It wasn't supposed to be a documentary

>>81113620
I use to love this movie, until I realized everyone will use as some political smear against the other side. We heard it with Obama, we'll hear it with Trump, and we'll hear it with whoever's after that. Bottom line, it's using pop culture references to make a political point, and using Idiocracy is no better than using Harry Potter or Star Wars.

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>>81113777

>>81113620
DUDE

IDIOCRACY, LIKE, BECAME REAL LIFE

WHOA

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>>81113777
>>81114066
>7s
>6s

COUNTING DOWN. ITS HAPPENING

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>>81114535
>he got a 5

>>81114085
>>81114535
2 5's in a row, isn't that some kind of dubs ?

>>81114552
>dumb frogposter ruined it

You have to go back, /pol/.

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>>81113777
>>81114066

>>81113777
this
there are real world issues with obama like his staff revering mao

medias anti white anti male propaganda is to blame for his victory if anything

you made your bed now sit in it

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Why are "progressives" such vicious authoritarian corporate whores all while pretending not to be?

>>81115643
Trump is a progressive?

>>81113620
>dude everything is going to be automated and we wont have to do anything or learn anything we can just play video games all day because the state will take care of us but dude Idiocracy is totally about republicans

>>81115643
>authoritarian corporate whores
>he says, licking the crust off the foot of an authoritarian robber-baron corporate shyster

The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

>>81115693
Did you even watch the movie? lol

>>81115734
lol look at this mincing faggot

>>81113620
Republicans are the morons that think climate change is a Chinese hoax.

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>>81115742
No I don't watch movies or television.
>>81115765
Good goy pay your carbon taxes.

>>81115734
>authoritarian
I'm not really a Trump supporter.
But he's DEFINITELY less authoritarian than Shillary or Bernie was.

>robber-baron
Why do you speak of myths from the 1800s?
There were no "robber-barons".

Face it, if you are a progressive, you're a massively authoritarian piece of shit.
Just accept it already.

Hell I'd respect you fascists if you actually manned up and admit you think human freedom is a bad thing already.

Also you deserve a bullet.

>>81115819
Everything I don't like is Jews. Grow up you faggot.

>>81115765
Climate change is real.
But the only way to solve it is by developing alternative energy technologies.
The only way to do that is to implement a free market so companies like tesla can compete and bring us into the future.

>>81115742
Not him, but yeah you're wrong.
Mike Judge isn't even a liberal.

>>81113620
Please fuck off, you're just baiting the crossposters now with this shit and this isn't even american hours.

>>81115821
>literally makes his living selling bullshit and settling litigation
>what is this """""robber baron""""" thing you speak of?

Stop being so stupid.

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>>81115838

>its a leftcucks project again episode

Wouldn't trump be the opposite of idiocracy since he doesn't want to import third world brown people (dummies)?

>>81115909
>be most successful businessman in literally all of the world.
>absolutely nothing any cuck can do to stop you

Yeah kid the left is as pure as the driven snow though. Just believe that she will win :)

>>81115955
>not sure if never seen the movie or literally too stupid to understand the premise

>>81115909
>>literally makes his living selling bullshit and settling litigation
I wasn't even talking about Trump.
Can you even read?

I don't even support Trump.

>>81115849
The only reason companies like Tesla can even compete is due to government grants manipulating the market to favor alternative energy.

>>81115955
Yes, we are pulling out of the Idiocracy movement the cia/left/msm had us in for so many years.

Dont fall for silly projecting leftists

>>81115849
>Climate change is real.

yes it changes every day

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>>81115892
This. Keep this shit off of /tv/ already or range bans are in order.

>>81115971
>The only reason companies like Tesla can even compete is due to government grants
lmao

if the federal reserve was abolished, government spending was cut drastically and taxes also cut, the price of capital goods would come down so companies like Tesla could not only survive but afford to create bigger and better things.
Also Tesla would have much much more money to play around with.

The government is like breaking someone's legs and then giving them crutches.

You're delusional.

>>81115996
fake poll's, just like the fake pools that saidhillary at a 98% to win

>>81116046
You're a fake poll.

>>81116064
For you.

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>>81116075
N-no! I'm in charge here!

>>81115969
Dumb people have more children seems to be the premise from what I remember.
Brown people are dumb and have a lot of children

>>81115996
>he believes political polls


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


I BET YOU BELIEVE SHE WOULD WIN TOO


HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

*INHALES*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAAHHAHA WHAT A LOSER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

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>>81113777
>>81114066
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

>>81113620
You think you're so deep? Check this out.

Does anyone else think Trump is like Voldemort and we're all Harry Potter?

>>81116191
DUMBOLDORES ARMY :D

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NOOOOOOOOOO, SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE. IT WAS HER TURN. HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO HER

>>81115643

Where are the progressives in that picture?

>>81116020
>if the federal reserve was abolished, government spending was cut drastically and taxes also cut
Yea because there were never high taxes before the federal reserve.

If there was no universal money like the reserve notes, Tesla would have to pay all sorts of bribes to each warlord and municipality and wouldn't be able to draw resources or compete on a global scale.

Idiocracy is only real in the US.

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Why come no Rudolph boobs?

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>>81116154
It's the birth of a new Pepe. Our savior.

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>>81116476
What's the story behind these? I think I have three now.

>>81116300
>Yea because there were never high taxes before the federal reserve.
Taxes were actually pretty low for the majority of the republic up until the creation of the fed.

>Tesla would have to pay all sorts of bribes to each warlord and municipality
LMAO
What the literal FUCK are you talking about?
America had a system of free banking based on GOLD.

The fucking industrial revolution happened under this system.

Are you batshit insane?
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Are you this ignorant of history?

>>81116295
Those comedians are not progressives?

>>81116584
A farmers revolt happened almost immediately after the union was formed due to over taxing.

>America had a system of free banking based on GOLD.
No, it had a clusterfuck of monetary policy where each state had its own capital and conversion costs were prohibitively expensive and a central banking system that was so untenable it had to be abolished.

The gold standard was used by the federal reserve until Nixon.

>>81116648
>A farmers revolt happened almost immediately after the union was formed due to over taxing.
Good.
Taxes were still relatively low compared to today. The problem was that everyone was so poor that even a minor tax increase was very destructive.
Anyway the period after the civil was a mostly free banking(except a few exceptions) gold standard system. This 30 year period was where the bulk of the american industrial revolution happened.
Prices fell year after year while wages rose. Working hours also decreased. America was the richest country on earth.

>No, it had a clusterfuck of monetary policy
lmao no it didn't. The gilded age had free banking

>where each state had its own capital and conversion costs were prohibitively expensive
I don't know which period in american history you are referring to but what you are talking about didn't happen in the gilded age.

>The gold standard was used by the federal reserve until Nixon.
we were only on a semi-gold standard where the fed could print money but had to pay it back

Want to know why everything has gone to shit economically for the middle class since the 1970s?
Because we got off the gold standard, why did we do this? because we spent too much money and couldn't pay it back.

>>81116744
>Want to know why everything has gone to shit economically for the middle class since the 1970s?
It hasn't, the middle class and lower class has a higher standard of living than any time in American history.

> couldn't pay it back
the Federal Reserve has never defaulted, its why it is the reserve currency of the world.

>>81115849
>the only way to do that is to implement a free market

The free market has been shown pretty comprehensively to fuck the environment without a condom

>>81116825
>the middle class and lower class has a higher standard of living than any time in American history.
Bullshit.
The average man in 1950s/1960s could afford to support himself, his wife, and like 4 children on a modest salary.

>hurr we gotz dem iphones and flatscreens now so we're better off
Nobody has savings anymore. Nobody is going to be able to retire.

>the Federal Reserve has never defaulted,
It defaulted in 1970 when it decided to print money to pay off it's debt

>its why it is the reserve currency of the world.
Not for long, you brainwashed cuck.
The rest of the world is going to get sick of supporting fat americans while american provide almost nothing, sometime in the near future.

>>81116911
>The free market has been shown pretty comprehensively to fuck the environment without a condom
Actually the free market has been shown to PROTECT the environment.
Look at China right now. Look at USSR.
Hell look at america.

America and countries around the world actually abolished free market environmental policies and instead replaced them with statist ones.

If you polluted a river or caused even the slightest amount of pollution on another person you would be sued and your company would possibly go bankrupt.
There were many examples of this happening in the 1800s in america in places that actually enforced this free market law.

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>>81116986
>Look at China right now.
I'm trying.

>>81117013
That's my point.
Look how shitty government is at preventing pollution.

>>81117027
>DUDE JUST DEREGULATE EVERYTHING

"No."

>>81117045
>dude I legitimately have zero argument to your points so I'll use memes, talking points and strawman arguments
Sad.

Face it. The free market is better at stopping pollution.
If a company tried to pollute anything I use or own they would get sued.
This happened countless times throughout history when there were periods of free market environmentalism.

Stop being a brainwashed leftcuck.

>>81117027
China is doing great actually.
Look at how much green and nuclear power it has added in the last 10 years. Mind-boggling numbers.

>>81117027
Is the government doing anything to prevent pollution? My understanding has always been China doesn't give two fucks about the environment. And America is exporting a shit ton of carbon dioxide next to the cleaner, more heavily regulated EU.

I mean, here in the UK we're descaling our fossil fuel and starting to invest in nuclear in a way that would never have happened if not for regulation enforcing it.

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>>81117119
>China is doing great actually.
This fucking guy.

>>81117086
>Sad.

Oh, Trumplodyte. Forget it, I'm not even gonna bother.

>>81117129
>My understanding has always been China doesn't give two fucks about the environment.
They don't.
If they had PROPERTY RIGHTS, and the RULE OF LAW it would get rid of this pollution rather quickly.

>I mean, here in the UK we're descaling our fossil fuel and starting to invest in nuclear in a way that would never have happened if not for regulation enforcing it.
lmao if there weren't so many regulations on nuclear in the first place it would have dominated the market.
Also if you didn't have your central bank, the cost of capital would be so inexpensive that building nuclear plants like this would be cheap.

Also why aren't people using thorium?

>>81117013
Depends where it is, but a lot of the 'smog' pictures you get of China are actually dust storms from the Gobi desert. Still not healthy, but a natural phenomenon.

>>81117159
HAH

This is the second post in a row you completely ignored my argument and instead made a shitty comment.

I had to explain my argument twice and you couldn't even respond lmao

I don't even support trump either, sorry.

>>81117188
>Gobi desert
holy shit I just realized that shit is literally in china

>>81117175
>lmao if there weren't so many regulations on nuclear in the first place it would have dominated the market

hmm dubious claim. I think that's more to do with public perception of nuclear in the UK. France gets 70-80% of its electricity from nuclear and is still part of the EU. The ONR is an absolute bitch but it's not the reason we're so slow on nuclear power.

>>81113620
People keep mistaking political incorrectness for immaturity, so bragging about your dick now gets people to vote for you.

>built up an international corporation
>net worth in the billions
>had one of the most successful reality tv shows of all time
>with less than two years experience as a politician, BTFO'd Jeb for the Republican primary and Clinton for the presidentail
>both opponents were 30+ year veterans and had the elite class backing them
>frequently manipulates the media into doing his bidding despite the fact that they hate him
>hot piece of ass for a wife
>!!!!lol Trump is such an idiot Lol!!! We should keep underestimating him!!!!!!
>I'm the genius!!!!! Me, with my one bedroom apartment, disgusting pink hair, and two dozen cats!!!

>>81117210
>I don't even support trump either, sorry.
>le sad meme! xD

I love shills. They're so transparently moronic.

>>81116501
Some Argentinian /pol/fag made them.

Have the whole set: https://imgur.com/a/tIUH9

How to tell someones opinion is shit.

Step 1: The identify with the movie idiocracy.

>>81117235
>hmm dubious claim.
wrong
you brits are so cucked you don't even know it

>The ONR is an absolute bitch
Then abolish it completely.

It's a yourmumutary, you piece of shit. Now go back to wherever the fuck you came from.

>>81117268
>getting upset over a meme

Even leftists have used the le sad meme ironically. Trump is maybe slightly better than hillary on some things but he's still a pile of shit.
I'm a libertarian. Why would I support Trump?

Are you honestly this upset over losing the debate we're having here? It's like you didn't even try.

Why don't you at least listen to the points I'm making?
Grow up kid.

>>81117256
>idiot savant who solves all his problems by throwing daddy's money at them
>wins public office on the back of populist rabble-rousing and a coordinated smear campaign against his opponent from his butt-buddy the eternal president of russia
>SUCH GENIUS, MUCH WIN, MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN XD

>1984 wasn't supposed to be a guide!

>>81117349
>>getting upset over a meme

Wouldn't that be something?

No, I'm simply calling you a moron for being so transparent and predictable. Trust me, it's impressive to be so fucking recognizable on an anonymous board.

Now call me a cuck and pretend you've achieved something here.

>>81117349
>I'm a libertarian. Why would I support Trump?

Well for one, he has been gutting Obama's business killing regulations like a fish...

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>>81117368
hello, redditfriend

>>81117377
lmao I love how you're completely changing the subject after getting absolutely rekt

>Now call me a cuck and pretend you've achieved something here.
holy fuck the projection lmao
we were debating a serious topic and you couldn't respond to my point TWICE so you gave up and started angrily shitposting

Even if I did support Trump, what reason would I have to lie to a person on anonymous imageboard about this? Also how would be being a trump supporter(I'm literally not and I'm actually a Canadian) refute my argument about environmentalism?

You're just shitposting at this point to try to save face.
SAD!!!

>>81117427
Honestly if coming to a place where everyone hates you, is life threatening to get to, you get the absolute worst jobs, little money, cramped living spaces, and people are constantly trying to kick you out is still considered a better option than staying in Mexico or waiting the years to legally immigrate I don't know if I can blame them because I would probably do the same for my family in that situation. Really anyone with a family to support would at least strongly consider it.

>>81117421
Small fries.
Wow, so we now have bush and all the other presidents horrible regulations.
Why would we be happy about this?

Regulations and government is general is going to massively increase under Trump, just like it did under reagan.

>>>/pol/ come on

>>81117503
Why the FUCK doesn't mexico fix their own god damn problems?

The idea that the entire world can come to america for a better life is insane.

>>81117523
>>>/reddit/

begone faggot shill

>>81117496
>after getting absolutely rekt
>chose to disengage from a fucking Trumpette spewing memes
>he genuinely considers this "losing"
>he's already celebrating a non-existent confrontation

This isn't embarrassing at all, anon. Please, keep going.

>>81117537
What? This is /tv/ not /pol/

>>81117515
He's gutting all regulations, including Bush's and Clinton's. Moron.

>>81117515
>Regulations and government is general is going to massively increase under Trump

Source? I'm pretty sure you not a libertarian at this point but a disgusting liberal faggot that cannot handle the fact he is being called out for being a huge faggot? Where is the source that Trump is going to increase regulations CTR shill?

>>81117532
Because it's not about fixing Mexico, it's about ruining America. Idk how much the left has to scream "fuck America, fuck white people" before you finally understand what thier goals are.

>>81117584
no he's not lmao

He's just gutting a few select ones. The vast majority of them will stay on the books.

>>81117592
>Source?
Virtually every other president in history?
The only president that decreased regulations and government in general is Grover Cleveland.
Why the fuck would you think Trump would be any different than all the rest?
He ALREADY promised to spend trillions of fucking dollars.
I'd be surprised if america doesn't have a debt crises within 2 years.
If reagan increased regulations then Trump will too.

>>81117562
>he's still posting
I can almost taste the delicious tears emanating from this post.

I literally only wanted to discuss environmental policy. You were doing pretty good until you realized you had no argument and were WRONG. It's not my fault you couldn't respond to my points TWO FUCKING TIMES and have resorted to shitposting.

Why are you whining so hard?

>>81117532
Because jose his wife and 3 year old daughter can't fix Mexico, they just don't want to get raped to death by cartels.

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>>81117562
>non-existent confrontation

You mean this one?
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>>81116911
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>>81117013
>>81117027
>>81117045
>>81117086

Notice, here is where you fucked up and started getting angry about having no argument:
>>81117159

>>81117720
The government supports the cartels.

>>81117724
>animeposter

FUCKING RACIST FASCIST LIBERTARIAN NEOLIBERALISM DRUMPPHHFFFH BAAAWWWWWWWWWW RACISSSS

>>81117652
>He ALREADY promised to spend trillions of fucking dollars.

Yes in rebuilding the crumpling roads, bridges and etc. It's an investment in the country that will pay huge dividends just like Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System.

>If reagan increased regulations then Trump will too.

Trump isn't Reagan. Nor is he Clinton or Bush or Obama. He is an unusual president. That is literally what he is known for.

You STILL have provided sources that Trump will increase regulation. Probably CTR shill that cannot back his shitty propaganda garbage when called out. Provide a source idiot, or shut the fuck up.

>>81117780
>It's an investment in the country
No, it's a COST.
It doesn't produce anything.

Increasing infrastructure spending doesn't magically create economic growth.
Why do you think the same way china and north korea do?
Do you want to build ghost cities next?

>He is an unusual president.
He's known for contradicting himself on countless things.
He's also a cuck for supporting Ryancare when Rand Paul's plan was a trillion times better and actually MARKET based.

https://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ObamacareReplacementActSections.pdf

>You STILL have provided sources that Trump will increase regulation.
I have no sources. You never know with someone like Trump.
The only thing we have is history and if history is any indicator. Yes, yes he will increase regulations.
He already put in establishment republicans and corporate stooges in his administration. He supported fucking RYANCARE.
He's a fake fuck, face the facts, faggot.

I'm actually a fucking leaf but if I was american I would have voted for him because he was better than hillary, but he's still shit.

>>81117780
>>81117883
also, if infrastructure is needed, if it's SUCH a bottleneck for economic growth, then let the private sector do it

>>81117741
Neat, what does this have to do with the innocent people in the crossover who have no choice?

>>81117883
>I have no sources

End of Debate. Just garbage conjecture. No wonder libertarians are a fucking laughing stock.

>I'm actually a fucking leaf

hahahahahaaahahahahahaha probably a pimpled face teen to boot.

>Increasing infrastructure spending doesn't magically create economic growth.

It's an investment in the country. Roads need to be repaired, bridges fixed, electrical systems need updating. This is literally the responsibility of federal government.

Why is this thread still up?

>>81117996
>Neat, what does this have to do with the innocent people in the crossover who have no choice?
Why don't they protest their shitty government?
Or, why don't they move somewhere south in Mexico where there are less cartels.

>>81117945
>then let the private sector do it

It's not the private sector to fix roads you idiot leaf retard. It's job of the government. You are literally one of the stupidest people I've ever come across on 4chan. Holy shit

>>81118002
>End of Debate.
No it's not.
You have no sources either faggot.
It's just a guess with Trump.
Nobody actually knows.

>No wonder libertarians are a fucking laughing stock.
LMAO
We're the third largest political party.
It's hilarious when you leftcucks are unable to debate with us and get BTFO time after time.

>hahahahahaaahahahahahaha probably a pimpled face teen to boot.
AHAYHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
I'm 6'3 and sexy as fuck but believe what you want senpai. :3

>It's an investment in the country.
No, again. It's a COST you dumb fuck.
Repairing something it hardly an investment.
A real investment would be factories that actually produce things.
Tell me why China and North Korea wasting their money on ghost cities is NOT helping their economy. Our roads are NOT the bottleneck that is preventing the US economy from functioning properly, the fucking government is.
How the FUCK do you think taking resources from the private sector, increasing the cost of these resources(so private companies have a harder and harder time producing things) and wasting it on "nice" roads that are only a slight improvement from the roads the USA already has will improve the economy?
How the fuck will increasing inflation(which is what you delusional fed reservecucks want) will help the economy?

I've driven all over the USA on many road trips, the roads and bridges are fucking fine. They're not the greatest, but they're still usable.

You delusional keynesian cuck, kill yourself.

>This is literally the responsibility of federal government.
It should absolutely be privatized.

You're so brainwashed it's unreal.

also lmao you couldn't even respond to ANY of my other points
AHAHAHAHAHA
WHAT A FAGGOT

>>81118067
>It's not the private sector to fix roads you idiot leaf retard.
It SHOULD be. You delusional idiot.

>It's job of the government.
It doesn't have to be.

>You are literally one of the stupidest people I've ever come across on 4chan.
>HAY GUISE THIS GUY IS CHALLENGING THE WAY THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MY ENTIRE LIFE AND IT'S MAKING MY BRAIN HURT, WHAT A DUMMY THIS GUY IS

>>81118038
>>81118038
People with jobs don't have time to protest, especially hard labor ones in countries without labor laws
North America is significantly closer for most and as opportunity for education and societal advancement. If you have a child it would be irresponsible parenting to do anything but move to the US.

>>81118004
Because leftards literally cannot stop swallowing bait. Or, everyone is responding to bait with more bait, creating an Ouroboros of autism

>>81118374
>without labor laws
Most labour laws should be abolished desu

they do nothing to protect workers

>If you have a child it would be irresponsible parenting to do anything but move to the US.
I agree.
That's why we need to ban them from coming here.

>>81118231
>It SHOULD be. You delusional idiot.

It isn't. Whatever should or shouldn't be is irrelevant you stupid stupid teenager.

> CHALLENGING THE WAY THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MY ENTIRE LIFE

Nope. Have a masters degree in economics. Was a libertarian in college. Read freedmen, hayek, von mises religiously. Than I graduated, got a real job. This is how I know you are stupid pimpled faced teen.

>It should absolutely be privatized.

Lmao stupid low IQ teen. You stupid lofty ideals of what should or shouldn't be is fucking irrelevant you fucking kid. Grow the fuck up.

>A real investment would be factories that actually produce things.

What the fuck do you think Trump has been harking on the last 2 years? Holy shit you are literally a brain damage libertarian hippie that cannot remember what happened 2 weeks from now.

>Tell me why China and North Korea wasting their money on ghost cities is NOT helping their economy.

China has had one of highest GDP growth of any country in last 30 years. You are self defeating you own argument. China is literally the worst country to use an example for stupid impractical high school libertarian.

>How the FUCK do you think taking resources from the private sector, increasing the cost of these resources(so private companies have a harder and harder time producing things) and wasting it on "nice" roads that are only a slight improvement from the roads the USA already has will improve the economy?

Because it's an investment. Learn what an investment is. Learn what ROE is. Learn what inter-temporal choice is. Stop spewing retarded garbage and actually go read economic books you fucking pimpled faced tard.

>How the fuck will increasing inflation

We had QE1, 2 and 3 injucted to the economy. Meanwhile inflation has been holding steady. You have no idea what the fuck you are taking about.

>Repairing something it hardly an investment.

Holy shit you are literally retarded.

>>81118449
>I know they need help
>I know they have no other option
>but fuck em' they shouldn't have been dumb enough to be born to parents who happened to live somewhere other then where I do.

>>81118206
>You have no sources either faggot.

>You have no sources either faggot.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-executive-order-regulations-1.3958103

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/29/trumps-rollback-of-obamas-environmental-legacy-is-all-kinds-of-unpopular/

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/16/white-house-seeks-to-cut-epa-budget-31-as-trump-targets-regulation.html

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/16/white-house-seeks-to-cut-epa-budget-31-as-trump-targets-regulation.html

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>>81118482
>Whatever should or shouldn't be is irrelevant
It's very relevant.
We're debating policy issues. This a is a policy issue.

>stupid teenager.
Oh the ironing.

>Have a masters degree in economics. Was a libertarian in college. Read freedmen, hayek, von mises religiously.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
OH YEEAAAAAH I TOTALLY BELIEVE YOU

AHAHAHAHAHA

JESUS CHRIST

>Lmao stupid low IQ teen.
You are projecting so fucking hard right now.

>You stupid lofty ideals of what should or shouldn't be is fucking irrelevant you fucking kid. Grow the fuck up.
>BAWWWWWW I DON'T EVEN NEED AN ARGUMENT
>IT'S YOU THAT SHOULD GROW UP

My sides

>>81118527
>get BTFO
>hahaha i-i don't believe you.

I noticed when I got a little bit technical and mentioned basic economic terms like inter temporal choice your retarded teen ass couldn't respond because you are obviously stupid teen with high school level understanding of economics lmao

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>>81118482
>What the fuck do you think Trump has been harking on the last 2 years?
Wow, his talking is really going to bring factories back. lmao

I can't wait until he puts his tariffs in and fucks the rest of this shitty bubble economy, you delusional petulant child.

>Holy shit you are literally a brain damage libertarian hippie that cannot remember what happened 2 weeks from now.
Notice how you're not even responding to my point at all and just shit talking. You sure seem mad right now.
Triggered much?

>China has had one of highest GDP growth
OH WAIT LOL
YOU ACTUALLY THINK GDP IS A MEASURE OF ECONOMIC SUCCESS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy fuck you're actually this dumb.
Whenever the government prints money and spends it, it counts as GDP growth. That's LITERALLY what china has been doing.

You're a fucking leftist keynesian. Why not just admit it?

>China is literally the worst country to use an example
It's actually perfect. China spends trillions on infrastructure and it hasn't helped their economy at all. Nobody lives in these GDP inflated ghost cities. There's no real economic growth. Just government bullshit.

>stupid impractical high school libertarian.
You can tell you're seething with anger right now lmao

>>81115693
>everything is going to be automated and we wont have to do anything or learn anything we can just play video games all day because the state will take care of us

>Dumb goys think they won't be culled when automation renders them useless.

lol

>>81118482
>Because it's an investment. Learn what an investment is.
It's a BAD investment.
If someone in the private sector tried to make this investment he would fail. This is why it's a bad investment, it requires the government to survive.

You couldn't even respond to my points whatsoever. You're just going "hurr go learn this, go learn that"

Care to respond to my point about government spending increasing the cost of capital goods?
Oh wait, you can't.

My best guess is that you're 13 years of age.

>Meanwhile inflation has been holding steady.
There's actually been tons of inflation, it's not showing up just in consumer prices, but in the stock market, in the housing sector etc. Also the banks are holding a large portion of this money. Also america is exporting a large amount of this inflation so americans don't actually see the rising consumer goods prices.

Watch as you don't respond to this and just angrily shitpost like most leftists do.

>>81118587
>Wow, his talking is really going to bring factories back. lmao

He talked about the shitty trade polices that gutted manufacturing. You stated that the key to economic growth is factory jobs. Now you openly mock Trump for agreeing with you? Holy shit put the bong down idiot.

>YOU ACTUALLY THINK GDP IS A MEASURE OF ECONOMIC SUCCESS

One of the major ones. It's literally what every economist uses to measure. Just because a stupid 9th grade idiot teen like you disagrees doesn't make it wrong. Another is GDP per captia. Which China saw a huge growth in.

>China spends trillions on infrastructure and it hasn't helped their economy at all.

China literally saw millions get lifted out of poverty the last 30 years. It has a huge middle class. You literally have no idea what you are talking.

>You can tell you're seething with anger right now lmao

>Whenever the government prints money and spends it, it counts as GDP growth

Nope stupid teen faggot. If that were true Zimbabwe and Venezuela would be seeing huge GDP growth.

>>81118510
They're not part of my country. I care about my own people first. The same way I care about my own family first.

>>81118512
>he cut some regulation
lmao so did Reagan at the start, then he massively increased them

Also what the fuck do you think Ryancare is?
MORE REGULATION

Does the fact you're wrong upset you?

>>81118581
>get BTFO
>claim the other guy got BTFO
lmao

>I noticed when I got a little bit technical and mentioned basic economic terms
The projecting is abosultely outstanding.
You couldn't even respond to my economic posts and you just threw around irrelevant concepts that we weren't even talking about.

kek

>inter temporal choice
completely irrelevant to our discussion

>hurr I spewed an economic term I just googled, look how smart I am
If you were smart you would debate the topic at hand lmao

>>81118749
>He talked about the shitty trade polices that gutted manufacturing.
The trade policies didn't do this.
Government overregulation, central banking, taxes and government spending did.
Also manufacturing isn't as important as you think. If USA had the strongest dollar in the world. Americans would be able to simply import the products from the rest of the world. There would be a massive service sector with high paying service sector jobs everywhere.
lmao

>You stated that the key to economic growth is factory jobs.
I never said it was the key, it's just one aspect that is required. In order to get to a service sector economy, you need to go to the manufacturing stage first.

>Now you openly mock Trump for agreeing with you?
lmao implementing tariffs is going to do nothing to bring back manufacturing you dumb cuck

>One of the major ones.
holy fuck are you one brainwashed fuck lmao

>It's literally what every economist
lmao the reason the world is in such economic shambles is because these same delusional keynesian """""""""economists"""""""" you worship so much RUN it
AHAHAHAHA
So much for success.

I guess the average chinese person must be doing GREAT since China's GDP is so high.

>Just because a stupid 9th grade idiot teen like you disagrees doesn't make it wrong. Another is GDP per captia. Which China saw a huge growth in.
Ahhh yes, more projection and ad hominems when you can't defend your childish positions.

Don't you have school tomorrow?

>>81118749
>China literally saw millions get lifted out of poverty the last 30 years
Yes, thanks to opening up their markets to manufacturing. They would be even better off if they didn't spend their money on worthless bullshit like ghost cities.

If China stopped massively undervaluing their currency and let it rise, the average chinese person would be much much better off and it would be AMERICANS who would be fucked.

>It has a huge middle class.
AHAHAHAHAHA
Yeah, I'm sure Foxxcon employees love their jobs and all have nice houses in the suburbs
HOLY FUCK YOU'RE DUMB

>Nope
It's literally true.
Are you this ignorant of economics.
China literally builds these ghost cities to boost their GDP
How the fuck do you not know this?

>If that were true Zimbabwe and Venezuela would be seeing huge GDP growth.
Their economies were SMALL to begin with.

>>81118656
>If someone in the private sector tried to make this investment he would fail. This is why it's a bad investment, it requires the government to survive.

Again. If a pimpled faced high school teen like you thinks it's a bad investment doesn't make it true. The private sector has no incentive to build roads. Government does because its beholden to the people. Again, your stupid lofty high school libertarianism means shit in the real world.

>Care to respond to my point about government spending increasing the cost of capital goods?

It hasn't. The cost of capital goods are actually down. Do you even know what capital goods are? Easy credit and automation/technology have significantly reduced their cost.

>There's actually been tons of inflation,

Show me the graphs show "tons of inflation"

> it's not showing up just in consumer prices, but in the stock market, in the housing sector etc.

US housing sector isn't inflated at all. And stock market is up because QE injections that were badly needed to curtail systemic risk. Also core inflation, THE REAL MEASURE of inflation is steady but I doubt a pimpled faced teen actually knows this term.

>Also america is exporting a large amount of this inflation

PROVE this. Post sources or again shut the fuck up.

>>81118975
>If a pimpled faced high school teen
Ahhh you can taste the projection. It's literally all you have at this point.

>thinks it's a bad investment doesn't make it true.
It's a bad investment because it literally isn't profitable.
It's a bad investment because it's WASTING MONEY. It's a bad investment because it isn't decreasing the cost of consumer goods. It isn't adding to the supply of goods and services. It's (mostly) fucking useless.

>The private sector has no incentive to build roads.
yes they do lmao

>>81118940
>They would be even better off if they didn't spend their money on worthless bullshit like ghost cities.

You don't even know what the ghost cities are idiot. It was actually a major project to get the Chinese citizens to have homes/housing. It was literally built in anticipation for a major housing demand that never happened thanks USA 2008 housing crash that hurt everyone on earth. They weren't just randomly built.

>Yeah, I'm sure Foxxcon employees love their jobs and all have nice houses in the suburbs

Job is better than no job. Most of these people working at foxxcon use to be ultra poor rice farmer peasants. What your beef with foxxcon idiot? I thought you were a libertarian and totally with the free market? Again I am debating a stupid 9th grade teen that cannot be consistent in his arguments.

>
If China stopped massively undervaluing their currency

Again, as a self confessed libertarian you shouldn't have a problem with a sovereign nations doing whatever the fuck they want idiot.

>Their economies were SMALL to begin with.

Smaller nations usually see the biggest GDP growth. It;s literally what you learn in econ 101 during your first year. Again I'm debating a stupid high schooler whose entire economic understanding is from retarded ancap image boards.

>>81119109
>It's a bad investment because it literally isn't profitable.

Is it profitable. Well built roads, bridges and electrical system are used by the people.

Agian. Because a stupid pimpled face teen thinks infrastructure spending is bad investment doesn't mean it's true. Infrastructure spending is literally what every 1st government does. Japan does it, South Korea does it, Germany, France, UK, Canada and etc.

LMAO if you are such a genius maybe you can write a paper on why it's bad. Show them the numbers, the charts, the math equations. Maybe you will get a nobel prize and literally turn modern economic thinking on its head. Idiot.

>It's a bad investment because it's WASTING MONEY.

PROVE it. Show me the charts and graphs dipshit.

> It's a bad investment because it isn't decreasing the cost of consumer goods.

We've been over this. You agreed that inflation and cost of consumer goods are holding steady. Again you cannot remain consistent in your arguments.

>>81118848
>The trade policies didn't do this.

Yes it did. LEARN what competitive advantage is. China saw a huge growth in their factory production because it had massive COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE of the USA in labor costs.

> If USA had the strongest dollar in the world

USA does have one of the strongest dollars in the world. It's literally what every almost government choices to hold in their central banking reserves. Shut the fuck up you don't know what you are talking about.

>I never said it was the key, it's just one aspect that is required.

>lmao implementing tariffs is going to do nothing to bring back manufacturing you dumb cuck

Than why does Japan and China and south koreaa have strong nationalist tariff system? DO you actually even know this idiot?

>holy fuck are you one brainwashed fuck lmao

Says the 9th grade teen retard that follows one of the most retarded economic ideologies on earth.

>lmao the reason the world is in such economic shambles

We are living in the most prosperous most technologically advance era in human history. We have cured polio, smallpox, lifted billions out of abject poverty, landed on the moon and etc. Just because mommy wouldn't buy you that new xbox game doesn't mean the world is shit you stupid kid.

>>81119266
>Infrastructure spending is literally what every 1st government does.
There's nothing wrong with infrastructure spending if it's to support an economy. But infrastructure spending just for the sake of infrastructure spending is fucking stupid and that's how you get these ghost cities in china where there's no economy around them and nobody lives there.

Pretty sure that's all that anon was getting at before you sperged out.

>>81119119
>>81119266
>>81119530

AAAAND just like that the retarded high schooler runs away after getting BTFO

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>>81119530
>USA does have one of the strongest dollars in the world.
Do people actually believe this?
Look at Switzerland you dumb faggot.
They have massive free trade and a strong dollar.
Their people have the highest local purchasing power in the world.

>>81119565

Ghost cities happened because the Chinese government built them in anticipation of a major housing demand by its citizens. It wasn't "infrastructure spending just for the sake of infrastructure spending" you idiot. It was a rational decision at the time before the US housing crash hurt the Chinese economy badly

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>>81119568
>AAAAND just like that the retarded high schooler runs away after getting BTFO
Congratulations.

>>81119588

USA does have one of the strongest dollars. And the Swiss hold their central bank currencies in US dollars idiot. There is a reason why the US dollar is known as a "Reserve currency".

>Their people have the highest local purchasing power in the world.

And literally 1/10th the population.

>>81119625
>Ghost cities happened because the Chinese government built them in anticipation of a major housing demand by its citizens.
So it was a keynesian government failure? Thought so.

>It was a rational decision at the time
It was never a rational decision. Are you actually trying to justify the government enslaving it's citizens and building massive useless buildings and shit that nobody is going to use?

>before the US housing crash hurt the Chinese economy badly
They're still building these things you know.

>>81119673

Thanks. I haven't had a vigorous economic debate since BTFO that Obama leaf on /pol/ last year.

>>81119710
On Switzerland, my point is that they have an extremely high valued dollar(the highest) and yet they have a strong economy and their people are VERY well off.
Meanwhile USA(which also has a strong dollar) is a shithole and there's no decent jobs anywhere.

A strong dollar isn't bad. Manufacturing isn't the lifeblood of the economy in the way you trumpists think.

>And literally 1/10th the population.
irrelevant

>>81119714
>So it was a keynesian government failure? Thought so.

Nope. It was because of heavily integrated global markets.

> Are you actually trying to justify the government enslaving it's citizens

How is China enslaving it citizens. Prove this.

>building massive useless buildings and shit that nobody is going to use?

You don't know what you are talking about. The Chinese government didn't build it. They outsourced to for profit contractors that cut corners and did a shitty job. The Chinese citizens refused to pay the outlandish price for such shitty work. Hence why they become ghost cities you moron.

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>>81119889
>How is China enslaving it citizens.
Get a load of this guy.

Go move there then faggot.