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Buenos Aires was a false flag.

>>80904966
All the shitty squeals that followed.

>>80905096
Them squeals... my god them squeals.

worst busey

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>not posting best grill

>>80904966

Her forehead.

Truly execrable "acting".

>>80904966

she aged badly

I read the book after all you faggots recommended it.

IT WAS BORING

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>>80905346

It ripped off Halo

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>>80905389
>It ripped off Halo

>>80904966
It's in my top 3 movies, the only flaw I can think of is Denise Richards' acting, especially when and after she gets impaled by the bug.

>>80905371
The book is basically 70% of them talking in a fucking classroom, did you get trolled into thinking it was anything else than that?

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>tfw Rico was originally a shitty Filipino
disgust. glad they made him a white Argie.

>>80904966
I literally just finished watching it for the first time. I thought it was a fun sci-fi action movie. What is all this discussion about fascism and satire?

>>80905635

People mistake Heinlein's views as being pro-fascist when he isn't. Because of that the movie is a satire of those supposed views.

>>80905635
people thought the movie was promoting fascism.
retarded I know.

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>>80905294
>best girl
denise richards was 11/10

>>80905570
I thought it would be something like 40-50%. Even the drops and combat were made monotonous by the military lingo. I'd be fine with all the classroom stuff if it was more than just basic meritocratic tenants. Who tf enjoys this kind of book?!

>>80904966
bugs == people
What was Doogie but a brain bug? In the book he even guided them telepathically, just like a brain bug.

>>80905872
>monotonous
Not that guy but that's what I felt too, the opening chapter was like a stream-of-consciousness wanking over his weapons and technology, I don't know if it was shit sci-fi or references to real military things for jarheads but it didn't grip me and I put it down.

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>>80904966
>ywn impregnate Denise Richards

just end my life already, lord

>>80905856
>Rico registered as KIA
>comes back to life days later

Rico is literally Jesus.

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This man is practically immortal. He keeps getting better looking.

this movie is pure fucking kino, unappreciated in its time by retarded critics and plebs alike.

>>80906014
Good man. I finished it out of spite, hoping there would be some kind of payoff. Needless to say, there was not.

>>80906103
He pays for it with large chunks of karma ripped from the dead flesh of his career.

>>80906128

>Rico's dad in the movie
Liberal whiny pussy who is against the military and dies in a fire

>Rico's dad in the book
Enlists in the military and later serves under his son

Book is better.

>>80905294

>You will never suck on Dizzy's bushy pussy

>>80906158

He totally got monkeypawed

>I wish to look good forever
>Done, but now you will only star in terrible C-List movies

>>80906062
Kek. This. Prime Denise Richards is on the level of a Michelangelo sculpture.

>>80906199
I don't disagree. I wasn't a fan of the movie either.

>>80904966
Busey Jr is literally incapable of being in a good movie

>>80906226
It was probably the same witch doctor who conned the other protagonists in the cast.

>>80904966
It pretends women can be vaguely competent in combat positions.

>>80905760
... But why?

>>80906613
Identity (2003) was good. Contact (1996) was good.

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>>80904966
It's the only blu-ray I own that won't load.

The moon is a harsh mistress adaptation when?

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>>80906719
Brianna Wu directing.

>>80904966
feel like if verhoeven wanted to do the "this movie is in-universe propaganda" then he should have actually gone all the way: shoot it hand-held, helmet cams, etc, Cloverfield style. but it was made a couple decades before good, small HD cameras existed

if you want to do something like that, then the in-universe stuff has to show that the facist government is Bad And Fascist, not by shoving your face in it, starship troopers-style, but by including weird details that make sense in canon, but are weird to the viewer: like in Robot Jox, where the main character can't read, and how most women are constantly pregnant so the US can outbreed the USSR

also there weren't enough titties. I give this movie 4/10, do better

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>>80906712
kek
>buying blu-rays

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>>80906866
>feel like if verhoeven wanted to do the "this movie is in-universe propaganda" then he should have actually gone all the way: shoot it hand-held, helmet cams, etc, Cloverfield style
I don't think you understand what propaganda is.

>by including weird details that make sense in canon, but are weird to the viewer
You have to serve in the military to be considered a citizen
Only citizens are allowed to have children

>>80907045
There's other ways to become a citizen but serving in the military guarantees citizenship

>>80907147
The other methods were never mentioned, and "guarantees" is telling in that those other methods may not work and you'll have to do military service anyway.

And that doesn't negate the fact that you were wrong because you were too busy wanking during the shower scene.

>>80907215
I'm not the anon you were responding to, not sure what i was wrong about

And maybe but that's entirely your conjecture regarding citzenship

>>80905346
Put your hand on that wall.

>>80904966
GOVERNMENT LIED BEST GIRL DIED

>>80906245
That's some pretty fucking amazing cgi for 97

>>80907045
the movie explicitly states that "this is a government produced film" but there are many scenes with camera angles that would have been impossible to produce in the real world. breaks immersion. if the movie wants me to take it seriously as an in-universe cultural artifact, then it has to obey its own rules

>>80907347
Woah, it's almost as if this propaganda... isn't real. Someone should call the government and warn them.

>>80907328
It's mostly models.

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>>80904966
The fact that the only reason your talking about this movie now is because your husbandos talked about it.

>>80906884
>>>/v/

>>80904966
>argentina
>white

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>>80907328
>>80907386

>>80906895
Save my state! Please don't let "her" get elected!

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>>80908225
its the future. everyone is white.

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>>80904966
The redhead's tits were kinda small

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>>80908353

I would pay an absolutely exorbitant amount of money to own that.

>>80908457
Yeah they were alright but didnt make me go YOWZA

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>>80908420

>All those ships probably got thrown in the trash and burned

>>80908548
they looked bigger under the tight black t-shirt she was wearing. i'll never trust hollywood again.

>>80908633
I like to think the guys who made them got to keep them. The big ones in some guys garage or something.

>>80908653

I'd like to think so too but most studios are assholes about that stuff and won't let people take them.

>>80904966

It is among the very worst movies that I have ever seen, I could not bring myself to finish it all the way through (I got bored near the end and walked back in only just in time to hear the horribly stupid "it's afraid" chestnut, further confirming my correct opinion of this shit), and I immediately and automatically think less of people who like this movie at all. That goes triple for most of /tv/, who seem to have a generally positive opinion of the flick.

How's that, fucko?

>>80908633

You lament the theoretical destruction of everything to do with one of the worst films ever made.

Starship Troopers is absolute, one hundred percent F-minus dogshit, and anyone who disagrees is wrong. Fucking fight me. Protip: you can't.

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>>80908901

You'll grow up eventually.

>>80908809
you probably thought it was serious.

>>80909362

I've been grown. The movie is shit.

>>80909381

Whatever you have to tell yourself. It fails on both levels.

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>>80909669

Haha. Okay, kid.

>>80905684
Heinlein might not have been a fascist himself but the book certainly was. The federation ticks every box of what makes a fascist government.

>>80909857
It was a meritocratic system.

>>80904966
the actual attractive woman died and the whore lived

>DUDE FASCISM IS BAD DID U KNOW
>Tacking the name of a classic sci-fi novel onto a non-related script

>>80906014
>>80905872
>the book was boring
Jesus, I knew /tv/ had some shit opinions but you fuckers take the cake.

The beginning chapter is fucking fantastic, and does a near perfect job of describing the kinds of feelings that happen before a combat jump- the kind with parachutes we do now.

The whole book nails down a lot of general feelings about what it's like to be in the military. If you can't appreciate I don't know what to say to you. Apart from your opinions being objectively shit because it's considered a classic.

>>80910036
Just because it's accurate doesn't make it an engaging read. Not sure why someone would care exactly what it feels like to enter combat unless they're getting ready to enter military service. And even if that's the feeling I'm looking to understand, I'd much rather hear about it in the context of an actual event. No need for all the hostility.

>>80910036

>guys this work of fiction isn't boring
>just look how much detail goes into describing these feelings for an entire chapter

Yeah, okay, but the book and story itself is uninteresting and boring to read, so who gives a damn? You sound like those cinematography autists who think boring, badly written movies are good if there are just enough scenes that you can pull pretty-looking stills from.

What you're describing as being so good might be interesting from an academic perspective, or for someone interested in examining the technical aspects of writing about certain things, but that doesn't automatically make the book overall enjoyable or interesting, it might still be a boring work of fiction.

Anon didn't say the book was bad or that it was not technically sound or that the author had poor writing skills. He just said the book was boring.

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>>80906245
Formations are employed to maximize defensive weapons.

If you have fuck all for defensive platforms (or simply do not use them), formation flying/sailing is stupid.

Our carriers today have fuckall for immediate defensive weapons, but they have the rest of their carrier strike group to protect it.

>>80910587

Very few movies do space combat well when it comes to capital ships because the people making the fights can't think three dimensionally.

>>80905824
Pleb.

Was kinda boring but still well made for what it was.

It was a good film but the book is better and far more nuanced, which I guess is why millennial tranny leftists prefer the film. It's also not a very good attempted satire of fascism

>>80905294
>>80905856

Please tell me I'm not the one who always try the "Keep your arms behind your back and blindfold you with your own t-shirt" thing.

I never get it right though

>>80904993

fpbp

my favorite film theory, all the evidence lines up

>>80904966
Bitch on the left

Life imitates art

https://youtu.be/oSjOhdb0WHg

>>80914002
Jesus Christ

>>80905294

Busted tits

>>80914562
this

>>80914562
>>80914667
delete this NOW

>>80906245
That is a fucking great destruction!

too much boring action

not enough propaganda and ideology

Verhoeven nailed the balance on Robocop. Starship Troopers has some interesting ideas to share, but it's way too long and the characters suck and the action scenes get old fast.

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Let's talk about Carmen, and why she's the worst fucking pilot in the history of the federation. We'll examine every time she gets behind the wheel of a starship, and examine exactly how much she is fucking up and how much of a retard she is.

First time we see her fly is when she takes the shuttle from the surface of the moon to the orbital ring. She flies the thing inside of the network of beams and girdles, and judging from the reaction of her passengers, she's not supposed to do that. You can clearly see that there are walkways and airlocks inside of that thing, so it's reasonable to think that sometimes there are people in there. What if another shuttle had been parked in there? What if a team of engineers had been working EVA in there? She'd have pasted them on the windshield, and probably sent the shuttle ricocheting to a wall and killed a bunch of people. Great fucking work Carmen.

Then she gets in the Roger Young. She shows off once again by not disengaging the fuel ducts until the last moment. What would have happened if there had been a malfunction preventing them from releasing Carmen? Would you have had time to brake before the pipes tense up and snap? Why do you think everyone else is uncomfortable when you do that? It's because it's fucking retarded. You wouldn't have had time to brake. You'd have fucked up the refueling umbilicals and the Roger Young would have been stuck a week longer at port while it's being fixed.

Damn this is long, cont

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And then there's the stellar job she does at dodging the fucking asteroid. Why would she wait until the last second before starting to move away? How is it not better to start dodging as soon as possible? How does that make any sense? But no one else on the ship seems to mind, so I'll just chalk this up to nineties movie writing and give her a pass. Later when she's flying the escape pod it sort of makes sense for her to wait at the last minute before she starts braking because she's trying to let aerobraking do as much work as possible. The writers of a nineties action movie don't understand how maneuvering an airplane and maneuvering a starship are fundamentally different things. Never mind.

Let's move on then, to the Klendatu (or is it planet B?) orbital drop when the captain realizes that the bug orbital defenses are neither light nor random, and orders Carmen to break for high orbit. What would you do at this moment if you were in Carmen's seat? You'd punch the engines to full throttle and pitch up, right? And what does she do? She pitches down. She's going towards the planet where they're being shot at from. And before one of you retards starts talking about how she's dodging the ships in front of her, why did she have to dodge downwards? Why not dodge upwards? Not only does it move the ship away from danger, it also provides cover from ground fire because the other ships would be between the Roger Young and the planet. And why the fuck would she need to dodge anyway? The ships aren't accelerating, they're all moving at the same pace, just fly up Carmen, just fucking fly up, because this is a nineties movies and the writers don't understand how thrust works in a vacuum, let alone how orbital mechanics work, so these other ships can be stationary while having their engines turned on. Fly up Carmen. The Captain told you to fly up, why are you flying down?

Fuck you Carmen.

>>80904966
My only real gripe with the movie is that at the end when the trio are walking away from the brain bug, they aren't walking in the same formation as when they leave the high school. If they had it would have been great.

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>>80915282
Pt one of this post is great, the sequel is a but of a disappointment.

>>80909669
*tips fedora*

>>80904966
War glorifying ww2 level propaganda

>>80904966
Why would the soldiers advance towards the melee monsters while shooting? Shouldn't they try to keep distance to avoid getting sliced up?

>>80918209
>Why would the soldiers advance towards the melee monsters
Kek

Why not just destroy the entire planet? We currently have that technology.

>>80918209
The same reason guards with machineguns would run towrds the melee heroes in dystopian b-movies.

>>80918209
Throughout basic they were being trained to fight other humans, they didn't know what the fuck they were doing when they went up against the bugs.

>Rico goes to sign up for ground infintry
>the recruiter has no legs and robot arms
>"ground infintry made me the man I am today"
How did people not get the satire in this movie?

>>80910587
Having them fly in a purposefully retarded way was part of the movie.

>>80905346
That was part of the subversion

Their lips are the same color as their skin and that creeps me out.

>>80908169
This.

/TV/ is unaware of how many of their "opinions" are parroted from rlm

>>80910203
>Not sure why someone would care exactly what it feels like to enter combat unless they're getting ready to enter military service.

Really?

>>80906895
>dropped
>need over 1km/s dV to deorbit something from the moon

>>80908306

sorry bro, we can't let up the opportunity to make the democrats look like an even bigger joke..