WTF happened?

>>80862907
Jimmy is going to have to go full Anti Trump mode to regain his position.

wtf i hate jimmy fallon now

and yet it's a fraction of someone like letterman

>>80862907
.....So Donald DRUMPF LMAO

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these dubs happened

>So.... Donald Trump

>>80862907
The liberal hate machine

Jimmy is not being a good boy for (((them))) and attacking Trump for his whole show.

wow 2 months, did something happen recently that would cause this upset

I don't get it Leno always won because he appealed to middle america and wasn't politcal

is the hate for drumpf that strong?

I met James Corden during his show with Chris Pratt and Olivia Munn last december, he's a funny guy and great with people

>>80862907

All the ratings are fake. They made Jimmy king of late night because they wanted to bring in the young crowds. Once Jimmy refused to bow down to political shit they ousted him and put Colbert on top.

>Colbert drops in ratings
>right wingers credit Trump
>Colbert gains ratings
>right wingers credit Trump

It's like watching a science experiment involving lab rats.

>>80863118

i wouldn't be surprised desu

>>80863068
>is the hate for drumpf that strong?

Look at the polls. The answer is yes.

Also
>drumpf
I don't fucking understand what Oliver was trying to do with this inane shit. Of all the things to make fun of Trump over, why this?

guys i know we all worship dear leader and we hate anyone who insults him but fallon is the worst latenight talkshow host in history. his show is fucking awful.

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>>80862984
nah, feast your eyes on these

Trump BTFO!!!!

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Trump is a comedy goldmine, look at SNL's ratings, they're killing it

He's a joke and a license to print money for late night. Fallon needs to step it up, he's deliberately apolitical and it is hurting him

Whatever, it's not like anyone who watches these shows is being redpilled or whatever, it's just for laughs anyways

>Jimmy starts doing pro Trump material
>his ratings skyrocket with right wing viewers along with his usual viewers
>media declares Colbert king of late night anyways because he's getting the right kind of viewers

>>80863171
nah, seth meyers exists

>>80863220

Does he though?

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>>80863033
yeah Fallon helped Trump get elected by having him on the show

Fallon's still ahead in the Electoral College ratings.

>>80863205
le le le redpill sekret club XD

>>80863068
Leno could do it all, Colbert was fucking awful before he just did Colbert Report 2.0 because politics because something with crazy shit happening all the time

>>80863245
are you saying that he's bigfoot?

>>80863211
What episode of Fallon was pro trump recently?

>>80863211
>Fallon starts getting sponsored by Viagra and fleet farm

>>80863177
nice

>>80863340

Bigfoot is popular in pop culture, so no, he couldn't be.

Colbert is now the Daily Show. Daily Show viewers abandon South African host in favor of much funnier Colbert.

Liberals have a lot of outlets for their political bent but they love Colbert the most as long as Stewart is gone.

This is also an attack on Fallon for failing to attack Trump when he appeared as a guest before the election so they will try to bury him.

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>>80863411

Mocking the President of the United States should be against the law.

people don't want to watch that uppity maniac jimmy fallon that late into the night, let's be real

>>80862907
Is this legit or propaganda? People like Chapelle has the balls to come out and say Trump's bad for comedy cause it's redundant as fuck

>>80862952
Different times. People used to actually watch tv when Letterman was on the air.

>thinking Jimmy Fallon is in anyway less cancerous than Colbert with his le nerd memes

Based Colbert and current year man taking care of Business...everyday

>>80862907
Dude drumf lmao...

>>80862907
Jimmy Fallon is the shits.

>>80862907
He's attacking Trump which is what the people want

>>80863205
You're mentally ill bro

>>80862907
he can basically do the Colbert Report unironically now
as long as Trump keeps doing relevant things, he can keep basing his comedy off of it

>>80863205
Kek. Secretly they all want trump as a president for 8 years

>>80863554
that's fascism anon

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>>80862907
/pol/ whines about how Colbert insults their precious messiah, but it works. It's the same strategy Jon Stewart used. Bush was comedy gold, and so is Trump. Colbert will get at least 4 years of easy ratings out of it.

>>80862907

what's it take to be the king of late night these days anyway, 1.5 million viewers? if the media didn't inflate their relevance neerbody would give a shit.

>>80863599
Bad for comedy-as-art, good for comedy ratings.

>>80863802
>4 years
Maybe the treason hearings will go on that long but Trump won't be president for four years

>>80863795
>Jimmy I just told you that my daughter died of brain cancer, what is wrong with you?

>>80863802
>Colbert will get at least 4 years of easy ratings out of it.

well, unless Comey digs something big up

Why was Bush era humour funny but Trump humour not?

Obama era was in the middle.

I like Colbert since he's the best interviewer of any of the current Latenight hosts.

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>Conan

Ouch. What the fuck went wrong?

>>80863955

it was good natured ribbing, less egomaniacal ranting

It doesn't really matter. 8 years of sick Daily Show burns did legitimately nothing to undermine the Bush administration. And when Stewart had John Yoo on, the guy who created the torture memos for Bush, he made him look reasonable and completely fucked it up.

History will repeat itself here. I certainly find the state of late night TV to be highly redundant, but I don't watch any of it anyway so I'm not obliged to care. If they changed I wouldn't watch it either.

So fuck it.

>>80864009
>tbs
Wow that was difficult to explain. I'd bet most anericans couldnt even tell you what number that channel is on their provider

>>80863411
double nice

>>80864200
TRIPLE NICE

>>80862907

falloon alienated a lot of people with his lovey dovey interview with trump plus i think people have just gotten tired of his schtick.

where are all the idiots that were claiming james corden was taking over for stephen colbert within months. some people acted like it was a done deal on here even though corden regularly loses to fucking nightline.

>>80863177
Underrated

>>80863605
This.
It's like glamorizing Britney's Spear's album sales back in the 90s and early 2000s while trashtalking Godga's.

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>>80864009
>1.3 million people still watching the daily show
good god

>>80863876
>>80863865
>tfw this fags actually believe this
Kek

>>80863599
>People like Chapelle has the balls to come out and say Trump's bad for comedy cause it's redundant as fuck
And Lewis Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkhCqFG6Qv0
>5:00 to 5:59

>>80864467
I feel like the userbase completely changed over the last 6 months, am I getting gaslit by shills or what

>>80864467
>tfw trumptards are so stupid they can't into grammar

Fallon actually wins in the important demographics though

Only reason Colbert is doing well now is because Liberals like people to pat them on the back & confirm their views, this Trump hype train will die down soon

>>80863118
As someone who works for Nielsen I can tell you this in unequivocally false. Billions of dollars ride on accurate and unbiased ratings and all the networks compete with each other. If they even SUSPECTED the ratings were cooked they wouldnt pay us to measure it.

>>80863165
Because he called out John Stewart for having a phony last name in a tweet

>>80863068
The country is polarizing and everything in the center/neutral is getting fucked

>>80863554
You sound like you'd fit right in in North Korea.

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>it's another 4-8 years of low hanging fruit comedy because the republicans are an easy punching bag

Why the fuck are comedians so lazy?

Why is 18-49 the valuable demo? What makes a 25 or a 35 year old more valuable to advertisers than a 55 or 60 year old? Old people buy shit too. They also watch more TV and have more income.

>>80863153
It's almost like all Colbert talks about is Trump or something.

>>80864625
Is your job good?

>>80863781
It was racism to insult the president the last 8 years, what happened?

>>80864811
>It was racism to insult the president the last 8 years

No it wasn't, unless you actually said something racist

>>80862907
The CIA agreed to make it look like he got a ratings boost in exchange for him shilling for them.

>>80864718
>republicans are an easy punching bag
It's not exactly an unearned reputation. They had 7 years to come up with an Obamacare replacement, tried 60 times to repeal it when they held the senate and then had their own bill defeated by other republicans while they currently hold all levels of federal government

>>80863171
I've hated Fallon with a burning passion ever since he showed his stupid face on SNL (he IMO marked SNL's jump of the cliff in terms of quality).
In terms of latenight, Fallon is better than Colbert and Meyers. I generally find the three of them intolerable but at least Fallon has found something he's somewhat decent at and is politically neutral.

Conan and Ferguson are the best right now with that fatty boy brit in 3rd. I don't even care if they get somewhat political (but they aren't full on Colbert levels of idiocy either) they are just better comedians.


>>80863205
SNL's political comedy hey day was during the Bill Clinton Administration. By far.
Norm McDonald is one of the most underappreciated SNL comics and by far the best thing to come out of SNL since 1988

>>80864726
18-49 buy many times more shit.

>>80862907
Dude Trump lmao, liberals are looking for some catharsis.
Or this is a lie aimed at drumming up interest in Colbert who has been groomed as the successor to Jon Stewart.
You wouldn't know either way.

Trump is the best thing to ever happen to Colbert, ironically.

>>80864880
Actually, racism is power + privilege, and since everyone in the United States is less privileged than the president, it's impossible to make a racist insult about the president.

>>80864925
This is a good thing, lots of Republicans don't like TrumpCare because it's ObamaCare 2.0 at the moment

Obamacare passed without any tweaking from the Democrats & there was consequences for that

If you're going against Jimmy Fallon its not really a competition now is it

>>80864925
I'm not saying they aren't funny, but its just the easiest and most lazy shit to joke about, and it always will earn laughs, its dumb.

>>80862907
>President's first 2 months are literally a garbage fire
>The Colbert Report: Unironic Edition is topping the charts somehow

Not on my norwegian whaling ship.

>>80863802
8 years

>>80862907
Trump got elected and Colbert went from "aww shucks ain't President Obama just the greatest lemme suck his dick some more" to being funny again and actually telling jokes.

>>80864925
>had 7 years to come up with a replacement
No, they needed to repeal it completely. Where did this "we need a replacement" meme start?
>dude DRUMPF as been in office already a few months why hasn't he destroyed Obamacare yet?
Liberals like you are banking on emotional, not thoughtful or intelligent responses. And you lack any self awareness.

>>80865001
>it always will earn laughs
No, it always earns cheering and applause. These people aren't telling jokes, they're holding political rallies.

>>80865042
>No, they needed to repeal it completely. Where did this "we need a replacement" meme start?

Uhhh when Trump ran on a platform of "Repealing and replacing" Obamacare

>>80863554
No. But Slander and Libel against the President should actually be enforced and dealt with harshly.
Everyone gets protection from slander and libel by the constitution and there have been more than a few occasions where th media playing fast and loose has tred on Slanderous/libelous territory.

Biggest case in point - flat out making shit up

>>80864981
>lots of Republicans don't like TrumpCare because it's ObamaCare 2.0 at the moment
Then there were the ones like Cotton who were afraid they'd lose their reelection because it would actually cause overall coverage to drop

>>80865042
>What is repeal and replace like Trump kept saying

>>80864726
Because 18-25 is when a person's consumer preferences are established. They're also the trend setters the rest of the age groups follow.

>>80863205
I only hate them because of 1: they don't seem to be capable of doing anything other than trump is orange lmao, and 2: people take entertainment as fact

>>80864726
18 to 49 is just so they can include nearly everyone. It used to be 18 to 25 (college age) then 25 to 40 (early work force) and so on.

Its a way to cheat numbers

>>80863802
How much does it hurt to know that the style originated with a right wing comedian ripping on the Clinton Administration in the 90's?

Norm McDonald is a god, someone should have put him on a show during the Obama years. He was savage tier against Hillary in the 90's

>>80865042
Trump literally said every American would have coverage, not fucking "access to coverage" but full blown coverage. He's not a libertarian and then there's no point pretending he didn't say he wanted to "repeal and replace obamacare"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fact-checking-trumps-repeal-replace-obamacare-timeline/story?id=46360908

>>80862907

It's essentially what >>80863518 said.

Colbert is filling the gaping vacuum left by both the Daily Show and the Colbert Report and running a show that appeals to audiences of both of those things.

>>80864092
The Daily Show couldn't even meme it's golden boy John Kerry into the oval office. Jon Stewart is a failure

>>80864925
>and then had their own bill defeated by other republicans while they currently hold all levels of federal government
It's cause of difference of opinions. Something alien to democratic party

>>80865155
He's also a prime example why there's no right wing comedians doing right wing comedy: he got fired for doing it because liberals have zero sense of humor and cannot take a joke.

>>80865185
>using Trump's own words against him
gtfo shill

>>80865212
>Obama spent most of his first months in office trying to wrangle the different Democratic factions in line

Yeah totally alien

>>80865250
>liberals have zero sense of humor and cannot take a joke.

Why do right-wingers psychologically project onto liberals?

>>80865185
>Trump said
YOU said "the last 7 years" during which Trump was not politically active.
Not "the months prior to Trump's inauguration".

>>80865042

>Liberals like you are banking on emotional, not thoughtful or intelligent responses. And you lack any self awareness.

Trump in numerous stump speeches specifically stated that he was going to repeal Obamacare on Day 1. Now we all know at this point that Trump can't be taken literally on anything but repealing Obamacare was a major part of his personal platform and one of the things that drew people to him. It isn't banking on emotion to use his own words against him.

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>>80865212
Yet they rushed ahead when they knew it would fail. They tried to introduce a law that NOBODY liked and lost. There wasn't any debate, it was take it or leave it and people left it

>>80865155
>right wing comedian
>Norm Mcdonald

>>80863386
Holy shit where you from anon I never hear someone that knows good old Fleet Farm

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>>80862907
Hey started doing more bits like...

>>80862907
How do they track ratings ?

>>80863966

Actually that goes to jimmy kimmel by far. Where jimmy Fallon and Stephen Colbert can't really help but inset themselves into the interview, kimmel really has that balance of allowing their interviewer have he spotlight.

>>80865311
I'm not right wing, though.

If you're liberal, my suggestion to you is to grow a spine and learn how to take a joke. Because when you whine about how Dave Chappelle is "transphobic" because of some jokes he told, you look like a fucking crybaby to the rest of us because you're being a fucking crybaby.

>Trump says he'll repeal Obamacare
>liberals screech REEEE HE HATES POOR PEOPLE
>Trump attempts to come up with a moderate replacement
>it fails
>liberals laugh LOL HE CAN'T EVEN PASS A BILL AND HE PROMISED HE WOULD REPEAL OBAMACARE
DRUMPF LIED
This is why no one tries to appease you anymore

>>80862907
>number one late night show
>still less viewers than pewdiepie

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>>80865475
>Trump attempts to come up with a moderate replacement

>>80865475
>Trump attempts to come up with a moderate replacement
He didn't suggest a replacement, he tried to push through Ryan's bill

>>80865475
>moderate replacement
No anon that was not a moderate replacement. It was so shit even his own party hated it

>>80865475
Liberals are just in full REEEEE mode right now. Trump's best move is precisely what he's doing: Just trying to knock out all his campaign promises early on and getting them out of the way so he can be more of a compromise leader down the road when the hysteria dies down.

I have never watched Colbert on CBS

>>80865475

>moderate replacement

It was literally just a giant tax cut for the rich, and a vague promise of "insurance companies will still take you with pre-existing conditions, but w/o the mandate they'll just charge w/e for it so get fucked."

I understand where the free market thinkers are coming from with this shit, but the health insurance market isn't like any other commodity market and I have no idea why people think it will self regulate and provide service like one.

>>80865458
>If you're liberal, my suggestion to you is to grow a spine and learn how to take a joke.

But the vast majority of comedians are liberals

>>80865555

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGBhQbmPwH8&list=PL5wIANSfIdw_7vtJe9T5Y5WTiF2kAnZoW

>>80865555
I can't believe you wasted quads on such a nonsense post

>>80865384
They give like 10,000 people these neilsen boxes that tracks what they watch and apparently that's good enough of a sample size

>>80865555
>L-LE 18D CHESS XD

Who /jonbatiste/ here?

>>80865185
It's republicans tiptoeing around cutting an entitlement.
Entitlement spending is killing the country, but they also percieve cutting such to be political suicide. At this point it's better to go balls to the wall slash and burn gut fucking everything. They'll lose the majority within 4 years either way. Gut all of it, start cutting government and drop taxes off the cliff and let a reborn economy speak for itself.
That kind of thing requires intestinal fortitude and the knowledge that a few skulls will need to be cracked. But the alternative is the USA keeps spiraling down the shitter, we lose the congress/senate anyway and we're a full socialist state by 2024 before total collapse in 2030

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>>80863177

>>80865649
Yes, the Republicans absolutely crushed in the last election because the Democrats are so logical and reasonable, right?

>>80863605
That, and of course Letterman got good ratings when there were only 5 channels on tv

>>80865250
Go and look at his SNL body of work. He turned blues against the Clintons ffs.
He was absolutely savage against the Clintons, and probably ultimately left a bad enough taste in people mouth that it cost Gore his critical electoral votes.

SNL back then was a much, much bigger force on public perception than it is today

>>80865717
>winning the popular vote
>absolutely crushed

>>80863177
Nice work

>>80863082
Fuck off faggot

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>Muh conservatism
Good luck drowning in debt

>>80865311
He isn't wrong either. McDonald and others like him have moved to radio/non traditional media because they've literally been blacklisted.
For example compare the Man Show hosts.
Kimmel stayed low key/centre and got a fucking late night talk show and movie deals.
Carolla hasn't done shit besides his radioshow/podcast besides his V/A work

>>80864928
Ferguson has a talk show again?

>>80865990
I, too, was present at every turn of MacDonald's career. Stfu you whiny bitch

>>80865841
I'm referring to them winning every branch of government.

>>80865591
Because conservatives, by and large, don't ruin people's careers when they tell jokes shitting on Republicans or men or white people or Christians.

>>80863876
Comey is a child rapist. He pink sleeved a little boy in Phuket, then told the madam, "Can I get another one? This one's broken"

>>80865591
Telling a joke isn't the same as taking a joke, and, no, only a small number of comedians are actually outspoken liberals. The majority don't really engage in politics seriously.

>>80865311
Objectively bad SJW comedians like (((Amy Schumer))) get movie deals and gigs up the wazoo when there are several actually great female comedians who aren't Sarah Silverman and who get fuck all.
There is not a single right wing political comedy show on network or premium TV outside of FOX news and the only one even touching on right wing ideas recently was strangled in the crib.
There has been an opening for an idealogical opposite to Bill Maher for YEARS. Showtime could have easily made a right wing comedy show to take on Maher and they could have made hand over fist for a few seasons. There has always been a demand for right wing political commentary comedy - something a lighter and easier to digest than fucking traditional Right Wing Media.

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>>80866155
Remember when a kid told a joke about Amy Schumer, an outspoken liberal? Remember how well she took it, even when the joke was exactly the same kind of joke she'd make about herself?

Oh wait, no, she cried about it. Nevermind.

>>80865330
He penciled out the worst parts of Obamacare on day 1 - the mandatory "Tax" for being uninsured among them. He also did the across state lines thing

>>80865841
>winning something that carries no weight whatsoever while losing all swing states, losing some of your own states, and winning none of your opponent's states, while not even being close in electoral votes, the thing that actually matters

Abso-fucking-lutely crushed.

>>80862907
He helped normalize Donald Trump's racism.

>>80866252
And then her comedy special gets bad ratings and she cries like an absolute bitch about how it must be right wing trolls and Netflix has to change the rating system just to protect her hurt feelings.

Amy Schumer has the thinnest skin of anyone I've ever seen in comedy.

>>80865700
>/pol/tard ignores military spending?
>Why not?
>/pol/tards think /tv/ is /pol/

>>80866299
And she lost it all to Trump, a candidate that was basically a "joke." You can't get more crushed than that.

>>80866298
>He penciled out the worst parts of Obamacare on day 1 - the mandatory "Tax" for being uninsured among them.

So he sped up the explosion of Obamacare, while talking up the explosion of Obamacare. And, today he proceeded to throw a fit and told the American public he has better things to do than deal with healthcare. No way this backfires on him at all.

>>80865311
Liberals have a stranglehold over the media, one they guard with a jealous fervor, and during the Obama years Media and Govt. got awfully fucking close.
Not allowing right wing viewpoints their place in the sun, not giving them a chance, just ends up in less people consuming media, less people paying for media, I mean I could go on.
It's no fucking surprise Bill Maher hasn't had a competiting show on the opposite political spectrum in 15+ years, because McDonald was strangled in the crib post his SNL career

>people are still defending Obama "higher premium care"

>>80865340
He's center right obviously, jumps between left and right viewpoints here and there, he was still a good alternative to Maher

>>80862907

>DANCE YOU FILTHY GOY BASTIDS!

>>80866299
>Lost popular vote
>"absolutely crushed"
No no I No no I get it
This is a comedy thread
Bone crushing sarcasm

>>80866438
Jimmy Fallon is the most politically neutral talk show host there is on television, and he STILL got skewered by the media when he didn't sperg out on Trump. They're at the point now where even total moderates are too far right for them to want them to have a platform.

>>80865787
He riffed the Clintons because they, believe it or not, Bill was in office and Hillary was the first lady. Kind of like weekend update has done since the beginning. But nah, I guess you think everyone hates Frank Stallone and David Hasselhoff too, since they were also frequent punchlines.

>>80864914
So you could say metaphorically the fire (ratings) rises?

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>all these late night show hosts do is talk about Trump
>free easy material
>drooling brain dead liberal viewers actually think people Stephen Colbert is on their side
Colbert is probably just as wealthy as Trump is. Its just baffling how people say Trump shouldn't be president because he was on a reality show but they un-ironically would vote for Stephen Colbert.

You can't make this shit up

>>80866381
Providing for the common defense is enshrined in the constitution, but I can agree we need to get military spending down (by cutting waste, telling the navy "no fuck off" for once, and stopping the stupid shit like 4000 dollars for a bolt when the same shit costs .89 in Harbor Freight).
Military Spending is at least more flexible - it expands and contracts according to political will and other factors.
Obama himself cut a few billion of the top of military spending.
Entitlement spending is inflexible, spending never goes down, it always goes up.
You can't even cut entitlements in a fucking recession (as we saw) when the .gov is trillions in debt. The .mil is much easier to cut

>>80866588
What's the point of winning the popular vote if don't also win the electoral vote and become president? I mean, at best, that's really a consolation prize. It's consoling to the loser, but at the end of the day, they're still the loser and not president.

I mean, maybe I don't get it because I'm not an American but it seems like if you run for president your main goal is to become president, not to merely get a lot of votes, and if you fail at doing that, you're a failure. And if you fail against a joke candidate like Trump who was given like a 1% chance to win, you're an even bigger failure.

>>80866588
>literally lose
>not absolutely crushed
you're so funny dude

>Dallas Mavericks 106 - 32 Chicago Bulls
>But Chicago had more fans at the game so they're the real winners here

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>>80866720
Colbert is clearly emotionally obsessed with Trump, though. Remember when he called Trump a Nazi for pointing out that Muslims are violent towards gay people?

>>80866720
These same people think Bernie Sanders is a "common man" fighting for them meanwhile Sanders bought a third house for $600,000 and pays a fraction of what Trump pays in taxes.

>>80866720
>Colbert is probably just as wealthy as Trump is.
That only speaks to how bafflingly unwealthy Trump actually is.

>>80866685
McDonald did alot more then just "riff" the Clintons.
That kind of commentary was absolutely non-existent outside of internet radio/podcasts during the Obama years, there was a total media shut down against political opposition to the left, don't be an idiot.
Go watch Norm's SNL news skits during the 90's

>>80866842
>that retarded analogy
kek I can't tell when people are false flagging or not anymore

>>80862907
The "so....trump" strategy paid off

>>80866685
I sure remember all those Obama and Michelle punchlines.

>>80866720
>shouldn't be president because he was on a reality show

that's not why they say he shouldn't be president

>>80866889
McDonald was absolutely savage on the Clintons and I've never seen a comedian on TV be that hard on a liberal politician since, probably because McDonald was fired for doing it.

>>80866930
Oh man, Obama jokes were so hilarious. Remember the one where the joke was that Obama was such a nice guy and never got too angry at people? That was really controversial and it really made people think. Not sure how they got away with that one but it was really groundbreaking stuff.

>>80866908
Your whole argument is retarded dude, just kill yourself.

>>80866889
I watched them when they aired. He mostly just did "Bill wants to get rid of frumpy bitch Hillary" jokes. Must be a big reason why Bill Clinton left office with one of the highest approval ratings since they've been recorded.

Problem with Obama is he there's very little to work with. He doesn't act goofy or talk in a funny voice, nor did he really do anything very risky or radical while in office, his party affiliation not withstanding.

>>80866958
He was fired for saying fuck on air.

>>80866805
>common defense
I don't think military bases all across the world and especially in any country we've ever been in conflict with counts as providing for the common defense. Standing armies are a bad idea to begin with anyways, civillian militia's are the only non-tyrannical option

>>80867045
>Problem with Obama is he there's very little to work with. He doesn't act goofy or talk in a funny voice, nor did he really do anything very risky or radical while in office
He was spearheading the single greatest violation of the 4th amendment in our nation's history. ANYONE with political conviction could have made an issue out of the NSA, and nobody wanted to. 'Obama didn't provide comedians with material' is just a meme put forward by partisan hacks to justify blatant partisan hackery.

>>80867045
>He doesn't act goofy or talk in a funny voice,
Uhhhh uhhh uhhhh uhhhh uhhhhh uuuuuhhhh folks uhh uhhh uhh

>>80867045
>He doesn't act goofy or talk in a funny voice
Yes he does, he does those annoying pauses mid sentence with the glottal fry "uhh..."
>nor did he really do anything very risky or radical while in office
He sold weapons to the cartels and financed ISIS amongst many other things.
There was plenty of material to use, they just didn't because he was on their side.
There was more legitimate stuff to rip on Obama that Trump, that's why they're jokes are all so shallow, they have to make so much shit up, "muh racist rapist russian puppet durr"

>>80867186
>>80867225
Since this thread is about comedy, try writing good jokes about those things. Better yet write eight years worth of jokes on that.

It's a lot easier just bringing out Darrell Hammond or Will Farrell and do an exaggerated parody on the way they talk and little mannerism. They tried that with Obama and it bombed. Blame the writers if you want but he just didn't make good source material.

>>80867308
>They tried that with Obama and it bombed.
They didn't try though, they were actively avoiding making him look bad.

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>>80862907
Woah, the majority doesn't support my opinions!

>>80867308
>They tried that with Obama and it bombed

No they didn't. "Political comedy in the Obama era" was pretty much just
>invite Obama onto show
>"Looks like those Republican clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns, eh Barack?"

>>80867186
They never made jokes about the PATRIOT ACT before, so they weren't gonna do it when Obama continued to escalate Bush's shit. Besides do you lads in this thread seriously expect comedians to do serious satire on television that points out to actual policy problems in a nuanced manner? Most of the time they just tell stupid jokes about the president's mannerisms, and nowadays when they do go after news, its only slightly more distilled than the shit they spew on the regular news

>>80867308
>They tried that with Obama and it bombed.
Trump had more 'take down' jokes made about him during his campaign than Obama did during his entire presidency. They were trying to NOT talk about Obama.

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>>80867358
>majority

>>80867045
>He doesn't act goofy or talk in a funny voice,

if if if if uh uh uh bunch of okey doke...

How are talkshows even still a thing? It's an old format, who even watches this shit still lmao
>shitty monologues
>guest comes on tells some shitty story they agreed on
>guest plugs his shitty book/new project
>unfunny shit to fill the rest
>fuck drumpf and fuck white people
I just cant imagine how anyone would enjoy this

drumpf.

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>>80867308
Hey sooo uhh... Barack Obama
>*audience laughs*
Sooo,,, basically uhh... Obama had a news conference and said.. well.. roll it
>*rolls clip*
>*camera pans back to host pulling weird face*
>*audience crying of laughter*
So.. uhh... Not just that but (somebody close to Obama) said this...
>*zoom in on news article*
>*reads it slowly then the punchline out loud*
Oh... uhh.. man
>*audience on the floor laughing*
Barack Obama
>*several audience members urinate themselves*
Barack....
>*woman laughing so hard she gives birth prematurely*
...Obama
>*everybody dies*

>>80867473
>who even watches this shit still lmao

Boomers that literally just watch television for the sake of it

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You thought it would be funny to false flag as Trump supporters and end posts with 'Sad!'

Was it worth attracting people who genuinely love him and can't spot sarcasm or irony to save their lives?

is it funny or pathetic that lefty retards try and find solidarity in stephen fucking colbert? the guy is just pure cringe and from what i've seen he seems to pull all his talking points directly from huffington post blogs. i guess an entire generation grew up unironically getting their news from jon leibowitz so it shoudn't be that shocking. who said that the lowest form of humor was political? it's what people with no talent do since you'll always get the support of one side

>>80867450
are you implying that land mass is people

>>80867473
My mom watches them. It feels like she's just passing the time now till she dies.

>>80862907

russian hackers must be to blame!

right, libtards?

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>>80867450
>Alex Egoshin

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>>80867531
>niggers & spics
>people

>>80867530
>try and find solidarity in stephen fucking colbert
How did you reach this conclusio?. I'm ultralefty and I've long ago realized that most commentators, if not all, in the media will say anything that fits the narrative of the audience they're trying to sell to, and that especially includes comedians

>>80867308
There was a ton of golden material opportunity on Obama, just look at how far political cartoonists and non-mainstream media took Obama satire.
Media is leftwing, almost fully leftwing, and they got reeaaal close to the Obama govt.
You can't even argue it was hard because they would have had to tiptoe around the race issue

>>80867688
hack comedians get political. colbert wasn't half as relevant until he started spouting insane conspiracy theory tier bullshit. his show is a live action huffington post blog

>I'm ultralefty
wear that retard badge proud. gonna be a shame when your pet niggers turn on you. just kidding, it'll be funny watching you die

>>80867308
Obama made great material

>hurr durr Trayvon could be by sonn
>Crying like a bitch after a garden variety school shooting

>>80867688
It's easy for a guy on 4chan to know how much bullshit the media spreads, because people post their inconsistencies here all the time.
The average lefty takes the media as an objective authority on all things, except Faux News lmao

>>80867045
>He doesn't act goofy or talk in a funny voice, nor did he really do anything very risky
>Trayvon is like my son
>ayo hole up
>uh uh uh if if if
>Obama working out in Poland dot gif
>massive monkey ears ripe for caricature
>multiple gaffes from saluting failures to mislabeling representatives
There was a ton of free material, stuff I am not even listing
And what did we get? Key and Peele's "black translation of well-spoken Obama"

late night talk shows have been shit ever since conan lost his LATE time slot (ignore the tonight show, he couldnt be conan at that time)

prove me wrong

>>80867170
Don't even try to argue fucking semantics. Military spending is by and far much, much more flexible than entitlement spending.
Of fucking course it needs to be lowered (smartly) There is no excuse for the continued growth of entitlement spending other than the fact that career politicians exist and to do so is percieved as political suicide

>>80867772
>The only shooting Obama cried over was the only one with no evidence made public

Hmm, really makes me think...

>>80867828
>>ayo hole up
did he actually say this?

>>80867640
what?

>>80867876
>There is no excuse for the continued growth of entitlement spending other than the fact that career politicians exist and to do so is percieved as political suicide

Yeah but no politician is ever going to get re-elected let alone elected by telling Boomers that they need to adjust their expectations on entitlements

Why didn't the media talk about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k

>>80867922
BBoomers are starting to drop tho. Give it a decade and they will all be over 65 and out of the workforce for the youngest. The oldest are starting to die off.

>>80867045
He called her a cuckold hag ffs, that shit was savagery compared to the P.C. "comedy" of modern times.

>Higher approval ratings than Bush Sr., Bish Jr., and Obama
>Higher approval ratings than 3 objectively worse presidents (not that I like Bill)
It's really not special

>>80867930
Because it fucks with the narrative.

Same way Obama was asked his religion in an interview and said muslim. Or that there were apparently silence minutes at white house at mussie prayer hours.

>>80867963
>Give it a decade and they will all be over 65 and out of the workforce for the youngest

But the problem is that the voting age doesn't end at 65 - those bastards will be voting for entitlements until they actually die

>>80864260
Way to ruin it, anon.

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>tfw our economy is a fucking house of cards because people are too stupid to plan their retirement
Fuck I hate social security.

>>80868014
>>80868014
It's gonna start. soon in any case. Life expectancy is 75-80? Early bboomers reached that.

>>80863068
Well, he's human garbage, so...

>>80868091
Hello, urban retard

>>80868091
>so...
Please be my gf

>>80867423
what
Maybe you were too young to remember but people made fun of the Patriot Act
>as white male I can legally detain any other citizen. Its in the patriotic act
>according to the patriot act any court room tv show proceedings can be submitted to actual court

>>80864384
Godga's?

Really?

>>80868013
>Or that there were apparently silence minutes at white house at mussie prayer hours.

sauce?

>>80867922
Everyone needs to be told they need to adjust their expectations on entitlements. Everyone.

Lifelong seats needs to fucking end because with it the political will to do hard shit doesn't exist

>obama literally blew up a MSF hospital with a drone strike

BUT DRUMPF IS THE BAD GUY!

>nobel peace prize for murdering helpless children and doctors in a warzone

>>80868014
Social security benefits will never go away.

>>80865185
>appeal to reality
Logical fallacy in the world of /pol/

>>80868060
>force people to pay into a program
>get mad at them when they are due to receive the money they paid over their entire career

It's the liberal safe space of television. So much of that dumb country is still

>CAN'T EVEN

after Trump got elected

>>80867907
https://youtu.be/__12GXJp4Tg

>>80864718

>Why the fuck are comedians so lazy?

It is hardly the kind of work you get into because you love working hard.

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>>80868259
>drastically undervalue what people pay into social security based on the idea of perpetual growth rates of 5-8%
>wonder why it will inevitably be insolvent

>>80868170
>Trump's first major military operation is boots on the ground
>troops go into the grinder, lose a fucking SEAL
>multiple civilian casualties
>no discernible intel
>OBONGO'S THE BAD GUY BECAUSE COLLATERAL DAMAGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

At least the muslim tried to do something good for the country while Drumpf is only looking out for himself and all his bootlicking cronies. Trying to set himself up like the Putin of the West like some sort of sociopath, yeah, much better situation we've got nowadays.

>>80865475
>>80865555
So this is what mental illness looks like?

>>80868313
Not their fault.

>>80864507
You didn't even understand the joke. The joke was trump is so ridiculous that he couldn't possibly make him seem worse.

That's the joke.

It's brilliant and it completely went over your head.

It's not that he won't do trump jokes because it's redundant. The joke is he won't do trump jokes because he's that insane.

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>>80868323
>liberal saying anyone else is mentally ill
Like I said, lack of self awareness plagues you people.

>>80863205
This, might as well pack your bags now drumpfsters.

>>80866299
>More people voted Hillary with all her scandals as Pres than Drumpf
>She got crushed
Too bad /pol/cucks have no self awareness

>>80868323
Yes. Careful, it's contagious around here.

>>80868358
They've had 2-3 decades to sort it out, they just stuck their heads in the sand hoping that "it'll solve itself somehow"

>>80866817
Because it shows her policies are more P-O-P-U-L-A-R and she lost only due to bureaucratical shit. Since the debate is about the popularity of right and left wing politics this is literally the most important question

Drumpflets everyone

>>80868421
That's a condemnation of Hillary and liberals, not us
>haha so sure you were smart enough not to vote for the lesser of two evils but you're the minority it doesn't count!

lets describe liberal comedy:

>donald... (laughs)
>trump (ROARING LAUGHTER)
>said he would make america great again! but it seems like all he wants to do is repaint the kremlin!
>(audience fainting from laughter)

dont you people get tired of this shit?

>>80868546
Tired of winning? I'm not quite there yet.

>>80868546
How could you possibly describe it when you don't understand it? You would say by your own admission that you don't get it.

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>>80863177

>>80868319
The West needs a strongman, it's circling the drain and the only thing that's going to save it is a radical shift. If America fails this country will balkanize and there will be strife that will make WW2 seem tame in comparison.
Who literally gives a fuck about dead foreigners, as for the SEAL, occupational hazard.

Let me put it into an easier to digest package for you.
It's 1982 and we're the Soviet Union.
It's 1900 and we're the British Empire
It's 1934 and we're the Japanese Empire
It's the final era of Rome

Business as usual isn't going to cut it, we have the foresight to know collapse is on the horizon.

Leftist idealogies are not only responsible for much of the problem, they are also standing in the way of the solution. Understand the sense of urgency on the right and realize they are deadly fucking serious

>>80868592

my point is you know the jokes, you know the punchline, you just want to laugh like monkeys trained to respond to a bell.

how do you laugh at comedy like that?

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If liberals are so confident in the popular vote then why are they so mortally terrified of Voter ID laws?

>>80863966
I actually like his interviews. I can't remember any other host asking these questions from a guest:

Why is there something rather than nothing? Why does the universe exist at all?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ZOwNK6n9U

>>80868390
>le association crime
>using politics for ego boosting
>le strawman
reddit ruined /pol/

>>80868660
Honestly as a non-American it's fucking bizarre how wound up American liberals get over voter ID

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>>80868384
>You didn't even understand the joke
But I did.

>>80868504
God you're legit retarded

>>80868660
Every country on earth with popular vote democracies has voter ID laws, that includes SJW europe

I watch Fallon when I want to LAUGH
I watch Colbert when I want to LEARN
#NotMyPresident #Thisisnotnormal

>>80868699

it's because democrats rely on illegals to win, anon.

they are the border jumping party after all.

So..the libtards watch tv in 2017 and only libtards watch Colbert. Normal people don't care about talk shows.

>>80868699
It's hilarious.
American lefties have euro envy like motherfuckers.
Almost every country they say we should be more like usually also has a lower corporate tax rate and vote id laws. When you point this out, you see sparks coming out their ears.

>>80867008

The problem with Obama is that he's not funny. Once the fact he has a darker than average skin color wears off, he oscillates between being an average nondescript dude and the o-bomber who turns sand people country into rubble and has the legal right to murder you on the possibility that you are a terrorist.

>>80868731

Dems don't want 70% of Cali's votes to be nullified though.

It's a case of suffering the consequences of putting all your eggs in one basket.

>>80868819
>The problem with Obama is that he's not funny

Every politician's funny, the Left just never bothered with it because "only a racist wouldn't have a creepily fetishistic worship of the First Black President"

>liberals are happy obamacare lite got rejected

liberals dont realize the new bill is going to fuck them up the ass

you'll see

>>80868831
They'll never be able to amend the constitution again anyway.
The Right is rapidly shifting from a garden variety conservative/centrist party to a nationalist, populist hard right pro white party. Trump has years and years to bury the people standing in his way, and this country has always had a more conservative tinge than liberal

>>80868660

That's a very good question. Surely they wouldn't oppose to making it easily verifiable that every vote registered came from a different individual and/or American citizen unless they're... cheating?

>>80868983
Well, aren't the repub like 10 senator away from constitution altering level of power, and 2018 is MOSTLY dem going to the chopping blocks?

Not the biggest fan of trump, but seeing the colective clench of the liberals would be worth it

>>80868905
They are already fucking themselves in the ass. Obama judges slapping down his travel bans for example when nearly full control of immigration is in the hands of the executive, as per the constitution. It would have been much better to just keep the protests up, now Trump has ammo to hit activist judges.
I also cannot remember the last time a supreme court nominee appointment was filibustered. The dems are wasting political capitol they don't have and Trump has 4 more years of pain to reign down on them

>>80869096
Especially since Gorsuch is easily one of the most qualified and well spoken Trump could choose, Watching the hearings, and absolutely, 100% schooled all the poor demo retards that were sent to him. Franken was a pompous douche who ridiculled himself, and Mazi Hirono proved without a doubt that Hawaii is the retard state for electing her.

If they filibuster him, they can nuclear and it certainly wont be much of a blow to trump seeing as Gorsuch is a good choice.

Then, if trump appoint another justice (fucking die already, gunsburg) and they filibuster it, he can simply say Check, the democrats are a bunch of asshat, and pass even a far more right justice than gorsuch.

>>80869185
Fuckign god damn hell, Gorsuch was voted in 100-0 by fuckign Hillary and Biden in 2006. Imbeciles

>>80869096
They legitimately think Trump is only weeks away from being impeached or something.
The dems are retarded for playing like 60% of their cards already.

>>80862907
I still don't know how james corden got a gig as a late night american chat show host
how the fuck did that happen?

>>80869088
Economy is doing pretty damned fucking good right now to start predicting 2018 for the dems.
They are expending all of their political capitol now as hard as they can and he's just 3 months into office.

Like I said earlier can you remember the last time a filibuster was actively carried out against a supreme court nominee? Because the dems are doing it. I mean ffs Kagan and Sotomayor got hard questioning but Ted fucking Cruz didn't get up there and filibuster the whole thing because he was pissy that a nigger was in the white house.

And the judges thing is over the top and all it's going to do is bring forth untold amounts of ire on the dems.

At the end of the day people with money in their pocket are going to vote for status quo or more of the same, ie more republicans.
Trumps primary concern is rightfully the economy, it and infrastructure are the most important issues bar none and both have tangible rewards that people can take to the bank

trump is revitalizing comedy

finally we have a real president again

>>80863599
Wow Chapelle has gray hairs up the ass on his face now

>>80869249
>Economy is doing pretty damned fucking good right now
This is what is going to fuck the dems if they don't play their cards right.
Any american who has any sort of investments is doing pretty well right now. Old people with their eye on retirement are going to vote for whatever keeps their funds nice and happy.

>>80869218
They pushed it too hard. They convinced the dumb lefties to believe there truly was Russia under it all.

Now, the MSM has to feed them more Russia stories, and any attempt from them to say ''guys, maybe there was no actual russian interference'' those retard would just see it as a betrayal and cut them off.

>>80863165
>polls meaning anything
https://youtu.be/OjNgm7TgsgA?t=283

>>80868319
trump simply approved it, it was entirely planned by obama's administration.

>>80869249
>They are expending all of their political capitol now as hard as they can
Elaborate. They can keep doing this till 2018

>>80869218
New cards are being dealt every day with Trump.

>>80869218
>60%
Try 90%

There is little ground these judges stand on to begin with. This shit is going to the supreme court, it will be fastracked faster than fuck when Gorsuch makes it in. It would have been better to keep protesting at airports because stopping the revised travel ban is tantamount to political suicide.
The Supreme Court is watching and it does not like what it sees, the Congress and Senate are watching and they don't like what they see, the Executive is fuming.
The Judicial branch will come under a review the likes of which we have not seen in our lifetimes. Everything involving the appointment of judges to the (lifelong) retention of judges will come into question. Shit not explicitly writ in the constitution, like federal district court judges will come into play.

>>80869249
Did you mean for the repub?, if so i agree.

Especially since Trump can go hard on immigration, and it's a subject where he wins, easily. Outside sanctuary cities/Cali/New York it get's him vote, and none of those would have voted for a repub anyway. If he paces his card well trump could have FULL power in 2018

Hell, if Nunes/Mongomery stuff come forward and proves that surveillance was ordered by O, it would break the wings of the left right now

>>80863955
Because Bush wasn't, dare I say it...our guy

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>>80862907
A gift from heaven

>>80869465
FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS

>>80869337
The funniest thing about Russia is if Putin's party, United Russia, loses the majority it has, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the second largest party in Russia and Russia becomes a de facto communist state again

>>80869375
Normal people will get tired of random protestations and march for whatever fuckign reasons. Vast majority just want to go home and fuckign hate whatever will disrupt routine, disrupt their commune, etc.

Muslim ban is much more popular than it seems. People can't say it due to leftard screeching, but people are waking up to what a fuckign shitheap Islam is. And, again, they are voters he never had nor would ever get.

>>80866889
John Stewart has been critical against Obama before, largely against his drone strikes. It wasn't unheard of at all.

>Colbert Report only took off cause it mocked Republicans
>Tonight Show only revitalized cause Trump is in office and he has new material in his comfort zone

You'd think he'd be a little grateful

The perspectives here are fucking laughable.

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Things are really going great for Trump and his comrades

Alex Jones pissing his pants:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgE2rbrqQoI

>>80869491
it is.

Unless you think that Hillary has 96% chance to win

It's incredibly easy to fudge a poll, either by choosing your sample or leading the questions.

>>80868632
So a strong man executes poorly made military missions?

>>80869374
and? Obama didn't execute the order for a reason and Trump's still the one who thought it was a smart idea to pull the trigger. It's still his fault.

>>80863165

>>80863165

>I don't fucking understand what Oliver was trying to do with this inane shit. Of all the things to make fun of Trump over, why this?

Yeah. I'm about as leftist as they come, but the second I see/hear that stupid name, I'm compelled to disregard anything that follows. There are innumerable real issues to criticize, absurdities to laugh at, but they're gonna run with this "1980s middle school bully desperately looking for any barb to sling and feeling smug for coming up with a dumb nickname to chant on the bus" thing.

>>80869608
its a bit hypocritical to get up trumps ass about that when obama waged a proxy war with russia for 5+ years and there wasnt a peep about it

>>80869375
>MSM consumption at an all time low
>Economy better than it has been in years

The money in my pocket is more important than the ideas in your head - said every American ever.

People with jobs, money and prospects are going to go out of their way to maintain that status quo
People who grew up with no jobs, money or prospects and who now have them will downright kill someone trying to fuck that up.

Tangible economic gains benefit everyone except the worthless, and the worthless only make up a small part of the voter base

>>80869581
No it isn't, approval ratings have been pretty accepted for a long time. There's a world of difference between an approval rating and a prediction of who will win the election.

>>80869653
Obama dindu nuffin. He was a good boy. Was gonna go to college. Get a job. Went to church all the time

>>80869527
The criticism leveled against Obama by the supposedly centrist MSM was few and far between.
There was alot more to rightfully criticize Obama for besides his drone toys

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>>80869581
No poll directly measures chances to win. They measure voter intent.

The national polls were accurate within the error margins. But i am sure it is too easy to mislead people on a question of whether they approve of DJT presidency or not.

>>80869581
In presidential elections an error of 2-3% polling can mean the difference between victory and defeat. In popularity numbers it is just that. A small error.

Now you're left claiming that the popularity numbers have a 10% error in them for some reason.

>>80869742
>>80869671

You fuckis really didn't learn. Guess we gotta wait for 2018 since you refuse to see the proof of you own eyes.

>>80869805
more like
>polling is grossly inaccurate on election
>suddenly its gospel for measuring approval though

trump is political dynamite though so of course hes not in there to make nice

>>80869608
The president doesn't have the operational control over missions you think he has. The most he would do for an op like that is give the green light. He doesn't execute anything and any deliberate plans he gets well before the execution of an operation are kept vague and brief because operational security is paramount and that shit passes through too many lines of communication from SOCOM to the Prez's desk.
More intricate details, or hell even the entire mission, aren't given to president until the unit is on station.

One reason why Obama preferred Drones so much is because there is a greater degree of strategic control (ie at the presidential level) over a drone. A president can watch a drone feed, he can talk to the drone operator, he can even sit there and ask him to adjust the target ffs.

A Commando/SEAL raid is an entirely different story. You say go, if you are even given a chance to at all (you won't if it's a designated warzone in a country we are at war with), and the rest is out of your hands

>>80869653
True, but trying to deflect and blame Obama for an operating that Trump executed is beyond logical.

>>80869740
He got off easy because he was black and charming. He was also fucking horrible for transparency and lied a fuckton about what he'd do in office.

>>80869855
>state a factual poi the
>"lol nice try cuck but I'm going to ignore those points and just call you a loser :)"

Not an argument, friend. Neither Trump or Obama will be seen as good presidents. Granted people are being super critical on Trump, but he does have a lot of power to work with.

>>80869968
We can't predict how Trump will be seen yet, it's only month 3.

Liberals were almost as fucking furious as this when Reagan stole the presidency out from under Carters useless ass. Obv. Reagan is far from perfect but he was a better prez than the yokel before him and the 3 clowns after him

>>80870066
Correction 4 clowns

>>80869924
Obama preferred drones because they minimized US soldier deaths and made him look better, he also changed what counted as a civilian to make his dronings look better too.

Still, at the end of the day Trump thought the operation was a good idea and it yielded nothing good.

>>80865555

The more he makes good on promises, the more the hysteria will grow.

>>80870066
Reagan was pretty horrible and the right deifies him, so "how he's seen" is kind of an irrelevant term overall.

>Bush
>Clinton
>Bush
>intercession
>almost got another clinton

Can we just thank Obama and Trump for destroying the last vestiges of hereditary presidential ascension?

>Jeb wont get it
>Jebs son wont get it
>Other Bush bro won't get it
>Hillary wont get it
>Chelsea won't get it

Both the Bushes and Clintons have fuck else that can stand a chance at the presidency. I'm fairly certain these two families will go the way of the Roosevelts now and fuck off forever

>>80870175
yes i think most people do not want political dynasties. watch out for trumps kids cause i dont think they're going away anytime soon.

>>80869504
>>80869664

I don't think normal people will get bothered by democrats stalling government and their legislative nonsense, especially when it doesn't affect them that much. I mean the Republicans shut down the government once and people still voted for them

>>80870216
>trust fund kids becoming president

Ivanka might stand a chance, everyone else would get laughed off the stage.

>>80870175
That's also a major factor as to why Clinton lost. She only got that far because of her husband anyways.

>>80870132
The old reaganites are rightfully a dying breed. The neocon cuckasaurus rex will be extinct by 2020.

Reagan had lots of good and lots of bad.
I'm hard right and even I don't deny it.
The fact that he was a better president than Carter, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama isn't anything special.
I think Gerald Ford and Nixon were better presidents than Reagan for example.
And IMO I really think Bill Clinton was just about on par with Reagan in terms of presidencies.
I despise him for NAFTA but my bias is political. Bill Clinton was the best democratic president post JFK

>>80870265
>eccentric billionaire real estate tycoon becoming president

its all about the message

>>80870216
I got my eye on Ivanka and I don't necessarily like what I see. She has political aspirations beyond her brothers, who are more concerned with what personally effects them politically and are much more concerned with the business.
I don't care if they want a swing at the house, the senate, or even a governorship. I just don't like the idea of them forming another dynasty in the oval

>>80870265
Ivanka could try in the 2020's but odds are the right is going to be a lot more hard right at that time, even outright anti feminist. She won't get nominated, she'll be too centrist

>>80870351
Trump won because he wasn't the establishment, but his kids will be establishment once his presidency is over. Plus, it's likely that he'll win 2 terms and then the country will swing center left. That shits been happening for 100 years or so.

>>80870495
I doubt that, the right is always happy to push a black or a woman who touts their message.

>>80870101
And then tried to shield himself by saying you can't criticize him or the operation because an US soldier died and that makes it tremendously disrespectful. Despite a former POW, and the chairman of the Arms Services committee, i.e. McCain, being one of the most vocal people criticizing the White House.

>>80870101
>Which is disingenuous

First Trump literally had just taken office, and he gave the go ahead on a mission the military was putting forward.

Not every mission is based on the same intel, your putting it forward as if blowing away everything with drones would have been a better option.

Obama had 90 percent civilian casualties because of drone strikes. I get that sevice mens lives matter, but you have to have a balance between blowing people away from 30 miles away with impunity, and being determines enough to take risks for bigger rewards and lower collateral.

>>80870827
I agree with you, I'm just saying that saying Trump is free of guilt here is silly at best.

>>80870734
McCain is a faggot though

literally the establishment everyone voted trump in to get rid of

>>80863205
>showbiz kikes making mad shekels on lefty butthurt
not bad, shlomo

>>80870827

Non-American civilians. Unskilled non-American civilians who cost less than one 10th of a SEAL to produce and maintain over their operational service life. Unless Switzerland suddenly gains the manpower and capability to arrest nations for breaking their pretend laws, it just makes economic sense to be risking them over losing ground troops doing things the conventional way.

>>80863118
But Jimmy was never funny.