they don't send anymore?

They probably don't want to waste more once they set their minds on nuking it

All these complaints about the character drama. It's like people think there is only monster action in a Godzilla film. Just like any other film, it has to be judged overall. Not condemned for not flashing its titular character ever five minutes. Shin Godzilla is about Godzilla its entire duration. He kickstarts the plot and the film ends with him. Here he represents the earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear disaster that struck Japan several years ago. And the film is about Japan coming together and solving the crisis. The characters are fun and the actual film-making is inspired. Sure it loses momentum in the third act and the CGI can be hit & miss, though this isn't remotely a bad film and it's easily one the best Godzilla films.

>>81150395
>The characters are fun and the actual film-making is inspired
Nice buzzwords. The characters were shit and "le film-making(literally wat)" was shit. kys weeb faggot

>>81150395

Compare it to Legendary's Godzilla where the only compelling character dies 20 minutes into the movie. Not only was hiding Godzilla in smoke and shadows a fucking stupid move, but having Kick-Ass try and carry the movie when he has the acting range of a wet napkin.

>>81150449
>hiding Godzilla in smoke and shadows

fucking hated this in the movie. EVERYONE knows what he looks like. He's on the god damn poster. Why are we 60 minutes into the movie and the only thing you've shown is his tail? This isn't Cloverfield

>>81150329
>>81150333
It could've been done much, much worse with the politicians actively opposing the plan and doing something extra-ordinarily stupid and were it an American movie, they probably would. It shows the system and how it can't react to crisis and the characters are still pretty subtle and what's more, their decision making process makes sense given their beliefs and backgrounds.

>>81150336

That wasn't found out till later on. As far as the Americans were aware, it was just a giant monster.

>>81150345

I doubt it. The Marine Corp and the Airforce use C-130's and B52's for everything. I find it harder to believe that the US would be willing to send 4 B2's at a single target at once, especially since they absolutely would have had C-130's and B52's on hand due to transport needs and force projection.

The US not just dropping MOPs en mass at Godzilla seems doubtful, especially after he powered down immediately after. They were proven to be effective. So I am a bit torn. On one hand I am glad he kept some level of believable military effectiveness, but on the other hand because he did that it calls into question why they didn't just keep doing it afterwards. He probably should have just made the MOPs ineffective, which would make the UN press the Nuke option since it conventional weapons would've been completely exhausted.

If a bomb that can penetrate 200 meters of concrete can't hurt the fucker? Time to go to Nukes.

>>81150528
>with the politicians actively opposing the plan and doing something extra-ordinarily stupid

Fighting Kaiju is a state issue.

>>81150449

>godzilla is about to start fighting
>woman goes into shelter and looks up as it is about to kick off
>doors close on fight scene
>back to boring scenes with kick ass

walked out of the cinema right there

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>>81150426
> Being this butthurt
Are you going to be okay, anon?

> characters were shit
How? What constitutes good characters in your book? Knowing every last detail about them? It's an ensemble cast in a film tightly focused on one thing. Get over it.

And the cinematography was great. Different. But still great.

>>81149935
fuck off legendary shiteater.

>>81150554
>why they didn't just keep doing it afterwards

Because Godzilla would adapt, which is what he did throughout the movie. The whole point was to kill him faster than he could adapt to the weapons they used.

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I found a leak.

I really loved the idea of turning Godzilla into a volcano-like statue at the end was great. I hope 4.0 has a scene where you see highways and buildings surrounding a stone dinosaur

>>81150449
This. Every potentially interesting character becomes a non-factor by the second act and ATJ is left to carry the film by himself. And he is a frustratingly dull character who actively drains the remnants of life out of the movie. He has no personality, we don't hear his thoughts, and he no one of any significance to interact with. But the film takes itself so seriously. And the teasing only makes matters worse. Ultimately the audience isn't rewarded for its patience, as the cutaways continue in the climatic fight and, because it's so dark, it's almost impossible to even see what's there.

>>81149935
That scene is great. The eyes and the way it moves makes it really disturbing.

>>81150449
>The first time we see Godzilla in full is 45 minutes into the movie
This should be illegal.

>>81150700

I am confused by their long-term plan.

He won't stay frozen.

>>81150791

I saw the spoiler images months in advance like anyone else, but I assumed it was some secondary monster. The moment you realize he's evolving it makes it such a cool movie.

Loved all the blood coming out of his gills when he's flattening the city.

>>81150824

He's essentially Mt. Fuji now. You keep an eye on it all the time and hope it doesn't kill you if it wakes up

>>81150449
I liked the smoke and mirrors but the movie is plagued with misuse of good actors. Movie should have focused more on Cranston and Watanabe.

>>81150873

Smoke and mirrors works better when it's a new franchise. Cloverfield did this better because it did its entire movie on no budget and a completely unknown monster.

Godzilla has been a global icon for over 60 years. What the fuck are we hiding him for?

>>81150824
>he wakes up
>they drop a nuke like said in the movie
>he absorbs the radioactive energy
>he transforms into another form
There you have the sequel.

So....what the fuck was on his tail? Anyone have a high res screenshot?

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>>81150991
Even better, here's the model of the tail. Human/zilla hybrids methinks.

>>81150449
>>81150481
This

>>81151088

Damn, are they releasing this as something you can buy?

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>>81141500
fpbp
america very big strong mighty man

>>81150481
Because Godzilla and all of his surroundings were 100% CGI in that movie, and it's REALLY FUCKING HARD to keep the scale and believability of a monster that size consistant, so it was easier to fudge by implying scale and hiding the monster behind smoke and shadow, than to actually try to get the scale right and fail, like the 98 'Zilla movie.

It's a problem Shin doesn't really have, because when size matters, it's an actual dude in a suit on a real-life set, with stuff CGI'd in around him.

>>81151184

Shin is all CGI, there is no dude in a suit in any shot in the movie

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>>81151225
Did some research, turns out we're both right.

There WAS a dude in a suit (and a bunch of animatronic bits), but apparently the suit didn't look right, so they painted over it in post.

>>81151167
No idea, sorry mate.

>Hardcoded kanji on every scene
>Uninteresting take on japanese politics
>Kayoko is annoying as fuck

The action scenes are good, but you can see it all on the webms posted in this thread

>>81147082

this shot looks like garbage

>>81150449

I hated how fucking dark Legendary made theirs. When I saw Shin Godzilla I was amazed that just about all of the movie takes place in the daytime.

The only night scene was the atomic breath, which was 10000% pure fucking kino

>>81141470
Shin Godzilla starts off looking really boring and dumb, but the drama of bureaucracy wins you over and before you know it getting those goddamn papers ratified feels like a huge win.
Oh and it looks pretty real when Gojira is in the city, I'd love to see that in real life one day.

>>81151170
>me on the right

>>81151445
The only thing Legendary did better was the special effects. And, as a wise man once said and proved, "special effects without a story is a pretty boring thing."

>>81150991
Shin goji's 5th form.

>>81151532

Shin would be a perfect movie if the American representative was Bryan Cranston instead of the chick

>>81150991
It turns out the monster was man.
>>81151593
But then we wouldn't have cute Engrish.

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>>81151606
>But then we wouldn't have cute Engrish.
https://youtu.be/8PrUDtQVnpo

Not the greatest. But her body was worth every second of it.

>>81151593
it would be better for sure

dumb cunt thinks she can be the US president

>>81149362
Those wittle arms!

I wonder why Shin didn't feature more classic Toho actors. Were they not interested? Not invited?

>>81151759
Cute Japanese girls CAN become president!

>>81150991
Rei

>>81151759
i'd vote for her

>>81151813
Wow, rude!

>>81141470
Is it just me? The 2014 one looks really fat.

>>81151911
>american godzilla
>looks really fat

:^)

>>81147282

I don't remember the Red Breath at all.

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>>81151088

So, what were they getting at with the tail Godzilla/Human hybrid looking things? I could understand if it was somehow reproducing something that looked like . . . it, but, why a Humanoid hybrid? They didn't, in my mind, set up Godzilla having Human DNA or anything like that, so I'm rather confused where the Hybrid looking things are coming from.

>>81152072
He did have human DNA in him the guy that killed himself in the beginning

>>81152145

I never got that he was supposed to have included himself in Godzilla's DNA somehow.

>>81152072
>They didn't, in my mind, set up Godzilla having Human DNA or anything

Where do you think Goro Maki went? One idea is that being a giant lumbering beast was no longer advantageous, so evolving into smaller forms that could do shit sprout wings would work better for godzilla to propogate.

It's very good.

Do you like Japanese media? If you do you'll like it if not you won't. It's a JAPANESE film not western.

Barring that what plebs only go for the action of godzilla and disregard everything else. The main action scene is absolutely killer anyway and I would watch it solely for that.

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>>81152072
Because Giant God Warrior. Anno and Higuchi even made a short film about these motherfuckers invading Tokyo.

>>81141470
It's literally a meme

>>81141470
It's better than the american one.
Kaijukino.

>>81141470
> american one
> good
oh boy

>>81151692
>>81152072

She's cute, but tiredfu was infinitely better

>>81152425

Adored the science lady that decided Godzilla may be Nuclear. The movie didn't need a romance plot, but if it was going to have one, definitely her.

>>81152425
>tiredfu

You are anon of taste.

>>81152425
eww

>>81143435
this anon get it right.

>>81151170
dude on the right is intelligent as fuck.. look how big his helmet needs to be.

>>81151170
BIG

godzillas t6ail started forming into human godzillas because he recognized that humanity owned him.

the logical next step is for him to become the thing that defeated him. if tokyo ever gets nuked godzilla is going to produce millions of human godzillas that will replace humanity as the dominant species on earth.

Godzilla movies are about how humans react to a disaster. They are political satires.

If a Godzilla movie isn't a political satire, then it's shit.

Anybody who says otherwise is wrong.

>>81152659
nuclear powered, radiation immune humanoid godzillas eventually gaining full sentience and the ability to build societies and go to space?
thats entirely superior
might as well make way for the goziranid species

>>81153169
which is really why shin is probably the most dangerous godzilla. he actually realized the downsides of being a gigantic monster.

I really wanted to like Shin Godillabut ti's a bit of a turd

Things like the set up of the shots and the music occasionally were cool, I actully liked this and the way it was styled to look more like an old Godzilla movie than the slick action look they used for Godzilla 2014

but it was just a bit shit, nothing really happenned.

it came out the water, evolved, they shot it a bit.

america was like, shall we bomb it? then a scientist was like, maybe we can freeze it. So they freezed it.

That's literally the whole film. None of the character's stuck out or had any good moments

>japanese politician lets people die for "muh pride"
>he is supposed to be the good guy

Really?

>>81152325

Link to short?

>>81141470
never noticed how shit the 2014 one looks, like a guy in a suit, opposable thumbs and all.

>>81154323
>like a guy in a suit, opposable thumbs and all.
That's all of them, anon.

>>81154269
https://vimeo.com/64987176

>>81150285
Fuck you i liked Godzilla's Ideon beams

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>tfw this was just a live action Evangelion

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>>81154758
>tfw this was a live action Evangelion

>>81145773
>MY MONSTER MOVIE IS BETTER DEN UR MONSTER MOVIE, U SIMPLETON

Kill yourself.

>>81141470
It's good.
Could be one of the best, if not the best. There are some cheesy characters, one in particular but she doesn't get much screen time anyway. It's actually comic relief really

I think they put her in knowing nobody would take her seriously. She speaks english and it's laughably atrocious

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>>81143435
> Shin is very political

Yeah a good 85%-90% of the film is looking to show the plodding speed of Japan's gov and how everyone keeps passing the buck. Trying to show how any decision requires 10 different people being asked.

They also have a scene in the middle of the film that is just talking about the asian stock market. From the point of view of wanting to see a film that won awards in Asia it ok but there is not very much monster time in it.

if the viewer is the sort of person who watched and has no problem with sub titles it's fine, your average american looking for a blockbuster monster film will hate it. CGI wise I think it's fine being it's a Godzilla film, a little cheesy sort of look is expected.

>>81155926
Plus the main destruction scene was genuinely fantastically animated. They nailed the CG where it mattered.

>>81155958
>They nailed the CG where it mattere

Yeah all the monster part was great old school godzilla stuff. Way better then the BS legs in fog crap the USA Godzilla films try to do.

the problem is most will find having 20min talks about DNA and citizen relocation plans to be boring as hell.

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>>81141470

>>81141470
Ole' googly eyes?

>>81141529
underrated

>>81151958
He uses it in multiple movies IIRC.
https://youtu.be/H0qhL13rpIY

>>81141470
>tfw spent a few hours trying to download 2014 Godzilla movie
>accidentally downloaded shin Godzilla

>>81151363
There wasn't a suit, that's a puppet they ended up not using. Shin was 100% CGI

>>81158085
Your own ineptness did you a favor.

>>81141470
THICC

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>>81152325
>>81154758
>Shin Godzilla 2 starts with Big G unfrozing and the hybrids growing wings
>Tsubasa wo Kudasai starts playing

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>>81148611
The objective truth right here lads.

The american one only had Godzilla for about 15 minutes. That should tell you enough.

just started downloading. why is the movie in japanese. who the hell makes movies and not think about the american audience. no subtitles even wtf?

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>>81141500

>>81145085
yep

>>81143929
>>81150173
Yes, 100% Cranston should have been the lead. Soldier boy was almost certainly studio meddling.

>>81152072

Godzilla is pretty much a xenomorph here

>>81148128
I'm sure like the text itself states, can be applied to any Japanese live action.

>>81143682
impressive bait

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>>81141470
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!

IT'S GODZILLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!