So after R1, we can all admit this wasnt as bad in hindsight now?

R1 is boring but it's not offensive like this was

It's much worse now

>>80713695
thought it was good before rogue one. rogue one is closer to prequel quality

It actually has color. Rogue One has a weird desaturation filter over it. The same one that Disney's superhero movies have. Things in TFA pop out where in RO they are flat.

The fucking film is fine. Good solid entertainment.

TFA is an entire reaction to the shitty prequels. So if you want to blame someone for the direction it took, blame uncle George.

>>80713755
This.

The Prequels ruined (sort of, but not really) plot devices and overused iconic imagery to sell shit movies.

TFA straight up butchers the OT's story and adventure.

>>80713695
Both are pile of shit, but R1 can at least be called a SW movie.

>>80713959
>TFA is an entire reaction to the shitty prequels. So if you want to blame someone for the direction it took, blame uncle George.
That's a really way to handwave them destroying the entire story of cast of the OT.

>>80713695
rogue makes it look worse. abrams is such a transparent hack

>>80713695
Both are bad in different ways

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm5czvOeeig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWqTj-LuXCs

Kylo is a great villain anyway

>>80713985
How does it "butcher the OT's story and adventure" exactly? By being an above average popcorn flick made for kids that maybe borrows a little too much from the original Star Wars?

>>80713695
I enjoyed TFA far more than Rogue One. It had a grander, more mysterious feel to it imo. Finn and Bunnyfu made a likeable couple, Kylo was decent, and having Han there joined it together.

Rogue One has nothing to remember it by. Literally, nothing.

I wanted to like it, but desu it's a below average movie. If it wasn't called "Star Wars" it'd be a $2 bargain bin dvd.

Thread earlier.. name the characters from Rogue One in 10 seconds: Nobody could.

>>80714001
>Both are pile of shit, but R1 can at least be called a SW movie.

TFA is more Star Wars than R1.

>>80713959
>The fucking film is fine.
>Good solid entertainment.
Pick one.

>>80714177
How?

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>>80714155
>more mysterious feel to it imo
that's because it refuses to give us information about the characters because "muh mystery"

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>>80713755
>>80713800
>>80713802
>>80713941
>>80713959
>>80713985
>>80714001
>>80714060
>>80714177
>>80714187

Guys.

Both are shit in different ways.

Can we all just agree this and move on?

C'mon, we're arguing over which one is the shittest.

>>80714177
no

>>80713695
R1 is better
Rabbit is a far better actress than Daisy
R1 actually feels like a star wars movie
R1 is just barely able to contain it's mary sueing, virtue signalling with diverse cast and powerful wymn unlike VII

R1 is a far superior movie in nearly all regards

>>80714144
>Luke and The Rebellion's defeat of The Empire/Sith didn't last 1/10th as long as their predecessor's
>Han and Leia shit on completely
>Chewbacca is now a retarded bipedal dog
>Punished "Venom" C3P0
>Darth Vader is now more Space Jesus than the Prequels made him out to be

It renders the OT moot.

I don't even like the OT

Jesus Christ all these fucking tfa shills is disgusting. They must really want that Mouse cheese

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>>80714341
>Rabbit
>couldn't remember the main charcters name

Oh dear.

Oh dear oh dear.

>>80714332
Which one feels more like the original trilogy?

Rogue One was soo much better than TFA.

-Cool action scenes on Jedha.

-Vader on Mustafar.

-Vader talking to Krennic.

-Beach scenes on Scarif were great.

-Space battles.

-Vader wrecking some Rebels.

>>80714425
neither

Episode 8 Poe and Finn love story incoming.

Episode 2- Padme and Anakin
Episode 5- Han and Leia

It's like poetry.

>>80713695
TFA was a piece of shit beyond even the Prequels. Rogue One is a masterpiece in comparison.

>>80714380
As far as your point of about Vader goes, I think the characterization of kylo Ren went over your head. Imagine being so retarded that star wars is literally 2deep4u

>>80714493
>FINN, YOU'VE GOT WIDE HIPS FOR A MAN

>>80714126
this Kylo was a good char. I only hope he is the true protag and they are pulling another Vader with xenomoprh face cunt

>watche rogue one kino
>got blinded by the new hope nostalgia,and 70s sci - fi look, and QT jyn


the action scenes at the end are amzing but the movie is just so bland and messy, no real chemestry between the characters. I did cry at the end though.

awakens is no masterpeace but just a more complete and fun movie, imhofam

>>80714425
The OT isn't some template that every thing Star Wars related has to use, anon.

>>80714527
wow how much of a soppy loser do you have to be to cry at a movie you barely care about and supposedly has characters that don't have chemistry

>>80714567
Fucking this. People need to stop this OT shit. Rogue One was more like the prequels and which one turned better between R1 and TFA? Rogue One.

>>80714567
The OT is overrated anyway. The Star Wars franchise is built on lies.

>>80714567
Maybe it's because it's shown that pretty much everything that gets too far from the OT is retarded garbage and the big secret is that star wars isnt as expanaive as some want it to be

The force awakens is quite solid, like the shit I took last night.

>>80713695
>Prepare a boarding party
Why couldn't they make JEJ do multiple takes of his lines? He didn't sound like Vader whatsoever there. You can't ignore how awful he sounds. It takes you out of every scene he talks in.

>>80714060
Stop shilling yourself.

>>80714700
I don't know if Jones is just old or if the voice was poorly mixed in post

>>80714700
sounds fine to me. the scenes in his castle were more sketchy

30+ years later from Return of the Jedi..

Here's some repainted Tie-Fighters and X-Wings. Brutal CGI looking characters (Snoke and Maz). Overpowered MarySue. Another Death Star. Same story from ANH.

I would be fucking rattled if I waited that long to see what happens after Jedi and got that. But the people that eat Disney Wars up most are the Gen Xers, that grew up with muh Star Wars.

>>80714790
It sounds fine on its own. Vader would be fine as a scratchy voiced sick guy. Thing is, it doesn't fit any other scene in any Star Wars anything.

>This shit doesnt taste so bad if you drink some piss after gais!

KYS

>>80714575
The rebellion caused nothing but suffer for Jyn her entire life, but in the end she comitted the ultimate sacrifice, simply because it was the right thing to do.

Same goes for a lot of the other characters. Then you have the small hope that jyn and the muslim will make it, but you realise there's no way out and they embrace each other.

Also when Admiral Raddus says "Rogue one, may the force be with you.." right before he's fleet goes into Lightspeed. It's just the sense of sacrifice and heroism. Giving it all, but becoming a fotnote in history as the battle must go on.

It's touching and i honestly found it weird how people went "OmFg it's darth vader xD" right after that, i was still feeling the emotinal impact.

Best part of the film

>>80714922
i guess he's just getting older

>>80715021

Yeah he is too old for it now

>>80716068
yeah but he still sounds better than anyone else who's ever played vader

>>80716159
At this point they would have been better off using Matt Sloan. Really anyone who didn't have a frog in their throat would've been better than James Earl Jones. I'm not shitting on him, he's just too old.

>>80714996
are you fucking autistic anon? kys

>>80713695
It's not as bad as it was

It's fucking worse

A shit show

Fuck jj abrams

>>80716355
i disagree. all the voice actors who've done vader have never got it right. a lesser jones is still preferable to an inadequate imitation, imo

>>80714341
This. Force Awakens themes were so fucking in your face. People who didn't grow up in this time are going to be shaking there heads.

>>80716579
>Force Awakens themes were so fucking in your face.
meanwhile in Rogue One:
>rebellions were built on hope
>hope hope hope hope
>haha that's the theme!
I liked R1 a lot more too, but come on man, the theme was forced expositionally multiple times.

>>80714155

>name the characters from Rogue One in 10 seconds:

Without looking anything up...

Baze
Chirrut (sp)
Jyn
Galen
Cassian
Krennic
Mon Morgan
K2-SO
Darth Vader
Tarkin
Bodhi Rook
Saw Gerrera
Get fucked

>>80716961
You looked that up.

>>80714443

>Vader on Mustafar
>space battles
>Vader wrecking Rebels


Worth the price of admission.

If rogue one and tfa weren't Star Wars they'd be considered bad movies and be forgotten about already.

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>>80716961
>Mon Morgan

>>80716988

Swear to god, I did not look it up.

In your defense though, I'm a massive Star Wars fan so I'm not the best person to go by.

>>80716961

Mon Mothma*

>>80717036
Neither were meant to stand on their own though

>>80717206
Exactly. They are bad movies that get a pass because they're Star Wars and are not the same the prequels.

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>>80716961
K2 a best

>>80713695
>star wars:ep7- rip off of ep4
>star wars:r1- original story

no.

>>80713695
It was ok

>>80714493
Poe and Finn?
Disney better not go brokeback mountain with Star Wars!

They're both god awful

>movie comes out in theatre and the concensus is that it's a good movie and better than TFA
>movie goes up on torrent sites months later and people shitpost about how it's not only bad but worse than

Really makes you think

>>80716902
and? which one did it worse, why are you trying to defend TFA

>>80717637
That's the rumor going around. Finn and Poe are with each other throughout the whole movie while Rey is with Luke then fights Kylo. People need "muh lovestory." Can't do it with Rey if she's training..that only leaves....

>>80714155
>Finn and bunnyfu made a likeable couple

Huh? Also so what if I can't remember the names of the characters? Are you by telling me I actually DIDN'T like the movie because I can't remember the names? I remember names from movies that are shit and I remember names from movies that /tv/ memes about

Doesn't make those movies good and doesn't mean I enjoyed them

>>80717756
>retarded Star Wars fanboys that wait in line for days to see the premiere loved this masturbatory piece of shit
>people who don't care that much about franchises and aren't too keen on giving Disney money saw the movie for what it is

>>80717857
Poe would make a much better love interest than the autist Rey

>>80714144
It's like JewJew Abrams couldn't think of anything original so he just recreated nearly every shot from ANH and called it a day, knowing full well that retarded Ameridiots would still pay money to see it as their lives are worthless

No, they were both terrible

Sage and kys I'd you paid money to watch these

Poe Finn = BLASPHEMY!!!

The funny thing is I don't even feel animosity towards this film. I just blank out on it entirely. I can't remember a single line, a particularly outstanding scene, I don't remember particularly liking or disliking anyone... I just feel hollow.

help

Daily reminder that the OT were not good films, Rogue One was a solid action movie, and Disney is doing better with the franchise than any other company could have.

>>80717961
>people who thought r1 was good but tfa was shit are fan boys

It was in theatres for more than just opening day

>>80719081
>and Disney is doing better with the franchise than any other company could have.
Are you saying that Fox couldn't have ripped off A New Hope and made 2 more Death Star movies?

>>80719161
Fox would have hired horrible actors, deflated the budget, shortened the production time, and hamfisted political identity in even harder.

>>80719081
>2 shekels were deposited into your account

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>>80714257
No because Episode 7 is objectively shit while Rogue One is subjectively shit to your plebbian taste.

>>80719243
Lol I wish I were a shill. Reality is that anyone on social network that thinks a big company isn't royally fucking anything up is not automatically being paid by the megacorps. I hate the tendency for people to accuse others of being shills because even if it may be true, its a non disprovable accusation that does nothing to actually argue, instead just resorting to a form of ad hominem.

>>80719386
Methinks the shill doth protest too much

>>80713695
After R1 we can admit that this is the worst in the entire franchise. Nice b8 though, 2/10 you made me respond.

>>80719519
Nice argument

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>>80714443
Why does no one talk about the actual battle scenes? We got a 45 minute battle scene that had a beach, jungle, garrison, space, and at the end even a boarding party setting. It was like an entire battlefront game. The space war kino was amazing because for the first time literally ever the soldier's on both sides were fighting their asses off and the stakes kept escalating until finally

>>80716902
>hope hope hope
That line is said literally one time. Stop watchign the trailers and then giving reviews faggot. That was one of her better scenes. She basically convinces everyone around here to go on a suicide mission

>>80719081
ANH and ESB were good. RoTJ ruined the entire OT and largely the series as a whole.

>>80719815
>muh Ewoks a shit. A SHIT.

>>80719753
Cassian to Jyn
>Rrebellions arre built on hope
Rebel council
>What good is hope
Jyn to Rebel council
>Rebellions are built on hope
Rebel senator to Jyn
>There is no hope
Leia to camera
>Hope
That's just me going off of memory

>>80719815
They weren't really great films though. They filled a niche that nobody knew was there and filled it well enough. The stories besides the twist were predictable, the writing was average, and the effects were amazing (for the time)

ESB was fantastic, ANH was pretty good, and you're right, RoTJ completely fucked it up.

>>80714060
Well, they didn't get my money after TFA.

>>80720235
Good man. Fuck Disney. Vote with your wallet.

>>80714797
Just think about all those better stories from the EU that are gone now, because they just HAD to make this retelling of ANH.

>>80719954
>Cassian to Jyn
>Rebellions are built on hope

This quote inspires Jyn which leads to the council room discussion of which the remaining quotes you brought up were all from except

>Leia to camera
>Hope

This one was over the top but remember movies are for the masses so they really have to drill home the theme

I felt the Leia one was perhaps to lighten the tone since the entire movie is them struggling and fighting an uphill battle fueled only by hope, ending their mission knowing that although they succeeded in transmitting the data, their death was imminent and unavoidable

It was a nice theme of despair to play foil to the theme of hope, and although the movie would be better if leia described the plans she received were the result of blood sweat and tears and the lives of many many rebels, that's not how they decided they wanted to write it

>>80720483
>Just think about all those better stories from the EU
yeah, like... uhm

[cough]

>>80720696
>durrrr le EU is bad meme

Fuck off kid.

>>80720543
>It was a nice theme of despair to play foil to the theme of hope, and although the movie would be better if leia described the plans she received were the result of blood sweat and tears and the lives of many many rebels, that's not how they decided they wanted to write it
This. I was expecting something like this but instead got "hope"

>>80720923
95% of it is

>>80721034
Sorry reading was so hard for you.

>>80721064
reading garbage is, yeah. quality writing not so much

>>80721140
Please, tell us how great TFA is some more, I'm sure a genius like you is what it takes to understand it.

>>80721248
? i'm one of the people in this thread who thinks tfa sucks

>>80714380
>punished venom c3po

Underrated

>>80719815

i don't care what you say. the first 30 minutes of ROTJ are fucking great. after that it goes downhill fast though.

>>80713695
If you like TFA you are just feeding the casual fake star wars fans who think it's trash by making these comparison threads.

Faggots who say TFA is a bad movie have shit tastes. They probably don't even like the original trilogy.

>>80722270
So it will hurt the faggots that pride themselves for being "real" Star Wars fans?

I fucking love TFA!

>>80722300
I loved the original trilogy, liked R1, hated TFA.

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>>80713695

it's funny, I loved Forced Awakened initially, but now after watching the clone wars and rewatching episodes 4,5 and 6, Force Awakens is an extreme dissapointment. I love the characters, the actors, and the dramatic scenes.
But the plot fucking sucked, I hate that Disney decided to copy A New Hope.
Using the power of a star was such an interesting concept, but let's waste all of that potential on a bigger fatter Death Star, that gets destroyed the same fucking way as the Death Star. Utter garbage when you think on what could have been.

A friend told me about the Star Forge, a factory that uses a stars energy to maximize mass production of weapons for the Empire.
We could have gotten that, it would have been so much better and would have made episode 7 and their neo-Empire truly feel like its evolved from the past movies.

Rouge One had no redeeming qualities. It's just more Death Star wanking, nostalgia wanking, with bland characters so yes, episode 7 is better

>>80719657
>for the first time literally ever the soldier's on both sides were fighting their asses off
Nope. It was generic toy bullshit just like every other Star Wars. No shell shock, no emotions. No war tactics beyond "lol we split up this way you go this way lol" with the camera cutting away. It was just generic action. Especially sucks not seeing shit from the storm trooper's perspective. The only interesting moment was when you saw 200 TIE fighters swarm out of the hanger all at once. You're a shitty person for pretending "for the first time both sides were fighting their asses off!!!!"

>>80722491
All i got was "I liked force awakens initially, but once I started listening to other people's bitching I decided to hate it too because I can't think for myself"

"The clone wars" - opinion discarded.

>>80719657
Because Return of the Jedi battle was better and basically the same

>>80722563

What's wrong with reevaluating your opinions when hearing someone else's if it sounds logical to you?

>>80722563
>I'm too stubborn to see other points of view!
>I'm a "free thinker"

Also did you even watch Clone Wars? Either of them? like it or not, it's canon directly made by Lucas and is much better than the prequel movies. It doesn't have bad acting and has great action scenes. It even makes Obi Wan more of a badass with all the episodes they give him to shine, especially against Maul

>>80721345
It's the honest truth. The reason he has a red arm is because of Venom Snake. Even the comic that gave an explanation of it and the Lego Star Wars DLC based on it where called "A Phantom Limb".