Is this the greatest animated movie of all time?

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>>80698341
No.

>>80698382
Fucker, beat me to it.

I'd say they're tied really.

>>80698341
>what is Perfect Blue
"no"
but close

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Sure if you're videogame playing pleb

>>80698341
No, it's pretty mediocre. I guess it's okay if you A) Don't like animation and B) have never seen anything scifi but if you have even a cursory understanding of either things you'll understand how and why it's not good.

>>80698382
>>80698412
I liked Mononoke more, but this is a beautiful film.

>>80698418
I'll check it out next!

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>>80698382

Please, that isn't even the best Miyazaki movie.

>>80698418
Is Perfect Blue as good as people claim? That's the one about a an obsessive stalker right?

>>80698445
Nice! Thanks for the recommendations. That Alice movie is unnerving as fuck btw.

>>80698454
This guy just sound bitter :/

>>80698501
it's pretty good for the direction and the editing alone

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>>80698418
Complete and utter videogame dogshit?

>>80698481
>went to see it in theaters for the anniversary event.
>The Deer god scenes.
>That complete silence.
Kino.

>>80698341
I don't think so, but it would be obnoxious to say nobody else gets to.

Haven't seen it, but it think the general consensus for best animated film is something like Spirited Away vs. Pinocchio vs. The Iron Giant. I think most people would rank Akira ahead as well

>>80698619
That'd be sweet to see in theaters!

>>80698382
>>80698481
>>80698481
>>80698619

https://hcgart.com/products/princess-mononoke-by-marko-manev

Also I figure you guys might appreciate this.

>>80698712
Good picks. Huge fan of all those.

I used to see Ghost in the Shell at Blockbuster all the time but panned over it. Ten years later I can't believe I missed it.

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No. Pic related is.

>>>/wsr/

>>80698341

GitS is so fucking garbage that ScarJo's version might be better.

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yea, just step the fuck aside

>>80698712
Iron Giant is fantastic. Definitely one of my personal favorites.

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>>80698837

Wikipedia states it's been considered one of the greatest anime films of all time.

>>80698418
>>80698501
I went to a screening of Perfect Blue last month, I really loved Paprika so I had high expectations. It didn't meet them, the story is alright but nothing special. Kind of reminded me a bit of David Lynch, but the pacing was pretty rought.

The real problem was the visuals, they were most certainly disappointing. With almost no change whatsoever it could have been a live action movie, what the fuck is the point of having it be animated then?

>>80699037
>Wikipedia states it's been considered one of the greatest anime films of all time.

I don't disagree with the actual result, but

>using wikipedia as a source

>>80698341
Nah, that'd be Sawsage Partea.

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>>80698382

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>>80698341
I'm not joking
This movie is GOAT

>>80699488
It is truly a masterpiece. I fucking cried like a bitch when I saw it for the first time.
Then I showed it to my parents. My mom cried and my dad was so riled up, he had teary eyes. You must know he is one of those hardened manly men who rarely talks and says what is on his mind, but rather acts and gets things done. He wanted to talk to me about the movie the next day, this has never happened with him as long as I am alive.
That film is special.

>>80698341
TV series > Flick

>>80698619
Lucky mother fucker.

>>80699696
GodDAMN that's such a stupid opinion to hold. I say this as someone currently rewatching SAC Season 1 after some amount of years.

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cmon guys..

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Come on, plebs

>>80698341
No it's fucking boring

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To truly appreciate this you have had to be depressed at some point in your life.

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no. stop listening to tasteless /v/edditors

>>80698585
how does bait this obscure even exist?

>>80698712
loved the start of akira, but a lot of anime suffer that too deep for you problem.
Its like every anime needs to end with the whole universe being on the line. Or the entire universe is shattered or reforged, or everything in the universe becomes one.
Still though the motorcycle scenes were god tier and so were the hallucinations. Even so, the reason above and the down syndrome faces brought it down to a 6/10 in my opinion. Love to change my mind if someone can convince me otherwise.

>>80701505
to add to this it just bothers me that when the entire movie occurs on(with the exception of the satellite scene) earth. The universe is fucking huge, and the rest of the movie had nothing to do with it.

>>80698341
Mononoke

>>80698712
Iron Giant actually gets recognition?

I love this movie tb h fäm but didn't know other people still did as well

>weebshit
>best anything
Laughable.

>>80701505
I hope you're memeing about wanting to change your mind..

I hate people on /tv/ who literally let /tv/ tell them how they feel about a movie or tv series.

i bet there are people on here who have genuinely liked or disliked something and now say they like it because /tv/ said the opposite of their opinion

>>80701891
t. Paramount pictures

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>>80701891
b-b-b-but

>>80701499
>He's not familiar with the works of Billy Wilder, multiple academy awards winning writer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJhTZeAs8NI

>>80701135
Fuck yes, I love this film. It's not just the emotional journey of one character, it's the whole of humanity. Not very well known though.

>>80698341
No, Akira exists so it will always be #2.

>>80701505
>down syndrome faces
Whut

>>80698445
song of the sea sucks ass. That song gets so annoying after 5 mins.

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>>80701965
Woah..

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>>80701965

>>80701920
did you read my fucking post, i gave the movie a review I want to talk about it. That means convincing me. I literally gave it a score.
a 6/10 for me right now, I know tv likes it and I am wondering why (usually people like anime for very little reasons) , stop shitposting for two minutes. Most likely /tv/ won't change my mind but if I missed something I want to know what it was.
Also I will like a movie even if /tv/ likes or dislikes it. For example I got ghost in the shell from here, and I really liked that movie.

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>>80701965
Hollywood truly revolutionary...

>>80701965
What movies are they? GitS and?

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>>80702076
>>80702115
>>80702150

(tie)
GitS
Perfect Blue (personal fav)
The Land Before Time
Spirited Away
The Fox & the Hound

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>>80702186
wew

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>>80702186
Also
>matrix
come back when its actual cinema and not popcorn flicks for videogame players.

>>80702181
Top left is: La Pointe Courte by Agnes Varda
Bottom left is: Dead Ringers by David Cronenberg

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>>80702186

>>80701546
That sounds like a personal problem.

>>80701505
>Its like every anime needs to end with the whole universe being on the line

Why is that the only thing you took from the film? What about the themes of globalism, lack of identity in an ever evolving technological world?

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>>80701135
Talk about wasted potential due to a subpar script... Recently watched this, was absolutely blown away by the sheer ambition and effort that went into designing every single aspect of the world. Definitely ranks among the very top of the most beautifully produced animated films of all time, but it just has trouble staying together as a movie.

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>>80702210
>popcorn flick for videogame players again

>>80702283
See >>80698585
:^)

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>>80702325

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>>80702325
>a quote unquote "deep movie for teens" and not cinema again
Hmm

>>80698341
It's pretty stupid to waste time discerning whether or not GiTS is or isn't the greatest film ever made instead of actually discussing its subject matter.

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>>80698341
its good but its not the best

>>80701135
Someone explain to me why she forgave the guy who almost raped her so quickly

>>80702441
0/10. Didn't even try to be subtle.

>>80698445
>no Animerama entry
>Heavy Traffic of all of Ralph Bakshi's work
pleb

>>80698341
That would be Akira my man
You can argue Pinnochio. Ghost in the Shell wasn't pure hand drawn animation, at the time they incorporated alot of cutting edge computer effects. The story wasn't that great either

>>80702441
You have to go back.

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>>80702477
What wasn't great about GiTS' story but was great about AKIRA's?

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>>80702358

>>80702447
Bad writing and insufficient character development

>>80702523
He must be baiting or something, Akira was only ever really lauded for its cutting edge visuals and not its truncated adapted plot

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Who based /Lupin/ here

>>80702523
.. no, I'm not wasting my time on a pleb.
Dont bother me

>>80702531
>>80702447
>in 2017 there are still plebs who don't get this scene
She forgave him because thought it was largely her fault. All along she knew what Lhadatt wanted but only used him for emotional support while shoving her faith down his throat while acting haughty about his understandable frustration. And then once it's implied that she's a whore everything comes to a head and he stops giving a fuck. She treated him poorly and she knows it.

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>all this pleb shit
Should have started with eastern europe animation image OP

>>80702447
If you think that was bad writing of female characters, I have something for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFGBFq2vMLI

A grade eye and ear candy, the most hamfisted rape scene I know, not visual, just hamfisted.

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>>80702576
What wasn't great about GiTS' story but was great about AKIRA's?

>>80699176
i hope Kanye reach to Akira level, album-wise And he's music videos are mad, most likely got it from analysing Akira's cinematography

>>80701135
not best, but it could improved immensely with a better dub and soundtrack.

>>80702596
>Macross Plus
I had no idea what the fuck was going on but it looked great and felt like a proper continuation of the original series' idol retardation.

>>80702626
Dub I can understand not everyone being fond of even though I liked it but the soundtrack is great.

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>>80702580
Ah, thanks. I sort of suspected that spoiler but there really wasn't enough to go on in any way honestly, in my opinion the movie is just spread so thin over so many concepts and characters it really takes away from the strength of the main message.
>>80702626
Oh jesus now I'm remembering the music. You can call me a plebian but I would definitely take something simple like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5thkLwLNAnY over the "unique" sounds of the Honneamise soundtrack

>>80702623
>i hope Kanye reach to Akira level
He's already overrated mediocrity.

>>80698445
>adventures of prince achmed

pseud detected

>>80702291
That is where the 6/10 comes from. When they brought in the whole universe its like they intentionally overshadowed all of the other great themes.
It is a personal problem. I guess it shouldn't bother me when animated movies go to the extremes. But it just seems to ruin the scale of everything when they say universe as if all that term encompasses was witnessed in the movie.
The themes of globalism I really liked, probably my second favorite behind the ghetto environment.

>>80702677
I can understand people finding Royal Space Force frustrating and weird since it's such a vague and undercooked story but for preferring generic smooth jazz over Ryuchi Sakamoto you must delet yourself.

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>>80698341
Not even close.

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>>80702623
Fucking pleb
>likely got it from analysing Akira's cinematography
Can't stop laughing

>>80702748
I felt like this movie would have been stronger if it ended at at least 10 different points before the one they landed on.

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>>80701442
>this fucking image
Enough. Fucking enough. I want the names of every single one of those motherfucking films right now.

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>>80702574
>Miyazaki
Hopefully no one. Hes a no talent thief and a hack.

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>>80702745
It's a major guilty pleasure. I actually have outstanding taste in music, but now I just have egg on my face.
Didn't know the OST was Sakamoto, I have some of his albums actually

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>>80702032
This is just a example of why the faces looked weird. The face is very small, and looks extremely strange in motion. Not only that but many of the faces in the movie are dead center on the skull. Not to bad once you get over it but it still looks wierd at many points.

>>80702681
I wouldn't say there's anything mediocre about it. Some of the best animation around, which is primarily what it is lauded for.

>>80702706
>When they brought in the whole universe its like they intentionally overshadowed all of the other great themes.

I wouldn't say so. In the film (and manga), Japan's rush to put the post-war period behind them and get ready for the Olympics causes them to neglect the AKIRA project:

>But I've always thought you held resentment, even a hatred for this city, colonel.
>The passion to build is cool, and the joy of reconstruction, forgotten. Now, now it's just a garbage heap made up of a bunch of hedonistic fools.

That is to say: Globalism, a lack of caring about the fundamentals, caused Japan's government to allow the film's events to transpire as they do. The teens are out of place in the Neo-Tokyo the film presents, going to the decadent school and escaping the doldrums of life by being in a bike gang. Tetsuo, when given ultimate power, still struggles with finding identity. He comes to peace when he creates his own universe, somewhere he belongs absolutely.

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>>80702811
>I actually have outstanding taste in music
Post your 15 favourite albums in order to redeem yourself.

>>80702808
wtf I hate Miyazaki now

>>80702808
His first feature length film, back when they have him doing all the animation by himself and paid him in plain rice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43_G7ud-pXM

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Nah

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>>80702836
Looks good to me, sempai.

>>80702808
You fucked up by comparing a live action film to an animated one. Different artistry is involved.

>>80702661
>Macross Plus
In a nutshell, in the year 2040 UN Spacey Fighter Pilot Isamu Dyson is reassigned to test the next generation transforming fighter plane at a base located on the colony where he grew up. There he finds that an old acquaintance named Guld Goa Bowman is the test pilot for another plane competing for the contract. It's immediately made clear that they have some bad blood which is soon revealed to be due to them both being childhood friends with a woman named Myung who they had (and still have though none of them will admit it) a love triangle and she is also there promoting an A.I. J-Pop idol named Sharon Apple. The Military fdoesn't reveal that they are using the same type of A.I. in Sharon Apple to power a new automated fighter jet which allows the Sharon Apple A.I. to take control of it back on earth. It's revealed thar due to Guld being half human and half Zentradi a warrior alien race, he has rage issues which he tries to control with meditation and medication but turns out he had a freak out in highschool that he doesn't remember as a result where he tried to force himself on Myung and blames Isamu for it instead. He realizes his mistake, they make up and fight the A.I. fighter to save the day the end.

>>80702968
The only thing that really throws me is how Guld somehow blames Dyson. What the fuck did he think happened?

>>80702850
Damn I didn't quite capture that he brings his own universe into existence. I had assumed that he changed the current one so dramatically that he and the other blue kids turned into spirit, or something along those lines.
I still wish that the film had stayed somewhat grounded in reality so that godly blade runner-esque feeling could be preserved. That along with it being somewhat annoying when themes are done so bluntly as I prefer more subtle ones(again personal preference). I guess that makes me really fucking dumb for not catching on. Maybe it was something in the subtitles that through me of. Thanks though, that brings it to like a 7-8/10

>>80703011
It's not entirely clear but I suppose we're supposed to think it's due to him hulking out so he doesn't remember properly AND at the same time he blames Isamu for pulling him off of her when some part of him thinks that would have cemented their love for one another?

>>80703026
>I still wish that the film had stayed somewhat grounded in reality so that godly blade runner-esque feeling could be preserved

I can understand that. Check out GiTS if you haven't already.

>>80703056
I suppose it's not a huge problem. It's clear enough to establish that him and Dyson have issues and that it involves Myung somehow. That's enough to make the plot work.

>>80703086
I'm struggled to call it work, even when the plot acomplish what it sets for, it's done so poorly, (the flashback it's one still image), that it completely takes you out of an otherwise great movie, if they focused on the AI instead it would be an instant classic.

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>>80702896
This isn't /mu/ but the one I posted above is one of my top 5, enjoy it. Honestly I think the most albums I've rated as "top" extends to like 5-6, i'm a really messy listener and I grab music from everywhere.

>>80703222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lIj6opiVNw
This is kind of fun.

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>>80702808
I hate when /tv/ does this shit. Planes are a very common theme and simply placing a few images together that have similar angles and objects does not make one a copy. You still have to argue your point.
>>80702930
Yea it looks fine in most places, but a lot of the time it looks very off. It might be that sometimes when they do profiles they have more face showing than there should be. I wish I could find a video. Anyway this is one frame of many. Alot of the more static ones look fine, your pic as a example.

>>80703162
>the flashback it's one still image
maybe in the Macross Plus The Movie edit, I don't know since I've never seen that version, but in the original Macross Plus OVA there's several still images sequentially showing Guld knocking down Myung, and tearing her shirt off with Isamu on his back then animates him looking in the mirror in his memory and realizing that it was him who tried to rape Myung, not Isamu.

>>80703081
seen it, loved it

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>>80703276
It's really great, track 2 is one of my single favorite songs. Akiko Yano has a really long and productive career, funnily enough I only discovered her because a friend bought a CD of hers that was used at a Yohji Yamamoto show.

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>>80698341
OUT OF THE WAY
BEST ANIMATION COMING THROUGH AT ABSURDLY HIGH SPEED

>>80703525
>muh seven years
the Boyhood of anime

>>80703647
But Redline was actually good

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>>80703647
It doesn't try to be pretentious and deep like Boyhood.
It just does it's best to look really, really nice.

>>80703525
>not Eurobeat

would have been 10/10

>>80701135

THIS

>>80698948
lmao good shit senpai

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>>80698418
>>80702200
>>80698585
>>80702283
>>80702358
a few mentions but not enough

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>>80703735
I dunno man, the soundtrack is pretty amazing as-is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNrjtYd_BsM

>>80703796
Unironically the animation and plot are top notch, if it wasn't marketed as the most disgusting shit ever, it will be a very decent demons flick.

But someone rapes a hospital, God japan why?

>>80703923
watched it a few months ago for the novelty

i agree, it was pretty crazy for being an actual production animation, but not really that disturbing considering how much fucked up shit i've seen

>>80698948
saw this shit back in 2nd yr high, when anime was hard to find. kinda pissed i only saw parts of it. only watched through the complete edition many decades later

>>80702115
You do realize computer screens used to be only green and black in the past right? It's not just something GITS made up and Matrix stole.
Jesus christ some retards s m h

>>80704103
Hi, Wachowskis.

>>80704133
its Miss Wachowskis you bigot

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You're all wrong.

>>80698341
No it's beautiful dreamer

>>80704156
>HERECOMESSAMAAANCALLEDALADDIIIINNN

>>80704153
>>80704133
I'm not Wachowskis.

Doesn't change the fact that the matrix is one of the movies of all time.

I also really liked Jupiter Rising, some cool sci fi fantasy concepts.

>>80702523
GitS story is great, the movie is fantastic, but the plot is stolen from Neuromancer

>>80704236
Hi, Miss Wachowski.

>>80702755
Yeezus was clearly inspired, at least principally, by Holy Mountain.

>>80702755
Is this just comparing each of his albums to Kubrick's movies in terms of quality?

Because Yeezus is easily his best.

>>80704103
You must not have seen the movie. It's clearly a motif The Matrix hijacked. In GitS it runs along horizontally and the characters switch until they find their place. The matrix they run vertically and do the same.

Matrix borrowed heavily from GitS.

>>80704310
Wintermute/Neuromancer contacts him, saying that it has become "the sum total of the works, the whole show," and has begun looking for other AIs like itself. Scanning old recorded transmissions from the 1970s, the super-AI finds an AI transmitting from the Alpha Centauri star system. In the matrix, Case hears inhuman laughter, a trait associated with Pauley during Case's work with his ROM construct, thus suggesting that Pauley was not erased after all, but instead worked out a side deal with Wintermute/Neuromancer to be freed from the construct so he could exist in the matrix.

In the end, while logged into the matrix, Case catches a glimpse of himself, his dead girlfriend Linda Lee, and Neuromancer. The implication of the sighting is that Neuromancer created a copy of Case's consciousness when it previously tried to trap him. The copy of Case's consciousness now exists with that of Linda's, in the matrix, where they are together forever.

This is similar for sure, but they go in two different directions thematically.

>>80701803
>>80701803

>The Iron Giant
>over The Incredibles

Why? Its by far the better Brad Bird work?

>>80701389
>only mentally deficient people like this shit
Sounds about right

>>80698341

That's a very hard question to answer, but it's probably my favourite.

>>80704463
They even admitted they were heavily influenced by GitS, it's not exactly secret.

Miyazaki and Ghibli is overrated.

>>80698341
It's nothing compared to the glory that was Broly: The Legendary Super Sayian.

>>80698341
Not sure why it gets brought up so often, is anime so bad that some mediocre movie with interesting themes always gets a shout here?

>>80707592
Eh, not really. There are anime that better Ghibli in many ways, better plots, writing, characterization and themes etc. but no one else has put out such a large number of consistently good animated films while also producing a few of the greatest.

Just a little recommendation for all you animation fans.

Ghibli's "From Up Poppy Hill" is comfy as fuck and pretty fun.

>>80705125
I bet you thought Shinji was an annoying faggot

>>80698341
naw dawg. that award goes to either ponyo or the lion king

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>>80698813
>>80701389
>>80702920
this, everyone else is just joshing themselves

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>>80702076
>Matrix (1999)
>Ghost in the Shell (1995)
What did he mean by this?

>>80698341
Ghost in the Shell is fucking garbage.

>>80709508
Second one's pretty good.

>>80703525
Yeee boy

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>>80709508
Series is much better then the movies imo

It's impossible to name ONE. On one hand there's the western ones - like Disney works, of which some are amazing - Lion King, Hercules, Mulan. I find it impossible to compare them to japanese movies.

Then you have masterpieces like Akira, Redline, End of Eva, Ghost in the Shell, Mononoke, Spirited Away, Millennium Actress, Perfect Blue, The Wolf Children, Kara no Kyoukai, Disappearance of Haruhi.

It's really down to everyone's personal favorite, and everyone has solid arguments for defending theirs. Of all the ones i love it's probably down to End of Eva and Millennium Actress. I've seen a lot - i have like 208 movies in my MAL list (a lot are shorts/dbz etc) and i enjoyed most of them.

>>80698382
You should go watch it again. I watched it yesterday and the pacing of the plot does not hold up.

>>80702615
they were both good, don't be retarded

>>80701135
Best animated film of the 80s.

>>80702447
>>80702531
She didn't forgive him in the Jap version, only in the Manga dub.
She's also a cock craving hooker, who keeps her money in her boots.

>>80698445
>tfw SoTS lost the Oscar to Disney capeshit

I will never not be mad.

>>80702755

>that Pablo cover

Requested.

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>>80698341

I always liked Angel's Egg the best.

Plot wise it's pretty much the regular 2deep4u film. But i am a sucker for the art work.

>>80698341

The only patrician answer would be The Tale of Princess Kaguya.
The art alone trumps every other anime that was mentioned here.

>>80699488
Only guy who got it right.

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>>80698341
No, pic related

Anime sucks. The best animated movies are from Western studios.

>>80714477
t. Capeshitter

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Devilman movies are the only good films to ever exist ever

>>80715098
Tell me when your shitty Nip movies bank billions

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It's not even one of the best and is somewhat outdated but it's still great. It's even completely available on youtube, check it out.

>>80715347
>Success as a measure of quality
You're a pleb anon

>>80698341
No, even The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is better

>>80698341
Unironically yes. So many memorable images, so much great music, world-building, character development, mystery, suspense etc. packed into 80 minutes, it's an incredible piece of filmmaking.

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>GitS

Start with movie or show?

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Angel's Egg is really good.

>>80715953
The movie. The show is just generic action fare.

>>80698341
Yep. The top 5 animated movies of all time are:

1. GITS
2. Patlabor
3. Patlabor 2
4. GITS 2
5. The Sky Crawlers

>>80703713
>Boyhood
>try to be pretentious and deep
HAHAHAHA
/v/eddit culture everyone

>>80716255
>The movie. The show is just generic action fare.
thanks famolomos

>>80716230

It's really not

>>80698813
Not a movie.
And how much of a manchild do you have to be to still obsess about teenage angst the show?

Oshii? More like Oshit, amirite?

>>80716255
Has a great soundtrack though

Jin-Roh

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>>80699488
So should i watch dub or sub. Keep in mind CGM is the english voice of kaguya.

>>80715347
I enjoy the fine food of Mc Donalds as well.

>>80716493
Naw

>>80702186
Oh shit, this movie was great.

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>>80701342
>This.
Shit came out years before everything else posted. Set the bar so high it ruined the industry.

>Runner Up: Fantasia

>>80716493
It really _is_.

>>80715953
You start with the original film and end it there. It's the only kino.
The series is /a/nime shit who consider Neon Genesis Memegelion the greatest thing of all time.
As for the Hollywood flick; I don't have to tell you to not give those kikes your money, enabling and support their raping of existing IPs.

>>80698341
Fuck yeah it is.

>>80716758
there is a poem which she reads in the movie, i dont know how they done it in the english version, but yeah i would stick to the japanese

>>80713153
Angels Egg is complete kino but its 2deep4/tv/plebs

>>80698341
I watched it for the first time recently and, to be honest, I wasn't blown away

I think it suffers pretty badly from the Seinfeld Effect

>>80702115
the wachowskis said it themselves that they got elements from GitS its not really a hidden thing

>>80702441
Get some better trolls please

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>>80699488
>>80698341
isao needs to be more recognised

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>cartoons

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Fuck outta here, plebshits

Also if you hate Honneamise's score then you're a fag of the highest order

>>80719092
Stop posting that frog

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>>80719866

>>80704898
I like the setting and animation of Iron Giant better, I also feel like The Incredibles doesn't have any real tension.

>>80698382
Literally a movie for little girls

>>80698481
Literally a movie for little boys

Best miyazaki movie is either nausica or porco rosso

>>80698481
>Please, that isn't even the best Miyazaki movie
Kiki's Delivery Service is.

>>80702186
Tokyo Godfathers is fanastic

>>80716479
Theyre wrong. The tv show is a crimedrama/intrigue/mystery with some philisophical themes. The show is really good but a different animal

>>80716479
Don't listen to the retard. It's nothing like a generic action show.

The show is thematically much different than the movie where it pretty much plays off as a futuristic crime thriller with some philosophical themes sprinkled in. Both are worth watching.

>no Vampire Hunter D

>>80704898
any pixar flick or cgi shitfest for that matter is just light comedy for Redditors and children to be easily digested.

Only Yesterday

>>80702186
Have you actually seen 3 Godfathers? It's not similar beyond the basic premise of people finding a baby.

Miyazaki is probably the most overrated hack in the industry. Kon was 10x the director Miyazaki ever was and he doesn't get half the recognition.

Oshii is also a fucking hack. The man made 2 good movies in his long ass career and he's hailed as some great auteur. That abomination of a movie he made in Innocence alone should be disqualify that hack from any consideration as one of the greatest animation directors.

>>80721267
it's fucking trash. go back to your containment board. I bet you have the song Inner Universe on your ipad for 10 years now.

>>80721464
Hello retard.

>>80721435
autistic rage kicked in again, huh?

>>80721476
you honestly need to go back.

>>80721535
You honestly need to not type like a literal retard.

>>80698382
>japanese disney melodrama
>best anime
hell no

>>80698341
overrated.

>>80721577
What incredible insight! Truly a connoisseur of the medium.

>>80699488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtFCNu9x1IQ

>tfw

>>80702472

Heavy traffic is great. Its pretty cheap and very juvenile at times but it has the best atmosphere of all bakshi animations

>>80698341
>>80698382

Those two are two of my favorite movies of all time.

I like your tastes, /tv/.

>>80702115

What could've been if The Wachowskis had been the ones directing the GitS movie.. Probably could've been as good as The Matrix.

>backwards country
>gets nuked
>becomes even more degenerate

fucking kek

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>>80723099
>>80723272

>>80698341
>>80698412
I literally just watched it for the first time. Other than being ahead of it's time conceptually, establishing a curious setting, and featuring interesting characters, what about it makes it so great? It felt like a prequal to me, and made me want a series or movie about the adventures of Master Major Loli which seemed like it had enormous storytelling potential.

>>80723099
>as god as The Matrix

So... edgy garbage, then?

>>80701342
Watched it for the first time this year. One of the few things I've ever watched that lived up to the hype. Absolutely fantastic.

>>80723373
>Ahead of its time conceptually

Blade Runner didn't establish the cyberpunk setting and Welles, Plato and others didn't develop the philosophical theories many years before this right? weaboo retard.

>>80722811
this shizz was in my head for a long time man, watched the ending on repeat.

>>80722811
sigh, gonna watch the film the fourth time now.

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>>80723560
Anon, did I give it exclusive ownership of Cyberpunk or the philosophies within it? I didn't call it Cyberpunk because of Blade Runner. I'm not even going to address philosophy because I'd direct you to the professional philosopher in World of the History Part 1. It featured concepts that have been pulled from since it's debut in '95. I could have very easily declared something I wasn't crazy about dogshit but I'm trying to discuss it with people I hope might have a better understanding of it, and instead of engaging in a conversation with me, you're getting caught up on one phrase I included specifically to give the movie the benefit of the doubt and are being a cunt-tier shitter over it and calling me a weaboo because I didn't declare everything that featured concepts within it previously.

>>80715953
Read the manga.
Watch the movie
Watch the show.

Then watch Scarjo if you feel like it, but be sure to read the manga so you know what the characters are supposed to be like. And not like faggot "but muh gits is always super cereal and not funny" losers who've only seen the first movie and think everything must be like that

>>80715953
Also, the movie is an adaptation of the manga. Not an accurate one at that.

The show is not a sequel to the movie but another adaptation of the manga, somewhat different with new stories included.

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>>80719637
Hahaha this movie is truly awful, I actually LIKE Yuasa's works normally (I think Kaiba is an actual masterpiece), but this was just off-kilter trash with a few good gags and a corny message.
>>80716307
People actually liked the first Patlabor movie? I thought it was terribly written and paced, and the visuals weren't great either. The Sky Crawlers is actually one of my single favorite movies even though I know it's not great on a technical level, it's written with a Japanese traditionalist perspective at heart and it's really emotionally affecting.
>>80721050
>>80698481
Mononoke and Kiki are two different beasts that I both love, Mononoke I think edges it out because of the pure power of a lot of the sequences though. Both have absolutely beautiful scores from when Hisaishi wasn't just phoning it in too.
>>80723373
The writing and theming all feels extremely complete for a single movie which is a huge accomplishment, it all just feels really well put together in the end.

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>>80719637
I thought I'ld scroll through the thread without seeing someone posting this

this movie legit changed my life, no cringe. I highly recommend anyone who hasnt seen it to do so. When everything clicked into place at the end it was such a brain explosion

>>80698382
That's not howls moving castle

>>80724351
>The writing and theming all feels extremely complete for a single movie which is a huge accomplishment, it all just feels really well put together in the end.
I'd agree with this to a point. What is presented is not done so lightly. What is given is given in full. The ending however came off as one seen as a symbolic end, or a set up for a sequel. Now I know there is a sequel to it, but if I am judging it as a standalone story, I feel as though I might have missed the significance of the ending because I felt myself more curious about what what going to happen next then what had led me to that point. I know you aren't me or didn't watch it with me, but is there something you think I might have missed?

>>80724351
The first Patlabor movie is fucking great. Sure it's not as moody and oppressive as Patlabor 2 or GITS, but the trademark Patlabor blend of humor, action, and speculative sci-fi works really well in the movie. I also disagree that the visuals weren't great, I thought it had more consistent animation that Patlabor 2.

>>80702358
you know the guy who directed Requiem bought the rights to Perfect Blue so he could recreate that scene right?

>>80724613

Here's an analysis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9v8FzQ2btg

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>>80724814
THANK
YOU
BASED
ANON

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>>80724613
I assume that you understand the significance of the plot, Motoko's internal struggles, and her being led on by the AI to achieving self-realization through a transhuman merger, which is both intriguing and horrifying. The parallels and differences between her and the AI lead up perfectly to them fulfilling their roles in this symbiotic relationship which I thought made it an extremely satisfying conclusion. It's also a little bittersweet at the end because it essentially means that she breaks her already tenuous connection to humanity and leaves them behind, especially Batou who wants only to care for her.
>>80724736
I'm going to be totally honest here I really really like the Patlabor OVAs but I couldn't watch the TV show... It ended up being even more slapsticky than the OVAs so I'm not a giant Patlabor guy. I just remember seeing the movie and it just having pretty much no effect on me emotionally. I mighr re-watch it

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>>80698382
i feel Spirited Away is one of those things that mindfucks westerners because they dont have a cultural background of asian paranormal beliefs, it would be a very fresh thing for them. But in asian stories, its a common trope (the spirit world vs the earthly world and the rules that govern both).

Like how Crouching Tiger was the first time many people saw kung fu kino.

I wish they would redub the original gits with the voice actors from the show

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>>80698382
>DUDE STUDIO GHIBLI LMAO

It's the greatest overrated anime of all fucking time.

Didn't know studios were viral marketing on /tv/ now

>>80707772
Yes.

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Plebs