Who's better? Gimme criteria and your judgment.

>>80702178
left

Source: I am a clerk to a judge and we discussed this last March

left needs bigger ears but is otherwise better
however the one on the right was in better movies

>>80702178
>bat-nipples>everything

>>80702178
Batfleck because he has bigger guns and he kills people and he doesn't afraid of anything and he hates my brother too drinks and is just like me.

>>80702178
Left, but also Snyder is better than Nolan. I don't understand why Nolan bothers making blockbusters. Just stick to small projects, my little blonde triggered by violence autismo.

it's weird to even think that Christain Bale played Batman..
like, who the fuck is this no namer???

>>80702277
He played Bateman then Batman. Pretty natural transition.

>>80702277
Most decision for who plays Batman have been a little weird.

>>80702277
christian bale is based

Bale's Batman should've been similar to Keaton's Batman in the sense that he's a creepy psycho. Bale is good at that. It would've worked better on camera than *cancer voice* IM BATMANAORHIOHWEFA RAOG GAUIRGUHRAGTRIGGER

Batman should never have had a bulletproof suit. I found that quite silly.

>>80702178
I like Bale better because he's more plausible in the gritty, grounded, realistic etc. etc. universe that Nolan had created whereas Snyder is quite obviously trying to emulate Nolan in tone which doesn't work for his more ridiculous Batman.

>>80702178

>Left
Brawler Batman. The Batman who focuses less on stealth, subtlety and ninja-training he was taught long ago. He's an older, more cynical Batman who's abandoned most of his principles but through said act become a lot more effective at what he originally set out to do.

>Right
A younger, more naive Batman that's still very heavily focused on the theoretical side of his crusade. He uses the shadows and stealth to create fear, damaging the enemies will as much as their bodies. It's all about making people not WANT to commit crimes through them being afraid of the Bat, not what the Bat is going to do to them.

I'd argue the right Batman is the most interesting one. His way of combating injustice is based around making the enemy not want to commit that injustice in the first place. He keeps his skill, powers, and even appearance as vague as possible so that the enemy will fill in the blanks with their imaginations.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't win if the two went head-to-head, but he's more interesting to watch on the big screen if only because he doesn't feel like the average "beat up badguys" hero.

Feel free to disagree as my interpretation is probably biased.

>>80702178
Left

one is from the worst batman movie ever and worst movie of last year

the other is from nolan kino

>>80704352
>making a pretentious post on /tv/ just to make a "/tv/ about Batman" thread on reddit
Kys yourself

>>80704171
wh-what the fuck are you talking about? Batman should never not have a bulletproof suit. It's the exact opposite of silly

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Gotta go with Bale.
I wish they would stop trying use Frank Miller's Batman as the definitive Batman desu
inb4 "LE GROWL CANCER VOICE MAN" Nolan did that shit and he sounded better in Begins anyways. Affleck's Batman tries to be as brutal as possible and apparently has Captain America level of strength.

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>>80702213
non /co/ fags are not allowed to speak on this matter, leave.

>>80704352
top Kino post

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>>80705161
>shitty art
>overly muscled Liefield levels of shit
>GRIM DARK
kys senpai Neal Adams had it right

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>>80705230
>shitty art

i'll give you that, it's one of the reasons i didn't want to read it in the beginning, but once you get into it you literally forget about how shit the art and colouring is because the story is so good. It really grows on you, i love Brute Batman.

>>80705308
To each his own I guess Bat-buddy. Personally I love Brave and the Bold bats. I feel he shouldn't be much of an ass to the other heroes seeing as he works with them all the time.

>>80705330
>I feel he shouldn't be much of an ass to the other heroes seeing as he works with them all the time.

old man bats doesn't deal with grief all that well, and rightfully so.

I still think to this day, TAS and by extension, Beyond and Justice League got the perfect Batman.

TAS deals with younger, more naive batman while Beyond deals with the broken man.

>>80702178
Better batman? I'll say affleck because he didn't show himself much.
But he was too stocky, Batman should be nimble and strong not in-the-face chadlike.
Bale was better Bruce Wayne.

>>80705094
>never read a Batman in my life, the post

>>80705094
I have Jeph Loeb comics on my shelf and I agree that Batman having a bullet proof suit isn't silly at all.

>>80704352

This desu.

The reality is that left is a lot more punchy than right, and right actually comes across as more interesting than left.

Left seems like he could beat down an army, while right never feels like that kinda' capeshit.

>>80705532
Who gives a shit? Batman not having bulletproof armor makes no fucking sense.

>>80706160
Just the opposite. Bulletproof armour would hinder him from doing exactly what he does, being a nimble martial artist. The point is he does not require it.
Only movie batman(s) has ever been bulletproof, it's dumb.

>>80706280
>Bulletproof armour would hinder him from doing exactly what he does
Ya, and he'd make it a week.

>>80702178
Affleck would be better if they actually wrote a decent fucking movie.

>>80704287
The only similarities between the two are that they're both interpretations of the same character.

Nolan's Batman was the hypothetical "what if someone actually did this?"

Snyder's Batman is more representative of the pulp heroes that predated the emergence of the comic book superhero. He's just as over-the-top and mythic while still being a mortal man.

>>80706280

I think the thing is that in comic books, it's a lot easier to suspend your disbelief at the fact that a man in a skintight suit can come out of being shot at by 15 guys with semi-automatic guns unscratched just by ninja dodging the shit out of the bullets. The panels are static, you can just use your imagination to envision how quick he's moving

On the big screen, where your eyes are on the action and he's supposed to be "grounded", making his gear physcally tank bullets just seems more practical to do without making it look like a Matrix movie or ridiculous CGI

>>80706303
>Ya, and he'd make it a week
Ya, it's fiction

>>80706378
Lol, always a perfect explanation.

>>80706280
>Bulletproof armour would hinder him from doing exactly what he does, being a nimble martial artist.
No, not really. He also has super human strength. If Batman thinks "y'know what I will probably get hit by a bullet sometimes" nobody has any reason to get their gay Robin briefs in a twist. You're just letting the whole board know that you're a pathetic autist.

>>80702178
Batfleck ofc.

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>>80706423
>He also has super human strength
now you're just making thing up as you go

>>80702178
left

Ben was fine, looks good in the suit, voice was annoying. Doesn't help he was in such a crummy film

Bale was an awesome laid back bruce wayne, suit was awkward and also had annoying voice

>>80706571
Read a comic. Play a videogame. Watch Batman v Superman. He moves people around like they're ragdolls. Don't be that autistic kid that says "uhm actually it's PEAK HUMAN CONDITIONING"

>>80702178
Neither of them actually did any detective work. The closest was when Bale did a computer search for Catwoman. But since Bale isn't a murderous psychopath, he's the better Batman.

>>80707428
>play a video game
and you're calling me the autist

>>80702178
affleck better batman, bale better bruce

>>80705161
Nah /co/fags are the ones who need to shut the fuck up when grown folk are talking about thigns

>>80705308
>how shit the art and colouring is
Actual fucking plebeian detected, Frank Miller can color, panel, ink like almost nobody else.

>>80706280
>Bulletproof armour would hinder him f
it's a fucking comic book and all kinds of dumb impossible things happen, batman having bulletproof suit that doesn't restrict him isn't less of a stretch than him out maneuvering bunch of thugs with guns without one

>>80706280
it's just made of some super sci fi alloy that protects him while still being flexible

Left easily, besides the killing part Afflecks Batman is far truer to post 86 Batman that is popular.

I like Bale a lot, but he was way too mopey (not his fault, he didn't write it) and focused for 2 movies on trying to get out of being Batman, which if you understand the character, you know why that's an impossibility for him.

I could go into more about smaller details, but I'll stop there because I think that's the most essential.

>>80708498
He could, his DK2 was God awful though. I remember being so pumped, then disappointed when that dropped.

>>80702178
the one without the oversized head

>>80706160
>>80706280
>>80706303
>>80706374
>>80708500
>>80708579
Consider the story "Field Test" that appeared in the anthology film "Batman: Gotham Knight" from the DC animated series.
Bruse Wayne's chief scientist Lucius Fox develops a device that can cause bullets to deflect away from Batman so as to cause him no harm. Later during a fight, he uses this device which causes a bullet to ricochet and injure an innocent bystander.
Bruce Wayne later tells Fox "... it works too well: I'm willing to put my life on the line to do what I have to. But it has to be mine, no one else's."
So, in addition to being out of step with the traditional comic-book Batman, Bruce Wayne himself may also hold a philosophical objection to making himself bulletproof.
Food for thought.

>>80702178

Batfleck looks fat and dumpy

>>80702178
Isn't there gay porn of the one on the right? Look at his mouth hole. It's a perfect circle for my rude dick.

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>>80702178
>Nolan Bats
7/10 aesthetics
Is a manlet
obsessed with a dumb girl.
Too stupid to make his gadgets
Get his ass beat by a bald manlet in a mask
Wants to stop being Batman and did stop being Batman only to comeback because he was having a midlife crisis.
Such a shit Batman that Alfred gave on him
Puts on a shitty voice that no t scary sounds beyond silly
Not scary
Not a playboy
Shit detective
Can't drive
Has a no kill rule that he seemly doesn't understand that he breaks all the time.
Doesn't look like Batman or Bruce Wayne.
>Snyder Bat
10/10 aesthetics
IS a big guy
Smart enough to make his shit
Obsessed with stopping things he believes are real threats
Made a God Bleed and beat 2 dozen of grunts within minutes.
Will never stop being Batman. Even in his 40s is still a beast.
His Alfred still loves him.
Doesn't resort to silly voice cancer.
Scary as fuck
Actually fucks hot bimbos
Shit detective but still does way more detective work.
Drives like a badass
Kills but only for a short time and for an actual reason.
Actually looks like Batman and Bruce Wayne.

>>80708744
>Later during a fight, he uses this device which causes a bullet to ricochet and injure an innocent bystander.
So some dumb ass wrote the laziest fucking excuse for batman to not use something that is clearly advantageous for him and this is why Batman doesn't use bullet proof armor.
> philosophical objection to making himself bulletproof
That would make sense if the case wasn't completely pants on head retarded.

>>80702328
I zozzed

>>80706280
>>80708744
The comics have gradually moved toward Batman having a bulletproof costume in the last 10 years or so, starting with bulletproof golves/gauntlets and going on from there. Also his bullet tolerance has always been up for artistic license.

>>80708890
Also this. But i do think Bale looks like Bruce Wayne

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>>80708890
You sound 12. And Bales was a playboy, in all 3 movies. He cleared rooms, drove well, etc.
>Batman should kill
12 confirmed.

>>80709543
>Bales was a playboy
He wasn't it was just an act and didn't fuck shit. With Ben's they actually had him have bitches in his bed. Also never said batman should kill. Just saying if you are going to do give him a reason like Ben's or don't give him a no kill rule, unlike Bale's which killed people all the time and pretend he didn't. Face it, Bale was one of the worse Batmen. He just happen to be in good movies and that's why people don't notice it.

>>80709836
Him being a playboy was always an act. Yeah he fucks women from time to time, but Bale did the aloof guy at parties for at least the first 2 movies.

>Bale killed people all the time
Who besides Ra's? Not arguing because I think he did, I just can't remember them.

>Costume: Bale
>Characterisation: Bale
>Jawline: Affleck
>Voice: Affleck
>Dialogue: Bale
>Gadgets: Bale
>Vehicles: Bale
>Fighting Style: Affleck
>Intimidation: Affleck
>Bruce Wayne: Affleck
Overall: Draw

10 categories, each wins 5. I didn't even plan for that in advance. I guess if I had to pick between them I'd probably go Affleck, but BvS was inferior to any Nolan Batman flick. But judging Batman only, not the films themselves.

>>80709928
>Him being a playboy was always an act. Yeah he fucks women from time to time,
You see him with woman but never fuck them.
>>80709928
>Who
He pushed Two face off a league and he fell to his death. Which you could argue wasn't intentional but he still killed him. He also rams his batmobile on purpose into truck driving crushing the driver completely, but still you might be able to argue that did see the body. However the worst one is that in the batwing shoots Talia's truck which makes her fly off the rails and crash, then she dies of trauma. You also say he cause the death of all the ninja in Batman begins including probably the guy he said he wouldn't kill.

>>80709928

The only deaths at Bale's hands I can remember are

The entire League of Shadows - doesn't count, he wasn't Batman
Ra's - debatable, he just left him to die instead of saving him
Harvey - accidental
A goon in Rises - hit by the Bat's guns when he's trying to stop the bomb truck
Talia - debatable again, she died from the bomb truck crashing, but he did cause it

His Batman is extremely mild compared to Batfleck and Keaton

>>80702178
Overall i prefer Bale's Batman/public Bruce Wayne/real Bruce Wayne trinity thing that they did. Most other versions I've seen it's just the 2 personalities or even worse just the same one but with or without a mask.

But I liked Affleck's "older, jaded" Batman. That's something we'd never seen in the movies till BvS. But of course Snyder had to fuck that up too because THAT Batman would never let Joker live.

>>80708636
This.

I don't know if the artwork was supposed to abstract or something because it looked like fucking garbage.

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>>80702287
The Pet Sematary remake will be his next evolution

>>80710335
Different anon here, but...

>Ra's - debatable, he just left him to die instead of saving him
No, he ordered Gordon to destroy the monorail carrying Ra's. He even supplied the tank. That's absolutely a kill.

>Harvey - accidental
No, he tackled him out of a window. That's like me shooting you in the chest and you dying and me saying it was an accident, didn't mean for the bullet to kill you.

>Talia - debatable again, she died from the bomb truck crashing, but he did cause it
Yes, he literally shot at her car until it crashed and the driver was killed by the impact. That's not debatable, that's a kill.

He also kills two blokes in TDK when he drives the batmobile directly under their truck - the cabin is crushed against the ceiling.

Other than that, I agree with you. And he is absolutely less trigger-happy than BatFleck.

As far as I can recall, the only two Batman films where Batman didn't kill anybody were Batman & Robin and the Adam West one.

>>80710335
I find it funny how many people bitch about Batfleck killing people when they had fuck all problem with it when Keaton did it.

Same thing with Superman killing Zod in MoS when he did the same thing and was a complete cunt to boot in the theatrical Superman 2 (he might not kill in the Donner cut but he's an even bigger cunt starting barfights with people BEFORE they've done anything to him).

>>80710336
>But of course Snyder had to fuck that up too because THAT Batman would never let Joker live.
Snyder simply left it open ended for future filmmakers to play with. Joker could've been a Robin if Ayer wanted it. I guess he still could be a Robin, but I don't see them having the balls to do it.

>>80710499
>when they had fuck all problem with it when Keaton did it.
That's because it's not at all the same people. Anyone 35+ who watched Batman in cinemas will tell you that Batman killing is totally fine, especially if they've also read some of his comic titles.

The folks bitching about Batman killing in BvS are the ones for whom Batman Begins was literally their first Batman movie and had their characterisation of Batman informed by his constant "ONE RULE" nonsense in TDK. These are the kids born in like 1995 and later who were twelve or thirteen in 2008 and think they know everything about what Batman is and can be from one fucking Nolan trilogy that was released seventy years after the character's creation.

As has already been mentioned in this thread, Batman has killed in virtually every single movie (including all three Nolan films, ironically), and countless times in the comics. He literally melted a guy in his first ever appearance, and called it "a fitting end".

>>80702178
Left was better Batman.
Right was in better Batman movies.

>>80702178
I prefer Bale's tacticool suit.

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>>80702178
One on the right is a hero, one on the left is a psychotic murderer

I'll go with right

>>80710499
This. Also it's accepted cannon that Superman killed Zod, Ursa, and Non in the comics. He literally poisons them to death with kryptonite.

>>80702178
Battflek.

Criteria: Batman should not speak in a ridiculous cartoon voice.

Judgement: Dubs guy sounds like an SNL sketch if SNL was funny. Battkek sounds like a robit.

>>80711031
>>80710499
In Superman II, he literally crushes Zod's powerless hand, lifts him and hurls him to his death, then laughs as Lois punches Ursa to hers.
Incredibly overrated film. Lester is a hack and doesn't hold a candle to Donner.

>>80710758
>Narcissistic douche who quit being Batman for eight years because the ugly lady, who wasn't even his girlfriend, died.
>hero

I wonder how many kids' parents got shot in those eight years. Probably several.

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>>80710133
>>Costume: Bale
>>Vehicles: Bale
Nah.

>>80711248
BatFleck's plane looked ridiculous, and his batmobile was like a fucked up formula 1 car with a machine gun slapped on the front. Awful.

The costumes are a little closer, but I like BaleMan's cape and Kevlar more. Also liked the belt and bat symbol. And the ears. So maybe not that close.

>>80711195
It's a stupid long time to stop being Batman. It's like if he quit being Batman when Obama was elected and then started being Batman again in January. You could have gotten a PhD in the time he spent not being Batman. He spent more time not being Batman than he ever spent being Batman.

I wouldn't even really consider him a superhero. Nolan universe Batman really isn't a defining aspect of Gotham city, he is more of a freak one-off occurrence that happened to come back for a week once. It would be like if balloon boy got lost again. We wouldn't be talking about balloon boy like a generation defining icon, we would just be like, huh, that's weird that that happened twice. That's what Nolanverse Batman is. He is double balloon boy.

>>80710133
>Bruce Wayne: Affleck
this is kind of not far affleck wasn't actng when playng bruce wayne. he was just being his usual rich alcoholic womanisng self

>>80711195
he quit because Gotham had found a new hero, Harvey Dent, and was cleaning itself up

his role was to be the villain after TDK

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>>80711453
You can't be serious. His BAtwing looks like a stupid bug. His bat mobile looks like a fucking tank. And his ridiculously over designed suit looks like something Jim Lee would design while having a stroke.

>>80711784
I'll give you the Batwing. Agree to disagree on tank and suit.

>>80711704
That's stupid though. Someone as obsessed as Batman couldn't sit on his ass while people still died in the streets and their murderers walked free.

>>80702178
Batfleck is my favorite, which is funny due to the fact that I considered the casting to be a bad joke beforehand.