Why isn't this a movie yet?

why aren't you?

>>80809885

It's called Malificent

Turns out that the Wicked Witch of the West was a good person all along, just misunderstood and manipulated by the Tin Man who is the true villain.

>>80809885
bbecause not everything belongs on the silver screen. retards like you ruining movies.
"HURR I SAW THIS IN X NOW I WANNA WATCH IT ON Y" if something is actually good just appreciate it as is faggot.

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You're in luck OP

>>80809885

because of who owns the film rights to L. frank buam characters

>>80810152
They are actually in the pubic domain.

>>80810194
>>80810152
Yeah, that's right. I said pubic. Fight me.

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>>80809885
because they haven't cast the two best choices yet.

I unironically want to watch this play

They want people to keep going to the stage show.

is it true there is lesbian action in this flick?

>>80810430
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmspv5_wicked-part-1-16-subtitles-eng-spa_shortfilms

>>80810229
pubic domain is a good way to refer to a porn parody

>>80810521
hahaha that's got to be the worst camrip of anything I've ever seen online.

id prefer them in the broadway show instead starring in a movie..

>>80810229

Yes, you're correct. I kind of misspoke. The film characters are their own thing. you have differentiate new film characters from the old film characters. Wicked uses a lot borrowed from the movie as well as the book....as well as original material.

WB still fights people over Oz stuff all the time. You can write a book or make all kinds of various wizard of oz things. The film depiction of the characters are still held tightly by WB. They try to fight merchandise based on other oz properties all the time.

Disney really fucking played a game of chicken with "Oz the great and powerful". Like making the witch green was something done in 1939 cause they were paying assloads for color film they thought, what else can we do that will make things pop? Same with the shoes being red. WB has tried very hard to maintain a green witch and red shoes is their thing. The book the witch isn't green and the shoes are silver. Disney had major balls to make the wicked witch green but made sure she was a different shade....it's fucking nuts.

This shit gets crazy all time, because original Judy Garland Oz makes WB tons of money. I think they lose the rights in like 15-20 years.

>>80811062
holy shit calm down.

>>80811091
>doesn't care about the interesting film history of wizard oz

Im calm bro, just mansplaining some shit.

>>80810395
>unironically
Why would you watch Wicked ironically? It's a great show.

>>80811361

stageplay is for broken women

>>80811062

Huh. INteresting.

>>80811416
spotted the pleb

>>80811062
>Wicked uses a lot borrowed from the movie as well as the book

What does the musical use from the movie, aside from the witch being green?

Because Universal owns the rights and wants to wait until enough time has passed that Oz the Great and Powerful's shitty shitty shittyness has faded from memory.

Although here's hoping they bring the musical back to what it was when it first opened and not the god-awful schtick it's become at times. I hate what some of the actress, especially the Glinda actresses, have done to the characters.

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Because everyone was too busy sucking Trey and Matt's cocks when The Book Of Mormon first came out followed by everyone being too busy sucking Tim Minchin's cock when the Matilda musical first came out and now everyone is busy sucking Lin Manuel Miranda's cock to get him to make a Hamilton movie now that it's the big musical out now.

Where's my Matilda and Hamilton musical movies, Hollywood?

I wanna see Benedict Cumberbatch in drag ias Trunchbull, goddamnit.

>>80812864
Just a reminder that Matilda lost to Kinky Boots.

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>>80812915
I haven't kept up with the Tony's for a long time and I just watched Matilda about a week ago.

Now that I saw Matilda, all I have to say is are you fucking serious?

>>80813022
now try listening to the Kinky Boots OBC

something went seriously wrong.

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>>80812915
Also, obligatory

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>>80813078
Listened to some bits and pieces of the OBC then watched the Tony's performance of Everybody Say Yeah.

Did the Tony's just lost all credibility back then?

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>>80813095
Also obligatory

>>80812864
>see Matilda on tour with low expectations because of very mixed reviews of the tour thus far
>blown away by everything
>When I Grow Up starts
>start crying

jesus.

I mean, I also cried during Aladdin: the Musical (A Whole New World was too magical to see in person, I couldn't take it) but still.

>>80813252
It's unusual for foreign-born musicals to win at the Tonys. Not impossible, but, unusual.

>>80813421
The kid who played as Bruce when I saw it last week looked like he was almost out of breath during "Revolting Children", but that's a minor nitpick since the entire cast of kids and their performances are impressive enough to make me think "wow, what the fuck am I doing with my life?"

>>80813568
Are you in New York? Let's touch weiners. But don't cum, that's gay.

>>80813641
Saw it on tour

Also, agree with this? >>80813095

>>80813674
Huh, I didn't even realize it was touring. And yeah, that's about right

>>80809885
theater is fucking GAY

>>80813728
I'm hoping to see Something Rotten next

Musical is succesful enough they can still milk it in Broadway.
Chicago started in 1975 and only got a movie in 2002.

>>80813826
It's pretty fantastic. I saw it just before it closed on Broadway.

>>80813795
only because straight musicals aren't good.

>>80813853
Chicago closed for like 20 something years before the revival in the 90s. It was the revival that led to the movie, but that was during the brief mid 2000s musical kick.

...Actually that may be the thing that started that trend, I don't remember.

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>>80813421
>tfw I cried over a musical number that just consists of kids and adults on swings
Goddamn, this musical is based

I thought Matilda was a bit dull

I struggled to get into it because the girl playing Matilda had the WORST fucking attempt at an English accent (I'm a Bong)

>>80814310
you watched it in NY? the UK production is still going strong.

>>80814386
Yeah, I got a cheap ticket for it. I saw it after seeing Les Miserables, so that made it seem a bit less special.

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Only musical I ever saw was Jersey Boys because my brother bought a ticket for him and his gf but they split up before going to see it so I went in her place

>>80814716
how was the sex?

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The Anastasia previews start tonight. It's apparently selling very well, I guess the earlier publicity didn't negatively affect it.

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>tfw Hamilton might sell out before tickets go on sale to the public (read: people who didn't spend $2k on a broadway season pass)
>tfw the scalpers are going to sell it for $800 for the cheap seats on top

>>80814915
Tour, I'm assuming? Try the lottery every chance you get.

>>80814915
Hamilton is a meme musical anyways

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>>80814802
why would early publicity negatively affect something?

Flaherty's score is really underappreciated and anything with Ramin Karimloo deserves to sell like hotcakes tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmYWdz75JY

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>>80814983
Not in NY

what's it about is it just a sexy wizard of oz

>>80815248
>ouya
kek. Legally Blonde is dumb fun and totally not deserving of that label tbqh. replace it with Carrie or something inane.

>>80815361
yeah there's lots of interracial/blonde bimbo action and by action I just mean singing. lots of singing.

>>80815439
You agree with everything else though?

>>80812864

Where exactly does Heathers: The Musical fit into this?

>>80815011
>why would early publicity negatively affect something?

Oh oops I didn't finish that thought. The early publicity regarding the lawsuit that the show is currently fighting.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marchershberg/2016/12/21/lawsuit-threatens-anastasias-broadway-debut/#ef6020f3cfe8

I know it's Forbes but it explains the lawsuit better than the articles on Broadway sites. Last I heard, a judge denied the producers motion for dismissal and the case is pending.

Seeing as the show is going forward, I'm guessing that the producers are confident their lawyer can pull this off, or they plan on paying the estate holder and settling.

FWIW, having read the original play and watched the 2 films and watched a bootleg of the Anastasia show, I think the estate holder morally is doing the right thing but legally they will probably get away with it because unfortunately, technically, the execution of the elements which are directly from the play is different in the new show and therefore not violating copyright. Even if the new musical would not exist without that original play.

I still think it is really scummy that they are acting like the new show has noooo connection whatsoever to the original play,. They went so far as to literally snub the play in a big advertisement poster outside the show's theater, which lists the historical and film origins of the new show but conveniently leaves out that the '56 and '97 films are licensed adaptations of this play.

>>80814802
>That Once Upon a December audio on their Facebook

I'm dead

why can't I get to New York to see this

>>80814310
Was it someone from the OBC?

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>>80809965
>Tin Man who is the true villain
>not the Wizard

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>>80811062
>The book the witch isn't green

not true.

>Melena is at some point approached by a mysterious stranger, who gives her a potion called "Miracle Elixir" from a green bottle. The elixir turns out to be some sort of drug; the stranger then rapes Melena. Nine months later, Elphaba is born, a girl and not what was expected, green with envy for a mother's love.

You're right about the silver shoes though, as they were in the original Wizard of Oz novel

>>80812386
the flying monkeys and ruby slippers, and the witches of East and West being sisters (they weren't in the Baum books), the yellow brick road

>>80812645
>I hate what some of the actress, especially the Glinda actresses, have done to the characters.

like what? how else has it become god-awful schtick compared to its origins?

>>80817706
They're talking about the original Wizard of Oz book. In the original Wizard of Oz book, the Wicked Witch of the West isn't green.

In the Wicked book, the shoes are originally silver with clear glass beads which reflect different colors (including "ruby red," wink wink readers) after Glinda used her magic on them so that Nessa could walk.

>>80818155
ah, my bad

>>80814802
In the Dark of the Night video fucking when

>>80815547
>Where exactly does Heathers: The Musical fit into this?

Leagues higher than any of the shows in that picture

>>80818457
off broadway contrarian posting is the worst kind of posting

>>80817904
The way that Kristen Chenoweth originally played Galinda/Glinda, and how the role was written, was: Glinda an wealthy, upper class snob at university. Her only "silliness" was during a single scene at the end of a crazy party where she suddenly makes a great friend out of her former enemy at school and does some giddy, silly things during the song out of excitement and probably spiked punch. When she becomes Glinda, she is more mature but torn between her desire for fame and greatness and her loyalty to her friend, eventually she rises to the occasion and does what's best for Oz, yadda yadda. T

Later actresses, and I'm particularly blaming Megan Hilty, Kendra Kassebaum, and Annaleigh Ashford for this, turned Glinda into a complete and utter spaz. They would have her giggling and twitching her head back and forth and kicking up her legs and making weird noises from Galinda's entrance in Act I throughout the whole act. Like the character couldn't just say "excuse me, Miss Morrible!" but she has to go "Oooooouuuuuuuuuoooooooooooo....... Miss Morrible!" to be zany and qurky.

You would have no idea why she's popular because any sane students would label her retarded and steer clear. and god, sometimes even through Act II they'd have her acting like a bubbly idiotic ditz with Tourette's. Populars became bizarre displays of "how far can I take this shit" where they'd do crazier and crazier things like attempts at handstands, doing the "excited jumping in front of shoes" for an excessively long time, doing the splits, ad-libbing all sorts of gestures and words ("Sparkles~~!") and generally acting spastic to get laughs and applause. It's almost like they looked at the bootleg of Chenoweth's last Popular, where she did some special ad-libs, and decided to play the character that way even though Chenoweth was clearly just adding silliness because it was her last day.

>>80818317
Never, because the show cut the supernatural elements and brought the story back to quasi-historical roots. The villain is a communist official who is tasked with hunting Anya down, and if she's Anastasia, shooting her in the end. Or if she's not, bringing her back to Russia to be made an example of.

They do use In the Dark of the Night throughout the show as a motif, sometimes in the instrumentals during the darker and/or communist scenes, as well as in a truly beautiful and gorgeous refrain in song sung by aristocratic and academic Russians fleeing the country. These Russians are all later executed on the train.

>>80818457
I doubt that musical would be higher than Matilda, Book Of Mormon or Hamilton.

That musical is getting Hamilton levels of hype.

>>80812864
Dream cast besides Cumberbatch in drag

Russell Brand as Rudolfo
Mara Wilson as Miss Honey
Peter Dinklage in a cameo playing Zeke, the dwarf circus freak who can fold paper hats with his mind

>>80818685
2/2

I wish that big Wicked forum didn't go under because there were screencaps on there from some ensemble actress's Facebook pages where they hinted at big "shakedown" from the show's main producers who went to the various productions and basically told the Glinda actresses to cut that shit out because it was compromising the integrity of the show. These actresses toned it down but later actresses still take cues from them. It's not as bad as it was before but it's still come a long way.

>>80818685
>>80818767
thanks for all that info

>>80818767
sounds like the kind of shit that would still be up at the Broadway World forums:

http://www.broadwayworld.com/board/

they have some really infamous threads archived from the late nineties, back when broadway fans were a much bitchier and cloistered group.

post-Wicked, Broadway mainstreamified itself which replaced all those snobbish nitpickers with teenage girls, for better and for worse lol.

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>Been working on a Wizard of Oz adaptation for a few years
>If I go through with it it'll just be called a Wicked ripoff because The Witch is a main character and The Wizard is the villain

>>80819008
you compose music? the story can be as generic as they come as long as the music is good.

>>80818991
I'm not sure if it would be there but I'll search. This was at the Witches of Oz forums. I think those are back up, but the original forums were nuked years ago and soooo much Wicked insider drama was lost.

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>>80818991
>mainstreamified

>>80819008
>a few years
the book is 22 years old, so yeah I'd say you're late

>>80818317
I hope they do that in some shape or form

>>80819008
Emerald City did just that and I don't see anyone calling it a Wicked rip-off on any wide scale.

Just make sure that your story differentiates from Wicked enough.

>>80819008
it better be a porn, for some reason we only got one half assed oz porn parody and thats its, I was expecting a few to have been made but it seems like this wholesome classic is to pure for porn

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where does this fall in the canon?

>>80819065
My adaptation isn't a musical, though I kind of do want there to be a number sung by the Flying Monkeys.

>>80819388
Even if I can somehow escape Wicked comparisons, people are going to say I ripped off Wreck-It Ralph.
My adaptation unintentionally is almost the exact same story as Wreck-It Ralph.

>>80819575
I actually had ideas for a porn parody, The Wizard of Oz lends itself perfectly to porn (just look at the set up), yet there's no good material.
I decided to do something more serious though.

>>80819714
I rather here your ideas for a porn parody if your willing to share.

the only thing I can say about the one porn they did make was that they did have a munchkin getting fucked, by one of the witches guards for some fucking reason in munchkin land but they had the balls to include a munchkin

>>80819808
was the munchkin played by a dwarf?

In Wicked, the munchkins are basically just manlets/womanlets.

Why not hire a short petite porn girl for the munchkin role?

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>>80819926
>suddenly, flashbacks to that one scene in the first book
>you know the one

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>>80819926
yes it was shit but again they had the balls to include it, so props for that.

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>>80820065
>not even a cute dwarf

>>80820160
they did not even go for real costumes they literally bought the sexy farm girl costume you get from the costume store for 20 bucks you think they were gonna try for the midget scene they knew everyone was gonna skip

Have they announced any casting for the movie yet?

who's /defyinggravity/ here?

>>80819808
I don't remember my ideas for porn.

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>>80809885
David Cronenberg needed to make this five years ago with Sarah Gadon as Glenda and Eva Green as Elphaba and NC-17.

>>80813853
Yes and no.

Wicked doesn't have a movie for one reason alone: the musical is still profitable on stage/Broadway.

They do a movie, then ticket sales will stagnate and finally drop off.

A better example than Chicago would be Rent; it was obscenely successful for so long, that it was why it took so long for a Rent movie to be made.

As for Chicago, it didn't get made into a movie until 2002; because of a combination of rights issues and the fact that musicals became persona non-grata for the bulk of the 1980s and 1990s. The later is the biggest reasons. Traditional musicals were a dead genre for a huge period of time, to the point that Disney and their films were the only ones being made that made a profit.

>>80810337
GET TO FUCK YOU RETARD!!!

>>80811062
>I think they lose the rights in like 15-20 years.
They'll lose the rights on January 1st, 2035, assuming there isn't another retroactive copyright extension before then.

>>80820642
btw, what killed the Hollywood musical? Were there any specific high profile flops or did they just realize Star Wars style blockbusters were more profitable?

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"And there the wicked old Witch stayed for a good long time."

"And did she ever come out?"

"Not yet."

>>80818685
You could make a case that actresses opted to play Glinda as a spastic super-silly type as a counter to the whole lesbian subtext/fandom projects upon her and the Wicked Witch.

When your options are lezzing up the role and acting like a spastic retard, most actresses will pick the later because it's the safer option

>>80820717
Mickey Mouse is in 7 years so there will probably be a new law soon.

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>>80809885
>plebs don't realize this was a book before it was a gay musical

>>80820662
what did he mean by this?

>>80820757
I mean, you could, except it's pretty obvious they hammed it up because it got laughs and applause, thus more energy, from the audience. Spastic Glindas tended to be more touchy feely and personal bubble popping anyway.

>>80820755
In her cell, Glinda woke up with a start … Her glasses had broken a year ago. She didn’t need them anymore, not really. She knew who was turning the door handle of her cell. She called her name sleepily, and added, “You wicked thing. You’ve taken your own sweet time, of course.”

>>80820730
they were never really unpopular. there were memorable musicals every decade, especially in the 80s when musical films and mainstream teen films that appropriated pop music crossed over (Flashdance, Dirty Dancing, Fame etc.)

I guess they fell out of fashion in the 90s and 00s because there weren't many good Broadway shows during that time and the Disney renaissance happened.

>>80820730
The musicals died not because of Star Wars but a slow and steady death, largely the same way Westerns and Swords and Sandal films died off.

Part of the problem was that popular music changed and changed fast, so musicals became passe with the younger folk and attempts to do rock and roll musicals were severely hit and miss and usually relegated to cult hit that barely turned a profit and eve then, were only seen in arthouses or grindhouse/B-Movie centric theaters. Only a rare few actually broke into the mainstream (Hard Days Night/Rocky Horror Picture Show) but they were guilty pleasures and pissed off the Musical snob crowd.

But the biggest thing was the fact that Hollywood just could not make the musical work: they almost always had HUGE budgets, were period pieces, or featured stars long past their prime, or were adaptations no one gave a shit about. Even Barbara Streisand was not immune; Hello Dolly was such a huge flop that the decision to release it on home video as one of the very first VHS tapes, was motivated largely because the studio desperately wanted it to make money so they could take the loss off their books.

But in the end, it was high profile rock/disco stuff like The Apple and sentimental cash grab stuff like 1776, that put the stake in the heart of the beast.

It took Moulan Rogue and Chicago coming out in rapid succession for the genre to revive itself in the end

>>80820777
I don't know about that. Even when Steamboat Willie enters the public domain, that doesn't mean people will be able to use Mickey Mouse however they want. He's still trademarked by Disney. Given that people are more conscious about the public domain, and pro-public domain groups like Google have increased their lobbying power, I think it would be wise for the entertainment industry to continue gaming trademark law instead of trying to influence copyright law any longer.

>>80821024
>The Apple
worst thing I've ever seen in my entire life. 10/10 would watch again. based Golan Globus.

>>80814802
Just got out of the first preview.

Random thoughts, since I saw the show in Hartford last year:

-It was packed. didn't see a single empty seat.

-THE MUSIC BOX BROKE. During Once upon a December, too. Welp that's live theater.

-What did they do to Gleb?? New actor, new personality. He's more threatening now but what I really loved from the preview version last year was that he was sympathetic and even empathetic. Now he's just cold and cruel and then randomly... not. I miss the guy from Hartford, even if he was somewhat dorky. I guess the show really wanted a more "villainy" villain.

In the Hartford version, you really felt the turmoil in him when he was tasked with hunting down Anya and then killing Anastasia. Because genuinely liked Anya, and because he didn't want to be like his father, blindly following orders no matter who gets hurt. In this new version? It's literally just out of the blue in the confrontation scene at the end. New Gleb didn't appear conflicted at all like the original Gleb, who was crying while pointing his gun at Anastasia who is giving her rousing identity speech and walking towards him, arms spread, saying 'Shoot, shoot, let me join my family.' Bleh. I hope they fix this since it only involves adding some scenes back in.

-God, "Stay I Pray You" is gorgeous every time. Thank god they kept the original actor for that Count. You could hear the audience ripple when they realized what melody the chorus was using.

-Oh god, the 'ghost' Romanovs are still horrifying and tragic in every scene they show up in.

-Those tacky projections are still here, this is supposed to be a big budget Broadway musical. Having said this, they won't get rid of them. At least the costumes are lavish.

>>80821307
>You could hear the audience ripple when they realized what melody the chorus was using.
what fucking melody asshole

>>80820642
>Rent

movie was made and released within a decade of the stage debut. Wicked is already older than that

>>80821518
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ocm8QdNR_d8

>>80820779
literally nobody doesn't know that
there's way more demand for a musical film than a film adaptation of the novel

>>80821307
Shit, do you work in musical theater or do you just make enough money that you can go to shows all the time?

>>80821518
The "Come my minions/rise for your master/let your evil shine/Find her now/yes, fly ever faster" melody from In the Dark of the Night. Except it's used in this song that is a somber, melancholic farewell to Russia. Which is even more somber when all of the people who board the train after singing this song, except Anya/Dimitri/Vlad, are pulled off and shot in the head by communist police.

The song showed up several times throughout the evening in melody/instrumental form, which I thought was a nice nod to a great song.

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meanwhile, it's been almost 40 years, and they're finally starting to talk seriously about making a movie of Cats

cashing in on furrydom?

>>80814310
>Matilda
>Bonglish accent

Wait...Why though? Is Matilda supposed to be English in the play? She was a burger in the movie. Was the movie based on something else that they altered?

>>80821879
Cats never stopped being profitable though, right?

>>80821692
>or do you just make enough money that you can go to shows all the time?

No but, once I heard this show was getting made I have specifically saved up as much as humanely possible so I could see it in Hartford in previews, tonight on opening Broadway preview night, and I'm hoping to go back next winter to see the show too.

I have never actually gone out of my local area to see a show before, I live in the Midwest so I just see whatever comes around, but I am goddamn obsessed with this movie

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>>80822004
>Was the movie based on something else
>bitches not knowing about my Roald Dahl

>>80822117
sad!

>>80821879
Cats. Cats, Cats, Cats.

I remember the first time I watched Cats. I was sick and slightly feverish. I had rented the VHS from the local video store because my friend really liked musicals, and this was in the musical section. My mom had given me my Nyquil, tucked me into bed, and pressed play on the VCR because the remote control for the VCR didn't work. By the time I realized what I was in for, it was too late. I was too sick to get up. I was too sick to do anything but watch it.

I remember it was when Mungojerry and Rumpleteaser showed up that I started crying.

>>80822167
ah, Memories
maybe you should have gone to sleep and dreamed a dream

>>80822117
Books are for faggots and pedos and everyone knows it.

>>80812864
straight up plebbest shit ive ever seen

jesus christ kill yourself with that normie fucking taste

>>80812864
So is there ever going to be an avenue q movie?

>>80822408
Npoe

Pick one

-A Wicked musical film starring Broadway actresses which does a serviceable if bland job bringing this popular musical to the screen with gorgeous costumes, good sets, but unfortunately the rather shallow and simplistic take on the Wicked story

-A well-made, well-casted, HBO-led 4 season "The Wicked Years" mini-series with each season being an 13 episode adaptation of a book in the Wicked book series... except every single sex scene involving the Animals is kept from the books and portrayed with painstaking detail. And you have to watch every one of those scenes. You just have to.

>>80822004
I think the musical was more faithful to the book

>>80822004
Because it's an adaptation of the book, not the movie.

>>80822995
>HBO after the 2000s

absolutely unequivocally the musical, no contest

>>80810337
Britney wants to have more plastic surgery first

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>saw Wicked for the first time on stage a week ago
>mfw Defying Gravity live

made my day

>>80825993
turbo pleb

>>80809885
>into the woods

>>80825993
I don't care if it makes me sound like a total hipster, I'm just going to say it.

For Good > Defying Gravity.

>>80809885
IN SEVEN YEARS
I'll make a Mickey Mouse porn short film of him raping other characters:
Who should he rape?
It has to be public domain characters by that time as a big LEGAL FUCK YOU to trademarks.

>>80809885
The double dicked incestuous puppet show probably won't translate very well to film.

I think they tried to do it with Oz right? Not the same of course, I'd prefer the play adaptation

>>80822408
Doubt it

>>80825993
Same way with me and When I Grow Up from Matilda

Are you guys being ironic?


I've never seen Wicked but my sister and Mom did and they used to play the soundtrack all the time afterwards. The songs were terrible including one whose chorus went "Popular, I want to be pop-u-lar" and that in particular struck me as an incredibly shit song, both in theme and musically

>>80832922
Someone needs to make a tier list for Wicked like >>80813095 and >>80813284


But I'm sure Popular would definitely be in Shit Tier

>>80809885
because theatrekino should stay in a theatre and not get shit up by hollywood.