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Why do I feel like they are gonna fuck it up!

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It is a terrible movie based on a terrible anime and their lead actress has more spare tires than the Michelin man. Besides they already made this film two times before, Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet. Both failed at the box office.
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because the trailer is terrible?
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Stick to your capeshit bucko. This trailer looks 10 times better than any mcu or dc movies.
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>>80998133
Way to not even set a bar.
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>tagline is "everything they told me was a lie"
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they took kino and turned it into pandering schlock. the plotline will probably be simplistic and revolve around "omg, computers are evil??" shit.
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>>80998133
>shit is better than shit
>>80998447
This film is going to be shit but half of /tv/ will watch it.
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They took the poignant atmosphere and visual storytelling of the Oshii movies and turned it into LOOK AT THESE COLORFUL HOLOGRAMS WAVING AT YOU
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It feels too clean somehow, the city doesn't look dirty
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>>80998834
>It feels too clean somehow, the city doesn't look dirty
That's what the director wanted though. He said in an interview that this is a bright and colorful future where people love technology and it isn't your typical apocalyptic dark city.

Also, instead of 2030 movie has been changed to be 2070. That's actually better and more realistic.
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>>81000084
Then why does that apartment block look pretty grungy?
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>>81000194
>Then why does that apartment block look pretty grungy?
Because that's the bad side of the city just like in my local place there's the clean side and then where poor people live
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>>81000217
But that's not keeping with his supposed vision. Besides the grungy part is still too clean.
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>japanese people - even the creator of the manga - comment positively on the movie's look, casting etc. and understand that the movie isn't about race and it doesn't matter how the major looks
>happy that an originally japanese story will find a wide audience
>American and European justice police shits on it whenever possible without having seen it

can't make this shit up
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>>81000395
If it isn't about race then why did Jewish Hollywood cast the lead with a Jewess unfit for the role?
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>>81000491
>female action star #1
>unfit for the role

the movie itself isn't about race, the casting obviously is, because white actors mean more $$$
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>>81000491
>with a Jewess unfit for the role?

Because they need someone marketable in the lead, it's basic fucking business
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>>81000395
Fucking retard who doesn't understand the industry, OF COURSE they will speak positively of it as it's success means they also fare well financially. They didn't sell the rights for this to be made on the grounds of integrity and anyway the race shit isn't even a factor for me it's the typical america dumbs everything down to an action flick thing.
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>>81000589
Except she isn't that marketable. What was the last movie she has carried? She has never done this before.
>>81000558
Jews aren't white, kid.
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>>81000395
>comment positively on the movie's look
lel implying masamune shirou isn't just happy to get more money. Fucking kinokuniya is running a campaign where you get free tickets by buying GitS manga.

Also, constant reminder that shirow's pretty much going full not giving a fuck ever since he lost his lifework to the wreckage. He's stopped bothering with doing any of his sci-fi stuff, just drawing oily horsecocks.
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>>81000622
It seems to be more of a " I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR" vehicle. The action and futuristic sci-fi is just there to distract you from that.
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>>81000622
Not just that, the Japanese (and asians in general) are notorious for being 'polite'. They never say no outright. No shit, they'll say it's good.
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>>80997721
>this is major
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>>81000659
>What was the last movie she has carried? She has never done this before.

Are you dumb? Scarlett Johansson is statistically proven to be the most grossing female actress and she is probably the only female hollywood star right now who can carry a movie like that on her own like Lucy already showed. Without her in the lead the movie would bomb.
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>>81000659
She does decent to fine as long as she's not in an action role.
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>>81000900
Welp I guess it will bomb then.
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>>81001045
It won't though. For one thing, you know it'll be a hit in China. For another, the typical audience doesn't care, they just want an action movie with flashy CGs. For another, I've seen quite a fair number of weebs who claim to be looking forward to it. Some /a/nons claim it's just shills, but hey let's face it, if the typical movie goer cares, Bayformers wouldn't have been this big even when you exclude china.

Lastly, a lot of people did like her in Avengers, so clearly people like me who thinks she's not suited for action roles are the minority.
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I actually had a bit of faith in the movie up until now. But I just saw an ad on tv for it. You know what the tagline said?

>"Scarlett Johansson is THE GHOST"
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>dubstep music

yea, it's shit
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>>81001437
This isn't the first time a movie like this has been pushed. Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet seem pretty similar and both failed.
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>>81001605
The difference is, those were pushed at a time when international markets still don't matter.
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>>80998447
That line came out long ago and concern has long been confirmed
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>>81001678
Even if it does well enough in foreign markets to compensate for the loss in the domestic market Hollywood doesn't make films for the foreign markets. They are an afterthought and there is no clout in being big in China. If ScarJo wants to keep getting roles in Hollywood she needs to be big here, not there.
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>>80998738
why does batou look so fucking shit
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>>81001605
The difference is that Ghost in the Shell has a much bigger marketing machine behind it than these two had and that it also appeals to people, who are into more sophisticated movies, because of the original.
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>>80998738
This was one of the first they released.

I have been wondering why the above is just better than the below.

Why must they make a glowing bed? What would they lose if it's just a safe dark silhouette
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>>81002030
Why must the bed glow...
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>>81001939
>Hollywood doesn't make films for the foreign markets
Dude, hollywood's been sucking up china hard and they'll be getting more and more into that shit. It's like it's now mandatory for the big or prominent action films to contain at least one scene shot in china involving chinese people for plot stuff. They are more than just an afterthought these days. It's not just about whether scarjo herself want to work in china or not, it's that the higher ups are trying hard to court china.
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>>81001605
>>80998015
I have been thinking if Aeon Flux and Ultraviolet will look miles better than this
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Releases in a few days and no reviews out? Pretty much confirmed shit?
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>>81001678
Why would Chinese people help destroying a Japanese masterpiece
Aren't they supposed to be more familiar with anime than Hollywood ?
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>>81002216
>>>/a/
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>>81002075
The higher ups might be trying to sucker China into watching their flicks, but when it comes to your next project what they thought of you in China won't matter as much as what the Hollywood community thinks which is heavily influenced by the domestic rather than a bunch of cat and dog eaters. Plus China hates Japan so much. You can put as much window dressing as you like to make it seem Gaijin but they'll still know it is Nip.
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>>81002216
I can't think of any reason for chinks and nips to have any animosity.
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>>80998738
bokeh doesn't fit
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>>81002030

SHit like this is exactly why it will suck. Hollywood always makes dumb changes for no reason, in live action that shot would've been amazing, but the director has a """"""""""""vision""""""""""""

maybe there will one day be a studio that specializes in remakes, I mean they're popular enough but always fail because of normies trying to adapt the material
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>>80998447

How much did they even discuss the Majors backstory in the 1995 movie? Mos tof the movie was about AIs and Section 6 and 9 fucking with each other
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>>81002302
>changing the lighting in one shot is the reason it will suck

and how is Ghost in the Shell not for normies? the original was a huge success financially
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>>81002055

Well you solved the mystery, I was trying to figure out what was wrong with the visuals of this movie until you posted that picture, there's no hard, hard anime lighting. It's all soft and smooth looking.
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>>81002248
>Plus China hates Japan so much
The older gen does. The younger gen doesn't give much shit. Hell, anime is fucking big there that Japan themselves are putting more into advertising in the chinese market than they are with the US. It's not about window-dressing, it's the fact that there's a divide when it comes to politics and entertainment. Another example: China and Taiwan hates each other politically, but the chinese people happily consumes taiwanese media and taiwanese celebrities regularly turn up in chinese media as well.

> China won't matter as much as what the Hollywood community thinks which is heavily influenced by the domestic
Yes, but it sure are hell isn't an afterthought. Point is, using Ultraviolet and Aen Flux, as is the original start of this conversation, is no longer a valid comparison, because foreign markets actually matter now. Just because domestic is still the main priority doesn't mean it's an afterthought, it still matter and can make quite a fair amount of difference. Again, the fact that stuff like Bayformers to Arrival took the effort to include them shows that the chinese market matter enough that calling it an afterthought is an understatement.
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>>81002248
>China hates Japan
It depends
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>>81002329

i'm not saying the material isnt for normies, i'm saying the people working on it are normies, i mean it's the fucking director of snow white and the huntsman, and the lead writers only completed credit is "street kings" from 2008

and don't try to imply that i'm saying screwing up one shot, or just the lighting throughout the movie is why it will suck. you know i'm saying that it will be riddled with "Artistic liberties" such as that shot, and thats why it will suck.

it wont be "ghost in the shell" it will be "ghost in the shell watered down for normies"
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>>80997721
already looks better than the original

>>80998738
there was nothing poignant about the atmosphere, take off your weebgoggles
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>>81002440
Ok, then I misunderstood what you were trying to say. I agree with that. Of course a big hollywood blockbuster will not give the philosophical aspects of the original that much space, but I think it still has potential to be a decent movie. I kind of like the risk the studio took with turning a quite challenging manga/anime that most people probably never heard of (compared to things like Naruto or One Piece) into a big blockbuster.

With the director and writer I agree. Someone established like David Cronenberg could have turned it into something unique, but I guess most big directors aren't interested in that anymore.
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I don't get it.
It's clear that they want to cram as many of the "iconic" shots in there, but judging by the trailer they fucked every single one of them up.
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>>80997721
I just saw it tonight and it fucking sucked. Scarjo looks like she has aged poorly she had a fucking pot belly like jesus at least try and look the part. THe acting was awful they pulled key parts of the plot and the other characters seemed underpaid.

That said the visuals were nice
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>>81000558
But she's not a good actress.
She can play a single role somewhat well, but fails whenever she's forced to not look confused.
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>>81001985
They picked a guy with a wide face, rather than a bulky long face.
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>>81002617
Didn't she just have a kid before filming began? Either way it wasn't a good idea.
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>>81002625
I feel like people who say she's not a good actress have never seen any of the movies that made her so famous in the first place. She was phenomenal in The Girl with the Pearl Earring. Also very good in Match Point, Lost in Translation and The Other Boleyn Girl. Under The Skin was also very untypical for her. So I don't know where this hate is coming from. It's not like she's just in trash like Sandra Bullock or Ryan Reynolds.
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>>80998447
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>>81002440
This

The people charge of the visuals have no idea how to make something look good, even when they're just copying.
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>>81003000
do you people understand that there's a difference between an animated movie and one with real people filmed in the real world?
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>>81002640
Not sure but you could definitely see a belly it was just like right there. I saw it at an IMAX theatre so not only could you see it but I could gauge its depth and volume as well. There was definitely enough space to fit a featus perhaps even some other goods as well.

I don't know if it was scarjo or just the shitty director but the actors just seemed so uninspired like they knew it was gonna flop
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eehhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>Try to make visuals for GiTS
>Just throw a bunch of CGI shit all over the screen
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>>81003068
It's laughable at this point. The colors don't even mesh well. Some of the holograms look like stock photos with contrast cranked up.
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>>81003068
The live-action version would be even shittier with Oshii directing it.
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>>81000683
>just drawing oily horsecocks
sounds more interesting than this GITS movie desu
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>>81000683
What wreckage? Redpill me.
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>>81003197
What really confuses me is, if they wanted this sort of imagery why didn't they adapt Psycho Pass?
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>>81000848
I don't really buy this. It's been shown time and time again that the era when actors could carry a movie is long gone. Look at the new Malick.
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>>81003220
How so? He's directed live action before. Avalon was even made in a foreign country (Poland).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLb_Iqw4qk
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>>81003319
I know. He has the biggest hardon for CGI.
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>>81003020
Except that Ridley Scott already nailed that shit in Bladerunner ages ago. Even Dark City managed to get some of that atmosphere. Nah, the gits live action just has that same look as other contemporary sci-fi movies where they try to tune up all the bright holograms etc.
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>>80997721
>pg13
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>>81002326
Not much at all. The TV series in the second season dives deep, which is where Kuze comes in.

The new Arise also has a backstory where her brain was put into a prosthetic body before she was even born. So the 'lie' narrative has also been adapted from the anime.

So altogether the live action's story is meant to be a crowd pleaser drawing from all the anime. I gotta give the director credit for that atleast.
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>>81003399
dropped.
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Atlast, I truly have become the Ghost in Shell.
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>>81003248
His house got destroyed in the earthquake, great hanshin/kobe one, iirc. He lost pretty much everything; the materials, sketches, research etc for his stuff, all gone. There was originally supposed to be more Appleseed, but it appears that's either gone as well or he lost motivation or both. Either way, he's just not the same anymore after that. Fans think the loss really broke him because after that he's pretty much just doing hentai instead of elaborate sci-fi with lewd art.
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>>81003458
Fucking walked out of the theater right there
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>>81003458
I hack.
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>>80997721
>mediocre CGI everywhere
>cringe meme marketing
>Puppet Master isn't a sentient AI but Kuze the antagonist from SAC season 2
>ignore the core theme of GiTS and make instead a generic Bourne's Identity plot
>from early review the character act surprised when confronted to technology of their time.
no shit Sherlock
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Is there a review embargo on this shit? No press screenings? It's pretty much guaranteed to suck.
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>>81003280
How can you compare a Malick movie to something like Ghost in the Shell? It's a completely different beast. And Malick's problem is that he's now shitting out movies like Woody Allen. They all feel the same, they all look the same, they have nothing new to say. Shoving a bunch of big names in them won't change that. Whereas GitS's marketing is entirely built around Scarlett Johansson's star power and the movie's look.
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>>81003569
I have read some early review in France
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>>81003602
His example may be bad, but his point isn't entirely wrong though. I mean, they thought and did the same with Passengers and that didn't help much either.
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>that fucking disgusting Steve Aoki remix of Kenji Kawai

REEEEEEE
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Will GitS 2017 have a scene as powerful as Ghost City from the original?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-ik-Bpl0c
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>>81003956
In 2017 hollywood?

hahahahahAHAHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
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>>81003956
Not dense enough
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>>81002474
>nothing poignant about the atmosphere
>nothing poignant
>atmosphere
Sure champ, sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swmWZGgt4vk
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>>80997721
because they casted a white woman in place of an asian one
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>>80997721
I can already tell it's bad just by subtle decisions made in the art direction.

Because I'm the absolute authority in aesthetics for our time.
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>>81003319
>that soundtrack
>that sepia tone
>the part where doggo never exsisted
She would have been the perfect Major a decade ago.
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>>81003197
>throwing anything relatively asian to make it look 'exotic'
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how does her head go invisible without her suit covering it?
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>>81004190
You know that's a really good question
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>>81004190
The suit projects a field that conforms to her body.
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>>81002248
Only old guard Chinks hate the Japs. Younger Chinese don't care about shit that happened nearly 70 years ago and can't get enough of Anime like Attack on Titan.
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>>81004190
Honestly one thing I'm glad they got rid of was the Major having to strip down to her titties everytime she got naked, it was very off-putting for anyone who isn't interested in looking at anime boobs
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>>81004266
I meant everytime she goes active-camo, not naked
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>>81001485
>"Scarlett Johansson is THE GHOST"
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>>81004266
I always wondered why the guys don't do it. Like Batou and Aramaki.
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i really want to see this in 3d. too bad i live in germany and every movie gets a horrible (horrible) dub here. i'm going to wait for the bluray.
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>>81004190
>>81004266
They retconned that in SAC anyway
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>>81004302
Ellen Page is THE GHOST's cat.
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>>81004333
Yeah man
We want big sexy naked Batou
Fucking beast
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>>81004333
In the manga, some guys used it too.
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>>81004337

einige Kinos zeigen OV oder OmU. außer du wohnst in irgendnem Kaff
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>>81004190
Doesn't she wear a veil?
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>Atlast, I have truly become a Ghost in Shell.

Kino.
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>>81004467
in the anime
but doesn't appear to have one in these movie trailers
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>>81004431
wenn du nicht gepostet hättest, hätte ich nicht nochmal nachgeschaut. in meiner nachbarstadt gibts n cineplex, da läuft der film tatsächlich im o-ton und 3d, mitten in der nacht. cool da geh ich auf jeden fall hin
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You think she would make a good major?
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Aeon flux did not fail at the movies.
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>>81004532

viel Spaß, anon
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>>81004034
run of the mill cyberpunk atmosphere is poignant? lmao dude those weebgoggles sure are doing a number
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Vas is faggot No sense of Opinion.

Can You please have an Opinion?
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Nothing even happens in the original movie.

Tell me what the significance is of the tank shooting at the tree of life.
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>>81004734
pointless symbolism that weebs and teenagers alike jerk each other off to
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>>81004734
"Nothing happens" has become a standard complaint people lodge against any and all anime they don't like, and it makes no difference how much or how little actually happens.

>>81004772
It's not pointless just because you don't find it subtle or deep enough.
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>>80997721

Reviews decent, probably shit

Reviews embargoed, confirmed shit
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>>80998738
>rogot body
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>>81002055
The city outside the window are different.

The above looks like it's possible to be ""real"". The below is clear it's a symbol or an expression of a city. Like blame
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I can see Germans looking at France and Le'pen.... Oh we germans are better.... Hey look Brexit!!!
Hey look Trump!

In my opinion, Germans are castrated.

Faggots.

You are worthless.

Forget everything You know.

Learn to Really fight, fight to hurt.
Learn German Pride... Offended?
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>>81004966
What did he mean by this?
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>>81004966
>>81004987
No seriously what the fuck did this guy mean?
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>>81004966
...what? Are you off your meds again?
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>>81004966
I agree.
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What gives?
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Sorry faggots.

I am saying, Wake up Germany.

You have no respect right now.

Dump that merkel

Learn to fuck others! You are Capable Arian brother.
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>>81003248
http://www.kidfenris.com/2010/03/rise-and-fall-of-masamune-shirow.html
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Learn to fuck niggers and dont look back... Or You are currently Fucked Litaral Nigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YsL4HXZN9E
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>>81005300
literally keeping a review embargo until the movie releases so they can trick people to seeing the movie before the shit reviews come out
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Honestly, I didn't want to watch this movie as soon as they announce ScarJo as the lead.

But god fucking dammit, it looks like they're nailing everything else out of the park. Music is there, the aesthetic is basically perfect, characters seem loyal to the original manga.

Fuck it I'll watch it.
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>>81005362
This is just some clueless SJW fuck whining about someone making things he doesn't like, and trying to spin it as "pandering" and a "downfall." There's nothing unusual about porn manga in Japan.
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>>81005331

What are you even on about?
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>>81003197
the holograms, they look so stupid it's the thing that first put me off the film, in the first trailer


i don't like scarlett one bit but idk whatever but the holograms and giant head things? inexcusable. were they in the anime? i dropped the anime flick halfway through because it was really bad and not cyberpunk enough but did the giant holograms exist?
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>>81005606
Yeah, that article is retarded. The real downfall is that Shirow's art got worse. Though that might have to do with the fact that his lifeblood got destroyed in the earthquake.

>>81005645
Viral marketing where he's pretending to be a guy whose cyber brain got hijacked and now he's going full even electronic brain pancake crystal elderly
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^
Or maybe I am an Ultra Nationalist who Openly Defends his own kind.

I grew up with Niggers, but thats not important germany.
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>>81005549
Hi Scarjo
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>>81005716
i've heard that losing all his stuff made him try and use the shitty CG in his work even more, since he could use digital backups.
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I have never enjoyed Scarlett Johansson as an actress
and I've never been a tits-guy so I don't even find her attractive.
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Michael Mann is the only director who could make a good GITS flick. Shit, he could basically re-make Heat with subtle cyborg/tech upgrades and armor suits.
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>>81005890
German here

Fuck off retard, discuss the movie or go back to /pol/.
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Tell me this isn't GITS as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH58xearYzw
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>>81006304
Calm your tits Angela
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>>81006305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W0bqVdGeLo
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>>81006355
Fuck off cleetus
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The reality of the matter:

People are scared of any kind of fanatics.

The police are people to, its 50/50 some are scared others are openly hostile to me.

I am real, I am the ultra quite white guy who lives in a black neighborhood.

I see Germans as... people who need to learn how to fight again, Yhe I find it funny.
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>>81006559
No reality is you're an uneducated retard who buys into all the /pol/ shit.
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"You're"
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>>81006366
>>81006305
>>81006207

Fuck yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HmuFuRPv6o
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>>81000491
>But why did they cast one of the highest grossing, most popular actresses on the planet for the role?
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>>81004813
Because there's nothing subtle or deep about it
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>>81007042
And as I said in that post, it's not pointless just because you don't find it subtle or deep enough.
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>>81006582
"uneducated"
Ah, so you define reality or intelligence based on if you've spent numerous years within the leftist indoctrination machine of the education system. Well that's certainly an educated opinion.
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Tuesday suck.

3

No but seriously germany sucks, gays.
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>>81002288
a cheap way to mask the lack of detail in the scene
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Cheep
Shot.


Another round?
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Is this usual for a big movie? Do Marvel and Disney do it?
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>>81004660
>run of the mill cyberpunk
Are you saying somebody did GITS before GITS? If you're going to spout ignorant shit like that you better back your shitty claims up with examples.
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>>81008029
You can see the movie on the 29th where I love for a special screening
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>>81008099
live*
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>>81005549
>Music is there
The new remix of the song is so much better than the 1995 version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5amv-vqUFo
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>>81003931
Fuck off it's an amazing remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YbuVRBcPTw
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>>81008154
Is this kept in the movie? The music I mean. I hear not.
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>>81008220
Some Skryllex over the original music is not amazing. Kawai did better at remixing his own song.
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>>81008154
>new
It's just taken from Innocence.
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>>81008328
>It's just taken from Innocence.
yeah but it's still a new version.

The Innocence drums make it the best
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>>81008220
This is terrible my man. Cheesy and in poor taste.
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>>81008154
the original score is composed by Clint Mansell (with additional work by Lorne Balfe) dude
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>>81007148
>some american retard trying to teach me about my own country
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>>81000768
someone should ask 2ch what they think about it
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>SCARJO IS: BLOAT IN A SHELL
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>>81009452
Japan isn't getting the movie (in cinemas atleast) until April 7, so we'll have to wait.

I've heard that 3 of the original Japanese voice actors (of Motoko, Batou and Togusa) will be dubbing their characters again, so that'll be cool
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>>81009688
>watching dubs
i seriously hope japan doesn't do this
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>Ron Perlman not casted
Fuck this.
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>>80997721
So is the plot essentially Robocop?

Why would they do this? They HAD a plot. There is literally an existing movie for them to work off of.
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>>81008154
they're not using it in that scene though. an anon who saw it couple of days ago said it has its own dark synth song there (like deus ex hr / tron)
I think it plays in the credits
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>>80998738
This image is laid out in a really fucking stupid way.
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Superior
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>>81010133


lel, that porn parody was really dissapointing
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>>81008220
>someone listened to this and said :"Yes that's good"
Fuck Hollywood
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>>80998738
this is good, they won'y fuck this so much
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>>81001437
I live in Singapore and most weebs here are pretty excited about this movie. If it's decent enough it will probably do well in Asia.
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>>81000395
because we KNOW how western movies work, we know what looks like shit by now, we've seen it.

japs just call everything america makes good because of they have actual movie budget.
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>>81002055
the city background looks like a fucking painting put on the back of a set wall.
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>>81002900
what the fuck are they talking about
did these retards actually think ghost is just a synonym for soul?
way to miss the most basic plotline
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Obviously we know it'll be butchered in everyway, but as an enjoyable action movie I wonder if it'll be up to snutff
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