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YOUTUBE "RESTRICTED MODE" COMPLAINTS BY CHANNEL OWNERS

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>YouTube Filtering Draws Ire of Gay and Transgender Creators
http://archive.is/lOhpY

>Highlights

YouTube on Monday admitted that its family-friendly “restricted mode” had wrongly labeled some videos on its site, apologizing and promising to fix the error, after users complained that the video-hosting site was filtering some videos about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender issues.

YouTube described restricted mode as “an optional feature used by a very small subset of users who want to have a more limited YouTube experience.”

“YouTube has always been a place where you can find someone just like you,” Gigi Lazzarato, a transgender YouTube star better known as Gigi Gorgeous, said in a video encouraging the company to address the issue.

Ms. Lazzarato, who stars in a YouTube-produced documentary about her transition and who posted the video before YouTube issued its Twitter statement, noted that many of the videos in which she discusses her transition are blocked under restricted mode. Such content can be educational for children struggling with their own gender identity, she said.

“That video might be the ultimate tipping point for them, in their transition,” she said.
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Isn't that the guy that came out as gay, then a tranny, then a lesbian?
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>>80692339
>trannies don't have a mental disorder, liberals said
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>>80692979
>gays aren't crazy they said
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>>80692979
Transexualism isn't a mental disorder. Trannies can get mental disorders, mostly from things like bullying, repression, and loneliness.
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>>80693271
>
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>>80691184
I see a lot of people claiming censorship now when they were previously quoting the old line of they're a private company so it's not censorship when it was their enemies getting shut down.
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>>80694466
>seriously posting xkcd as an argument
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>lgbtqwtf complain about shit

BREAKING NEWS ALERT
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>>80693271
stop making sense.
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>>80693271
>>80695380

>The American Psychiatric Association permits a diagnosis of gender dysphoria if the criteria in the DSM-5, are met. The DSM-5 moved this diagnosis out of the sexual disorders category and into a category of its own.[23] The DSM-5 states that at least two of the criteria for gender dysphoria must be experienced for at least six months' duration in adolescents or adults for diagnosis.[24] The diagnosis was renamed from "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria", after criticisms that the former term was stigmatizing.[25]

>The diagnosis was renamed from "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria", after criticisms that the former term was stigmatizing.

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck.
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>>80694466
Good point.
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>>80695623
You're talking about gender dysphoria, a symptom of transgenderism. Gender dysphoria is the feeling that your body doesn't belong to you and doesn't match your gender. Cross sex hormone treatment takes away the dysphoria and helps the transgender person accept their body.

To simulate the feelings of dysphoria, you can take estrogen pills if you're a boy or estrogen blockers and testosterone if you're a girl. You'll start feeling nauseous, depressed, alienated by your own body.
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>>80696045
>To simulate the feelings of dysphoria, you can take estrogen pills if you're a boy or estrogen blockers and testosterone if you're a girl. You'll start feeling nauseous, depressed, alienated by your own body.

you need to learn what a "disorder" is then kiddo
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>>80696165
I'm saying if you're not trans and you wanted to know what dysphoria feels like, you can do this to understand it and why for trans people, whose bodies produce hormones their brains don't accept, would experience dysphoria and are given cross sex hormone treatment to combat it.
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Different people are offended by their kids watching different things. Europe is okay more with nudity and sex, iffy on violence. US is more okay with violence and gets all up in arms about nudity and sex.

Some people think even having gay or trans people is not appropriate for kids.

YouTube should just have check boxes for what whiny people are offended by and cater restricting things for parents by the things they find offensive.

It's 2017. This is an internet site, one of the biggest video sharers in the world. You can't tell me they can't tailor these things. They making recommendations and shit tailored to people. They can trim out content people find offensive more than just some "adults only" label like Tipper fucking Gore did to the music industry in the 90s.
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>>80691184
>transgender YouTube star
Fuck this gay Earth.
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>>80694466
How does someone who is such a smug pseud not realize the difference between the first amendment, a legal constitutional decree, and freedom of speech, a principal or idea?
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Wtf, I love chick's with dicks now.
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Hahah!
It's very funny, actually, or something along those lines, honestly.
That's all for now.
Peace out.
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>>80693241
thats a good ass movie

i fucking love that de palma era
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>>80696959
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>implying psycology is a fucking science
Modern "psychiatrists" and "psychologists" both admit that the father of their "science", Freud, was wrong on every account and that they had to revolutionize that field at least 3 times since its birth.

We can still use the Pythagorean theorem in Geometry and you can still apply some of Newton's laws to physics, yet a field born basically yesterday has no set rules and has experiments that CAN'T BE REPRODUCED AT WILL.
Sounds like a pseudo-science to me.
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>>80693271
get out jew
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>>80694502
Your tears are delicious.
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>>80691184
That reminds me. They should do a remake of Sleepaway Camp. If anything just to get tendies from all the butthurt it would cause.
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>>80696943
I'd say that dorky little cartoon did a pretty good job of explaining it, faggot.
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>>80696959
>now
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>>80696943
I think he realizes the difference, but I don't think he believes in the principle of the idea and gains nothing by noting it.

I find the overhead text amusing
>I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express
Just like when people defend a private company silencing people on a forum for dissenting opinions, or companies firing them, by pointing to how it isn't illegal is kind of the ultimate concession.
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>>80691184
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> parents can not be allowed to raise their own children!
> toddlers must be made to watch videos by mentally deranged trannies!
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>>80691184
get bent faggots, I'm tired of getting fudgepacker propaganda fed to children.
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>>80692339
Garrison?
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>yfw the Day of the Rope is literally going to happen sometime in the next few decades
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>>80693271
>Trannies can get mental disorders
yeah, beginning with the gender identity disorder one
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>>80699390
Let me direct you to >>80696045
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>>80691184
>“That video might be the ultimate tipping point for them, in their transition,” she said.

>>for children

how is that not illegal
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>>80693271
>Transexualism isn't a mental disorder

Oh yeah, it's perfectly normal to be born with a dick and balls and think like you should have a vagina.
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>>80699406
then why doesn't the "treatment" improve the suicide rate?
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>>80699259
> parents can not be allowed to raise their own children!

Except they never said that. They're saying it's not the type of content that should be in restricted mode. It's not violent, profane, or prurient.
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>>80699460
it just leads children to believe that women sometimes have penises too. Pretty healthy.
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every mentally ill fuckwit can talk directly to children now thanks to youtube.

the newer youtube/vlogger generation is going to grow up to be dyed haired cancer x100.
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>>80699445
Nobody is saying it's normal. It's a super rare condition that affects 0.3% of the population. What the APA is saying transgenderism is not a fake condition made up by emotionally troubled people. It's real concrete thing that occurs due to some biological mechanism that causes the brain's gender to mismatch from the body. They have studied this for more than 60 years now, looking at brain scans, blood work, identical twins, intersex children (those born with ambiguous or malformed genitals that can be both penis and vagina), and case studies with gender confused people.

>>80699457
But it does.

>>80699504
Sometimes, as in 0.3% of the time. Do you think straight kids see gay people on Youtube and grow up to be gay?
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>>80699460
Thats subjective
If parets want to restrict that shit they should be able to>>80699504
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>>80699753
>Do you think straight kids see gay people on Youtube and grow up to be gay?
Yeah, as kids me and my bro had this friend, he would touch me on the thigh sometimes while we played pokemon, I pushed his hand away, but I think it was too late, and he made my bro gay.
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>>80691184
I remember seeing the trailer for this dude's movie before John Wick 2, everybody in the theater was confused as fuck.
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>>80699830
There are ways to do that without Youtube's official restricted mode. Parents have incredible control and ways to monitor what their kids do on the computer.
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>>80699753

children imitate what they see, of course some will go gay if that's they grow up seeing
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>>80699365
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>>80699920
Or the few that do were already gay in the first place.
Do you think people can choose their own sexual orientation? Do you remember choosing to be straight because you saw bunch of straight people kiss?
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>videos about sexuality are family friendy
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>>80700020

depends on the person but yes, the environment during childhood development is a factor I don't know why you'd think otherwise
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>>80699460
>They're saying it's not the type of content that should be in restricted mode.

And since I'm the parent, I get to decide what is and is not restricted, not you or some mentally deranged tranny on YouTube.
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>>80700151
But Youtube gets to decide if LGBT stuff is in restricted mode. I guess you can email them to say it should be. But if it's not, you can restrict it yourself.
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>>80699753
>But it does.
[Citation Needed]
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>>80700122
But kids who grow up with two moms or two dads don't become gay. 98% of them are straight, the rest are gay, following the population averages, meaning the environment has no effect on sexual orientation. Otherwise, kids with gay parents should be on average more gay than the population.
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>>80700256
The only theory that makes sense is it being a mental disorder.
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>>80700256

nah, the social environment is more than just your parents. the internet affects children, television does, books they read, who their friends are; etc.
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>>80700213
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2011.02564.x/full
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>>80700191
>But Youtube gets to decide if LGBT stuff is in restricted mode.

Sure, and YouTube can decide to lose all the normie parents who don't want their kids exposed to gay propaganda

And YouTube can decide to lose all the advertisers, to want those normie parents to buy their products.
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>>80700346
Right, but constant interaction with your parents is one of the strongest influence in a kid's childhood and development. Kids may see gay people once in a while in real life, TV shows, or books, but if they have gay parents, they'll see homosexuality every day. Yet this doesn't make the kid go "I want to be gay" by the time they reach puberty.
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>>80700373
I mean, if that happens, I guess that's Youtube's loss. Btw, don't lot of companies have LGBT ad campaigns now?
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>>80691184
>a transgender YouTube star better known as Gigi Gorgeous
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>>80699753
>Do you think straight kids see gay people on Youtube and grow up to be gay?
no, that's not the argument. They could grow up to think transfaggots are normal, which is false and counterproductive

>Sometimes, as in 0.3% of the time
but that's false

also, it's false that mutilating a man's penis improves their chances of not killing themselves when they find out that they're so disturbed they've permanently damaged themselves in order to avoid confronting their illness
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>>80700256
>two moms or two dads
there's no such thing
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>>80700366
Thank you
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>>80700628

it's hilarious that this fails to be noticed as strange by so many otherwise intelligent people
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>>80700366
>meta studies
no thank you
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>>80700653
If by normal, you mean a naturally occurring condition that consistently affects ~0.3% of the population across gender, race, and culture, then sure, people will think transgenderism is normal like getting a hip replacement surgery, while rare, is a normal thing that happens.

If by normal, you mean healthy and acceptable state of being, then I think you got the wrong idea of what trans acceptance means. Nobody is saying it's healthy or fun to be transgender. They're saying they've been afflicted with a shitty condition due to a bad dice roll of some biological mechanisms regarding their genes or development in the womb, but they're not crazy or less than a human being because of it.

For the point about how treatment doesn't work in reducing suicide rate, refer to >>80700366
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>>80700930

>Nobody is saying it's healthy or fun to be transgender

yeah right
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>>80700930
>but they're not crazy or less than a human being because of it.
I'm not saying they're less than human, I AM saying that they're crazy. What you described previously are pretty much congenital or genetic defects, what I'm saying is that it's a mental illness.
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>>80692339
>then a lesbian?
kek literally waifuing then. like playing vidya as a girl and making your avatar beautiful af.
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>>80700970
I mean, I can see how you got that message because of extremely vocal crazy feminists on Twitter and Tumblr. I didn't understand transgenderism either because they kept saying gender was a social concept until slowly over the last two years, as I read more real studies and credible articles about it, what transgenderism really is. It's hard to separate the noise from the truth.
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>>80700930
>they're not crazy or less than a human being because of it.
No, there are literally people saying "having a penis doesn't make me any less of a woman. If the argument was "trans people have a right to not be murdered" this would probably not be as contentious an issue.
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>>80692339
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>>80694466
right cus google is actually an ebin right wing anti sjw company that's just kicking out all the lgbt people, looks like /pol/ wins this one!!!
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>>80700723
Gays can adopt or get surrogate mothers or sperm donations from sperm banks.
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>>80701053
How is this allowed?
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>>80694466
fuck I hate Randall
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>>80701053
KEK
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>>80700911
Meta studies are looking at bunch of separately published studies about the same topic and trying to see if there's any conclusions they can make from it via compare and contrast. The meta study I linked is basically 23 studies condensed into one study.
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What are they going to do? Stop using youtube? It is how they make their living.
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>>80701075
yeah, to make a comune. Children are not pets.
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>>80701130
>Children are not pets
They are mini worker pets if taught properly.
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>>80701114
I know what a meta study is. They're all pseudo science masked in statistical regressions. They have all of the methodological defficiencies of each study compounded into one but none of their virtues.
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>>80700571
>Btw, don't lot of companies have LGBT ad campaigns now?

Sure, for now. Though there is no denying that society is swinging the other way, as many people (not just Americans) have had enough with the deviant behavior and are tired of it being shoved in their face all the time.
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Faggots getting btfo left and right
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>>80701005
Doctors and scientists are still trying to narrow down the reason why transgenderism happens, but it is something biological. A study of identical twins found that if one of the twin is trans, the other twin has 33% chance of being trans too.

>>80701025
>having a penis doesn't make me any less of a woman
I guess what that's applying to are MtF (male to female) trannies. Not all trannies choose to do sex reassingment surgeries, mainly because the technique is yet to be perfected and is very costly. So due to some biological reason, their brain's gender and the body's genitals are mismatched, but they're still women.

I guess an analogue for non-trans people would be if you're a guy and you lost your penis, you'd still be a guy.
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>>80701053
>the state of white """people"""
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>>80700366

let's hope those are reproducible studies. i really suspect that there are a lot of psychiatrists and MD's with predetermined agendas that shove these things through though.
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>>80700930
>but they're not crazy or less than a human being because of it.

No, there is very much is a mental aspect to homosexuality, let alone the transgenderfluid otherkin sapiosexuals types.
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>>80701053
the white race, everyone!
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>>80701252
>but it is something biological
I'm old enough to remember when the popular consensus was that it was normal because "it's just their preference"

I would agree to the biological conclusion, particularly when it comes to exposure to prenatal testosterone, but that doesn't explain why so many fags have histories of child abuse. When it comes to trans maybe that comes into some kind of weird territory of whether it's a further sympthom or just attention seeking
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>soon I'll be able to filter out non-whites
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>>80701053
>white
>master race
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>>80701053
Clever ((girl))
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>>80691184
If I cared what faggots thought, I'd read your blog.
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>>80701422
>I'm old enough to remember when the popular consensus was that it was normal because "it's just their preference"

Maybe this was in regards to cross-dressing, which isn't transgenderism. I don't remember this though.

>so many fags have histories of child abuse
If I had to guess, it's because the parents don't like that their children are acting faggy or dikey. Which is no reason to beat up a child though.
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>>80701053
the internet was a mistake
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>>80701252
>Doctors and scientists are still trying to narrow down the reason why transgenderism happens, but it is something biological

"Over half the mothers of sons with GID met the criteria either for the clinical diagnosis of borderline personality disorder or had symptoms of depression. In contrast, no women among the controls had a borderline personality disorder , and only one had symptoms of depression

https://autogynephiliatruth.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/marantz-1991.pdf

What did they mean by this?
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>>80701530
I was actually referring to sexual child abuse, I'm saying molestation can be the reason why normal kids become fags by no fault or desire of their own
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>>80701603
It means they had a pretty shitty control group if they couldn't find one woman with BPD.
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sure is neogaf in here
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>>80701620
I'm trying to find studies or statistics about how many homosexuals were sexually abused as a child.

It's true that sexual abuse can confuse the child's sexual orientation. If a boy was raped by his uncle but he had an orgasm from it, he might think he "enjoys" it and thus is gay when he's not, requiring lot of therapy and help from friends and family in the future to understand that he's not gay.

But I don't know if it can actually change someone's sexual orientation.
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>>80701053

this is getting a little ridiculous huh?
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>>80701603
"The subjects of this study were 16 mothers of boys with GID and 17 mothers of normal boys."

It's a pretty small sample size. But if the findings are accurate, then I guess the interpretation would be that the mother's psychopathology either caused the GID in the boys or the mother's psychopathology had some genetic effect on the boys to give them GID. The study doesn't make an interpretation though.
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>>80701840
oh,ok so anally raping a child would give him an orgasm? riiight....

Not a chance you would think that the trauma stunts the sexual development of a healthy kid and turns him into a deviant?
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>>80702475
Anal sex can simulate the prostate to give him orgasm. But most likely, the boy will probably get jerked off by the rapist.


>Not a chance you would think that the trauma stunts the sexual development of a healthy kid and turns him into a deviant?
That's literally what I said. Sexual abuse can fuck with the kid's development and confuse him about his sexual orientation and also think he deserves to be sexually abused.
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there is literally nothing wrong with grooming children into becoming trannies.
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>mentally ill man that gets fake silicone tits and dances on a webcam complains that he isn't able to broadcast his webcam vids to children
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>>80701053

looks like the process has already begun.
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>>80702603

But why do you think that is?

After all there is nothing inherently bad about sexual activity even if you're a child

Its well known that the Greeks engaged in sexual activity with children but at the same time their entire concept of sexuality was very different from current western views

Don't you think its possible that the only reason any kind of sexual activity would affect a child's (or just as well an adult's) psychology is because of how we've become predisposed to view our own sexuality
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>>80702915
Can I get a quick rundown on these lads?
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>>80703049
Why do degenerates always bring up a dead society from 3000 years ago, bros?
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>>80703156

All of Western civilization is built on the ideas of the Ancient Greeks

All I'm saying is if they weren't doing things right I don't know who is
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>>80703204
The Ancient Greeks entire society was built by slavery and they also sometimes castrated young boys.

If you think shit like PTSD only started existing in the 20th century you're fucking wrong.
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>>80703049
First, pederasty is different from rape. There is a Bedamini tribe in New Guinea where young boys have ritual oral sex with older boys because they think the semen contains the life force that turns boys into grown men. When they grow up, they are no longer required to do this. And 98% of them turn out to be straight and marry and have sex with women and 2% of them turn out to be gay. Gay ritual sex did not produce more gay people.

Here's the link to a Norwegian documentary that mentions that tribe: https://youtu.be/J04bRx2MGi4?t=1366

In America, we've been long taught that doing anything slightly perceived as romantic with a member of the same sex makes you gay and that gay is bad (although that has changed significantly). And also that you only can be 100% gay or 100% straight, with no in between. So when a kid gets gay raped and had some pleasurable feelings from it due to the physical stimulation of his penis or prostate, he will think he's gay when he's not.
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>>80691184
Faggots, dikes, and trannies should all be gassed.
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4chan is a microcosm of this shit. Degenerates believe ordinary people MUST be subjected to their degeneracy you see it all over 4chan.
This idea has steadily being building in the msm from the progressive movement that people do not have a right to filter out things they dont like.
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