MAMORU OSHII DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GITS CASTING

>>80726769
White people should not take Asian roles.

WHAT THE FUCK DELETE THIS ASSHOLE

>>80726769
THIS JUST IN

THE GUY WHO SOLD THE RIGHTS TO GITS FOR SHEKELS DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE FRANCHISE

MORE NEWS AT 11

>>80726769
The problem is that ScarJo is a terrible actor that hit the wall years ago and doesn't fit the role even a little.

She should be white. Not Jewish.

Fuck ScarJo and jew nepotism.

>>80726769
>As always the only people crying about first world problems affecting minorities are white college students.

Millennials should all go through a genocide.

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Why would he when he already knows the biggest spoiler?

>>80726823
>THE GUY WHO SOLD THE RIGHTS TO GITS FOR SHEKELS DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE FRANCHISE
/thread

>>80726769
>this is the moment when the alt-left knew they fucked up

Ironically enough, it seems like only westerners are pissed at the whitewashing controversy

The japanese don't give a fuck about identity politics

Yeah that's a genuinely cool opinion and all but...

>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie

FUCKYOU. I don't mind them casting a caucasian actress but it should have been someone in shape who is attractive and can act. So definitely not Scarfat Johamson.

>>80726823
> Oshii had the rights for GitS

Whut. He just directed the first two movies.

>>80726769

My problem with the casting was the fact that they gave the role to a fucking cow.

Actresses do jack shit to prepare for roles, while actors will completely alter their diet and workout routine to accurately portray a role.

>>80726769

Whats her name again?

>>80727364
I could have sworn he also had the rights to the IP. Who owns the rights then? I don't know if it isn't Oshii.

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>>80726769
why NOT a asian actress?

roles for asians are so rare and limited.

Finally (!) a asian story, set in asia, comes along.... and the lead role goes to some westerner

look at pacific rim, that turned out pretty well didnt it?

paramount studioes are the same people who whitewashed The Last Airbender

>>80727333
Japs have been whitewashing themselves since anime and manga became a comercial product

>>80727483
Masamune Shirow created GITS anon...

>>80727568
are you saying that this poor oppressed asian man is wrong? SHAME ON YOU RACIST

>>80727568
I get the argument that it's more fitting for someone to look like they're from the region it's taking place in, and i tend to agree

the argument from the whiners though is that asians are "underrepresented" or some nonsense and therefore deserve the roles more than white people. it's blatant racism

Doesn't he care about ScarJo not being able to ACT?

>>80726823
Oshii doesn't have the rights of GitS. There have been plenty of other GitS anime without Oshii's participation, like Stand Alone Complex and Alternative Architecture.

>>80727674
asians are really underrepresented though, there are blacks and latinoes gets roles all the time but asians are nowhere to be seen

so why not? its not racism, its a genuine question

>>80727568
Asian actress (literally who's?) - no money
Scarlett - money
It's not hard to understand

He's not wrong.

Its a future where people can be augmented, some capable of controlling entire body shells or having their brain electronically stored in one. They can be whatever they want.

If a little slanteyed girl wants to look like the most well payed American actress on earth than can you really blame her?

>>80727620
Oh yeah I guess Shirow would have the rights huh...

Well whatever fuck you anon! Stop making me look stupid and let me just REEEE at this shitshow of a movie! I fucking love the original movie more than my child. I can say that because I don't have a child. Apparently you need a woman for that, I haven't figured out that whole process yet though.

Have any of you ever met a japanese person that didn't want to be white?

why hasn't someone said "our guy" yet?

>>80727739
star power used to be true in the past but its no longer a prerequisite for success

there are many movie hits with relatively unknown new actors (for example shia +megan for transformers)

and I dont think would be cheap to hire scarjo either

>>80727737

Are you saying Asians are unable to create their own movies?

Whitey has to do it for them?

Literally only bored white college kids care about this shit. No one outside america gives a shit, even japs themselves said that they prefer a white actor because they look more like their cartoons characters

>>80726769
When you get millions of dollars for your creation and the ones giving it to you tell you to don't screw up you must definitely wont talk shit about it.

>>80727333
Most Japs don't give a fuck about anime to start with

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>>80726769
while I do agree with him, John Wayne as Genghis Khan isn't exactly the best example of colourblind casting

Holy fuck weebs on suicide watch

>>80727737
because the concept of representation in a movie is retarded to begin with. a fictional character does not speak for you just because he or she shares your race. you didn't elect them, they were chosen from a pool of people because the person creating a piece of art thought they were the best fit. that's literally all there is to it, whiners want to pathologize the director for his choice and make it into a political issue when it isn't one

>>80726769
It doesn't change that Scarjo is a shit actress.

>>80727867
>creating their own movie

>literally an adaption of a IP made in japan

are you saying westerners cant write an original script?

>>80727737
Nobody cares about asians as a minority

>>80726898
So they are recreating the SAC season 2 scene?

>>80727977
Because they don't cry and actually work hard.
Can't wait till the Arabs cry for racism and movies will be Arabwashed

>>80726769
I agree completely but they could've chose someone better than that quickly aging chubby kike.

>>80726769
I mean Oishii based a fuck, but I was just looking for any excuse not to have to look at Scarlets ugly mug.

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>>80727912
>That feel when the best non-white characters in films are actually white people in disguise

>weebs are ok with japan taking western stuff and raping it
>get extremely defensive when westerners do the same

>>80726898

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck why did i click that (but also that's pretty cool)

>>80727964
>are you saying westerners cant write an original script?

I've seen/read quite a few this year already.

You didn't answer my question. Are you unable to?

>>80727858
Recognizable names are more important than ever.
Transformers is already a well known franchise so famous actors are less important.

GitS is not that well known among normies so it needs a famous actor to stand out.

>WHY DID THEY CAST ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR AND HIGHEST GROSSING ACTRESSES IN THE WORLD AND NOT SOME UNKNOWN JAP IN THIS EXPENSIVE BLOCKBUSTER MOVIE???

SJW stupidity never ceases to amuse me.

>John Wayne and 3/4 of the movie cast & crew got cancer because of Genghis Khan movie.

feels bad man

The Major can be white, I dont give a fuck about that.


The movie is fucked because they picked ScarJo because she fucking sucks

>>80728386
of course there are asian movies made by asians. GITS itself is a movie. Are you retarded?

just because you can do it doesnt mean people cant be upset when the result looks like shit

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>>80727418
>Actresses do jack shit to prepare for roles, while actors will completely alter their diet and workout routine to accurately portray a role.

wew

>>80727399
based jew hater

keeping it real as ever

To look at it from another angle, is there an asian actress in Hollywood atm that would have the box office draw to make the movie at least as successful as with ScarJo? It's easy to talk about ideals when it's not your money on the line.

>>80728872
>>80727739
These

>>80727420

>pork in a shell
>ghost in taco bell
>body shaped like a bell
>200 pounds feeling swell
>farts loud as 100 decibel
>android lipid cell
>belly stuck in a well
>diet plan? do tell
>weight watchers was hell
>in the fridge i dwell
>after sports i smell
>tumblr thinks I'm a bombshell
>gluttons are our clientele
>elevator instead of stairwell
>perky tits farewell"

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>>80726769

>mamoru o$$$$$$$hii

money influences people you know

regardless, fuck scarjo: it's bad casting

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>>80727418
actresses expire like milk though

A list actresses dont have the staying power of A list actors, look at Cruise/Keanu/Depp/Clooney/Leonardo, they are like 50 but still play top roles

Scarjo is one of the biggest now but her own time is almost up, her prime is already over

>>80726788
>Caucasian looking robot body
>Asian

are you fucking retarded?

>>80727355
Post a picture of yourself

>>80726769
>"What issue could there possibly be with casting her?" Oshii told IGN by e-mail. "The Major is a cyborg and her physical form is an entirely assumed one

Exactly. Anyone who has a problem with ScarJo being white:

>>80726823
Don't actually understand the first film.

>>80727568
>why NOT a asian actress?
Money.

the problem is that there are no A list asian actresses anymore, and if you're an asian american, that sucks. you're not culturally related to any asian country and you're bombarded by white and black people in all your media.

Ghost in The Shell? More like Pigs in the Blanket.

>>80729003
I'm not an actor, I don't get paid to look presentable on a big screen.

This
>>80726831
The casting is just plain bad.

>>80729065
BECAUSE YOU'RE UGLY HAHAHA

>>80728967
That's just women in general.

Monica Bellucci and Susan Sarandon are rare exceptions. Most women start losing their looks in their late twenties or early thirties and look like dried up or bloated corpses by the time they hit 40 and every year after that is just more of a horror show.

The candle that burns twice as bright only lasts half as long.

>>80729133
Post a picture of yourself

>>80728712
>cant be upset when the result looks like shit

Oh, you've seen the new movie?

Full review please

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>>80726769
Nips are notorious for being too polite and never saying what they really think because that's rude. Nips never speak ill of anyone because it's dishonorable. They're few exceptions like Akira Toriyama but he's a turboautist and he's too big so he can get away with it.

>>80729397
That's what you think he's doing? Have you actually seen the original film?

>>80726867
So, which are you, underage or over 35?

>>80729387
try taking one with a time stamp :3

>>80726769
Did they change her name, or not? The trailer said Mira

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>>80726769
>best possible casting

>>80727765
>>80726823
>>80727364
>>80727719
Masamune Sharon owns the rights to gits, he made the Manga so he gets all the licenses money.

>>80729339
>thinking it wont be mediocre and uninspiring at best when the trailers and leaked fight scenes already fail hard

go ahead and give them your $25 for the 3D ticket while you are at it

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>>80729436

>>80726769
>I can only sense a political motive from the people opposing it, and I believe artistic expression must be free from politics."

Jesus fuck, how will the west ever recover from this complete BTFO?

>>80729560
Mein fraulein

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>>80729581

>>80729581
post feet

>>80728490
>Even death can't stop Genghis Khan from killing

I never liked the cartoon. I prefer the comic.

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>>80729726
I assume you enjoyed the more laid back style of it all? Otherwise they end exactly the same way.

>>80729251
I'd say that Judi Dench has aged fine

The comic is funnier and has more tits

>>80727739
as much as I would like MOTOKO KUSANAGI to be played by a Japanese woman, this is true.

however, the idea that Scarjo pulls in any fucking money notable at all in the year 2017 is completely laughable, however in terms of pure numbers she'd objectively put more asses in seats than someone like Rinko Kikuchi.

>>80729726
>calling anime cartoons

BAKA GAIJIN, TEMAE KONO YAROU

>>80728872
If my money was on the line, I sure as fuck wouldn't be bankrolling a Ghost in the Shell movie in the first place. Let's just assume the publishers are functionally retarded here.

>>80729940
She's apparently not Motoko Kusanagi anymore. Unless I missed something

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>>80726769
"I was paid to say this"

>>80729940
It's implied that the Major's name is an alias. We don't know if she was ethnically Japanese.

>>80730063
Did you actually see the original film?

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>>80729940
Her name is irrelevant. Her ethnicity is irrelevant. That's the point of the original film.

>>80730144

Not that anon but we all saw how morose and defeated he looked in the behind scenes filming clips.

He sold out, lad. Just admit it already.

>>80730063
You faggots will deny anything.
Shirow could come out and say "fuck yeah Scarjo" and you homos will say he's paid to, he's a racist or a dumb fuck.
Christ, you retards just love to complain
But wont actually see a chink movie and support the poor ol asians.
Get your head out of your ass

>>80730253
Oh the behind the scenes crap, when he talked about how good it looked? Yeah, that was complete and utter shit. This statement?

>"What issue could there possibly be with casting her?" Oshii told IGN by e-mail. "The Major is a cyborg and her physical form is an entirely assumed one.

Completely correct. That's the point of the original film. Nothing sold out about that statement. I shouldn't have to fucking explain this to you if you understood the original film.

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>>80730144
Yes. Included SAC and the first Arise and the manga.

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>>80730327
Then you know the first statement is what the original film is all about. Why am I explaining this to you if you're such a fan, eh?

>>80728964
Fuck this design, the original movie was the best.

>>80730304
Shirow gives zero fucks ever since he lost his work. The nigga just lives off of royalties.

They should have made an Eat Man movie instead.

>>80729581
L O N D O N

>>80730344
>Why am I explaining this to you if you're such a fan, eh?
Because of this statement:
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie
Anyone would have been better than her.

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>>80730372
u wot m8

>>80726769
>I can only sense a political motive from the people opposing it, and I believe artistic expression must be free from politics.

Well said.

>>80730410
They just need to stop the GitS circlejerk. There's plenty of other stuff by Shirow that deserves love too like Appleseed and Dominion. Hell, I'd like to see some Black Magic too.

>>80730439
Oh that part? Yeah that part's shit.

>>80730315

>I have no understanding of the complex human underplay of motivations behind surface events that I see and note

Typical sperged out anime fan to be honest.

He sold out try to deal with it.

I'm glad Johanson is in this movie. I like making fun of her.

>>80730555
>Oh the behind the scenes crap, when he talked about how good it looked? Yeah, that was complete and utter shit.

Checked.

>>80726769
>>"What issue could there possibly be with casting her?" Oshii told IGN by e-mail. "The Major is a cyborg and her physical form is an entirely assumed one. The name 'Motoko Kusanagi' and her current body are not her original name and body, so there is no basis for saying that an Asian actress must portray her. Even if her original body (presuming such a thing existed) were a Japanese one, that would still apply."

Based Mamoru Oshii.. The only ones complaining about the white washing are people who have never seen the movie (or show). They dont get why it's called GHOST (spirit) in the SHELL (robotic body).

>>80726769
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie
And had a point till there, there many fitting actresses for the role that also are better actresses

>>80730592

Lmao did you just blink a few times in confusion at how to respond to this and decided to awkwardly settle on simply quoting yourself?

Why are angry anime fans such memes I swear.

Just because a guy says one thing publicly that doesn't mean that he isn't without conflict and reservations over it privately. You understand how human beings typically act in daily life, right?

Anime characters are cartoons and in the majority Japanese race is never implied.

It's like saying all western cartoon characters have to be white.

>>80730779
Why are you still talking? I already agreed with you about selling out regarding all the ass kissing he's doing this new film. Hence:

>Oh the behind the scenes crap, when he talked about how good it looked? Yeah, that was complete and utter shit.

"Yeah, that was complete and utter shit," equivalent to "yeah what a fucking sellout."

>>80730858

Wait up. You've phrased that weirdly so I misread into it.
>Yeah, that was complete and utter shit.
I thought this pertained to my statement on him.

Read that greentext of yours back to yourself; it was phrased oddly. Not my fault on that one.

>>80726898
what;s going on?

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>>80731007
We good, man.

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>>80726769

>I can only sense a political motive from the people opposing it, and I believe artistic expression must be free from politics

nice saying oshii that's why jews getting huge roles even if they do a absolute shit job at that

she's a shit actress that's just fact, comparing her to Omar Sharif or John Way is plain stupid, if anything this shows that Oshii doesn't know shit about acting

>>80727568
I'm not as liverally progressive as you, so I wouldn't be able to stand her wooden acting and broken english throughout the film.

Thought she was super kawaii too anon, but maybe I'm just too racist to sit through an entire movie with subpar line delivery.
(Next you'll say an easy fix would be to film the whole thing in japanese with an all japanese cast in which case you lose your holywood budget)

>>80727568

>whitewashed the last airbender

yeah right, that's why the palest looking nation (fire nation) was played by indians, fucking stipd

man that movie is so shit, you should never use that piece of shit for any comparisson, it's just not fair

>>80730839
Anime design (big eyes n shit) is based on a Dutch woman who traveled there some hundred years ago

>>80726769
So you guys have no problem with white characters being made black, right?

>>80726769
UMMMM

SWEETIE

JUST NO

It would be nice if people could separate the desire for more diversity in casting lead roles from bashing everything that doesn't fit pleasantly in that agenda.

Race aside, Scarjo is certainly a good choice.

>>80731255
No it isn't, it's based on Disney shit, otherwise there would be hundreds of woodcuts in that style and there aren't

>>80731328
Nah, Biel would have been better, Scarjo is sexy chubby not sexy fit.

>>80729560
this

Scarjo is just too short.

No amount of camera trickery is going to stop her looking like a dwarf.

What if shes an asian man in a white women's body? Who are you to say s(h)e cant do that? Fucking shitlords.

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>>80726769

That's just common sense.

Why are people so fucking stupid...

>>80726788
You are a fucking moron!!!FACT!!!

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>>80726769
BLOWN

THE

FUCK

OUT

BRAAAP

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>>80726769
I'm not mad about the race thing.

ScarJo just fuckin' sucks. There are a dozen women who have been named over and over on this board who were more suited for the role.

>>80731868
wtf is that thing on the right

SJW'S ARE FUCKING INSUFFERABLE FUCKING RETARDS WHO DON'T LIVE IN FUCKING REALITY AND SIMPLY REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND THAT HOLLYWOOD ISN'T GOING TO FINANCE A 125+ MILLION ADAPTATION OF A MANGA WITHOUT A LEAD ACTOR WHO HAS BOX OFFICE!!!

SO GO FUCKING CRY ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE YOU FUCKING DRIBBLING FUCKTARDS BECAUSE THE REST OF THE FUCKING WORLD DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOUR MANUFACTURED OUTRAGE DESIGNED TO DRAWN ATTENTION TO YOUR WORTHLESS FUCKING ASSES!!!FACT!!!

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>>80726769
mmmhmmm

mmmhmm

And what exactly does the creator of the series, Masamune Shirow think about the matter? You know, the guy the whose opinion we should actually give a shit about?

pic related, look very closely

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>>80726769
>John Wayne can play Genghis Kha
That was shit and everyone regreted it though

>>80731436
tho if someone made a movie based on some shit i came up with and they told me they got a top billing actor to play the lead i wouldn't complain

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>>80731979
to hell with the live action movies, when are we going to get an accurate anime adaptation of the real Motoko? SAC came closest, but even it is a world away for the Shirow GITS universe.

>>80731287
FUCK OFF NIGGER OR ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE CLOSET FAGGOT SJW KEKS WHO CRAVES BLACK DICK?!? SORRY THAT WHITES BUILT MODERN CIVILIZATION WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE WHITE PRIVILAGE!!! MAYBE IF NIGGERS WEREN'T SUB-HUMAN ANIMALS THEN THEY'RE BE ABLE TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN SUCCESSFUL CIVILIZATIONS!!! HOW ABOUT YOU CREATE YOUR OWN CHARACTERS, OH, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU FUCKING CHIMPS COULDN'T MAKE IT TO THE NEW WORLD WITHOUT BEING TRANSPORTED AS SLAVES LIKE THE WORTHLESS FUCKING PACK MULE RACE YOU ARE!!!

>>80726769
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie.

Lol. Either he got paid to say this or he's a retard.

>>80731868

Scar-Jo is too old for this role.

>>80726769
hahaha, I love the japanese
bless you Oshii

>>80732382
I think she's just too roll period

>>80726769
SJWS LITERALLY ALL DEAD

>>80731358
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titia_Bergsma

>>80726769
>>80731979
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY WITH A FRIEND OF MINE, its a fuckin' movie, at the end of the day it should revolve around how good of an actor you got/how good the director is etc.

Also Shirow drew nothing but fuckin' cheesecake and moved onto straight up porn later on in his life, im not going to assume what the guy wants but at this point who knows what he thinks about this series at this point.

Why can't we just focus on the fact the movie looks garbage?

White people get cast in anime movies all the time.

By all means "boycott" it, and by that I mean feel free to save $10 and an hour of your life not being subjected to this trash.

>>80732685
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Tezuka
>The distinctive "large eyes" style of Japanese animation was invented by Tezuka,[28] drawing inspiration from Western cartoons and animated films of the time such as Betty Boop, Mickey Mouse and other Disney movies.
Now fuck off

Pandora in the Crimson Shell is better than ghost in the shell

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>>80727912
FUN FACT:
Howard Hughes loved that movie and would watch it frequently during the Commie scare.

>>80728028
its a new plot with a mishmash of memberberries to make it seem like they are paying tribute to the series

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>>80732077
If someone was a real smart cookie they would pull Shirow out of semi-retirement to do the art concepts for a modern indie game, most likely a JRPG. If you could convince him to do it and pay him enough.

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live action adaptation when?

>>80733305
>pull Shirow out of semi-retirement
The artist known as Masamune Shirow is dead. His ghost died in his studio during the earthquake (or was it tsunami?). He's just an empty shell now.

>>80729397
>They're few exceptions like Akira Toriyama but he's a turboautist and he's too big so he can get away with it
what was his opinion on the dragon ball movie?

>>80727568

>roles for asians are so rare and limited.


What? There's an asian woman in virtually every movie now. They're the new token, like black males were in the 90's. They even put one in the new King Kong movie that's supposed to be set in the 40's or something.

What kind of fucking loser doesn't like Shirow's new stuff?

>>80733478
That's just to to appeal more to the Chinese market and has nothing to do with tokenism.

>>80733478
that's exactly what tokenism is

>>80733478
>>80733591
They literally put up money so she could be in the movie. They've been doing this for a while now.

>>80726769
I thought Oshii had completely lost it in recent years but apparently not. Now if only he'd start directing good films again.

>>80733737
Tokenism is to pretend to be progressive and inclusive to minorities.
Obviously the Chinese in China don't see themselves as minorities and aren't progressive compared to America.

>All these people thinking the japs even give a shit what Hollywood is doing
As far as they are concerned, GitS will always still exist in their original manga and anime. They get paid for it while Hollywood does whatever they want. They don't give a shit and neither should you.

Also, good job falling for the same trap as Ghostbusters where they try to shift any blame to whitewashing instead of the fact that it's poorly made and the actress was poorly cast.

>>80726769
the problem isn't that she isn't asian

the problem is that she is Scarlett, a horrible actress that is even worse in action roles, and isn't even good looking anymore to boot

>>80726769
B A S E D
Scarjo's still an awful actor, though.

>>80733802
they're a minority in the world, with a lot of money and US movies are global movies (at least blockbusters are). It's just tokenism on a bigger scale.

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>>80726769
Anyone have the ScarJo version of this?

>>80733881
She gave me an uncontrollable boner in Iron Man 2. I blame the costume/character design more than anything.

Then again I was never particularly attracted to The Major anyway.

>>80726769
Who gives a shit about what race plays what character. ScarJo is a shit actress and the movie's story looks dumb as fuck in order to pander to retarded Americans who will only see it because it has a familiar face on the cover.

>>80729560
this

Also the major's race shouldn't have been an issue in the first place. Batou explicitly points out the similarity between the major and the blonde caucasian android that they found on the side of the road in the first film.

>>80733889
They are literally the largest ethnic group in the world.

Asian mainlanders stabbing overseas asians in the back. Nothing new.

>>80734017
and still a minority in the world. or do you not know what that word means.

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>>80733901

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Hollywood is extremely wary of Asian leads after they tried to break Chow Yun-Fat into the States in the late '90s and failed miserably.

>>80733446
Toriyama tried to be polite but his autism was too big. He said the movie definitely had no relation to his creation so the fans should see it as an alternative universe. Then he praised the cast and staff and go on because that's what expected from him but the first impression was pretty clear

>>80734130
So are Whites then.
Fuck those token white actors everywhere!

>>80731979
Shirow used Penthouse and Playboy as references when he was still doing straight-up porn and horsefucking, if you think Scarlet repulses him, you're insane

WHITE PEOPLE TRIGGERED

>>80733881
This

>>80726769

he just wants to put his little dick in scarjo

>>80734229
Chow Yun-Fat is a god and hollywood and america by extension are confirmed retard

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>>80734163

>>80728733
Losing twenty pounds and "getting serious" about their zumba classes isn't terribly hard, anon. Actors do put more work into preparing for their roles. Look at Bale, Machinist to Batman. Look at the Marvel cast.

The only actress I've ever seen get serious about training and looking the part was Jessica Biel.

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>>80735623
Yeah, Scarlet really resembles a Playboy or Penthouse model.

>>80726769
No fan of the series opposes her casting. What they oppose is the trash origin story, the way she's portrayed (confused about how she is, apprehensive), and the dog shit cinematography.

The Major is a stone cold killer and high level tactical operator and when we're introduced to her she's clearly been this way for quite some time.

I don't want to see a fucking origin story, especially if it's all wirefu.

>>80731033
Kuze is a cyborg that was one of the first people to go through full cyberization, just like Kusanagi, who actually went through it first. They were both children. Later she becomes a tactical operator and he becomes an agitator representing displaced refugees around Japan and uses terrorism to make his voice heard.

Watch SAC2 for the full story, it's incredible, although I'm sure they'll butcher it in the movie.

>>80731586
It worked for Down Syndrome Jr

>>80737899
Playboy no, Penthouse yes

>>80726831
this, raceswapping/genderswapping a role doesn't work unless the actor is perfect for the role

like, imo, Idris Elba as Bond or Tilda Swinton as The Doctor.

Weebs on suicide watch.

>>80727890
No matter how many times you say, it won't come true.

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Difference between punching up and punching down. White people are over represented so it's okay to change characters away from being white to increase diversity, but going the opposite direction decreases diversity and is bad.

It's not just the offensiveness of the whitewashing. It's a clear signal that the creators of the movie didn't understand the source material. Same thing with the live-action Avatar. Avatar: The Last Airbender is not European. Its narratives and world do not come from a European tradition. There is no reason for there to be white people in that world, or at least no reason for white people to be native, instead of foreign.

Likewise, Ghost in the Shell is a profoundly Japanese anime and manga. It is a world in which Japanese people face Japanese problems in Japanese ways. It's really weird for the Major to have a European cybernetic in Japan. She's an intelligence agent and counter-terrorist operative. She would at the very least prefer not to stand out by being obviously alien beyond her prosthetics.

It's possible that GitS could have cast a white actress to play Major Motoko Kusanagi and made a movie that was consistent with the anime and manga. It's possible that the Europeans were the only ones making top-of-the-line military cybernetics. It's possible that this is a challenge for the major to overcome.

But it's not likely. And it's convincing me that the movie is a half-assed action flick made from source material that is poor action movie fodder because the studio thought it looked cool. And I really like the story of GitS, I'm going to have to take a hard pass on a movie like this.

>>80726769
>I can only sense a political motive from the people opposing it, and I believe artistic expression must be free from politics.

The people opposing it see everything as having a political motive, including the casting of ScarJo, so they would say basically the same thing.

>>80726769
>I can only sense a political motive from the people opposing it, and I believe artistic expression must be free from politics."
Someone who probably doesn't know anything about 4chan can sense /pol/ being a bunch of faggots
you guys really need to cool it with the social justice warrior shit

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It looks like a TV remote.

>>80740565
why do the guns have the unnecessary ribs on the top and bottom?
Why the red "eyes"?
Why so square?
I really don't like it compared to the original's spider tank design.

>>80726769
BTFO

>>80731979
>tfw we'll never get to see the real GITS even as an animation

>>80726823
THIS JUST IN

THE GOAL POSTS HAVE OFFICIALLY BEEN MOVED BY THE GRIEVANCE COMMUNITY

>>80740131
The Last Airbender was created by 2 white guys that met at art school on Rhode Island.

>>80740565
It's like what would happen when Apple tried to design a tank

>>80740565
why is it so flat?

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>>80740565
smeck.

I would never say a GiTS movie is unnecessary. I'm just glad they're trying. But this thing just screams Robocop 2014.

Are all these film/game design studios hiring the same "future tech" faggot designer?! Shit is getting so old.

>>80740131
>Japanese problems
Kek where in gits did you read whaling issues or your agenda shit?

I love how this place becomes the pillar of 'progressive' thinking when a white performer steals a job from a minority...

>>80726769
I hope he cares that this movie's gonna be a steaming pile of shit.

>no ones posted the GitS /ss/ gif yet

for shame /tv/

>artistic expression must be free from politics
>Hollywood is 100% politics

Oh I get it, he's just trying to motivate people to call out this shit and not really a sellout. Right?

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>>80741720
>scarjo
>white
Shh, pol is still here

>>80726769
>they told me I wasn't getting my bonus unless I told everyone how great it is that ScarJo was part of the long list of fuck ups to my manga

>>80742002
>my manga
>my
Faggot confirmed, go back to tumblr

>>80740131
The source material says that Major's body is supposed to look like a generic model robot so people don't try to abduct her off the street thinking "hey, this gal's made with high-tech government parts, we'll be rich!"
Now, if YOU were making a robot to sell to hundreds of people, how do you make it look? Like a (subjectively) hot actress who is of a race from *many* countries who are looking to buy your product, or someone from a small group that lives almost exclusively in one country?
Now I'm not saying they shouldn't have hired Hitomi Tanaka to play as the Major, but I am saying that Scar is more accurate a depiction of the major.

>>80740565
Looks like a Lotus Esprit with legs.

>>80726898
This doesnt help at all. The indentity politics crowd will still be angry.
>they think they can replace an azn poc with a white woman?!?!?!? She should have had the main role!!!!11!!

>>80740565
I think that's my internet router.

>>80742041
>like a hot actress
>90% of the posts since the announcement are just people shitting on scarlett's looks

>>80742345
SUBJECTIVELY hot. Also /tv/ is not the world at large, sad as it is to say.

>>80726769
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie
He's an idiot.

>>80741060
>why do the guns have the unnecessary ribs on the top and bottom?
Accessory rails, probably for attaching additional weapons.
>Why the red "eyes"?
Infrared lights for night vision
>Why so square?
To present a small target profile and deflect enemy fire

>>80740565
oh no, it's like the Robocop reboot all over again

But hey at least the iconic music has been left intact right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4iduQkrMaY

>>80742041
ScarJo is soft and puffy, even after the nose job.
Everything in GitS is powerful and streamlined.

>>80726769
That's hilarious from a guy who probably thinks casting a black dude as L was a bad idea.

He obviously has no idea what he's talking about, he can go fuck off.

>>80742674
>finding a person who kind of looks like the character vs completely changing the character visually tot he point where it isn't recognizable

Try again.

>>80742556
Manga does not have music dumby

>>80726769
Get back to us when you get the opinions of someone who matters, not just another dude who adapted the source material.

>>80742815
>butthurt

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>>80726769
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie.
aaaaand that's where he lost me

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>>80742481
>oh no, it's like the Robocop reboot all over again
Except somehow even less creative.

>>80726769
Scarlett Johansson is fucking JEWISH not white. Motoko had a much more clean cut masculine face, her nose didn't stick out and she had a strong chin. I get Oshii is saying but this shit isn't art it's fucking (((hollywood))) just trying to make more money.

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I just bought a set of Shirow posters my old comic shop had stashed away in the back.

Gonna try to cleanse my eyes of this shit with those.

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>>80726769

Oh wow, a sane opinion from a normal functioning person. The SJWs must be popping blood vessels.

Christ, why the fuck did the west have to get stuck with these human filth?

>>80727568
>why NOT a asian actress?

BECAUSE MOTOKO ISN'T IN AN ASIAN BODY SHE EXPLICITLY HAS BLUE FUCKING EYES IN THE 1995 MOVIE YOU FUCKING IDIOT

>>80744930
She's only half jew, the nordic genes came out strongest.

>>80744930
>Motoko
Shes not fucking real mejt

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>>80737475
lo

>>80727568
Because they need a normie female action star to draw people in. Normies dont know wtf ghost in the shell is.

Its as simple as that.

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>>80726769
He's right, idgaf about casting ScarJo. I DO give a fuck about how shitty the movie looks. Like, if you want to make a good and accessible GiTS movie, You only have to do one thing. Make SAC, but slightly more western. There. That's it, that's all you have to do. Bank at the box office, approval from the critics. It's SO FUCKING EASY. Why are they trying to make what looks like another nu RoboCop/Total Recall movie? WHY?

>>80740565
It's ugly as fuck and the design is beyond retarded. But it's still miles better than the original weeb shit

> I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie.

D R O P P E D

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>>80726769

1. HE IS NOT THE ORIGINAL CREATOR.
2. he is just sucking Hollywood's smegma because he flattered that they're making an adoption BASED on HIS ADOPTION of the original series.
3. Motoko Kusanagi is a glorious ~ara ara~ Nip ... not a stumpy Burgerclap Jewess with a constant doubt expression on her face.

>>80729435
Did you ever consider he might want to die along with us?

>>80726769
>taking Mamoru Hot Horse Dick Oshii's word on anything

>>80726769
WEABOOS BTFO

>>80727568
That girl has a fat pussy.

Would look great in the skintight bodysuit HNNNG

>>80726769
Mamoru will say whatever he's told to as part of the contract he signed to give them the movie rights, why would he criticize a venture personally making him richer?

>>80727568

4chan only cares if a white person is replaced

>>80729062
Underrated post

>>80726769
He's right, but the movie still looks like shit.

>>80749391
Look at that pussy

>>80747072
That's a long fucking neck

They complain about The Major being white but nobody says shit about 2 of Section 9 being played by black actors

>>80726769
He sold out, fuck him.

>>80726769
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie.

Ignoring identity politics, this is how you know he's been paid off.

>>80749738
he justs want to put his diggu into white piggu

Oh shit niggers, 5 minutes of the movie are out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9n3gJRrHhk

Doesn't look half bad

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>a future where fully prosthetic artificial bodies exist and everyone has cybernetic parts

>a country where IRL European beauty standards have made blepharoplasty and rhinoplasty to look more European the most common plastic surgeries for decades

>implying everyone is going to choose to look like an asian in this fictional future

>>80748618
>Why are they trying to make what looks like another nu RoboCop/Total Recall movie?
Because normies recognize those movies. They dont know what the fuck Ghost in the Shell is. They only know it as "that movie that influenced The Matrix". And that's not enough.

>>80726769
The movie'll be shit but not because of its cast.

The only thing that I liked out of this social justice mess is Jackie Chan getting an oscar.

>>80726769
>"In the movies, John Wayne can play Genghis Khan, and Omar Sharif, an Arab, can play Doctor Zhivago, a Slav. It's all just cinematic conventions,"
He's definitely right here. It's just a shame people are generally ignorant of history and would accept a black dude playing an Italian historical figure or white dude playing an Egyptian historical figure.

It's funny because of course Oshii is going to be okay with a white woman in the lead role.

You know what would have actually pissed him (and a lot of Japanese people) off? Casting a Chinese or Korean in the role, like so many American SJWs think they should have.

>>80726769
>I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOLY SHIT THE FUCKING RETARD HAS GONE SENILE AND NOW WANTS TO GET BROWNIE POINTS WITH SCARLETT AND THINKS HE CAN FUCK HER
WHAT A FUCKING RETARD

>>80749951
You must be kidding anon you dont really think this is whats going on do you?

>>80749819
Jesus fucking christ it looks so goddamn generic. I was actually kind of hoping that i was wrong when i called it Lucy 2.0

>>80728964
How money would influence a director of a movie from an IP which he retains no rights?

>guy who sold the film rights to his property defends the film adaptation of his property
boy, its almost like he stands to lose money over the film's box office performance

>>80750441
It's not his property, he just directed a film adaptation. Unless he's co-producing he has fuck-all to gain from the film.

>>80750647
The new movie is specifically an adaption of his adaption of the material. I don't know why or if there's any IP business going on, but illegitimizing or criticizing the this new movie's personal choices equates to illegitimizing and criticizing his own when he supplemented a lot of the source material with Blade Runner.

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>>80749822
>implying everyone is going to choose to look like an asian in this fictional future
I'm going to choose to become my waifu. Pic related.

>>80750779
>The new movie is specifically an adaption of his adaption of the material.
It's not at all. They've ripped scenes, characters and various other shit from all the previous adaptations including the ones he had nothing to do with.

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I think all objectiveness went out when he was brought in to do promotional material for the film last year.
Honestly, I don't think he gives a fuck about the movie, the guy's going all over doing interviews about his '95 movie and getting tons of attention.
To him, it's amazing advertisement for his work(s).

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What is the reason they increased Motoko's (No - Mira's) body mass so much? is it so she can bust through glass etc?

>>80727418
This

no one on /tv/ cares about anime, they just hate jews, blonde white *adult* females, and feminists.

I just think that Scarlett Johanssen is the wrong whitey.

>>80726769
>guy who stands to beneifit is okay with whatever gets him more money

Why does this thread have more posts?

>>80727568
>roles for asians are so rare and limited
Not in asia

>>80751151
Would you rather have a 95 lbs girl beating up guys or a 140 lbs one? Which one is more convincing?

>>80752700
It was gonna be the chick who played harley quinn, but she declined to do suicide squad. For real.

>>80752876
Did you forget her body is metal?

>>80752850
>stands to beneifit
He's not gaining one penny from this adaptation, retard. He's the director of an older animated adaptation not the holder of the rights.

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>>80751151
>random sparkling plastic handgun

>>80753032
>He's not gaining one penny from this adaptation
except for the parts where Paramount dangles to the check to talk about how ScarJo is just perfect for the role. Not to mention the purchases of the 95 movie.

>>80753032
He's already benefited, moron. His appeal has skyrocketed since people found out this movie does a bunch of scene-for-scene recreations of his film. He's been doing interviews and asked to speak like crazy since. He was in a featurette half a year ago for this film, its success is his success.

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Can't wait for this movie

>>80726769
Who cares about what this chink thinks? What's important are my feelings.

>>80753010
Remember her stripping naked to fight that tank

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Johansson is like a red herring to pull attention from the fact literally everything about this production looks suspect as fuck. But, due to SJWs and proper racists, if they pull all the attention to the race debate and then convince everyone that it's fine then nobody will look too closely at anything else about the movie. If I wanted to be anal about it, I could pick apart tones of little nit-pick apart dozens of little things in any one of the given trailers, but even if we're just looking at the broad strokes: Aramaki is literally the only character that looks right, the android designs are bland and basic, and Motoko's insides are borderline Green Lantern-tier, just less glowy so they don't stick out as bad. As far as I can tell they're just making shit up; plugging in fucking Deus Ex: Human Revolution plot as a dumbed down cyber-punk narrative alternative (Major's unsure of her origins, maybe gets her body after barely surviving an attack, "They didn't save you, they own you," etc). Aditionally, nothing except the major's hair and the super simplified geisha androids look like anything from the anime, and I'll put fucking money on there not being one Tachikoma in the entire film.

-but as long as all the attention is on Scar Jo's casting, nobody cares about actually criticizing the film.

>>80740565
>hey bro can I borrow your rout--

>>80727355
Can't help but notice how beauty is before acting. Is beauty more important than being able to act?

>>80726769
It's like he expects "liberals" and people who allow themselves to be their pet groups to have any intelligence. He'll learn, but sadly until more people learn to ignore the screeching of the offended brigade, cinema quality will keep declining.

>>80753795
>naked
You should seriously rewatch the movie

>>80754384
I have been saying this for some times. But I guess race is just a better topic

>>80726769
>the movies, John Wayne can play Genghis Khan, and Omar Sharif, an Arab, can play Doctor Zhivago, a Slav.

And those were times when it was criminal to have anyone BUT a white man play those roles.

BREAKING

Man hired to do promotional material for the movie, talks good about the movie. Remember when Cameron talked well about Genysis?

>>80754842
So seeing bare tits isn't nudity now
https://youtu.be/mS3PGKUiSco

>>80726769
If he lived in the US he would understand, but he doesn't. In his eyes American = white so he doesn't see a problem.

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Someone from /a/ actually saw it.
>>>/a/154892833

LOL BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
Shitty series deserve shit adaptations by the way

>>80727890
There are whole districts in Tokyo that are nothing but otaku wankery like Akihabara. Anime movies are constant, get displayed in theaters and make loadsa money.

It's like the saying the west doesn't care about comic books when you have capeshit racking in billions.

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>>80729940
>as much as I would like MOTOKO KUSANAGI to be played by a Japanese woman
I take it you've never even bothered to read what GiTS is about.

Does pic related look asian to you? Cause that's Motoko. One of the many bodies she's been in.

>>80755007
>Omar Sharif, an Arab, can play Doctor Zhivago, a Slav.

>And those were times when it was criminal to have anyone BUT a white man play those roles.

Are arabs white?

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>show seven family members of mine a picture of Motoko Kusanagi on my phone.

>Ask them what nationality they think she is.

>give them 1.Americlap 2.German 3.Japanese 4.Swedish 5.Russian as multiple-choice answers.

>every single one said Nipponese.
really makes you think

>>80726823
>>80729566
>dumbfucks on /tv/ don't know what they're talking about
How shocking

>>80749358
You got the wrong person. Try again when you know what you're talking about. Dumbass.