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Do Marvel even try to compete at this point?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyVPh3Usrho
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That makes up for the other 2 hours and 55 minutes being an absolute shitshow.
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Yes
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>>81047941

Why didn't the Russian guy burn Martha alive when it's obvious a superhero is fucking up all of his men? Lex is going to kill you anyway if Martha doesn't die.
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>Do marvel even try
no. If it prints money, just repaint and repeat
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>>81047941
>that music
Honestly, with Hans Zimmer gone I fear that DCEU won't be the same.
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I still don't understand the wankery over this scene other than "DUDE BATMAN IS BRUTAL LMAO"
Its shot like ass, spatial editing is all over the place, you can barely tell what the fuck is going on
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>armour can withstand point blank pistol shots
>gets pierced by a knife
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This was easily my favorite scene of BVS and makes me want a solo Batman movie so bad. Batman Batmand so good.
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>>81048736
It really feels like this was the Batman theme he wanted all along, instead of the one he made for Nolan.

>>81048812
t. blind person
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>>81048812
it really doesn't cut excessively. It's not as good as some action movies, but it's better than a lot too.
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Nah fuck art, manlets, cuts and quips all day long bby
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Who the fuck refers to their mom using her first name?

This fucking shitty writing, I swear.
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>>81048312
so he has a money change if batman comes to kill him
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>>81048812
Listen I fucking hate BvS, but its one of the most competently shot scenes in that movie.
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>>81048736
Hans Zimmer didn't do the batman themes in BvS, that was Junkie XL
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>>81049029
same guy here and i rewatched it. He actually only does about one move per cut, which is pretty lazy. Sometimes there are even multiple cuts for one move.
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The dawn of kino
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>>81048812
>this is what marvelets actually believe
no wonder why they like the MCU
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This scene would have 90% more cuts if it was in a Marlel movie

Snyderhaters roasted
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>>81049138
damn when i saw this in theater, the exact moment i saw this image i knew this movie was different
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BvS - The fall and rise of the American spirit.
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[nightmare intensifies]
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>>81048736

Junkie XL is a beast, his Fury Road score was pure audiokino.
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>>81049375
Well he's definitely on board for JL. He did the cover for Come Together for JL trailer.
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>>81048937
only the head you moron.
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>>81049138
I love that he's called "the" Superman throughout the movie. It speaks volumes about the world they're in.
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>>81048205
Is this a shop? No way something that lazy passed QA.

Does the real version look this bad?
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>>81050094
It's from the trailer, the entire thing looks like shit
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>>81050094
oh it's real. and most of the movie including spiderman is entirely cgi.

it's safe to say marvel make so much money now, they don't even try anymore.
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>>81050328
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Ben Affleck nails Bruce Wayne and Batman.
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>>81049304
am I right thinking those beings are the same from the Justice League trailer?
Was Batman clairvoyant in BvS?
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>>81050453
It's actually a vision from the future
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>>81049474
That's a DAMN good cover. too.

He was the guitar freak in Fury Road, wasn't he?
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>>81047941
WAIT!!!1 Is that Bam Margera at 1:43? Haven't spotted him in cinema.
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>>81048071
Yes it does
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>>81049051
What if that's not what he said?

>>81049549
Gauntlets too, at the very least. Also, he got stabbed right there at an articulation point, where whatever other body armor he does have would be weaker.
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>>81050494
It's one of the most comic book type things that Zack did.
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>>81047941
Jesus Christ.
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>>81047941
They don't really have to try considering how shit their competition is.
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>>81050433
He really does. I am extremely happy with him as Bruce.
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>>81049138
What font is that?
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>>81049051
if Superman had to save his boss, he would say Perry White. Saying "my boss" either tells you nothing or would give away your secret identity. Superman gave her name because he expected Batman to be able to look her up and find her someway.

Also he says Kent but Batman's foot tightens on his throats when he gets triggered.
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friendly reminder that Zack Snyder did the impossible. Not only did he dislodge Christopher Reeve from his perch but he actually made Superman a genuinely good character
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Get in bro, we're making kino.
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>>81050844
I think we've got a punchline coming.

Go watch the scene again and watch Clark's face every time Bruce says Martha.

I don't Clark said Martha at all. Bats just heard what his fucked up noggin wanted to hear.
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>>81050876

There is only one Superman, as pictured.
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>>81049138
Anyone have the one that says "Mankind is introduced to capekino"?
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>>81050094
The only reason Snyder's efforts look marginally better is because he hides everything in darkness.
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>>81050991
Reeve was so damn good. Want to see something funny? I'm pretty sure Miller's channeling his spirit during this scene,

https://youtu.be/Ctq92kkmPCc
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>>81051027
Never without it.
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Which Marvel character or franchise would you like Snyder to direct?

I think a Hulk movie from him would be pretty cool
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>>81051161
Hulk or Thor.

Or Hulk AND Thor
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>>81047941
Snyder was born to direct a Batman movie yet he was responsible for Superman, a superhero who he doesn't even like nor fits the style of his movies.
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>>81051226
Somebody on their team like Superman an awful lot. There's too much understanding of what sort of role he fills in the DC universe for them not to like him.
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>>81049375
Yeah but will he able pull something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnNwMiOWDM0
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>>81051420
I hope so. I honestly have no idea how much they collaborated, but it's so seamless, I'd say quite a bit.
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>>81051161
Moonknight
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>>81051161
Vs Barracuda or maybe the Slavers arc. Stand-alone and not related to the MCU bullshit.
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We all agree that BvS soundtrack > MCU right? Notice I don't say MCU soundtrack but the entire MCU
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>>81051671
Besides the theme of the Winter Soldier in Captain 2 I can't really recall any OST for the MCU.
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>>81048812
It's not The Raid or fucking John Wick but it is competently shot and cut.
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BvS is so underrated it's not even funny
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>>81051701
Not even the Avengers theme?
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>>81047941
>Manchildren who read comics written by manchildren actually defend no-kill rules, despite them just being a way to keep rogue's galleries around and not need to pull out bullshit resurrections for characters like the Riddler
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>>81051909
Maybe its me being musically illiterate but no, I can recall a theme being played over and over again in these movies but I can't remember it.
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>>81051671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b357dSg2w9E

Greatest Joker theme.
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>>81051937

I haven't seen a no-kill rule in effect in the DCEU yet, and I'm betting it will continue to happen circumstantially.

One thing people forget that's a damn fine defense of the no-kill rule is that it's the compromise they have to make to even operate, since they're not officially a policing body.
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>>81052058
It's fucking fantastic as a Lex theme. All that staccato percussion mimicking a clockwork.
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>>81051937
>normie who has never picked up a Batman book thinks the no kill rule has any weight on the actual quality of the stories

lmao
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Man Suicide Squad sucked. Just give Snyder full creative control of the DCEU. He knows his shit.
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This movie deserves a 6/10 on the OST and action alone, even Doomsday wasn't that bad on the big screen
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>>81050966
He said "save Martha". Because Martha was going to die.
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>>81052347
Clark's going to come back thinking Bruce is some kind of psychic. That's all I'm saying.
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>>81052317
It deserved Oscar noms for OST and visual effects. Also a cinematography nod because Larry Fong killed it. It was very absurd seeing it rejected in special effects but Dr Strange nominated for its lackluster effects.
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>>81052303
SS sucked ass because Warner Bros suck dick and they would rather trust test audience instead of a director like Ayer. Probably his cut wasn't anywhere near as bad the theatrical release with the 'please make it look like GOTG' reshoots.
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>>81051701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkG4tUehC88
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>>81051420

I think he might
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXB8mrF5Pr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rtk6Ept8DE
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>>81052430
>It deserved Oscar noms for OST
This was my biggest surprise. Say what you will about the flaws of BvS but the fucking OST was amazing.
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>>81052430
Who won OST? Fucking Academy hacks giving SS an oscar to make it up to Snydra. They ruined the DCEU, them and the fucking critics
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>>81047941
I am not an expert on flamethrowers but should shooting it make it explode immediately?
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>>81050328
>That top image
>Nutted_and_she_still_sucking.jpg
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>>81047941
>Nothing good since The Dark Knight Rises
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>>81050328
>pay homage to the best spiderman movie
>ruin it with lolnvm Ironmanlet saves the day anyway
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>>81052740
Capeshit is all that
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>>81052740
Nolan's Batman is kino
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Okay when he started to machine gun people and that truck blew up are those badguys still alive? I mean doesn't he have some sort of no-kill clause?
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>>81052787
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>>81051111

is that sarcasm or what? genuinely not sure. Reeve was absolutely amazing and totally nailed the clarke vs kal el dichotomy
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>>81052833
"Tell me Alfred. 20 years in Gotham. How many good men did we meet? How many stayed that way?"

Needless to say, BvS Batman is someone that has seen some shit and no longer believes the ideals that made him Batman.

He returns to his older self after Superman's sacrifice
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>>81052833
you didn't watch the movie, did you ?
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>>81051161

Daredevil
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>>81047941
Amazing, first time I see this scene.
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>>81052833
Why does the gun sounds like BRRT and not pew pew? It might be like non-lethal bullets.
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>>81052708
La La Land.

Didn't even bother nominating BvS. I've listened to everything nominated and nothing came close to the BvS score. Fuck them.

Also Rogue One and Dr Strange for visual effects but not BvS? Ok I will never not be butthurt about that.
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>>81051937

Source on that Snow White?
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>>81053061
it's from rondo duo apparently
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>>81050991
The real Superman wouldn't get btfo by a horse.
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>>81053060
Warcraft deserved a nomination for the mo-cap alone for visual effects. The green screen wasn't any worse than MCU movies anyway.
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"I don't deserve you, Alfred."
"No, sir. You don't."
I never understood this, can someone help me?
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>trailer made this scene a spectacular rush of Batman kicking the shit out of people
>actual scene has dreadful pacing that makes the fight feel like it's playing at half speed, zero momentum

Sucks shit like the rest of the movie.
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>>81053174
Batman has been a bitter cunt for years completely carried by Alfred.
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>>81049051
Men
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>>81053174
Batman's acknowledging that he hasn't done anything to deserve Alfred's kindness and loyalty. Alfred agrees, but in the same breath calls him "sir," meaning that his loyalty remains despite being unearned.
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>>81053181
>its not marvel so it sucks
your criticisms are shit, leave
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>>81051161
NOT MARVEL
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>>81053293
>insulting DC garbage means I like Marvel

Sad world you live in m8
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>>81047941
Why does DCucks keep laughing Marlel quips when this is full of quips?
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>>81051937
>Bateman invokes no-kill rule in TDK
>Heat Legend dies irl
what did DC mean by this?
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>>81053284
Thanks.

tfw no Alfred
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITy8829vksg

This is so nice.
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Batfleck is a majestic sight to be hold. I bet Joker will be full on gay for him in this universe.
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Can someone link the droning choir song from the end of BvS from the scene, when superman sacrificed himself / died? It was beautiful as fuck
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>>81053340
DC films have always had humor. From Reeves Superman to 90's Batman to Nolan Batman to BvS. Quips are usually a trademark out of tone joke. Marvel overdoes this. It's because their audience is mostly kids so they have to constantly reassure them that it's all for fun and jokes. The funny lines in BvS are the characters themselves saying them. In Marvel, every character is the same because they're all quip bots.
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How come DC series are set in fictional cities while Marvel gets the real cities?
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>>81053410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdc6QjBNOOU
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>>81053423
That's how it's always been
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>>81053410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdc6QjBNOOU

?
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>>81053446
But why
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>>81053462
Thats the one, goosebumps stuff right here - thanks man
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>>81047941
>Do Marvel even try to compete at this point?

No, paki shills are clearly too hard to beat
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>>81052759
homage? more like a butchering.
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>>81053499
>It's this new layer of armor
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>>81053129

Or balding and failing at an believable american accent
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>>81053340
Because Marlel quips are embarrassing to hear. In my theater you could hear people cringing with that Beyonce shit, with a couple of laughs here and there
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>>81053489
Not really a reason. DC has fictional cities based off of real ones. Gotham, metropolis, emerald city, and plenty more. Just part of the world they created. Marvel always had actual cities for their characters, with some made up ones such as black panthers home or namor.
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>>81047941
even angry batman cant save this movie
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>>81053572
>So it's Wong?
Audience is silent
>Just Wong?
People look at each other, wonder what the deal is
>Nothing but Wong?
Someone lets out an awkward chuckle
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>>81053596
Save from Disney's paid Pakis, not even Jesus could.
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Best action scene in any capeshit right there. The pace is perfect, the camerawork is oscar tier, no seizure tier cuts. Seriously 8/10, better than that Daredevil's poor rip off of Old Boy
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>>81053441
;_;
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>>81047941

how can you watch this scene and not think it's perfection? in all honesty, even the fucking quip at the end was on point, jesus christ
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>>81048542
Spoken like a butthurt DCfag.
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>>81049138

>tfw this image shows up in the theater

at that point, I actually had a "this is going to be batshit insane" moment
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>>81053702
Too much of that testosterone-fueled rage.
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>>81053499
This is Inside the Cowl.
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>>81049138
>was mixed on MoS
>watch
>get surprised by the intro and how simple and effective it captured Batman's character
>this frame comes up
And then, I became a believer.
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>>81051161
punisher
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>>81052480

I actually liked thor 2, even if darcy singlehandedly ruined that movie

>that moment when loki finds out about frigga

goddamn
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Why didn't Bruce kill that crazy bitch in Suicide Squad in the ending scene? She deserved it.
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>>81053415
>Quips are usually a trademark out of tone joke

Um, no they're not.
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>>81053834
For real?
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>>81053882
In popular term on /tv/, they are. Humor has always been in films. But quips is usually when characters break character to tell the audience it's ok calm down it's all fun and games Iron Manlet will deal with this.
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>>81052713
Unsurprisingly, they did their homework here, too.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-616500.html

It took KGBeast's turning toward where the gas was leaking with the wand's pilot flame to ignite it. From the couple of videos I watched, they might have even overplayed the effect a little. I saw more than a couple that only produced a flaming gas jet.
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>>81053751
same here bro
i got this feeling : i can't really describe it but i knew this movie was going to be something different than any other super hero movie
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>>81051161
Captain America, I loved TWS but TFA was ruined by peggy cuntsplaining and not enough WWII action, CW is a mess outside of Cap + Bucky scenes
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>>81053441
This sounds great, I didn't really aprpeciate the track when I first heard during the movie a year ago. Might have to rewatch BvS tonight.
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>>81053766

how the FUCK can testosterone-fueled be a goddamn argument for a shitty movie?

>misoginy
>paternalistic
>fascist

I completely fail to see how ANY of those attributes, even if they were true (which they are not), make a movie bad

maybe someone here needs to tell me an example because I can't think of a single movie where these arguments qualify as a factor of a shitty movie
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>>81052195
I've read plenty of Batman from days on /co/ before tumblr took over. Never followed anything contemporarily, but I've still read a ton of comics. Alan Moore was completely correct about everything he's said regarding comics and those who read them. No-kill rules and shared continuity are two ridiculous constraints on storytelling. Fuck me the Joker shit drives me off the wall.
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I love the way the goons occasionally get one up on Bats. A couple of them were smart enough to grab him by the cape, get him to the ground and stab him. Makes fights way more interesting.
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>>81053974

the weird thing is that these two lines actually have a pretty huge effect. The statement is so simple, yet powerful at the same time. It's like saying something like "Hiroshima - The atomic bomb is dropped"

is there a term for this shit?
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>>81053902
Yes
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>"Batman v Superman…Dawn of Justice: Ultimate Edition is probably the film I’ve seen the most from last year," Baruchel admitted to JoBlo. "I’ve watched it about seven times…"

>The interviewer then pointed out how Zack Snyder's divisive film has a "really distinct vision" as compared to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

>"THANK YOU!" he excitedly agreed, then explained why. "This is what I said, even when I saw the theatrical one and didn’t love it. In its weakest moment, it has more choice, style and commitment to it than the best moment in [Captain America:] Civil War. Civil War, I can’t tell you what it’s about or who made it. You watch BATMAN V SUPERMAN you know exactly what it’s about and he fucking committed to a choice and DC always does that."

>He added, "I think history’s going to regard that as the world’s most expensive indie film."
http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/03/18/jay-baruchel-defends-batman-v-superman/

Why is this movie and his director so loved by people in the industry and so hated by nerds and the flick filosopher and her kind /tv/?
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>>81054021
How the fuck can a movie be fascist?

Maybe it's possible for a political movie to portray fascism in a positive light.

But how in the FUCK can a superhero movie about guys in capes beating each other up be considered fascist?
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>>81053864
moments of kino
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>>81050834

It looks like HTF Gotham. When Futura turned into a meme, Gotham took over. It was Obama's official font for a while, and I remember hearing that the MPAA was going to adopt it for their preview text, but I might be wrong about that.
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>first time seeing it thinking it was a really good action blockbuster
>that slow feeling you get when you think about it afterwards and realize it's so much more and then even more
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>>81054104
this
>>81054127
this, but idk if there is a word
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>>81054021
>>81054182
anything that encourages masculinity or pride in male features is offensive according to liberals.

all movies have to be fun turn your brain off flicks for the whole family to enjoy!
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>>81053766
It is testosterone fueled, but it's not fascist. It's the opposite of fascist. Batman literally becomes a villain to stop tyranny. The lurking threat during all the movie was superman snapping and saying "fuck it", and going full Injustice. Not even in her shill review gets her facts right
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>>81049046
>He thinks BvS is art
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>>81054182
It's because it portrays Superman as basically an ubermensch (which is what Superman is) and him being a better man than lowly humans.

And there is also the angle of the media portrayed as generally clueless and hateful which makes Bruce even more isolated. And then the rich billionaire who seeks knowledge to gain power but falls short as he realizes that power is more than just knowledge.

Somewhere, BvS almost becomes self-aware in its desire to remain apolitical but realization that it never will be seen as much.
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>>81054284
>it actually is
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>>81054162
This would be impressive if it was some famous director or something.. but this dude is known for being "that guy" in DUDE WEED LMAO flicks.

And this is coming from a DC fan.
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>>81053060
>La La Land.
Ok I'm mad
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>>81053953
You don't know what quips are.
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>>81054364
It's not just him, DeKnight (the guy who made the only good thing in the Netflix MCU) praised Zack, Cameron praised him too and many others.
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>>81054162
>watched that piece of crap 7 times
What a life
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>>81054557
Imagine this sad Disney Pedro, spends all his day ranting about BvS hoping Disney will give him more taco money.
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>>81052823
Careful, people might think you're being serious.
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>>81054557
I'm sure he doesn't lurk threads of movies he doesn't like for years on end in a taiwanese shadow theater internet symposium. It could be waaaaaay worse
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>batman has a no gun rule
>batman has a no kill rule
This scene made me die inside
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>>81054557
Doesn't matter friend. There is no difference in watching BvS 7 times or 7 MCU movies.
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>>81054705
You will find way more new things on your 7th BvS watch than watching 7 different MCU movies.

If that's a compliment to BvS or a complaint towards MCU, that's for you to decide.
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>>81054681
Yeah i like Zack but i still don't know what the fuck he was thinking with that.

Batman's most defining trait is probably his no kill rule, and they just get rid of it like it's nothing.
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>>81048205
Yikes. The background looks like an unfinished matte painting, the set looks like it's made from plastic and foam, the composition isn't even good, and to top it all off Tony looks like he's drunk and just stumbled through the back of the greenscreen into the shot. What a joke.
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>>81047941
Did they fuck?
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>>81055122
that's probably an accurate description actually
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>>81055033
>and they just get rid of it like it's nothing.
>like it's nothing
Nope. It's Bruce's defining character moment in BvS. Why is he violent? What has changed? How does this play into his perception of Superman? How does he view humanity?

The loss of Batman's moral code is essential to the story of BvS.
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>>81054784
>Deleted
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>>81055033
>Batman is broken and has lost hope after w/e happened over the course of 20 years, including Robin's possible death
>caught himself ready to kill a son trying to save his mother, much like what had happened to him when he was a child where he saw his parents die in front of him
>Superman's sacrifice made him believe in others again
>tfw he was redeemed in the end by sparing Luthor's life instead of killing him mercilessly like the 'old' Batman would have done
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>>81055226
>caught himself ready to kill a son trying to save his mother, much like what had happened to him when he was a child where he saw his parents die in front of him
Marlets will never understand the meaning of this. The utter hate in Bruce when he comes to this realization. The thought that he had become his own worst enemy. Poor guy
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>>81054681
>>81055033
We all have seen Batman a million times. We all have seen BTAS, Burton, Schumacher and Nolan's version, and they are all very similar. Pushing the boundaries of a character is a good thing. That's the mistake Marvel/Sony is making and that is going to kill Spiderman as a character. If you reboot it three times in 15 years, the three times the same guy by different actors, that shit is ruined. It's weird to think about it this way but Spiderman used to be as popular as Batman, and now his movie has to be saved by Iron Man. Snyder did right by making him kill, it fits his rage dominated character. He's no redeemed until the very end, when he spares Luthor's life. That "if I kill you I'll be just like you xD" shit is the worst anyways
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>>81055179
Yeah, Bruce regaining his soul is sort of his character arc throughout the movie.
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>>81055179
>>81055332
But he can still come across broken and violent without being a murderer. it's sad that a character who believed for most of his life in a certain idea and code just gives it up like it's nothing.

it's just like yeah he kills people now.. we don't even get to see the first person he kills, how would that have affected him? we don't know.

i feel it would have been better if he still didn't kill but slowly become more broken and degraded over the movie and he was intent on killing Superman so that would have been his first kill until the climax of the fight.
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>>81053060
to be fair Jackie should have won best score
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>>81055226
>>81055226
This. If anything the no-kill rule is more relevant and "powerful" in BvS than in any other movie. By seeing Batman not following it we see him as the corruption of the character we all know he is. He's literally "not muh Batman". By not killing Luthor, we know he's back at the good Batman from the other versions
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>>81055477
The movie isn't not about how he gets to this point, it's about how he gets out of it.
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>>81055320
evryone understands it, it's just nobody cares because it had no proper build up and since DC fans who love this movie don't understand story structure are the only ones who thinks it works

Everyone got the joke, it just wasn't funny.
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>>81055620
>>81055551
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>>81055551
Exactly!
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>>81055551
well it shouldn't have been. it's not as impactful if there's no build up.
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>>81048205
Spiderman ft. Iron Man from The Avengers ;)
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>>81052958
That would be amazing!
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>>81055737
They show the murder of his parents and Joker having killed Robin. What does the scar on his body tell you?
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>>81055737
It's not an arc if you start and end at the same place.
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>>81055551
>>81055655
Obviously and no one cares how he gets out of it, becuase the move failed to do anything to make the audience care if he gets out of it.

In DKR we see how the death of Rachel has consumed bales charcater by him slowly losing everything.

It's not even clear what the stakes are for batman or why should we even care that he stops killing people.
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>>81055551
except he is a murderer
once a murderer always a murderer
no level of redemption will change that
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>>81050910
whats that thing snyder is always wearing in his arm?
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>>81055860
We care. How can no one care then? Why do assume yourself representative of all? Kill yourself Marlet.
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>>81055860
>Obviously and no one cares how he gets out of it, becuase the move failed to do anything to make the audience care if he gets out of it.
>It's not even clear what the stakes are for batman or why should we even care that he stops killing people.
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>>81055620
The scene with his mother dying was in the movie and he had a speech about how 'people' that he knew in Gotham had changed over the course of the years. Superman yelling Martha, which happened to be his mother's name as well made him realize about how he had changed too. I am not arguing that the movie had a proper story structure or that it was flawless by any means but Batman's arc was great in this.
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>>81054612
>that fucking picture

why is our guy such a CHAD
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>>81055901
Why do you care and what did the movie do to make you care?
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>>81050549
Bam's gonna build a skatepark for Superman. In Antarctica.
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>>81055900
Looks like some kind of sleeve for carrying paper to write notes on.
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>>81050328
100% shit
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>>81055961
Read the thread. This time without throwing hissy fits.
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>>81055860
>no one cares
You don't care because you're a fucking pleb that needs the character to be "likeable" to feel empathy for him. Yeah, in BvS Batman is not a likeable character, but you can still care for those characters. Watch more movies
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>>81056007
No I am asking you personally
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LOL DUDE LET ME HOLD THIS GRENADE LMAO.

LOL DUDE BEING PUSHED BY A CORPSE MEANS I HAVE TO DROP THE GRENADE NOW LMAO

LOL LET'S JUST STAND THERE WITH OUR GUNS AND WATCH HIM KILL OUR GUYS.
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>>81056065
I've already explained once. Just read the thread again. From the top.
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>>81054681
stop talking about things you know nothing about.

Batman went berserk when Robin died, he started bending rules, then Superman fixed it, just like at the end of BvS.
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>>81056130
Sound like you don't have an answer then.
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>>81050453
are you retarded? Flash comes from the future to send Batman a message. Somehow he also gives him a vision of the future. The Parademons look a lot like the things in the Justice League trailer. I think they are like proto-parademons. Justice League is the next step toward that future where Darkseid invades.
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>>81056213
It's unclear how Batman is receiving the visions as of yet
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I liked BvS but Batman should have never killed, there's no build up or meaning for it, it's just thrown in your face.

Affleck was amazing in this film, take out all the lethal kills in this movie and it makes no change to the character he still comes across broken and defeated.
Superman could have been Batman's almost first kill like on the verge of passing the point of no return. but nope. he's casually a murderer now.
even in the future movies if he's stopped killing he will always be a murder that gave up, that was too weak and that ruins his character a little bit for me.
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>>81048312
Seriously.
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>>81056057
No not likeable but in some way relatable. I can get behind the emotion of a character wanting revenge like in the count of monte cristo or the revenant. But you have to go through some psychological loops to attach batman to wanting revenge for his parents by going after superman?

Psychology is shit for motives, emotions are what make audience care.
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>>81047941
I wonder if I've outgrown action movies, or if they've become shit.
I particularly can't stand the faux-serious vibe in most modern superhero movies, where they try to portray the world as realistic, which makes the exaggerated action seem far cheesier.
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>>81056057
A lot of people didn't care, only DC fans who are in denial cared, others found it entertaining as a turn your brain off movie but they didn't really care either.
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>>81056313
My guess is that when Superman resurrects, he's going to do some very bad shit. And it will start with Lois dying.

Batman's nightmare is a unique look into the future films. The villain Superman might well become reality some day.
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>>81056494
You're still at it you mentally stunted Marlet. Seek help.
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>>81056579
I'll leave you alone to play with your meme toys then.
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>>81056537
It's a contrived cop out.
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>>81056662
What a retarded statement.
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>>81056754
Then why did you post it?
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>>81056537
Mind-controlled.
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>>81056163
Post a picture when he kills someone then
The comics that are canon have him toeing the edge but never crossing the line ya dingus
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>>81056832
It must suck knowing nobody on this board gives a shit about Marvel. Even Homecoming threads die after 10 posts.
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>>81056057
Get over it, batman and BvS in general was trash. Plenty of films have "unlikable" characters that the audience still enjoy watching.

Chigurh was pretty cool and a great character but he wasnt very "likeable" at all, but he was an engaging character. He had motivations and conviction. Most villains in movies are "unlikable" but audiences enjoy them when their motivations are clear, when they have character and when they are enjoyable to watch, even in all their madness.

Batman had no clear motivation and didnt stand by anything.

Morals? Nope, he killed thugs, oh ok hes a loose cannon then, nope he doesnt kill every thug he meets.

Batman wants revenge aginst superman, ok fine, gets his chance to kill him, nope, and then Martha happens.

Batman is driven insane because of the arrival of the Superman ( whoa how deep) but isnt sent further into a frenzy when he realizes that Diana is potentially immortal, and that there are others with abiities in the world. None of that mattered he just had a hate boner for Superman...why again?
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>>81056963
>Batman is driven insane because of the arrival of the Superman
Glad I skipped to the last paragraph as it ousted you as the retard Marvel drone you are.
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That was quality, I've held off watching BvS for ages cause I'm so over capeshit, honestly I wouldn't defend either companies cause Marvel is shit too. But that was a fuckin well directed action scene, really makes you buy how powerful Batman is. I'd maybe even consider watching it after that, if it wasn't over 2hrs fucking long.
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>>81057043
Also I'd like to add I've seen both Avengers & Civil war + GotG and they were all dog shit (I like Gunns stuff pre capeshit tho), how anyone can defend those films blows my mind. Grow up and get some taste you swines.
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>>81056943
shit threads always get a higher post count. look at waifu threads or CIA threads.
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>>81057043
BvS should not even be considered same genre as Marvel's visual feces. I suggest you watch it if you love films like Excalibur. It's more in that spirit.
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>>81057016
If BvS is hands down a masterpiece as I assume you think it is, it should be easy as hell to shut me down with a counter argument. You have nothing because that which you defend is trash. Yea, Im a marveldrone, you figured it out man. Awesome.
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>>81057305
I do love Excalibur and I've not heard that comparison before. Consider my interest further piqued now. Anyone who is a fan of the Marvel films is either 15 years old or a total and utter pleb.
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>>81047941

The only shitty thing is batman killing people when a few changes here and their and it would have been exactly like Arkham Batman.
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>>81057305
Read the thread, my frustrated friend. There is no need to be this mad.
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>>81057376
watch the extended
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>>81057420
>you go and search why I'm right
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>>81050910
I think it's a bracelet that quaterbacks in americna football usaually wear to keep track of formations but he probably uses it for notes.
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>>81050910
>>81057869
that's his kino plan for the day
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>>81048205
AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>81050910
>Look, i've got a great idea for the Justice League ending. What if Darkseid and Batman both had Fathers with the same name!
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>>81048205
>That cinematography
Will this be marvel kino
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>>81052317
Doomsday wasn't bad, as far as threats go. But I really hated his design. He just looked like a Jackson LotR Troll to me. Where are all the bone-spike protrusions?
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>>81053902
In the movie there is a scene where Alfred was tinkering around with it and playing with the voice changer
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>>81054284
Well yeah... aren't all movies?
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>>81057869
Pretty lame
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>>81051553
UUUUUH I like that idea!
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>>81052958
I mean i'm extremely happy with what Netflix has done but i would to see that shit too.
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>>81053980
Peggy ruined that movei? Are you fucking for real? It made that movie so much better, are you so much triggered?
Also CW wasn't a mess, the only big flaw was the fight not being more intense, tho i did love how it ended.
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>>81047941
Which Batman game is this?
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>>81054555
>DeKnight
Holy shit i didn't know i am so happy about that and i can understand how, their style are extremely similar.
Dareevil Season 1 is probably still my favorite, even tho Season 2 has some incredible moments aside from the monumental Punisher's arc.
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>>81051161
Marvelman, Ghost Rider.
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Is this him legitimately fucking up?
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>>81052922
>still shooting people in Justice League trailer
"No."
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>>81050328
Honestly I think having Iron Man there and the rest of the Avengers already established ruins the Spider-Man origin story.

That sense of wonder isn't there when everyone else is already super and it's not just some kid exploring his powers on his own and having to figure out how to balance the alter-ego with being a teenager but instead working to join the super best friends club.
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>>81055996
that cannot be real.
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>>81059975
Spider-Man has more diversity now. It will be great. Believe me
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>>81059963
>still shooting people in Justice League trailer
source?
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>>81059948
As it is shown throughout the movie, he is getting old and he uncontrollable murderous behaviour has amade him wanting to hurt more than just getting people knocked down, so yes, this is him letting the rage control him and not sensing the guy behind.
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>>81059806
Daredevil honorary DC
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>>81059963
He's shooting fucking aliens you fuck, Avengers killed aliens too
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>>81060167
this desu,
he was smashing the guys head open, he had already subdued him. It was really revealing of his character.
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>>81047941
>>81048205
Yes, they found DC's play book called ''Batman''.
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>>81054188

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>81056886
>snaps joker's neck

>people trying to kill batman all the time but if just one of them dies he's just like them!!!
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>>81050043
are you guys meming?? i mean, clearly DC has the better look, but marvel has been more entertaining, why the hell try to make up for it by making DC "intellectual"
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>>81053360
fucking this
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>>81060493
but no one will surpass Batman, ever
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>>81049051
Pyschological conditioning because Lex says Martha on the rooftop over and over. In Superman's mind he was naturally thinking Martha thanks to Lex.
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>>81056213
He didn't give him a vision, that was an alternate timeline artefact. Essentially that future did happen and Batman was physically there doing those things. But then the Flash came back in time to our 'present day' when Bruce is sitting at the computer and the Flash ends up changing the timeline. Because of that, the future no longer happens.

Imagine suddenly being taken back to 5 years ago right now and your brain just happened to recall the last thing it could remember which is you reading this thread.
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>>81049138
K I N O G R A P H Y
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>>81052058
>>81052145
Hans thought of the idea as firstly it is the reverse tune of Clark Kent's theme and he uses a harpsichord because it is an instrument that plucks, unlike a piano. The plucking is used to illustrate that Lex is pulling the strings. Hans the audiokinographer
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>>81049138
Which superman movie is this from?
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>>81047941
It's really bizarre how Arkham this combat is. He's kinda just doing a sequence of Official Batman Moves.

I think this scene probably seems much more awesome if you haven't played the Arkham games. If you have played them, it seems more like a comedy scene.
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>>81047941
Fuck. This scene really makes you realize how shit Nolan is at directing action. TDK is mostly fantastic, but all the action scenes are an absolute joke compared to this.
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>>81047941
>That feel when this 10x better than the Doomsday fight

If Snyder dropped all this cosmic bullshit and just made a realistic Batman movie with Leto Joker and Deathstroke he'd make a fucking killing.
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>>81059948
Yup. The whole point of the film is that this Batman has been consumed by rage. You see him take his time to hurt people in this scene instead of being purely efficient. That allows the gangsters to get the drop on him a few times.
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>>81056494
this is what people talk like when they've spent too long in their echo chambers
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>>81048812
https://youtu.be/fyZNJA4KsIc?t=213
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>>81059975
I agree, but I don't want to see another origin story.
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>>81048812
>Its shot like ass, spatial editing is all over the place, you can barely tell what the fuck is going on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0hATPE_oGY
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>>81049175
>>81053751

It's an interesting frame and at least has the balls to try something different. Unfortunately, the very obvious CGI and derivative plotline detract from the film too significantly from the quality for me to enjoy it.
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>>81068111
w-what
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>>81055507
This anon knows what's up.
It was either Jackie or Moonlight. Me Me Land is complete garbage.
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I really love Watchmen. But BvS faggots and trolls alike; this must stop. There is a point where a JUST 'okie doke' movie presents itself as kino, whilst injecting shameless, in-your-faec advertising, back and forth, until the movie "just sort of ends" to quote the great Dennis Reynolds.

Batman v* Superman is kino wrapped in crap. The sooner we all accept this, the sooner these threads stop. Because, you can't eat a taco without the tortilla.

>Captcha: Church Club
You know who I am.
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>>81049138
>And in the dream they took me to the light, a beutiful lie
I loved that...
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>>81068606
To back up my memeing and somewhat schizophrenic post I present to you the ultimate BvS killer. I pray somebody defend this.

Pic related is the scene immediately following a gross audio foreshadowing by Morpheus where he says he h4cked Supes' (((Dropbox))) and found that he was obsessing over the Batman. He says NOBODY is interested in Clark Kent versus the Batman. Fucking profound. Enter king jew and Hardees.

>serie ROAD
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>>81048205
Wait. So he just wears a tux when he gets in the suit?
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>>81068984
Forgot my pic, but I am probably just going to keep derailing these shit threads until you niggers understand how horrible BvS was, instead of trying to find meaning in your precious disaster. YOU hyped it up...YOU are responsible for the butthurt you felt watching it in theaters. The Ultimate Edition does no favors, either. Although I'll admit it is the better of the two crap versions.

>CALLE Eton
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>>81068984
Are you having a stroke?
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I liked the movie but this was when it turned kino for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltp-8TZQ3D4
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>>81048812
>Its shot like ass, spatial editing is all over the place, you can barely tell what the fuck is going on
you must have been watching this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5__DLJfGqM
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>>81049138
I can never tell if 4chan is being ironic or not about BvS, I imagine most people are being ironic, but some retards actually do think that piece of shit movie is good
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>>81050876
>made Superman a genuinely good character

is that why he gave him less screentime and lines than spider "cameo" man in Civil War?
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I hope justice league has more of this time of fighting, but i doubt it will
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>>81055951
overcompensating for being a manlet
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>>81047941
Do you live in backwards land? Are you so intensely retarded that you confuse colored-filtered bullshit for quality filmmaking?
Are DCucks all shortbus kids?
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>>81059108
Did you even watch the movie. DOOMSDAY kept evolving as the fight went..
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>>81047941
So he blows up the floor, shoots a grappling hook through the hole, without hitting the guy he doesn't know is directly above him, shoots up, and fires a bunch of little gizmos that disable ALL of the bad guys' guns BEFORE they even try to shoot him?

Fucking hell. How the fuck is he able to aim and fire every single one of those devices onto exactly the right spot on the guns to disarm them ALL? They're in a circle around him for God's sake. He'd have to either manually aim and hit with 100% accuracy so fast that nobody can even pull their triggers before he's done, or he's got some kind of bullshit technology that can lock on and fire from his belt. Which is more bullshit, because he'd have to know exactly where they would be, where he would be, and how he was going to execute the mission ahead of time. And even just having this device at all is a fucking plot contrivance in and of itself.

The fight choreography in that scene was OK and it was entertaining, but the editing...

Isn't Batman supposed to be the believable one? Are you all going to ignore the fact that he killed like 26 people in this movie? I know that nobody thinks about these things on their first watch through, but you can't just fucking ignore it
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>>81047941
Literally the only good scene in the movie
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>>81072233
>less screentime
got your facts mixed up again disneylet. you were pushing more lines last time
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>>81049138
What a childish pretentiousness
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>>81060530
Relax Zack
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>>81069521
I really dislike watching the news in a movie.

It's so lazy.
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>>81047941
>Do Marvel

Are all DC cucks this retarded or are some just stupid?
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>>81048205
Lmao is the new marvel flick Spider-Kid?
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>>81073470
They're either children, retarded or speak English as a second language.
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>>81054284

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