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>>80638085
come up with better trekthread OPs you fucking faggot

I'm really getting tired of these Barclay holodeck trek threads.

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>>80638085
>Computer, generate a universe where I'm not a 27 year old kissless vigin
>Unable to comply with your request ... virgin

>>80638085
The Doctor is the most overrated Trek character in history.

>>80638114
>>80638667
>Darmok threads
>Transporting Is Murder threads
>Barclay's Holodeck Degeneracy threads
These are /trek/'s holy trinity of threads for casuals making low-quality posts.

serious post here. how many times did the safety protocols fail on their own? it felt like every second voyager episode the holodeck was going crazy. why not just shut it down till you fixed it.

>>80638873
The Doctor should have had his own show.

>>80638085
> it's the unfunny OP

jkys

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I will watch the first episode that gets recommended to me in this thread, no matter how shitty or good. Choose wisely

>>80638982
Up until he became "muh photonic rights" maybe.

>>80639299
TOS The City on the Edge of Forever

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>>80639299
Samaritan Snare
>the ' villaines' are actually the good guys and shitpost on /trek/

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OP's a clueless kligger who can't come up with good OPs

you should just look at a controversial ep and ask the q's

eezy peezy

like, what the fuck was up with these guys?

why didn't we see the memory stealers again?

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>>80639299
Do you feel it too, brother?

>>80639124
i wonder how many thousands of crew members have been lost to exploding touchscreens

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>>80639667
you would think plasma conduits had been safely upgraded by the 24th centurry

the failings of post-scarcity

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>>80638960
We never have these problems at the Daystrom Institute

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>>80639352
Season 7 Voyager is some of the worst trek ever conceived, other than all of Tos

>>80638982
Voyager basically became Seven and the Doc: The Series.

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Why didn't Barclay just create a replicatable pattern for Data's brain while he is ultra smart and then have 99% of Starfleet just be Data clones with maybe a few human crew members to smooth things out

Voyager is the most underrated Trek show

>>80640398
Data's transporter trace was on file if anyone wanted to make clones.

>>80640442
You're thinking of Enterprise.

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>>80640398
Data would lose what made him unique, and he would be turned into a race of slaves.

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>>80640383
Just like how TNG has the best ensemble cast but the movies are Picard, Data and the rest

>>80638960
>Darmok threads
Temarc

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>>80640398
Because he was under control of the Citherians' probe and could get to them the quickest by way of the neural interface

>Computer, delete this

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give me some DS9 episodes to watch. finally gonna give this series a chance.

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>>80640103
>tfw you see a new crew member at navigation and know they are going to die that episode

>>80640789
it's serialized; you have to watch it all; black captain

>>80640789
watch Let He Who Is Without Sin…

it will really set the tone for DS9 and tell you what its all about

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>>80640103
>pulaski just chillin' while dude's head is about to explode

>>80640789
Diehard DS9 fans recommend "Move Along Home" (S01E10) as the best episode to start with, as it has a compelling main plot with high-stakes adventure, as well as strong character development.

>>80640789
Any episode with Gul Dukat

>>80640789
If you watched TNG then you probably like O'Brien. Therefore, I recommend "Whispers" and "Hard Time", which are good O'Brien episodes.

Also, just watch it from the beginning.

And ignore >>80640915 and >>80640919.

>>80640789
i just started ds9

you might as well watch the whole thing

>>80640848
How often did any Trek have a character on for a couple episodes to get you used to them and then kill them off shockingly or otherwise? I think Voyager did it a few times.

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>>80640919
>when you spot the patrician but you still on a mission

>>80640789
Ignore >>80641034, he's bait troll baka desu

>>80638085

he was far better as Murdock in the A-team tv series.

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>>80638085
MFW all of star trek was just a dream in the mind of a hologram inside the death star.

>>80641094
DS9 had shocking twists with Neela, Muniz and ED DING TON.

>>80641281
Your post would be far better without that unnecessary carriage return.

>>80638873
Doctor who?

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>even in the future after you've joined Starfleet, you still shitpost on future 4chan in your off time

>>80641386
>implying the next Celeb photo leak doesn't get 4chan taken down

wew

>>80641462
>get 4chan taken down

They said the same thing about the pirate bay

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>>80640789

DS9 spoiler
in season 6 they reveal the whole show is a period piece about racism in the 40s-50s

>>80641386
>go home after hard day doing starfleet weeks
>go on future 4chan
>post feels about your crush on Dax
>find leaked Kira nudes
>shitpost memes about your nignog we wuz captainz
>decide to ask about some more perverted holodeck programs about underage asians
>'Miles, when are you coming to bed!?'
>'Just a moment Keiko, chatting with Julien!'

>>80638085
Where do I start this series?

Beginning chronologically? Any versions to miss?

>>80641340
Joe, you dense motherfucker.

Why are they talking English on TNG? Does that mean that America unifies earth?

>>80641685
start with TNG

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>>80641685
The show is linear, therefore start at the beginning.

DS9 is a non-linear show presented linearly so you can just hop around and figure out the pieces later like Memento.

>>80641685
TOS or TNG, if you can stand the campiness of TOS then there, otherwise TNG. TNG also starts out with the FIRST EPISODE with Q the encounter at farpoint.

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"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

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Dr. Bashir, I'm Section 31

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>>80641832
You're a big hologram

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>>80641832
No one knew who I was until I put on the chip.

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>>80641934

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>>80641922

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>It's a "Dragonball x Star Trek" crossover episode

couldn't believe Q had such a shitty powerlevel desu

>>80641708
Everyone speaks in their native language. You hear English because every viewer is issued a universal translator.

>>80641795
Belligerent and numerous.

>>80639361
good recommendation lad, was enjoyable

>>80642053
Why do their lip movements correspond to English sounds?

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>tfw the entire fucking enterprise keeps calling you an unfunny nickname

>tfw want to die bit by bit more and more each day.

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I did shakespear you know

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>>80642153
The universal translator also translates the movements from other people's faces and lips and uses a deflector assembly to project a holographic image overtop of your face so that new species see what would look like a human or other alien with a UT talking in their native language.

>>80641922
ZINDA

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Captain! Sensors indicate there's a Klingon right behind you! Permission to fire all photon torpedoes directly at the bridge and detonate the warpcore!

>>80642334
Request denied. Shut up, Worf.

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>>80642393

>>80642195
Was there ever a character that was more /tv/ than broccoli? How did TNG writers get him so right?

>>80638085

Voyager season 2 has a lot of really good episodes.

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>>80642493
wtf nigger, season 2 had three good episodes and the rest were Kazon shit shows

are you high?

>>80642491
They fucked his character in voyager

>>80642493
>Threshold

>>80642491
they had the experience of 100s of those conventions and 1st hand experience with syntehsized mutli-spectral autism so it wasn't like it was much of a feat

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> Captain. When I am alone with Chief O' Brien, he makes me do things. Things that I do not believe it is right for me to do.

>>80642491
I identify more as a combination of Riker (pussy-slayer) and Wesley (natural genius), but all in all I'm ultimately a combination of Kirk (alpha leader) and Picard (philosopher-king)

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DARMOK?

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Who would win?

>everyone in Startreks got a universal translator computer installed in their brain

>but for some reason fucking Klingons can over ride the translation protocols and speak full untranslated klingon

Fucking Klingon hacks.

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>>80642672

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D R O P P E D

>>80642704
Jake was laidback cool intellectual type who said fuck it to the Starfleet bullshit.

Wesley was just a cunt.

queers queerin up a queer thread

>>80642704
Jake is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred to be that way, because of his high thighs and big thighs that go up into his back and he can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs.

This goes back all the way to the Civil War when the slave owner would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have a big black kid.

>>80641982

This is the worst episode in TNG that doesn't revolve around the Crushers.

>>80642544

Meld
Death Wish
Lifesigns
Investigations
Tuvix

>tfw Worf literally never has a good idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edflm7Hh3hs

>>80643202
see what I mean, even though they were technically good episodes
..anything where the kazon are heavily featured i forget about

>>80643202
Meld is the best episode of any Star Trek series

>>80643220
>Recommend we go to yellow alert, Sir!
>Why?
>..uh..
>Explain.
>..S-sorry, Sir.

kek

>>80643220
Season 1 & 2 footage seems so incredibly cheesy compared to later footage, almost like a series from a different era

>>80640103
What exactly did Nagiwhat'shisface do here? Slowly melt his brains?

>>80640917
Why do old women get so damned ugly while men get so much better looking?

>>80642741
>it's a "Brent wants a chance to show he's a real actor" episode

>>80643636
Told him they revoked his EBT card for the next 6 months

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>>80643657
because you take up the a$$hole

>>80643502
Adding the collars to the uniforms did wonders. The dumb faux neckerchief from Seasons 1 and 2 made them look dated, even at the time.

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>>80643922
What was google implying by this?

>>80642999
good post

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>>80643825

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>>80644260
>Ladies and gentlemen
>and all transgendered species

>>80642999
>it's a "Jimmy the Greek on the holodeck starring Joe Piscopo" episode

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>>80644368

>>80642704
Wesley got raped by a spacepedo, so I think Jake wins by default.

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>>80644455
>Wesley got raped by a spacepedo

how fuckin' ahead of it's time was TNG

everybody talks about the PADDS and communicators but they literally predicted Pedosta down to the facial features

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>>80644512
You don't actually believe that stupid pizzagate shit, do you?

>>80645121
Why the fuck does Picard have so many tablets?

>>80645187
Star Trek failed to predict that we'd be able to store ludicrous amounts of data on a chip the size of a pinkie nail by 2010.

>>80645121
>stupid
>p!zzagate
>shit

yeah, it must be. how could i be so paranoid?
even on a dead trek thread, they're everywhere
you've got egg on your face, "anon"

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what did he mean by this

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>>80645274
>mfw Data proudly states his neural network can store "terabytes" of information

>>80645398
Means he wants to test out the Borgs Queens superior cybernetically enhanced vagina that injects your dick with heroin when you cum

>>80645729
would you do it? with the Borg Queen?

>>80643922
No. Seriously. Why?
Is it like, natures revenge, just desert, comeuppance, or something?

>>80645788
Hell yeah. Who wouldn't? The Borg have assimilated the sexual techniques of thousands of cultures.

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>>80638960
>>80638114
>>80638667
At least it's more creative than Dukat did nothing wrong. Speaking of which, he did nothing wrong.

>>80638085
Was he /our guy/?

>>80645881
Yes. Barclay was a very deliberate jab at the autistic fanbase

Watching TOS for the first time after having seen all other Trek.
It's refreshing to see the Prime Directive treated as a sensible guideline rather than some dogmatic pseudo-theology.

Imagine Picard threatening to blow up an entire planet inhabited by billions to save his crew and end a conflict he found silly. Or hell, ending a 10,000 year old computer-guided civilization because he felt 'freedom' was a better way to live. Picard would have probably blown up his own ship to preserve the Vaal followers' way of life

>>80645414
Data's storage capacity is 80 quadrillion bits I think
Which is 10 petabytes, still a rather large amount of Data for Data but questionable considering he remembers shit with an eidetic memory and audio precision since his birth.
He must have some compression algorithms that aren't lossless

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Name a more redpilled scene in star trek.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytzGInyyFHU

After going through the cultural marxist writing of the entire franchise this was a welcome change

>>80645977
i bet you believe in pizza gate and vote for trump

>>80642491
Barclay, despite being an autistic fuck, was a brilliant engineer. No one on /tv/ has skills on that level.

>>80645799
does it matter tho? I mean, when you get old, does it really matter how you look like anymore? I wouldn't care, though sure, I do like me some handsome older men/women, but it really isn't something you think about IRL when you interact with real people instead of pics or vids of celebs or whoever.

>>80645949
A petabyte isn't that much. Large corporations and governments have that much storage for some of their departments. NSA in particular stores many petabytes worth of data from all their internet trawling. For an Android in the 2300s it's a laughably small amount of storage capacity.

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>>80646108
stop making fun of Data
he's best bot

>>80646187
It kind of makes sense that his specs are so low tech for the time though. Explains why Geordi can constantly come up with solutions Data never considered.

>>80646314
Please keep in mind that there are universal limits on computation.

>>80646801
Yeah? There's also a universal limit on how fast you can travel, doofus

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>>80646940

go back to r/Amphibians you degenerate fuck

>>80638085
>computer, create Christina Hendricks, Alexandra Daddario, Milana Vayntrub, and Kat Dennings in a typical suburban household
>increase scale of simulation by 500%
>give them an extremely high rate of arousal
>disengage all safety protocols
>lock down this holodeck and do not accept any input commands after the simulation is started
>begin

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>>80642704

Neither.

>>80647575
Didn't read your post. Seriously, I stopped reading after Christina Hendricks. Did not read your fucking post

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>>80646027
I'll take that as a yes.

>>80646017
I bet you're black

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How does the transporter not filter out food, water, poop, urine, and intestinal bacteria?

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What are the chances that, despite the continuity destruction and executive meddling, we'll at least get some high quality writing and/or some great, memorable characters?

I mean, the Babylon 5 we got was a completely mangled version of JMS's original vision, riddles with production problems, and it still turned out a great show. The same could happen with Discovery, right?

>>80649636
Modern J J Abrams type shit that'll be praised for it's great diversity and all muslim cast.

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>>80649589
O'Brien beams it into the replicator system.

>>80649636
Yeah, sure, I trust some of STD's writers.

Menosky and Meyer at Toronto. Menosky and Meyer in the writers' room.

So I only found out yesterday that Marina Sirtis was putting on an accent as Troi, and my main question is why?

It sounds retarded and it doesn't even make sense in-universe, none of her family or other Betazoid citizens sound like her.

>>80650000
>shit tier porn actress
next

>>80650000
>it doesn't even make sense in-universe, none of her family or other Betazoid citizens sound like her.
Are you not linear?

None of this was true when she started.

>>80640470

datas posotronic brain worked on quantum level, the resolution isn't there, you couldn't just replicate it

just as you couldn't replicate a human and not have it fall off the pad as a dead piece of meat

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>>80650000

probably less about character and being more about something dumb americans can understand

>tfw quads

>>80641751
This post is aggressive

Adversarial

>>80646108
>NSA in particular stores many petabytes worth of data from all their internet trawling.

Understatement of the century.

Backblaze, a company you've probably not heard of, who does data backup has about 250 Petabytes worth of data stored.

NSA would dwarf this by a few units of power, back in 2012 the governor of Utah let slip that one of the NSA's data storage facilities would be in the first to be able to hit and store a yottabyte of data.

>>80649636
>I mean, the Babylon 5 we got was a completely mangled version of JMS's original vision, riddles with production problems, and it still turned out a great show. The same could happen with Discovery, right?

Most of Babylon 5 production issues was about actors, budgets and PTEN falling apart. Some bigwigs at WB hated 'em, but they didn't meddle with the show directly. Micromanaging executives are the issue with STD according to all rumors.

We have more similar example with TNG and shieet that happened behind camera during first two seasons of it with Gene and his trusty lawyer. I'm not sure does Trek have enough fanbase and inertia to carry it trough over couple shitty seasons as now struggling shows are axed lot faster.

>>80649636
you won't even get the show

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>It's a Q episode

>>80645850
Threadly reminder that Cardassian women show affection by acting with hostility. Every Cardassian though she was a massive slut who constantly lusted after Dukat. The whore, he is a married man!

Also given their cultural briefings every Starfleet officer knew that as did half the population of Bajor, no bothered to tell her because it was a hilarious running joke.

>>80650513
I was being conservative but no way can even the NSA store a yottabyte of data. That much storage would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. A yottabyte is a trillion terabytes. Lets say the US government manages to somehow get the cost per terabyte down to $0.20 that's still 200 billion dollars worth of hard drives.

Maybe it has the potential to be upgraded to store that much at some point in the future, it wouldn't even be close right now though.

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>>80650513

There is one big difference between Datas positronic brain and NSA server farms. Size.

We are closing the physical limit how small individual transistors on chips can be made as we speak. Moore's law is starting to become obsolete.

In early 2000's 32 bit processors were becoming hot as fuck with ever increasing clock speeds, 64 bit processors allowed same computing power with less actual power consumption and heat. Before 64 bit processors went same route as 32 bit ones software side solved issues with it had earlier with parallel processing and we got bailed out of it. Modern supercomputers are good example of that parallel processing on massive scale. Those aren't like super computers of 80's or early 90's. Those are literally cheapest and most reliable chips, possibly bit obsolete and issue free processors... just in massively parallel setups.

Local university had the fastest super computer in the world outside of US military industrial complex or NSA for few months in early 90's. Decade later desktop PCs were roughly in same ballpark when it comes raw performance. FLOPS, amount of RAM, hard drive space and so on. Fast forward another decade... smart phones were on same level. In two decades computing power of house sized supercomputer costing ten million or so ended up in pocket with low three digit price tag.

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>>80651222

>It's a 'Kira defends murdering Cardassian and Bajoran civilians during the occupation' episode

>>80652320

$200 billion is nothing. Remember that time Donald Rumsfeld said $2.3 trillion were missing from Pentagon funds and then everyone forgot about it?

>tfw literally no good news about discovery

they're gonna can this shit before it even airs

>>80652904
They just announced a well-liked actor and a qtpi actress. You have unreasonable standards.

>>80653060
who pham, i want to believe

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>>80653142
Cute.

CUTE!

>>80653060
It's going to be catered to the plebs who liked JJ Trek.

>>80653236
You're in the wrong conversation, dummy.

Reminder that if you hate Sub Rosa you hate Star Trek and you should fuck off to watch another show or DS9

>>80638085
Stardate 41299
Call: 23:38 - Maintenance (non-emergency)
Complainant: Computer Dispatch

Report: This was a good one. I get a computer pop-up on my console telling me to report to acting Ensign Wesley Crusher's room in his mother's suite. It's flagged non-urgent so I take care of some other crap and then make my way down. Commander Crusher is sitting on her sofa in tears and there is a medical team and an engineering team already down there. Turns out Wesley decided he wanted a "giant rubber vagina" (direct quote from Lt. Barclay) and it came out of the replicator a bit more suddenly than Wesley had expected. One end of the thing got wedged in the replicator slot and the other end ballooned out of the replicator and pinned him to the floor of his room. The engineering team had to set their phasers to shame to get him out of that predicament. Unfortunately, by the time I showed up, he was long gone and there were just pieces of rubber left in the replicator that needed some work.

I'll never let that little prick live this one down.

Status:Hilarious.

>>80647698
Never fucking reply to me ever again.

>>80653197

Oh nice she's already wearing the forehead prosthetic.

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>>80638960
Are you forgetting something Commander?

>>80653609
Sub Rosa was garbage

>>80653904
That's just a single shitpost, not an entire thread.

>>80653905
nice meme
there was nothing wrong with that episode

>>80653962
Go on. So what's your justification for declaring it a "meme" to dislike Sub Rosa?

>>80654127
>I have to justify it when people can only say "it's bad" and "is stupid" as an argument against the episode

>>80654214
You never provided an argument for the episode, but at least nobody sunk to your level and called you a contrarian.

>>80652320
>that's still 200 billion dollars worth of hard drives.

You don't only use hard drives for data storage, anon. Look up magnetic tape cartridges.

>>80654214
It's bad. It's generally considered one of the worst TNG episodes and one of the worst overall Trek episodes. It's a bad Harlequin romance in Trek form.

>>80654287
I did, I said that if you hate that episode you hate Star Trek, which is true.

>>80640789
Duet is a solid first season episode. Very similar to the best TNG episodes.

>>80643398
holy shit i was as speechless as worf

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>>80645824
underratted comment

At what season does it start to get good? I've heard at season 4

>>80657565
TNG? Season 3. 1 and 2 are very dated. 3 is where it starts to pick up culminating in one of the best season finales ever.

>>80657565
it doesn't if you are a millenial

Should I watch DS9 after TNG? I've heard it's good but the cast lacks. TNG has a strong central cast and I don't want to be disappointed.

>>80657833
Does being 21 count as millenial cuz I loved the show from S2 onward.

>>80658212
DS9 cast is actually better with actual characters unlike TOS and TNG/VOY

>>80658306
Sounds great. I also heard the story is entirely non-linear, is this true?

>>80658212
The cast gets more development than the TNG cast. A lot of the TNG cast is really lacking.

For example, what can you remember about Troi? Does she have any character at all other than "likes chocolate"?

>>80658384
The story is entirely linear.

There are some aliens that live outside of linear time, but even our heroes interact with them in a linear manner.

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>>80658402
>what can you remember about Troi?

Cleavage.

>>80646027
Well the way I figure it... if they have nothing on the inside, as so many of them do, then all they ever have is on the outside. So when they finally lose that... then they really are left with nothing to offer at all.

>>80658914
Eww...

>>80658914
She should have worn a standard uniform. That costume is as unnecessary as your additional carriage return.

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>It's a 'Picard guilt trips a raw ensign into volunteering for a suicide mission' episode

>>80659838
she was a bajoran so who cares

>>80640277
>hates TOS
>hates last season of Voyager

Maybe you just don't Star Trek. Most of TOS, TNG, and the last season of Voyager was my favorites.

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>>80640789

Here you go, slick.

>>80660150
>here's the biased list
>lol they are all good!

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>>80660300

The spoiler free content reminders are reason enough to download the pic. Of course the ratings are somewhat subjective.

>>80650201
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh then how did the transportation machine replicate him from one place to the other?

>>80660675
because it doesn't replicate it transports the original to another place

>>80639371
The Pakleds will never cease to amuse me.

>>80660729
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Thomas Riker?

>>80661312

an atmospheric anomaly caused that

but why the fuck nobody goes and tries to study that so they can turn it into a regular technology is beyond me

>muh federation laws

the ferengi wouldn't care..

If i was in charge of a new startrek show I would put it after voyager and actually advance the startrek memes to deal with the real LONG term impacts all the crazy shit they encountered throughout the other shows means for society..

I want to lick Marina Sirtis sweaty Greek cunt.

>>80661581
>If i was in charge of a new startrek show I would put it after voyager and actually advance the startrek memes to deal with the real LONG term impacts all the crazy shit they encountered throughout the other shows means for society..
Dollhouse did that and it was freaking bonkers dude

>>80661651

funny you say it was one of my favorite shows ever, shame joss got gypped out of a longer run on that too..

>>80661854
Mine too! Underrated SF.

I would kill for a Vernor Vinge type Trek show where the implications of the technologies were fully explored.

Would also accept an Andromeda style Trek where 24th century tech is used to deal with the aftermath of an apocalypse, if posthuman stuff isn't palatable to modern audiences

>>80653197

this bitch is disgusting.

nigger currly haired potato farmer chick with a big jaw is like the antithesis of cute

>>80638085
>>80638114
TMML :P
<vbg>

>>80641628
that would be hilarious if it was. Though, in case you're serious, the exact opposite was true. Sisko was dreaming.

>>80662769
feel free to shut the fuck up any time now

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>computer, run scenario: "I hate you so goddamn much, Keiko"
>create 5 no...6 additional copies of Keiko O'brien
>lower simulated pain threshold for copies of Keiko O'brien
>create a variety of medieval-era human hand held weaponry and torture devices
>oh, and also add 2 copies of Keiko O'brien in her childlike physical state as she appeared following the transporter incident in 2369
>yes computer, make sure the child Keiko's have their hymens intact
>disengage safety protocols

>>80654325
>it's ok for the enterprise to be possessed by Jack The Ripper but god forbids there is a ghost house that is actually an entity that feeds on human lust

I wish there were a Star Trek musical episode. Virtuoso does not count.

>>80645977
how was this scene allowed?

>>80645977

without context this is fucking bizarre

I only barely remember that episode. What were the hirogans doing with nazis in the holodeck?

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I am.. ohhh.. Happy BIIIRTTHHHDAYYYY

Mr. Emperooorr..

>>80663849

They took over Voyager and took the Holodecks and the ship's internal floors apart (well, made Kim do it) to create a massive Holodeck to use as a hunting ground to satisfy their hunting lust.

Janeway resolves the conflict by allowing the Hirogen to take Starfleet hologram technology so they can satisfy their urges and develop a society that isn't just "travel around hunting shit"

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>>80664476
you're telling me that a Starfleet captain
readily gives over a highly exploitable
technology like a holodeck to a race of
brutal savages in space ???

>>80664707

Yeah. Janeway's hardcore like that. The meta plot here is to illustrate just how much Voyager's trials in the Delta Quadrant aka Space Liberia has forced her to bend her principles. In season one she steadfastly refused to give the Kazon replicators because muh abuse.

>>80664772
holographic technology wasn't as sensible as replicators

>>80665110

Replicators are way more dangerous than holodeck tech imo. Replicators make real weapons, holograms don't have personal emitters.

>>80642021
Didn't you watch Star Trek Super? They can't detect God Ki.

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who shed hot manly tears during "Sarek" S03 Ep23"?

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>Scene at the frontlines on AR-558
>"It Ain't Me" starts playing

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>>80665695

OOOH THEY'RE RED, WHITE AND BLUE

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>>80665315
why did you have to make your post gay by saying "hot manly" instead of just manly?

I didn't shed tears, it was a good performance, but I'll thank if if what i shed is just manly and not "hot manly"

thank you

>>80666210
someone is on the rag...

>>80665695
>"It Ain't Me"

is this some kind of meme? you know the song is called "Fortunate Son", right?

>>80638085
>>80638835
You are good people.

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>tfw you try to be a good person in a trekthread bc you realize trek trained to be a good person and there is no inherent morality

>>80645121
>that many ipads

Dude get a grip. You love Apple we get it.

>>80668010
>"The Joker to the Thief" starts playing

>>80663849
>without context this is fucking bizarre

Because everygoldman knows jews dindu nuffinberg

>>80663509
>how was this scene allowed?

I know! It's almost like they're trying to make white people look evil. It's racist as fuck.

>>80645977
>nazis always shown as handsome and charismatic
No wonder basement dwellers fall in love with them.

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>>80647688

Cute never lasts, brethren

>>80662769
>Sisko was dreaming.

Or was he....?

>>80672630

https://youtu.be/xeDOe0kZDhk

If only...

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Is Q the best character in TNG?

Just watched blood fever in Voyager. The doc tried to stop the Ponn Farr by letting the vulcan engage in sex with a hologram. It was fucking wierd.

>>80673316
And people here still hate ENT, what a world

>>80660335
Do you have one with Voyager?

>>80673966
Check the link at the bottom.

>>80664772
>The meta plot here is to illustrate just how much Voyager's trials in the Delta Quadrant aka Space Liberia has forced her to bend her principles. In season one she steadfastly refused to give the Kazon replicators because muh abuse.
Or is it written by someone who didn't really have knowledge?

>>80673635
that's not tasha yar

>>80642999
Are you saying Jake has an extra bone in his ankle?

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>>80639299
>TNG: Shades of Grey

>>80674017
It stops in the middle of the second season, at the very worst fucking episode. I am in the beginning of the third season and would like some pointers at what is ahead. Gonna have to do without. Thanks man for your help.

>>80640249
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW

>>80661581
>an atmospheric anomaly caused that
This does not simply handwave away the fact that the transporter cloned Riker.

>>80674418
Without that atmospheric anomaly, the transporter is incapable of creating Thomas. Thus, the atmospheric anomaly gets the credit, not the transporter.

>>80674552
Hey bitch
>After examining the transporter logs, Geordi La Forge informs the crew that apparently there was a massive energy surge in the distortion field around the planet just at the moment Riker tried to beam out. The transporter chief at that time tried to compensate by initiating a second containment beam. However, Commander Riker's pattern maintained its integrity by just the one containment beam. And even though the second beam was shut down, somehow it was reflected back to the surface, and another William Riker materialized there. The containment beam must have had the exact same phase differential as the distortion field – hence the two identical Rikers – they both rematerialized from a complete pattern and are identical.

The transporter cloned him. It kills you and reconstructs you from your pattern every time.

>>80674798
>The containment beam must have had the exact same phase differential as the distortion field – hence the two identical Rikers – they both rematerialized from a complete pattern and are identical.
No distortion field == No Thomas

>>80674846
>they both rematerialized from a complete pattern
Do you realize what this means? It means the transporter assembles your pattern out of the available molecules it has and reconstructs you. It doesn't take your molecules and move them somewhere.

Each containment beam has the ability to create a person from their pattern. You need more molecules than there are in one person to do that.

>>80674997
>It doesn't take your molecules and move them somewhere.
Yes it does. But the distortion duplicated the molecules.

>Each containment beam has the ability to create a person from their pattern. You need more molecules than there are in one person to do that.
The number of containment beams has no effect on the number of materializations. Two containment beams was still going to materialize only one Riker, until the distortion duplicated him.

>>80658402

She's also a huge slut.

>>80674130
watch it all and then do some guide yourself, so others can skip in the future.

also the dude whoever did these had some major bias towards DS9 trek.

>>80675479
That's not a revelation. Most people in these threads are biased towards DS9 over Voyager.

>>80660150

Got one of these for Voyager?

>>80675659
Check the link at the bottom.

>>80675518
This, millenials love their edgy bleak and dark soap opera. Probably makes them feel mature with their memes about le character development and how the federation "should be"

>>80675859
But you are a millennial.

>it's a Millennial Complains About Other Millennials episode
>it's an "I'm not like other millennials, I'm a special snowflake born in the wrong era" episode

Captain, we're out of episode ideas for a show that involves being in the largest and most imaginative setting conceivably possible. Suggest order?

Yes. Send the crew to the holodeck and have them pretend to be detectives from the 1940s.

>>80673691
They hate it because it isn't queer.

>>80645977
If you're already unhinged and pro-Nazi, then it might.
Actually effective "neo-Nazi" propaganda conflates the patriotic/anti-communist sacrifices of the apolitical/non-Nazi right wing in Germany with Nazi ideology/mysticism, just like the original Nazis did to win new recruits.

>>80675971
>le you are a millenial too meme

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>>80675974
>Computer, generate more holodeck episodes where something goes wrong with the holodeck and people forget about it in the next episode
>Computer, generate clip show from old holodeck episodes

>>80654214
Bullshit. In another thread there was a discussion of why it was bad and people went in-depth and you just said "lol well I like it stay mad XD".

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>>80641795
Doing God's work.

>>80676117
WHAT YEAR WERE YOU BORN FAGGOT. TELL ME THE GODDAMN YEAR YOU WERE BORN RIGHT NOW

>>80676140
>you just said

stop assuming everyone that shares an opinion is a singular person

>>80676216
1982

>>80676222
I refuse to believe more than one person will defend Sub Rosa.

>>80676274
You're a millennial.

>>80676274
YOU'RE A MILENNIAL

>>80639042
>jkys
oh fuck off you condecending shitlord, make a better OP if you dont like it

>>80676415
>shitlord
reddit detected, leave immediately.

>>80676301
no one ever replied to this >>80663133 tho
I guess you fake fans can't deal with the truth

Is Janeway insane or the Federations biggest hypocrite?

>>80676274
Guess what; you're a milennial:
>The majority of researchers and demographers start the generation in the early 1980s. Many end the generation in the mid-1990s. Australia's McCrindle Research[28] uses 1980–1994. A 2013 PricewaterhouseCoopers[29] report and Edelman Berland[30] use 1980–1995. Gallup Inc.,[31][32][33] Eventbrite[34][35] and Dale Carnegie Training and MSW Research[36] all use 1980–1996. Ernst and Young uses 1981–1996.[37] Manpower Group uses 1982–1996.[38]

>>80676129

>Sir, data is trying to ruthlessly murder people
>Finally Data is learning about what it means to be human

>>80676523
Who said it was okay for TOS? Most people give that episode a bad rating too. EAS gave it a 3/10, for example.

>>80673635
I'd like to see Richard Simmons in that role. Like the WLIIA skit except replace Colin with Picard.

>>80676636
then those people don't like Star Trek, it's just that simple

I bet they dislike the episode with the gangsters too

>>80663133
I'm not saying I liked that episode. Why are you thinking that everyone who dislikes your pet episode likes ALL the other episodes?

Besides, even if we accepted that the science-fiction in Sub Rosa is acceptable within Trek's universe, there are plenty of reasons for it to be declared bad as an episode of the show, namely the fact that it's basically the plot, tone, etc of a Twilight-esque romance novel hijacking a science-fiction show.

>>80676718
>you must like all episodes or else you don't like the show as a whole
This is why I think the defence of Sub Rosa is bait.

>>80676307
>>80676322
>>80676579
This guy got so thoroughly fucking destroyed that he's too embarrassed to even reply.

>>80676830
because those two episodes are quintessential Star Trek

>crew encounters strange phenomenon
>uses logic and science to solve the mystery and win
>turns out ancient superstitions were just things we couldn't understand back then

what's next? the episode with Apollo si bad too?

>>80676718
>If you do like what I don't like then you're not a real Star Trek fan.
>If you don't like what I do like then you're not a real Star Trek fan.
Just fuck off with this shit already.

>>80676940
The quality of an episode is dependent upon its execution, not the idea behind it.

Having an idea that's """quintessential""" Star Trek doesn't make up for having poor writing, poor directing or poor acting.

>>80677031
That's not true at all, the idea counts for at least part of it.

I just got done watching DS9's Past Tense 2 parter, and the execution is sometimes kind of hokey, but the idea is so good it carries it through at makes it very poignant to what we're dealing with right now (increased automation and technology leaving large classes of workers without work)

>>80677114
>That's not true at all, the idea counts for at least part of it.
Most people disagree and rate episodes based on their execution, not their idea.

See, if you would just say "I see things differently" then everybody could accept it and move on.

It's when you say "if you don't see things like I do then you don't like Star Trek" that you get called out as the baiting troll that you are.

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>>80652670
Is that a problem?

>>80677031
>Wolf in the Fold
>Sub Rosa
>bad acting
>poor directing

this coming from the people that praise Sisko's actor no stop and every episode of DS9, even the one with the stupid game, fucking hilarious.

and the writing was on par with every other episode, you people just dislike it because "lol it's silly and about muh epic war like DS9"

>>80677031
Dude, under what rock have you been living under where a star trek episode doesn't have poor acting from at least one regular cast member??

TOS: Shatner (everyone really)
TNG: I love Gates McFadden, but she's just a nice mom on a Hollywood TV show. She can't act her way out of a wet paper bag.
DS9: Pretty much everyone except Quark in the first season, most of them get better but Terry Ferrell is pretty terrible throughout.
VOY: Everyone except the Doc and Neelix
ENT: Hmm, just about everyone aside from Scott Bakula

>>80640789
Just fucking watch it all and form your own fucking opinion. Don't filter your consumption of a great sci-fi show through some other faggot's bias.

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>>80638085
>disengage safety protocols

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>>80676940
>because those two episodes are quintessential Star Trek
From a certain point of view, perhaps. I'll admit, I like the "noblebright" Lovecraftian elements of Star Trek (TOS especially), but generally only when they're done right, and doesn't cross over into saccharine cliched fantasy tropes, whose only shield is Clarke's Third Law.
>myths and legends were real!
>wooooo, 2spooky!
>they're actually just natural phenomena too advanced to understand though, so it's technically sci-fi though guys!

For me, though, the part I think Star Trek does best and is more original in doing is stuff like the famous Gorn episode, or the interactions with the Klingons, Borg, Ferengi, Cardassians, etc; it's about reaching understanding with fellow sentients and reaching an understanding with both the future and the unencountered phenomena in the universe and making the universe less spooky than it was before you encountered it, not "oh it was a space ghost best leave it alone because we can never hope to understand it, and to prevent it from infecting other old crones with its unknowable witchly powers".

>>80677254
>if you don't see things like I do then you don't like Star Trek
I never said that. I'm not even the guy you've been replying to. I'm disagreeing with your original point:
>Having an idea that's """quintessential""" Star Trek doesn't make up for having poor writing, poor directing or poor acting

>>80677376
>DUDE child molestation is awesome LMAO
Disregarding your post in 3, 2, 1...

>>80677444
>saying someone did a good acting job is endorsing the fictional character's viewpoints
I bet you're the kind of person who thinks actors who play villains are dicks in real life.

>>80677430
If this is true then I apologize for calling you a baiting troll.

The idea does indeed count for "part of it", but I think most people weigh the execution much more heavily when reviewing an episode. I base this opinion on a simple look over all the Star Trek reviewers out there. Focusing on the idea to the exclusion of the execution is an unusual occurrence, not the norm.

>>80677618
If you could give me at least one episode with a 10/10 premise/idea for the story but a terrible execution that's rated badly I'd be inclined to believe you, but just looking over the lowest rated episodes, the vast majority of them are stupid fanservice like Lwaxana episodes, or just lazy like Shades of Gray.

Sub Rosa has a really stupid premise and is totally garbage.

>>80677354
Are you obsessed with DS9? Nobody is talking about it except for you.

Even people who worked on Sub Rosa don't like it.
>At an Austin, Texas convention in 2012, Gates McFadden stated she wasn't very fond of this episode. "I was basically in love with a lamp! This woman is a doctor and falls in love with a lamp! How the hell does that work?"

>>80639299
>>80639361

and not

>>80639371


Fucking dodged a bullet there, fampai. Holy shit.

Why the fuck are there bump limits? There is no good reason for this thread to expire. This is the best star trek thread in ages and now it's on page 7 for no good reason.

>>80677840
>If you could give me at least one episode with a 10/10 premise/idea for the story but a terrible execution that's rated badly I'd be inclined to believe you,
This is literally the basis for the fandom's split on The Motion Picture.

Even if you personally love it, most of the fandom doesn't (hence the "odd movies are bad, even movies are good" meme).

>>80677376
It may have helped that Quark was written as a slimy, faux-emotional Ferengi businessman, rather than a stoic, upstanding, "muh Vulcan logic" Starfleet type.
I thought Dax was alright, when there was awkward delivery it kind of gelled well with the idea that this woman was actually a centuries-old parasite, it might not care for social graces or remember how to speak with consistent diction in its newest host.
One actor I've never liked is Miles O'Brien's actor. Guy's wooden and insincere as hell. It also doesn't help that the way he's written is indistinguishible from an American's mannerisms and subtle Americanisms (eg: "honey") sound unnatural in an Irish accent (which is in itself often an extra put-on for actors, even native ones, who have to try not to drift towards the accents of their colleagues).

Because otherwise people could rig bots that bumped threads into eternity, making the fight for any discussion on 4chan at all an eternal struggle.

Besides anon, All Good Things must come to an end.

>>80677844
because I know te kind o """people""" tha postin these threads

>>80678412
Are you having a stroke? Do you need a doctor?

>>80677963
>Doesn't know how to use an archive/save a web page.

Besides... this thread sucks slimy fagballs.

Back to plebbit, pleb.

>>80670187
I love that dude especially as Shran

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Daily reminder that Enterprise was the very best Star Trek series ever produced.

It was Star Trek done right.

No faggots
No feminism
No PC
Less technobabble
More realism
More character
Interesting aliens
Solid storytelling

Trektards hate it because it isn't gay enough.

>>80678835
This thread was just improved by 1000%

>>80678011
It's not rated badly though, it was pretty warmly received