How dead is Hollywood?

>>80660409
Dead enough that the Chinese are taking it, just like the Chinese are taking everything.

>>80660409
hollywood isn't dead. theatrical exhibition as we knew it is dying

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It's almost like there's a reason the 30s-40s are the "Golden Age" of Hollywood! To answer your question, yes Hollywood has been creatively dead for decades. Very few films past 1970 are worth watching. You should check out foreign cinema, there's still some creativity left outside the US.

Boxoffice last year was the shittiest its ever been. This year it will probably be even worse lel.

>>80660581
Golden Age is 1927-1963, at least I thought.

>>80660517
The wall will stop that.

I was thinking about this, two things people usually say:
1. Hollywood is lazy/uncreative/not bold enough to come up with truly new ideas
2. People don't go to good movies and would prefer rehashed garbage

Both may be true, but I think there's a third thing going on: humanity is running out of things to put on screen. It happened to music, where pretty much everything has been done. I think we're arriving at that point in film as well where it's all been done. Sure you can mix it up, you can do it differently, but there's a finite number of stories to tell and a finite number of things you can put on that screen. With hundreds of thousands of films under our belt, we're just running out of things to do.

>>80662967
everything was already done when aristotle wrote poetics FRIENDO

>>80663006
Can't hold a candle to Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen

>>80662901
Lol

its the fucking beaner immigrants ruining movies. they like low iq trash like smurfs

>>80663136
You do realize that was a children's movie, right?

>>80662967
>Hollywood is lazy/uncreative/not bold enough to come up with truly new ideas

Hollywood does what the audience demands

>>80663160

> Implying the majority of American Children aren't beaners at this point.

>>80660409
Actually go fucking looking for shit before complaining about
> muh original films
Of course a cinema lobby is going to just have the most popular stuff advertised.

>>80660409
How does Wonder Woman or Ghost in the Shell fit in it, retard? They literally first movies in possible franchise. Fucking retard just tell your dad to shotgun your head.

Why can't people have a discussion without being cunty and bringing up their stupid racial insecurities

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>>80663344
>Wonder Woman
>Ghost In The Shell
>First Movies

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>>80663344
Hello this is dubs? Yes, I want to order some. What? Oh. Extra Thick!!

>>80663384
>Reboot, readaptation, remake.
Please end yourself.

>>80663354
You're the one that is racially insecure if you get triggered by derogatory terms for mexican border jumping beans

>>80660583
That's good, they deserve it for making terrible films.

>>80663414
I don't even give a fuck dude, it has literally nothing to do with the thread. Do you just go into every thread and let everyone know you don't like them? No one cares. You aren't important and your opinion doesn't matter. Go find a thread about that, and have fun.

>>80663406
You seem like a rather delicate individual. Do you need a safe space?

>>80663449
>racial demographics causing shift in movie preferences isn't related to hollywood going to shit

go to your safe space on reddit if real opinions scare you

>>80663473
I just feel sorry for you. Consider act of suicide or proxy-suicide as an act of mercy on your body.

>>80660581
US still makes the worlds best films, just not big budget Hollywood blockbusters

>>80663495
Real stupid opinions you mean
>MEXICANS MADE THE SMURFS BAD GUYS
how fucking retarded can you be

>>80663504
I think you should cry about it, maybe if you cry enough someone will care!
>probably we won't

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>>80660409
pretty fucking dead

>>80663578
Yeah I'll get right on that

>>80660409
WW hasn't had a movie before, but I'm sure it's going to be shit anyway.

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>>80663600
That is bad. I almost feel like this was worse.

>>80663638
Owen Wilson has such a punchable face

>>80663626
They just weren't big theater releases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2009_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(1974_film)

>>80663673
>Wonder Woman is a 2009 direct-to-DVD film
yeah I wonder why it wasn't a big theatre release

>>80663673
I wouldn't count direct to DVD and made for TV movies as real movies, I would think that without a theatrical release it wouldn't count.

I like the 2009 one, it's pretty good.

>>80663600
Voiced by Patrick Stewart

>>80663745
Patrick Stewart is the shit.
Literally.

>>80663741
No I don't really count them, but I think it's a stretch to say that Wonder Woman qualifies as Hollywood doing something new. It's just an old thing with a bigger budget.

>>80663784
Really? man that is sad
I guess his great grandkids can go to college now.

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>>80662901
the great wall?

>>80663811
of course it's not something new. Bitch has been around for like 70 years

>>80663811
It's an adaptation of a well known character so no not new in that sense, but still a first theatrical release.

It would be better to say that nothing in the theater is original rather than nitpicking past works.

>>80663600
Sony needs to keel over and die already.

dont got shit to do with just hollywood. look around
>musicians bringing back and referencing old styles
>tv shows being rebooted and reimagined
>video game series getting rebooted, brought to roots
>advertisement and products from the 90s (clear pepsi, old lucky charms mascot design back, trix rabbit, etc.)
we're in a transitional age where a lot of things are changing due to people getting older. children who grew up in the 90s are now old enough to buy shit so the big wigs are tapping into that. there's still plenty fresh shit coming out as well as being worked on as we speak. give it some time and this referential era will die down.

>>80663955
One of the things that has been happening in the last 30-40 years is that the money & buying power has shifted to an older demographic. It takes longer to get careers going, pay & benefits aren't as good, and meanwhile boomers have fat old-school pensions and investments and whatnot. So yeah I agree, more movies are targeted at people 35 and up now who are nostalgic for Transformers and whatever bullshit from childhood and have money.

>>80663955
that always happens though, everything reverts back 20 years, now it's the 90's before it was the 80's in the 90's it was the 70's.

Are flame shirts and flip phones going to make a return next decade?

>>80664050
>Are flame shirts and flip phones going to make a return next decade?
>flip phones
shit maybe, remember when everyone had big phones? then everyone had tiny phones? now we have big phones again.
>flame shirts
those were never cool

>>80664050
The 90s were good though. Current year not so much

>>80663665
I wonder how many times his nose has been punched in.

Honestly, Hollywood's been pure shit for a very long time. You can look at any of the last few decades and see tons of shit releases we just choose to forget.

>>80664073
most of the pre-9/11 decades were good

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>>80664066
we have big phones cuz boomers are going blind and can't see shit.

but nokia is re-releasing their original brick phone at the end of the year, you know the 3310.

>>80662967
>Hollywood is lazy/uncreative/not bold enough to come up with truly new ideas
People have good ideas, but the movie companies won't take a risk to bankroll something that they don't know will be successful. Instead we get predictable movie "franchises".

Hollywood was creative until it realized that plebs don't care if something is creative or not

>>80664152
I had one of those. I got pissed and threw it through my drywall, it made a perfect phone-shaped hole.

Fished it out and it was totally fine. Those fucking things were indestructible.

>>80664152
with a brand new color screen at that. i wonder if you can still chuck the new ones across concrete without breaking them

>>80664280
>>80664255
doubt it, they're owned by Microsoft now.

>>80662967
>1. Hollywood is lazy/uncreative/not bold enough to come up with truly new ideas

No. Hollywould could hire the most talented people in the world if they wanted - but they don't need to.

It's entirely down to money. Since people can watch HD movies on their huge TV screens at home now, there is little need to go to the cinema. So Hollywood opt for safe options with proven franchises instead of experimenting with something new.

This is reinforced with the insane cost of making films in Hollywood now. Making something new is too risky for investment.

>>80664296
Currysoft never bought Nokia entirely. And the contract ended in 2014.
Company was bought by some Ranjeet Dikshit, the brand name belongs to some finnish manufacturer and the manufacturing belongs to Foxconn.

>>80664400
interesting, but I don't know what that means for durability

>>80664417
Other poster - I agree, if they remake it it won't be as durable. For one thing they were heavy and they will want a new one to be light, which means it won't go through walls anymore.

>>80664417
Durability meme ended for Nokia the second they stopped manufacturing their devices in Europe and outsourced it to chinks.

The last phones that got off the line in the Hungarian manufacturing plant were early in the the Symbian S60 era, so somewhere around 2004-2006 I think.

>>80662967
It's probably because the easiest ways to watch movies is through piracy. Piracy cutting into profits made it so studios had to go with ideas that are "safer" like going with established franchises. It's naive to say that we've run out of ideas to put in films. The medium has existed for barely a hundred years. And unless you're only listening to music released on major labels then you should know that there is constantly new and interesting music coming out. Music obviously takes a much lower price to create so there are plenty of smaller bands releasing innovative music on independent record labels

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>>80662967
>hollywood is lazy/uncreative/not bold enough to have new ideas
I think there could be a 4th option as to why. Shekels.

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>>80664734
I can't say fuck you enough for posting such complete fucking bullshit. Fuck you.

>>80662967
No, americans and the chinese have a majority of dipshit middle and lower class, these people being the primary audience of their shitty movies.

Why can't you be like Japan America? We deal with dumb fucking chinese across river for so long and you just sell more dumb shit to them and they stay dumb

>>80663741
>>80663705
That animated dvd movie is better than this mess.

What the FUCK do you know about creativity, millenial?

>>80664869
>be more like Japan
We should watch cartoons and be pedophiles?
>implying Japan has more class

Who played Gargamel?

>>80660409
>how dead is Hollywood in terms of creativity?

Pretty dead. Biggest reason for all remakes, reboots and adaptations of other popular media is brand recognition making lowest risk to market.

One huge problem is death of mid-budget cinema being almost dead, that will stagnate hollywood even further. Since there is pretty much nothing between 100 million + budget blockbusters and indies, getting new creative talent to Hollywood is becoming harder. Giving massive projects to relatively inexperienced directors and writes has massive risks, pool of talent they have now is pretty much same that they will have in future.

If blockbusters start to make less profit, they will start to take new approaches.

>>80664296

They only sold phone division to Microsoft and licensed brand and some patents to them for few years. Now Nokias main businesses are networks, R&D and patent lawsuits.

>>80664400

They just hired some poo-in-the-loo for CEO. Company is owned by whoever owned it before they quit manufacturing phones.

>>80664517
>Durability meme ended for Nokia the second they stopped manufacturing their devices in Europe and outsourced it to chinks.

Durability died when touch screens became a thing and people wanted to have thin and light phones. Durability isn't really even that big factor as phones now become obsolete due to lack of support much faster and batteries are internal so those will degrade as well.

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>>80663552
>!
Haha,stupid faggot started shouting like crazy. My sides.

>>80663506
Nah. Thats an unfounded assertion.