If Justice League lives up to Bvs and MoS, then Snyder will be

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*awaits the Marvel hordes to unleash their butthurt autism*

lel

that is incorrect because those films are all bad

>>80913573
Say what you will about SS and the theatrical cut of BvS, but MoS was literally the best out of all of them

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>>80913121

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>>80913563
>>80913573
>>80913667

>>80913121
That is absolute truth. The man knows his shit.

>>80913636
>it was the least smelly turd in this pile of shit

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>>80914439

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Even the posters are kino as fuck

>>80914484
That's beautiful.

Critics and "fans" who didn't love this movie on real ease or come to love it over time deserve to think of themselves as neither.

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The scene that proved Snyder as king of the genre.

>>80913121
True, true

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>>80914484
I like this one

>>80914726
I got chills.

I still do.

Do you think living your childhood with super-senses would look like autism to an observer? I've been curious about that.

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>>80914852
That one is so fucking beautiful, just like the film itself.

You guys are like battered wives at this point.

>>80914455
Bvs was more like: Batman being like ur 2 powerful and there's like a 1 percent chance ur bad so u need to die fag

>>80913153
>Without Snyder
9/10

>With Snyder
4/10

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http://ew.com/movies/2017/03/23/ratner-tomatoes-scores/

is he right?

should we DELET ROTTEN TOMATS?

I'm not big on superhero films in general but BvsS is the first film I've walked out on in at least a decade and I have no regrets. It was boring, and finding out later that Supermsn dies just made me all the more glad I did. A big dramatic scene where a lead character of the upcoming Justice League dies; yeah I'm sure it was a real tear-jerker. What a piece of shit. At least Man of Steel had entertaining villains.

>>80915095
He's just mad because Hercules sucked

>>80914455
>this is what DCucks actually believe

>>80915115
>complains about a scene he didn't even watch
These marlels have a constant state of brain damage

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>>80915189
I like following trends too, anon. They make me feel like I'm a part of something. Like I have friends. They help me forget about the loneliness. One of my favourite things to do when someone insults me or says that they don't care about superhero movies is to hit caps lock and type 'DCuck' or 'YOU'RE MAD'. For that one, brief moment, I forget I'm me. I forget that I don't have any friends. That I don't have a girlfriend. That no one would really care if I died. That I'm wasting my youth hanging onto the coattails of a company that I have nothing to do with. I can pretend I've accomplished something, and cling to the success of an industry that would not be affected one iota if I set myself on fire and jumped off of a bridge. That's the power of Marvel. That's the magic of Disney. I'm cold.

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>>80915215
You're right, it couldn't have possibly been any worse than the rest of the shitfest

>>80915298
You know next time you want to shit yourself over BvS again, try to give the appearance that you actually know what you're talking about instead of whining about scenes you didn't watch, you fucking retard.

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Go ahead faggots and tell me MoS' flaws, i know BvS has many and muh martha scene was terribly writen so forget it, just tell me whats the matter with MoS, faggots

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/03/18/jay-baruchel-defends-batman-v-superman/
>"Batman v Superman…Dawn of Justice: Ultimate Edition is probably the film I’ve seen the most from last year," Baruchel admitted to JoBlo. "I’ve watched it about seven times…"

The interviewer then pointed out how Zack Snyder's divisive film has a "really distinct vision" as compared to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

>"THANK YOU!" he excitedly agreed, then explained why. "This is what I said, even when I saw the theatrical one and didn’t love it. In its weakest moment, it has more choice, style and commitment to it than the best moment in [Captain America:] Civil War. Civil War, I can’t tell you what it’s about or who made it. You watch BATMAN V SUPERMAN you know exactly what it’s about and he fucking committed to a choice and DC always does that."
>He added, "I think history’s going to regard that as the world’s most expensive indie film."

What did he mean by this?

>>80915447
When Batman hears Martha’s name he is snapped back to the moment of his parents’ death and realises that he wasn’t the hero who was going to save the world from a dangerous alien, he was the man who was about to take a boy away from his mother. He was about to become the very thing he had fought against all his life and what had caused him to become Batman in the first place. Even though he was ready to kill Superman before, he had never thought of himself in terms of his parents’ killer and instead saw Superman as the killer. He lost his parents to a shooter “for no reason at all”, he lost Robin to the Joker (chaos) and he lost his last family, his employees to the Kryptonians’ war (that emerged out of nowhere).

But now he realised that he had things the other way around and that Superman was the victim and the man with a family, a mother and people that he loved and whom he was trying to save and was helpless to save at that moment. He saw things for what they really were: Superman was the boy about to lose his mother to a madman and that boy was helpless to save her. That is why when he realises all of this he throws the spear away in anger at what he had let himself become.

When Batman is faced with this reality he doesn't just come back from the edge and become good again, he manages to FINALLY come to terms with the loss he suffered for 30 years. By getting a chance to save Martha, he can finally do something that allows him to cope with his loss, which 20 years of fighting criminals and stopping evil couldn't do. It also reinstills faith in him that what he did for 20 years WASN’T a waste and that "what falls" ISN'T "fallen" permanently and that his life as Batman WASN'T just "a beautiful lie". This is proven at the end of the movie when he says, “Men are still good, we fight, we kill, we betray one another, but we can rebuild, we can do better, we will, we have to.”

>>80915550
Just like always, the Internet echoes /tv/ statements a year after. This is TFA all over again, everyone loves it initially, /tv/ calls it out for being a copypaste and then the rest of the Internet suddenly agrees.

>>80915414
>yeah the first two hours is shit but the last 45 mins is kino!
>yeah the theatrical cut is shit but the directors cut is kino!
>yeah the movie is shit but snyders production designer showed him some pietas to crib imagery from so it's kino!
>honestly, the next one will be kino!

I swear WB doesn't pay you guys enough.

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>>80915693
>he spends his days shitposting a movie he didn't watch to completion
>unironically expects us to take the opinions of ADD-riddled Marvel drones seriously

>>80915724
Fucking truth.

>>80915115
Not a big fan of superhero films either. BVS was the first of the genre I was not only able to sit through (Guardians of the Galaxy, Suicide Squad, Doctor Strange were just so mind-numbingly shallow and boring) but actually enjoy. I rewatched it and thought it was even better the second time. Mind you, I'm talking about the Extended Cut. There is just something about the way the characters are written, so very archetypal, it was finally a comic film not completely devoid of substance.

>>80915724
I'm not the guy you were originally replying to actually. I've seen the theatrical and DC of BvS.

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>>80916097
Christopher Terrio and Snyder both intentionally went out of the superhero safe space and decided to instead venture the genre into the fields of Greek epics and religion. This is partly why BvS feels so different and more geniune than the rest. It is less tainted by the small hint of passive-agressive ironic touch that plagues modern culture. It is uncompromisingly sincere to the point where some reviewers complained that it lacked the light meta tone of Marvels.

But that's the strength of both BvS and also MoS to some extent. They treat their heroes as actual superhero icons in a real world, not as cartoon funny men in costumes that say and do awesome things with no real repercussions.

>>80916224
Yes, exactly. That's what I like about BVS. It really is sincere and does feel like an old legend. Didn't watch MOS yet and am kind of skeptical since BVS lived off the conflicting moralities of its main male and female characters and I can't imagine a film about just Superman being as thought-provoking.

>>80916224
> Greek epics and religion
But it's not what superheroes are about.

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>>80916386
While BvS deals with Superman being a real person in a world "where nothing ever stays good", MoS is more about family and abandoning one home to protect the other. BvS is better but a person who enjoys BvS should probably watch MoS aswell.

There is an incredibly powerful scene near the end of MoS that I feel anyone who likes Superman owes themselves to see.

>>80916453
Different interpretations of different superheroes by different writers and artists are about different things. Read a comic book. Stop these useless generalisations.

>>80916453
Superhero's aren't about one thing. Marvel films are cheesy lame popcorn fun and that's part of what superhero's are. But the DC films are much more serious and grave stories of the implications of power and humanity's nature. Superhero's are sometimes about that too.

>>80916453
Did you read that in the official Marvel script guide? Superheroes can be portrayed in different context; Marvel as cartoon funny men, Snyder as real icons in a real world of scepticism and hatred.

>>80916542
>icons
That's exactly what superheroes are not, lol.

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Only real men should direct superhero movies. Nu-males simply don't get it.

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>>80913121
Weak bait.

>>80913121
This.

>>80916590
>"Fuck you."

>>80916453
But Snyder has elevated the form of the superhero movie to so much more, much like he took the male masturbatory fantasy and evoked Menzies-esque turns by way of deft 'Angels with Filthy Souls' level nesting to dissect what the dividing line between fantasy and reality actually is. It's almost too subtle too notice, with just wisps of clues found in such things as the films intellectually stunning soundtrack choices such as 'Sweet Dreams' providing a piercing torchlight in the multi-faceted fog.

>>80916823
You sound like a faggot, shut the fuck up.

>>80914726
It makes no sense though, in a world without Superman, why would a kid put a towel around his shoulders like a cape?

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>>80915276
are they bogpilled?

>>80916970
Look just fuck off ok marlel

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>>80916970
Because even worlds with superheroes have comic books.

>>80913121
BVS was the best hero movie ever made but MoS was terrible.

>People shit on MoS
>People shit on BvS
>People shit on SS
>The same people are all posting fake reaction videos where they're crying tears of joy at the Justice League trailer
>They'll end up shitting on JL by November

>>80918271
people shit of ss because FUCKING SUCKS

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>>80918271
not all

Ever notice how Marvelbulls don't need to try and justify liking their movies?

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>If you hate this, you're a Marvel shill
Nah bro, I'm a Rebirth shill

Fuck you

>>80919713
/ourjew/

>>80919969
They really can't formulate the why the same way a person addicted to McDonald's can't formulate why. It's addicting and your brain is telling you it's FUN FUN FUN as purposely engineered by careful focus-testing but when you actually try to think about the why, you'll come up short and realize that the justification boils down to how any junkie would justify his addiction to.

>>80919969
Ever notice how the marlels are always spamming the catalog trying to shit on DC all while pretending they're independent from Marvel because they realize DC vs Marvel and DC wins to anyone above 10. They have been put in place so many times when the comparison comes up that they now pretend they don't like Marvel "but atleast they're fuuuun".

>>80913121
can you please stop
you only watching superhero films? nothing more to talk about?

>>80914726
What is the Marvel equivalent of this scene?

>>80914899
got any more of these?

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I like this meme. justice leage will ensure that we will have nice marvel v dc shitposting for at least another year daily

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>>80920139
Marvel isn't even relevant anymore. When the Marvel shills don't even dare say they like Marvel, it shows who's winning.

They go on reddit and twitter and upvote each other endlessly but on /tv/ where such tactics are invalid, they come up short.

>>80919989
no you are not

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>>80920150
cheers

>>80914726
Man Of Steel is a legitimately good superhero movie, BvS was decent, after Batman and Superman fight it goes to shit.

Not into capeshit, but have kids, so subjected to capeshit.

Marvel: ITS SHINY, LOOK AND EXPLOSION

DC: It's cinematic, has great balance and actually tells you a story

From the outside looking in, the DC universe doesn't lower the tone to get more people in seats, it gives a fuck about source material and tells an actual story, where as Marvel seems to just Michael Bay the fuck out of everything.

>>80916493
>There is an incredibly powerful scene near the end of MoS that I feel anyone who likes Superman owes themselves to see.

This.

It's the end credits.

>>80920312
upvoted! You tell them fellow Marvel warrior

>>80920309
> it gives a fuck about source material
That explains Lex

>>80916493
>There is an incredibly powerful scene near the end of MoS that I feel anyone who likes Superman owes themselves to see.

The John Kent flashback at the end? Or Clark destroying the World Engine?

>>80920424

I never said or even implied it was entirely faithful to the source, I said it gave a fuck.

Also, given the new 52, silver age, miller and all the other sources used, you telling me you dont think theres a lex out there like that?

Lex wasn't always a buff guy, he got that way due to his jealousy of supes.

'Feel that kent, real muscle, not the fluke of some alien genetics, but from hard work and effort'

>>80920455
Clark destroying the World Engine and how it mirrors Perry White extending a helping hand to his coworker. The strength and cause of Superman revealed.

>>80920491
Yeah the music and kinetics there are incredible. Snyder's a fantastic, cinematic director.

>>80920242
They've done one of the worst Superman incarnations I've ever seen

>>80920309
>it gives a fuck about source material and tells an actual story
the fuck it does. They need to get someone who actually knows about comics on their team.

>>80913121
>without a signle bad film
I agree, the have some flaws and I might not agree with the direction some characters and situations went, but they're good movies.

T. Techinically a marveldrone here

>>80920562
You're not a Marvel drone. Marvel fans aren't Marvel drones. The drones are those that lurk DC threads 24/7 just for them write DC-Cucks! and then hide behind the shield of anonymity when being called out. Most Marvel fans are alright.

>>80913121
MoS was decent compared to BvS.

I hope Justice league will return some life to DC.

>>80920187
Good argument, pal

>>80920601
Ok, then just a Marvel fan

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is it, dare i say, pure numale popnerd redditkino?

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I'm mostly in it for the sweet sweet A E S T H E T I C

>>80920463
never read Superman, but even I know that the muscles aren't the case here, the haircut though.
Who thought that getting his head shaved in prison is so much better than kryptonite poisoning.

>>80920655
>MCUck unironically scours Youtube videos like this to appear cool on an anime imageboard site
Sad!

>>80920655
Did he strat crying because he thinks it looks bad?

>when you can't tell how much of this thread is ironic and how much is sincere
>when the only cape shit you've enjoyed really has been dark knight, the first two captain Americas and Logan

I guess I just don't get it really.

>>80920562
There is a difference between being a drone and a fan anon. I personally like both marvel and dc for different reasons, those are fans. Drones seem to want "brand loyalty" and say any other brand is automatically bad because it's not "their brand". It just so happens you see more drones with marvel than dc.

>>80920663
This is amazing. Time has been kind on MoS.

>>80920677

He only just got kryptonite in BvS, it doesn't poison that fast.

>>80913121
I will be greatest CAPEKINO in human history. Marvelet btfo

>>80920615
>MoS was decent compared to BvS.
Switch those movies.

>>80920709
not the point.
it just wasn't Lex Luthor.
and don't start all that multiverse bulshit, that's just my opinion.

>>80915553
This desu. People who complain about that scene do not understand Batman's character

>>80920760
I guess we have different tastes in movies then or I just had too high expectations for BvS. Everything sucked, hairy Luther, 'Martha is my mom's name too' moment and fuckton of other tiny shit that in the end made this movie mediocre at best for me.

Somebody please describe Superman's arc to me. I know the snydrr movies are filled with Jesus imagery and references to Excalibur and all that shit but my biggest problem with tgem is that Superman just stands around looking concerned saying nothing most. I've read some of these screengrabs explaining the movie as well and I just don't see how the person being described there is the Superman on screen. He's so busy looking concerned that he doesn't have any time to show how he "struggles" being a superhero. Also I don't see why he's pissed at Batman when he killed so many people in MoS and he clearly killed that terrorist guy at the beginning of BvS because muh GF (and don't get me started on how forced that romance is, it actually manages to feel more pointless than a lot of the romances in marvel movies)

>>80920663
Is there a justice league version of this

>>80920919
>when he killed so many people in MoS
Marvel drones are literally still clinging on this old tired nonsense that has been debunked by anyone who has actually seen MoS.

What tiresome bullshit.

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>>80920463
If Eisenberg gets ripped during his incarceration, I will legitimately lose my shit.

Just pumping iron and preaching the Dark Gospel.

>>80920928
I'll make a proper one when it comes out
Have to make one of BvS

>>80920919
The Snyderverse Superman is terrible. That's why he made no sense

>>80920981
>>80920928
Has anyone noticed the deliberate Blue/Orange palette?

Most of the trailer was also set in the dark, I wonder if when Superman is resurrected, the scenes will become much brighter (In the trailer there's a shot of the heroes looking with a very orange background, perhaps they are looking at the rebirth of Superman)

>>80921049
>t. retard

https://youtu.be/FXpiRzumrVY

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>>80920687
Look at his hoodie and glasses. That's a black numale which means he loves it

>>80921074
I don't really have an issue with his blue/orange decision (it's been used for decades and decades) as long as his dramatic lighting and framing is still good.

>>80921023
I doubt he will stick with the character for long.

Justice League will end this epic trilogy on a high note. It will be the greatest and most important trilogy of the millenia its greatness will echo throughout history even after we are long gone.

>>80920663
HDMI black level : low

>>80921109
>I don't really have an issue with his blue/orange decision
I wasn't saying it was a bad thing, just something I noticed.

>>80921075
>I have no standards

>>80913121
I would say MoS and BvS are in the top 3, possibly the top 2 in the genre.

JS seems like it will be more faithful to the source material- and I mean this in the most negative connotation possible. JS trailer feels like they listened to fanboys "criticism" of MoS and BVS. BUt le'ts see if snyder can make something great out of it as well

Last marvel movie I saw was guardians of the galaxy. It was ok, I was entertained, but it was quipy and forgettable. I didn't see MoS, but BvS kept being on tv and I ended up watching it. I found it very interesting, and not just because of the Amy Adams bathtub scene, though I do love me some Amy Adams. The Wonder Woman subplot and especially her finding the files on everyone was eye rollingly bad, as was the final fight scene. I did kind of enjoy batman, I thought he was the strongest and well acted character of the movie.
I should watch civil war just because I haven't, but at this point with all superhero movies I'm like, "why? Why bother?"

>>80915553
Thank you. I've noticed a lot of criticism stems from people who literally just don't understand things.

>>80921200
Why did you add the meme arrow?

>>80920981

its so sad these movies look great, but its all style over substance. There is nothing underneath the surface.

>>80920919
One of the central themes of BvS is obsession.

Bruce obsesses over vengeance.
Clark obsesses over guilt.
Lex obsesses over power.

Another interesting bit is how big a role lies play in the story. Bruce chases a lie, lies to Alfred, lies to himself about his own motivations. Clark lies to Lois("I don't care what they're saying," and is later shown watching a news story about himself), and Alex lies to everyone *except*, quite possibly, to himself.

Clark feels responsible for his role in all the death during the Kryptonian invasion. It's made him reluctant to embrace a more public face and instead just remain a sort of reactionary "super first-responder." He doesn't do hearings or public meet-and-greets for fear of having to face the consequences of his past actions and even *inactions*. He's terrified of facing the public because he fears they blame him as much as he blames himself. His silence is born of guilt.

>>80915553
Is this not supposed to conflict with the fact that he then goes and murders more people?

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>>80921469
There is plenty of substance in BvS, moreso than in any other superhero film of this decade.

>>80921485
https://youtu.be/ALHJI0Zqweo
https://youtu.be/FXpiRzumrVY

>>80921618
>let me just ignore all you said so I can post this nonsensical video about some butthurt Marvel drone for the 150th time

>>80921560
>That sneaky bible passage.

How could people ever doubt Snyder?

>>80913121
Aren't Nolan's Dark Knight movies a trilogy?

>>80921485
Clark's mountaintop reflections after the bombing reveal a memory of his father, who had already explained to him that it's impossible to see every outcome. The best you can do is make your choices and face their consequences.

At the conclusion, Clark makes his choice, taking up the spear and facing down the living embodiment of his guilt and past actions as realized in the form of Doomsday, the "ghost" of Zod.

>>80921560
Related.
>>80919785
>>80919886

>>80914484
>Only the posters are kino as fuck

FTFY

>>80913121
>If Justice League lives up to Bvs and MoS, then Snyder will be the first director to have done a superhero trilogy without a single good film.

FTFY

>>80914425
>That is absolute truth. The man knows his shit.

Which explains why he's consistently produced it throughout his entire career. Truly, this is a man who knows shit inside and out.

>>80913121
but Nolan already did.
>inb4 but TDKR
it's ok, not bad.

>>80921560
jesus fuck

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>>80915276
ftfy

>>80920312
Haha! Should have had a dance off, amirite?

>>80921827
this triggers the capeshitter

>>80921805
Imagine being this much of a butthurt marlel

>>80920655

What the shit is wrong with those people?

>>80921682
>t. Someone who didn't watch the videos

I've read through more pointless multipost screengrabs explaining Snyder's messes than I can count. I guess DCucks are allowed to post long-winded explanation images of their masterpiece but if anybody disagrees with them they don't get to cite any outside sources

>>80921933
>Let me just oust myself as the massive Marvel drone I am by using marvel shill terms to make a point
Nice job

>>80921969
>I have a vocabulary larger than the words "shill" and "drone"

Forgive me for having an education

>>80915553
I really don't understand how people thought bruce changes his mind just because their moms have the same name

maybe they needed batman having a monologue explaining how he realized how deranged he has become

most of the criticism to mos\bvs comes from actual retards, autists, nerds

one flaw (retroactive) bvs has is superman resurrecting- makes the sacrifice too pointless

>>80922003
I doubt you do considering you're so much of an illiterate you can't even type and write your own arguments without resorting to the same tired Marvel drone videos you've been spamming here for years. All while clumsily ignoring every argument laid forth to his face.

>>80919989
Lol rebirth sucks. Get better taste in movies and comics

>>80920309
True

>>80921933
Well why don't you think for yourself and actually refute anything I said, or is your brain just hard-wired to Boobtube at this point?

It must be awesome to be so complacent you're willing to let others do all your thinking.

>>80915693
the movie up to and including the batman v superman fight is pure kino, the rest is average\good for a comic book movie

the theatrical cut is superior. The details from the directors cut are not really needed and slow the movie down.

the movie is great

the next one might be standard fare capeshit I'm afraid.

>>80922030
You know something that hit me the other day? The real answer to why Bruce machined a Kryptonian spear instead of a bullet:

He didn't want to.

His dream was overflowing with unconscious hints that he's aware that Clark is on "the side of the angels," as it were, and that he was letting his obsessions consume him.

A bullet would have made it too easy. He literally forced himself to look the man in the face as killed him, and in true Batman form, he balked when it came to cold-blooded murder.

I'm actually starting to doubt whether Clark really said "Martha" and that's just what Bruce chose to hear.

When he's having his meltdown, Clark doesn't just look scared, he looks confused.

>>80920562
You don't sound like a drone though, or maybe it is because I agree with you

Man of steel sucked

>>80921618
>numale youtube videos
woah is this the power of marlel shilling?

>>80922069
Hi Zack

>>80915115
>it was boring

You should watch dr strange, it has really cool graphics and sounds and it really funny too XD

>>80922034
Alright if you're too afraid to watch these videos I understand, it can hurt when your worldview based on a movie comes crashing down. I'll paraphrase my argument for you then since the videos contain a lot more than what I was specifically talking about.

Basically you're pasting all of these emotions on to Superman when the way he's actually written doesn't convey what you said at all.
>He doesn't do hearings or public meet and greets
Except he literally goes to the first hearing they call. How does that make him reluctant to face the public again?

Also I originally asked for Superman's arc and nobody actually answered my question. Superman is guilty, yet still saves people, throughout the entire movie. I get it. Nothing changes about him from the start of the movie though. Hell he "disappears" after Congress blows up, yet conveniently nothing bad happens to the public before he "returns". So we essentially get that mountaintop dialogue with his dad for no good reason since Clark doesn't actually change as a character because of it. It looks deep, and the pointless Bible and Excalibur imagery certainly helps it look deeper than it actually is, but that's all covering up characters who stop making sense the moment you start to think about. Don't even get started on lex

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>>80922417
i'll fight you irl

>>80919917
he's right.

only intelligent people above a certain iq can appreciate this film

>>80922479
Clark was lost after the explosion during the hearing. He goes to the mountains to calmly collect himself and come to his senses again. And he does so by reminiscing an older conversation with his late father. This scene also strikes an important difference between Clark to Lex/Bruce whose lack of proper father figures have lead them down paths of darkness. If Clark didn't have his father figure to rely on, him being able to cope with these tragedies would've been doubtful.

Also you are typing in a near-incoherent way and you are incredibly mad for no reason at all. And the one argument you put forth has now been debunked.

>marvlels this scared

Why? The reaction to the GotG trailers has been negative or indifference while the JL's was massive, but that doesn't mean anything. Just buy reviews again and be done with it brahs

>>80914455
100% accurate

>>80913121
Never seen a non meme post on /tv/ before. Complete truth.

>>80922588
Yeah I don't get why they're this mad when every blogger who is on RT is in Disney's pockets. I guess if they spent a fraction of the energy thinking about Marvel as they're thinking about BvS, they wouldn't really be able to call themselves Marvel fans.

>>80922650
They'd have to remember Marvel movies first.

When was the last time anybody made a thread about Incredible Hulk? Or Ant-Man? Or Age of Ultron? Or Thor 2? Or the first GotG? Or Doctor Strange? Or Iron Man 2?

Marvel movies are so dispensable. As soon as they're out of the theater, it's like they never released at all.

Meanwhile we're still talking about Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman. Man of Steel was a 2013 movie and on any given day, people will still discuss it.

>>80922479
>Except he literally goes to the first hearing they call.

No, he didn't. You think it took two years to attend a hearing after the events in Metropolis? You notice the room full of people at the witness's testimony? That's a public hearing.

Lois calls him out at the beginning of the movie over the fact he's not appearing at the hearings. That's when he says he doesn't care what they're saying.

>Clark doesn't actually change as a character because of it

He was considering giving up the whole Superman thing. He comes back resolved to continue his campaign. He then symbolically faces his guilt. Next time around, he'll do so publicly. He'll have to.

It's an arc.

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>>80915447
How about the bit where superman's parents, essentially modern day Jesus' moral compass, told him "Nah don't worry about it dude, let those kids die despite easily being able to stop it"
If ma and pa Kent weren't the salt of the Earth then superman wouldn't be superman, he'd be an asshole with infinite power who looked out for himself.
And even supposing that they did raise him right, why did pa Kent do a 180 on his morals in that single moment?
Also at a base level superman is overpowered an uninteresting, but that's not really the movie's fault.

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>/tv/ is now turning around to support DC
all it took was two quips form snyder.

>>80923084
/tv/ when not being raided by overly vocal Marvel shills have always been in favor of DC.

BvS even won film of the year on /tv/. Civil War wasn't even relevant.

>>80923049
>How about the bit where superman's parents, essentially modern day Jesus' moral compass, told him "Nah don't worry about it dude, let those kids die despite easily being able to stop it"

Here's how little attention you paid to that scene:

"Maybe," got Clark's attention, then his dad showed him why that *might* be the case - his alien heritage, the revelation of which was a bell that could not be unrung.

Furthermore, he didn't need to push the bus out of the river in the first place. The driver did his job and made sure the door was open before it even hit the water. All Clark needed to do was shepherd the other kids to safety, but he panicked and did too much, which ended up getting seen as a miracle, all of which is in perfect keeping with Superman's character and a near-perfect foreshadowing of the way things are going between him and the world in BvS.

The world's panicking, he's panicking, he's overachieving and his actions are increasingly being seen as those of a god.

You're welcome.

>>80923171
>BvS even won film of the year on /tv/.
please tell me you aren't referring to that retarded thread one guy kept making every day.

Unless the post about some award is stickied by the mods, it doesn't count.

>>80923259
>All Clark needed to do was shepherd the other kids to safety,
How could he have done that? the bus was drowning, he had to push it up.

not the guy you're replying to.

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>first two minutes

>>80923269
>600 voters
>that decisive BvS victory
>Civil War not even relevant

http://www.strawpoll.me/11824427/r

It is fact that Marvel shills are a whiny vocal minority that will not stop samefagging endlessly to damage control their trainwreck of film franchises.

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>>80923259
Ohhhhh, so superman's a retard who didn't think of any of the possible repercussions?
Despite having supposed super intellect?
Yeah, that makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up dude.

>>80923171
>BvS even won film of the year on /tv/
>On /tv/

>>80923387
Yes, that's the board we're on. It's not /r/Films or tumblr.

>>80923171
nope.
/tv/ started liking it when they found out normies hated it.

>>80923421
Wait, you don't actually take /tv/ seriously when it comes to movies right?

>>80923421
I think he's more referring to the fact that it's like winning the special olympics and not really an achievement.
But hell, you can slap any 4chan board in it's place and that shit still applies.

Man of Steel is a actual good FILM and any faggots that say otherwise are fucking stupid

Also GO FUCK YOURSELF OP the last thing /tv/ needs is shit threads like this you fucking dumb dingus I hate you so much

>>80923345
This is the definitive poll. Nice find. Marvel shills are so pathetic.

>>80923471
>all the arguments in favor of BvS doesn't matter because I said so, you are just being contrarian
What a sad being you are. If you can't cope with /tv/, don't come here. For any person who is invested enough in film to browse an imageboard for films, it is natural to prefer BvS over Marvel's horseshit.

>>80923506
Why are you so mad?

>>80923536


BvS is quite literally the worst movie experience I ever had. A pretentious self indugent flick that thinks too high of itself while poorly adapting several comic books for children in a excuse of script where the main dilemma is throwed away as soon as the big bad guy showed up

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>>80923421
>It's not /r/Films
are you sure

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>>80923509
>Marvel shills are so pathetic
>Uses a poll on /tv/ to try and legitimatize the quality of a movie

Top fucking kek the irony is too much

>>80923568

I motherfucking had it with we pretending BvS is a good movie. Its been year already

>m-muh poll is completely ironic guise!!

how about no

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>>80923618
stopped reading at the first sentence

There is too much butthurt

I can't take it all in

It's so wonderful

>>80923655
Yeah, none of them are good faggot.
Welcome to the reality outside of /tv/

>>80914455
>implying they aren't all capeshit trash

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>>80923705
>I can't think of a retort so I'll just pretend to ignore it
Keep up the good work bud

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D-damn Cyclops looks badass, r-r-right guys?

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>>80920677
Kryptonite poisoning?
I thought he lost his hair because of pic related.

>>80923705

Nice webm almost makes your post worthwhile

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>>80923789
Literally leaking butthurt from all over the place

When was the last time a Marvel thread had a 200+ posts?

>marvel shills getting BTFO
>the trailer still massive
Good

>>80923800
Jesus, that nigga walked straight out of transformers 2

>>80923800
>bait thread didn't get any replies
>I know, I'll spam it in other threads aswell
Marlels are sad beings.

>>80920981
Is there a grid for any Marvel movies? I would legitimately enjoy seeing what "memorable", "beautiful", or "powerful" imagery the Marlels could possibly fill an entire 3x3 grid with.

>>80923831

This is literally a Marvel thread because all we're doing so far is talking about Marvel

>>80923831
>game of thrones
>capeshit
>videogames
holy shit
I thought these dudes were supposed to be chads

>>80923800
>dat stutterposting
Trying too hard shill

>>80923575

>>80923575

>>80923575

>>80923575

>>80923378
No, he's a fucking thirteen-year old, or is your thirteen-year old ass just perfect in wisdom like Jesus was supposed to be?

And there it is - yet more proof that Superman isn't Jesus and isn't intended to be seen as such by the audience.

That one's for free.

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>>80923887
The Marvel fanbase is nonexistant. It seems they are more focused on desperately badmouthing DC than actually paying attention to their own films. But that's not a big surprise really when you consider the state of the MCU.

>>80923831
Different guy than the one you ignored dude, I just hang out because autist rage makes my dick hard.
Also half the people in here are shitting all over the movie so does it really matter how many people are screaming?

>>80923960
A whiny vocal minority of mentally insane Marvel shills, as proven by>>80923345
Sad creatures.

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>>80923953
The movie where he dies came out on fucking easter dude.
You don't seriously believe he isn't supposed to just be Jesus right?

>>80923316
By herding them to the open door and swimming to safety while he carries the unconscious Ross kid.

These are farm kids. There's no way in hell they don't know how to swim.

>>80924018
Aight dude.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion in this extremely subjective matter.

>>80924046
I guess you missed these:

>>80919785
>>80919886

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>>80923957
Wouldn't everyone be happier if people just liked what they liked in peace? What is it that fuels these Marvel fanatics in taking this rivalry to pathological levels of butthurt? When Iron Man and The Dark Knight were showing, this wasn't a thing. It started just a few years back a few months prior to BvS opening. It was like a whole cult was formed just to badmouth films.

>>80924214
It started when Disney took over the franchise. Make if that what you will.

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>>80924214
>When Iron Man and The Dark Knight were showing, this wasn't a thing
Yes it was, /v/editor. It was even happening when TDKR and Avengers were coming out you complete fucking newshit

>>80924274
No it wasn't you fucking newfag. Been here since 2006. This obsession Marvel fanatics have with badmouthing the competition started just a few years back. Both The Dark Knight and Iron Man co-existed just fine on /tv/.

>>80924214

Fucking newfag

>>80924309
You definitely haven't as the whole fucking thing led to the brief period in 2012 to 2013 where everyone became a "pretentious hipster" just so capeshit spam would stop and go back to /co/.

>>80924315
Kill yourself newfag and take your corporate warfare back to /v/. We're trying to discuss film here and you come in and shove your Marvel cult-like behavior in here.

>>80924372
>2013 same as 2008
Look at this fucking newfag.

>>80924402
No look at this fucking newshit >>80924214
>>When Iron Man and The Dark Knight were showing, this wasn't a thing
Look at how he also ignored >>80924274
>It was even happening when TDKR and Avengers
He wasn't here in 2012 so what makes you think he(you) were here in 2008 when everyone was spamming the armond white reviews and box office scores?

>>80922796
discuss how bad it was

>>80924374

Shut the FUCK up my dude. Tell me ONE good thing about BvS, just fucking ONE

fucking newfag

>>80924114
>By herding them to the open door and swimming to safety while he carries the unconscious Ross kid.
>These are farm kids. There's no way in hell they don't know how to swim.

It is clear that all of them panicked and almost no one had any breath left to swim, let alone follow someone. There was no way superman was "unnecessary" in that situation.

That was a situation that needed clark's intervention, and which set the tone for his disillusionment with his powers and their role in society, an dhence his own.

>>80914455
200% accurate
even if its half wrong its still true

>>80924770
>just fucking ONE
The amazing visuals.

The god-tier story.

>>80924846

>blurry dark shit and a bunch of poorly adapted comic book archs

So sorry man had no idea you were fucking stupid

>>80924309
>Both The Dark Knight and Iron Man co-existed just fine on /tv/.

True, but that stopped with Iron Man 2. Remember Obama's Republic of Hitlerstan? By 2009 we were deep in the trenches with battle lines drawn. By 2010 the DC hate train was rolling with every new Green Lantern reveal.

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>>80924898
>blurry dark shit

t. retard

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CAN YOU GUYS JUST FUCKING STOP
IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT JUST SAY YOU DON'T LIKE IT AND BEGONE. BUT NO! YOU ALL HAVE TO COME EVERY DAY TO BAIT AND PRETEND TO TAKE THE BAIT. FUCK ALL OF YOU

>>80924770
Not him, but here's several:

The OST
The cinematography
The treatment of the source material
The world-building
The fight scenes
The Battfleck
The best damn Superman that has ever been on screen

All respect to Christopher Reeve. I love the man and I miss him, but next to Cavill, his Superman looks like bad cosplay.

>>80924905

ITS NOT TRUE FUCKING NEWFAG

Remember to report those that post solely to shitpost and lower the quality of the thread with poor baits and badly typed sentences.

>Rule 6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

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>>80924898

>>80923800
Niggatron looks like that?

>>80924964
>>80924957
See
>>80924995
We need to put a proper end to all these poor baits meant solely to derail the thread.

>>80924957

Did you just tried to prove me wrong by posting a bunch of blurry dark shots and a bunch of regular ones?

God damn it man go fuck yourself

>>80924898
>poorly adapted comic book archs
lmao

which ones?

>>80924482
>no response but replying to the thread still
That's what I thought you fucking /v/eddit meme hustler

>>80925029
Someone really took a massive dump in this Marvel Poo's cereals.

>>80925030

The Dark Knight Returns and Death of Superman for starters

>>80925057

Nice argument retard

>>80924905
>By 2010 the DC hate train was rolling with every new Green Lantern reveal.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/

Go figure.

>>80925129
Why are they so cancerous? They even ruined Star Wars. When they gain complete monopoly of Hollywood, then the medium dies.

>>80925095
wrong and wrong.

>>80925057
Why can't you follow your own rules you want to set, outsider? >>80925023

>>80924995

Maybe you should start doing that yourself my dude

>>80925182

Nice argument faggot bet it required the two neurons you have

>>80925187
Fight fire with fire. Don't care if I get banned aswell, seeing these sad Marvel fanatics derail every thread is getting very tiresome.

SHUT UP

ALL TEN OF YOU

GET THE FUCK OUT

>>>/co/

>>80925264

>youre not allowed to discuss films on television and film

>>80924214
Because DC didn't have a cinematic universe back then. Marvelfags didn't feel like they had to waste the effort to shit on movies that they knew couldn't compete with their own. But now that DC has an expanding franchise and cultural brand of their own, Marvel is scared. They're literally flooding the internet with shitstorms of fury and bad press directed at DC because they can't stand the thought of their longtime rival doing exactly what they did, but better.

>>80925238

>fire with fire

What good would that do you fucking imbecile? That would just spread the fucking fire

For FUCK sakes

>>80925039
>he is still replying to the thread
>he still won't answer
Why do people who pretend to have been here for years just vanish all of the sudden when they're confronted by real /tv/ locals?

>>80925341
>>80925187

This shit is sad bc every thread about DC attracts retards that scream ITS SHIT without even proper argument.

>>80925433
Look at the first 150 posts. They tried, and then the DC posters absolutely destroyed them through well-put arguments. And now all they can do now is bait and shitpost and exploit /tv/'s lack of moderation. The discussion is over. This is just them throwing shit at the wall hoping something sticks.

>>80925433

Nice argument

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>w-why didn't you save me, /tv/?

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>>80925433
I don't need an argument though. My cineIQ is much higher than yours

I mean do you really think someone like you would be able to understand picture related even when its not subtle at all? Of course not.

>>80925635

Its very easy to understand that its shit

>>80925635
>I am BETTER than you
The fucking irony...

>>80913121

>kids IRL wear capes when playing because they're pretending to be Superman

So then why did Clark wear a cape when playing in MoS? Superman didn't exist yet for him to mimic because he would become Superman later in life.

>>80925635
Just having different taste is not proof-positive that yours is objectively superior. You know that, right? I'm sure it serves as a nice moat for your ivory tower, but that, much like your taste, lies entirely within your own head.

I recognize you, by the way. I tried to make my way over to 8/film, but once I got there, I wasn't able to navigate, and neither you nor anyone else was all that forthcoming with helpful hints on rectifying the problem.

>>80925858
>>80917517

>>80914852
>>80914484
Where can somebody buy this?

>>80916728
made me spit out my nose. thank you

>>80925901
They are really sad creatures. I hope the Marvel pay is good.

On different note, I wonder if they realize fanning the flames of corporate warfare will do anything but put them at a huge disadvantage? Maybe they underestimated just how much Civil War would suck in comparison to BvS but they sure are willing to throw a lot of punches when the punches coming back at you are so much faster and stronger.

>>80925858
>superman invented capes and no other person or character wore a cape before him

>>80913121

Are you dense?

>>80916970
Are you serious. That's what you get from that scene? An autistic observance about capes. Capes have been worn by non superheros you know. Sometimes I really think that autism is what prevents people from liking this movie.

>>80914726
>tfw I saw it in theatres twice, and both times were basically empty except for me and my bro.

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>>80913121
What's it like knowing none of these movies could even surpass this masturbatory love letter to Donner?

>>80926364
Given that it's not a thing I feel, I'll never know.

It was a serviceable coda. Nothing more.

>>80926145

Civil War had more sucess in every single aspect than bvs

>>80926461
Name one thing Civil War did better than BvS. Go ahead, I'll wait.

>>80926503

Everything but cinematography

>>80926461
>Civil War had more sucess in every single aspect than bvs
if you're a popcorn flicker, sure.

>>80922111
Agree, the last fight with the generic Troll could have been much better, but it ended nicely with Superman's funeral

>>80926588

The only place people say bvs is good is here and in reddit

>>80926559
If you honestly think there is a single fight scene in CW that is superior to the warehouse scene in BvS, you are completely out of your mind.

>>80926503
Zemo was a better villain than Lex or Doomsday.

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What is the Civil War equivalent of

>They were hunters

>>80915246
Cool story bro

>>80926637
So most of the online community. Gotcha.

>>80913121
justice league is compromised
everyone bitched about bvs
he was forced to change his ways

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>>80924998
>tfw an office scene is shot better than marvel

>>80926713
I'm not so sure about that.

Even before BvS was released, Terrio said in an interview that Justice League would be lighter than BvS. He considers BvS the EBS of this trilogy, which naturally means it's the darkest point of the story.

We'll see how Justice League ends up but so long as Terrio and Snyder are allowed to follow their visions, I'm not worried.

>>80926637
>and in reddit
completely wrong.

reddit has a hateboner for DC.

>>80926693

No? The same 50 people that shitpost about bvs being good here are the same 50 people shitposting about bvs being good there.

And by 50 Im being generous pretty sure in this one is the same sorry and lonely guy shitposting

>>80926713
thissss

>>80926900

The only way you could know that is by going to reddit and we do not want your kind here

>>80926777
He'll still be able to do good work, he might clash with the studio, but we know that he's not just a cheap director hired so that the studio can control him. The theatrical cut of BvS was the better one too.

>>80926945
How did you know it then?

;^)

>>80914455
Why didnt Batman suit up when Zod made the threat to destroy earth in 24 hrs if Kal didnt reveal himself?

>>80926910
All you're revealing is that you traffic both sites. I can count on one hand the times I've been to reddit.

MoS is Snyder's only good movie and that was all due to Nolan's vision

>>80927413

Well how does it feels to have a hand with so many fingers?

>>80913153
First post in a dc thread, first mention of marvel

>>80927320
Stop pointing plotholes !

>>80927453
And you're half black and most of it was due to your dad's betaness

>>80927829
not a fucking plothole.

>>80927876
So whats the rationale

>>80927840
Jeeze. That was incredibly lame.

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>>80920111
It's not an original concept

>>80927642
Go find my posts, then. I shouldn't be hard to spot. My spelling, punctuation, and grammar are consistent and my opinions don't waiver.

I've never used a trip code because it's generally frowned on to assume an identity, and it's that very aspect of Reddit that my long years here have predisposed me to find so distasteful.

Hey guys OP here.

I just wanted to say you people are a bunch of stupid fucks. I mean it. Fucking look at my original post, fucking look at my posts after that, it was so clear I was baiting and shitposting, yet you people didnt let the thread just die.

Anyway I did it because I was bored at work now I'm going home, just wanted to say I expected more of you all

>>80928062

Found one. Its the one saying "I'm a huge faggot and I like big dicks in my mouth and anus"

>>80927973
he's rich

>>80928145
Look at it, boys. There's the level of intellect we're dealing with here.

Look at it and fucking laugh.

>>80914852
saved. thanks meng

>>80915447
Johnatan Kent "sacrifice" in the tornado storm. But you'll justify it by explaining the "symbolism" as if dying of cardiac arrest couldn't show the limits of superman powers

OP here, this one is an impostor. >>80928077

I was dead serious

>>80928269
>>80928077
Actual OP here, I'm completely ernest in my OP.

>>80928224

No one here belong to your "boys" kiddo, if you want a community or a sense of it I suggest you go back

>>80927320
Because prep time is a two-word phrase. To prepare, he requires time. When your whole career has been dealing with street-level crime, it takes some time to up your game to Kryptonian levels.

By my estimate, somewhere in the neighborhood of two years.

>>80913121
You're fucking delusional and I'm so goddamn tired of these low effort troll threads

>>80928379
Yeah.

It was all me, James.

You really don't know when to quit.

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>>80920562
we are breaking the conditioning

>>80928581
So is he delusional or trolling, faggot? Are you so lost in cognitive dissonance that your brain's just going the spaghetti route now?

>>80920957
What about the fact he killed the african warlord ? Do you think breaking a wall of brick with a human body is not mortal ?

>>80928077
Please report this shitposter for impersonating OP.

>>80929063
He didn't. The first thing through the wall was Clark's fist, head, and shoulders, dragging the warlord along behind him.

Also, Kryptonian aura, bitch, but I'm tired of explaining that to shills, normies, and complete dumbasses.

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One year later BvS is still the shitposting's muse.

>>80928581
Not a single arguments there pal. Resistance is futile.

>>80923345
>>80923421
Because the film had been shat on by many critics that you had to make a poll on 4chan where most of the retards having a hard on over snyder are to have one statistic showing what you wanted.