Just finished with this. Beautifully directed film. I need to

>Question though, do you guys think the graphic sex scenes were necessary?

Graphic sex is never necessary, it's just lazy directing. A far more effective and dignified way to handle it is have it happening off screen and make the audience imagine what's happening through sound. People's minds are fucked and bringing their attention to it is good directing.

got a boner many times watching this

does the gook in white show her tits?

>>80831759

I'm in a weird place about it because the idea intrigues me in a purely theoretical way concerning the weight we've given sexuality and how that colors the artistic value it might have. Because on some level I agree with you it feels unnecessary and that it kinda pulls you out of it but I wonder how much of that is because sex is taboo and the only place you see this is in porn. I admire the pursuit of bringing art and beauty back to sex though I don't know if it's a success.

>>80831689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYX5NwOvjw
I think they went on too long, but you could technically leave them in there if you'd just whittle them down to like 20-30 seconds

>>80831787
Ye

Gets her pussy eaten out too, plus some scissoring.

It's a fucking fantastic film beyond the sex, too.

>>80831689
Absolutely they were necessary. One of the deeper points of the movie was about pornography and/or lust and how it relates to "real" human interaction.

The triplicate mirror during their extended sex scene (the second, longer time you see it) where you can see both of the women in the side panels but a clear gap between them was a great representation of the deception going on between them.

The fact that the "brilliant" con man was deceived and ultimately killed because he was unable to see through a very obvious ruse because of it's sexual connotations (when combined with the fantasy BDSM scene) shows how willing we are to associate lust and our expectations with reality, especially when pornography is involved.

The movie wasn't entirely anti-sexual though. The the symbolism of the bells, once a representation of her oppression by her perverted uncle, becoming a means for her sexual self-fulfillment in the last scene was moving and redemptive.

What did you think the movie was about?

>>80831759
I think the use of graphic sex to portray the voracity and obsession, and further decadence and repetitiveness, of the subject matter in Oshima's In the Realm of the Senses to be fantastic directing.

>>80832995
i think that you are a faggot

>>80831759
What did you think of the scene that was playing on this exact concept? The night of the honeymoon where there was implied sex through noise but the reality was drastically different?

Wasn't the entire point of that to show that the depiction of the intimate sex scenes was necessary? That mere lewdness (like her reading the pornographic material while making eyes with the men watching on) can't be trusted to contain anything real?

>>80833507
Nice.

>>80833599

this