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Why is /tv/ not excited about Valerian?

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>Based on the graphic novel that inspired Star Wars, Avatar, Mass Effect (videogame) and many more sci-fi movies.
>Over 200 alien species in one film
>Space and Time travel
>Original story, not a sequel or remake
>First time that 3 big visual effects studios are working together in one film. (ILM, Weta and Rodeo)
>Score by Academy Award winner Alexandre Desplat
>Luc Besson making a 20 year comeback to his science-fiction roots since "The Fifth Element"
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>>80593367
>Cara Manface with a 14 year old boy's body
NOPE
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>>80593367
im excited

original, colorful, not a part of any faggot hollywood trend, and probably wont pander to liberals, like all other big budget cunt-movies
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>>80593367
>all those fx houses working on it and the cgi still looks like cartoon dogshit

also the 2 leads are shit actors
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>>80593367
I'm excited. This movie is a dark horse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BszXhUjJz00
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>>80593458
how about the fact that she cant act you fucking goon
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>>80593367
people talked about it a lot when it was announced but they were mostly afraid of it sucking
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>over 200 alien species in one film
how is this a good thing?
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because it looks like shit and has that ugly talentless eyebrow dyke in it
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>>80593367
reminds me of that stupid disney mars movie
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It's going to have cringey French comedy bits in it that will embarrass people into saying they don't like it initially but the good elements will be what people remember over time, and it'll gain a cult following. Like the Fifth Element.
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>>80593367
It looks interesting, and i don't care how the MC's look like the autists above me, as long as they can act.
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>>80594695
>>80594177
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It's gonna bomb so, so, so hard. I want to laugh
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>>80593367
>Based on the graphic novel
>Original story, not a sequel or remake

>girl's suit has boob plates and looks like her neck's locked in a collar while the guy's doesn't
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BTW
>>80593367
>Based on the graphic novel that inspired Star Wars, Avatar, Mass Effect (videogame) and many more sci-fi movies.

This is horseshhhhhhhhhit. At least the Star Wars aspect. I read the graphic novels, the "star wars inspiration" thing is complete bullshit, it's basically that there's a guy with a mask that is not entirely dissimilar to Darth Vader, in that it's an ugly looking full face mask. But Vader's mask looks so much more like the source Lucasfilm maintains, ie a Samurai helmet, that I discount that entirely.

The other major bit is the carbonite frozen block from ESB, that does look pretty similar but that's about it.

It's not like they got the entire plot from it, or any of the plot.

The Valerian comics aren't just shittily plotted stories with decent but goofy art.
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>>80594842
>aren't just
are just
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>>80593573

Fuck you. DeHaan was fantastic in A Cure for Wellness.
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>>80593367
it should have come out 15 years ago when I was a kid and movies were still kino
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>>80594822
it's how the characters looked like, only white not blacked
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>>80594822

The guy's a space/time-traveller and he took her out of Earth during the Dark Ages. She's literally a stupid peasant that was given the chance to travel to the future and space in exchanging of her pussy.

So she better take his orders and put out. The guy's pretty much like a God to her.
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>generic boring sci-fi suits instead of extravagant costumes
yeah this is gonna be fucking awful.
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>>80594924
Yeah he was alright in A Cure for Sleeplessness.

Looked puffy though. He needs to put on some muscle so that when the drugs and alcohol keep puffing him up he has some place to spread it around.
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>>80594842
So you're saying it is coincidence?
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>>80593367
Same trite garbage we've seen a gorillion times.
They don't even bother putting a different skin on it anymore.
I can only speak for myself though.
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>>80593509
>original
>not a part of any faggot hollywood trend
I wish you were dead.
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>>80593367
Luc Besson is the ONLY reason why I'm going to waste my time watching this.

Just looks like a clusterfuck of CGI, fight sequences, sprinkled with uninspired one-liners. Don't have high hopes.
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>>80595085
>disc-shaped ship
Like a UFO?
>pretty girl in skimpy gold bikini
Like Dejah Thoris from A Princess of Mars, published in 1912?
>carbonite frozen block
This one I admitted
>Helmet that looks nothing like Darth Vader
Yeah, no
>guy with burned skin that's still alive
Yeah, bet they originated that idea
>alien that looks like giant insect
Yeah, super original

One out of six. Big fucking deal.
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>>80595085
george lucas drew inspiration from everything between westerns and samurai movies and combined the best aspects of them into one movie, besides it would be more plausible to link valerian as being the inspiration behind mcquarrie
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>>80594177
>>80594177
>>80594560
Luc has a point tho.
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>>80595253
>>carbonite frozen block
>This one I admitted
Frozen in a cube shit has been done for a long time in scifi.
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>>80595085
holy shit lucas is even more of a hack. how did he get away with this?
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I have hope that Besson will have the creative freedom to do some crazy shit with this movie. Practical fx are eminent.
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>>80595009
>>80594987
that doesn't explain, AT ALL, the costume difference
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the choice for leads is uninspired and makes it look like a YA movie

thats why im not really interested
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>>80595301
the only differences is the black color and the plating, everything else is 100% similar
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>>80595285
>Frozen in a cube shit has been done for a long time in scifi.
Yeah but it's the only one that's even close to being a ripoff though. And it still isn't.
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>>80595301
Chalk it up to shitty advertising, bud.
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>>80595282
Yeah, he's right if you assume that there's no such thing as good actors in the first place.
An actual good actor can bring the character to life in a way no one else would.
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>>80593367
>Luc Besson
Into the trash it goes.
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why are people talking about fucking star wars

fuck off to your containment thread discussing the latest cartoon

everyone knows star wars is a rip off of a bunch of things
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>>80595441
Everything is you humongous faggot.
This is a discussion board. If you dislike discussion then you are clearly the problem here.
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I'm actually very excited about this movie
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>>80595253
>>80594842
Okay, what about this?
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>>80595301

Yes, it does.

The girl's pretty much a peasant girl from the Dark Ages that was taken as slave by a time-traveller.
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>>80595085
>valerian invented circular space ships
>valerian invented bikinis
>valerian invented ice blocks
>valerian invented mysterious shrouded villains
>valerian invented burn victims
>valerian invented jews
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>>80595528
>green aliens with big eyes
>gorilla looking aliens
>landing strips
>forests
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>>80595253
>>80594842
>>80595085
>>80595253
>>80595254
>>80595562
>>80595618
And this?
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>>80595791
Are all of them coincidence anon?
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>>80595009
>She's literally a stupid peasant that was given the chance to travel to the future and space in exchanging of her pussy

This doesn't sound very SJW friendly. 15% on RT tops.
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>>80595085
>>80595528
>>80595791
>>80595996
WOW how the fuck did George Lucas get away with this?
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>>80596113
george lucas didn't rip off anything, it's all designed by ralph mcquarrie
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>>80595996

>DUDE LUCAS TOTALLY RIPPED OFF VALERIAN

You don't say. Better add it to the pile of the thousands of other things Lucas blatantly ripped off. This is the most autistic fucking thing I've ever seen.
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>>80595791
Nigga... these thumbnails are so fucking small I can barely make out what they're supposed to be.
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The only space opera I'm interested right now is the Legend of the Galactic Heroes remake, and that one is probably going to be disappointing
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wew even if you use "inspired" instead of "ripped off" George-Lucasfags get triggered
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I like the concept, and the graphic novel is very good

BUT

Cara Delevingne cannot fucking act, and will fuck this all up
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>>80596756
It really doesn't matter if he ripped it off.
We've still seen it before. I'm not gonna pay to see it again, especially with the way shit has been done in hollywood for the past 20 years.
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>>80594145
The orange blue contrast makes me fear it might suck.
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>>80596865
>complimentary colors trigger me
If you're gonna complain then at least make it a legitimate complaint.
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>>80595085
>>80595528
>>80595791
>>80595996

fucking christ star wars truly is the worst piece of shit to happen to cinema
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>>80596861
you do realize that hollywood has nothing to do with this film right?
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>>80593367
This is the kind of sci fi that's more akin to fantasy than to science and therefore i find it pretty uninspiring.
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>>80596969
I didn't. That makes me very slightly more optimistic.
Unfortunately from the trailers and the source material it still looks like the same shit we've seen a million times.
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>>80596909
Its overused way too much. They can get away with it on a few scenes but forcing them on the audience is just bad. They visit thousand planets and the colors are only orange and blue? Thats bull.
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>>80597039
All we've been seeing is scifi thats trying to be more serious though.
Aside from star wars.
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>>80596969
This.
>>80596861
Valerian is a French film and is not entangled to any Hollywood bullshit. It has its own freedom and that is what is going to make this a great film
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>>80597097
True. It very much is "babby's first color theory".
Still. You should have at least two or three different factors to base your impressions on and with most trailers there are plenty.
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>>80596819
This,he probably thought the casting was akin to Mila but he didn't realize Americans don't like cara
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>>80597174
>It has its own freedom
That only affords them a better opportunity.
It is by no means a guarantee.
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VALERIAN is going to FUCKING BOMB and the reason is because that cunt Besson hired an effeminate emo beta twink and a skanky pug ugly butch dyke as the leads.

Now, I'm a DIEHARD fan of The Fifth Element and have been fucking dying for Besson to come back to Sci-fi. But the second those leads were announced I knew the movie was FUCKING DOOMED! NO ONE will go to see this shit.

It's a fucking shame Besson didn't hire Chris Pratt and Karen Gillan as Valerian and Laureline because that would have been PERFECT casting. But NOOOOOOOO. Cast two metrosexual fuckfaces and fucking ruin the motherfucking project!!!FACT!!!
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>>80597174
Hope they get it right. Luc Besson haven't been critically relevant since the 90s.
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>>80593458
My fetish.
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>>80593367
Models and singers generally can't act.
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>>80597297
>All those sporadic allcaps words
You're not on reddit my man.
>It's a fucking shame Besson didn't hire Chris Pratt and Karen Gillan
pls go back
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>>80593367
This will be worse than Jupiter Ascending, calling it now
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>>80593367
>Luc Besson making a 20 year comeback to his science-fiction roots since "The Fifth Element"

just tell me he doesn't want a franchise about this like the other old farts
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>Luc Madsson
How can I be?
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>>80597237
The jumping on blue disc things triggers me. Orange/Blue beach scene is justified. If the placest atleast get the visual balance in terms of colorful scenery then they better atleast vary things. The Bar scene is a positive sign.
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I'm not trusting Besson after Lucy. Fuck that guy.

He made one good movie in 1997 and literally nothing worthwhile after that. Who cares about his comebacks.
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>>80597314
Well considering that Besson have been waiting more than 20 years to do this movie... I think he had enough time to think about every single detail going into this movie, he even did many scripts for it and chose the best one.. so I would say the odds are pretty high for being a good movie
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>>80593367
>based on the graphic novel
>original story
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>>80593367
>Why is /tv/ not excited about Valerian?
>Luc Besson

You just answered your own question.
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>>80595996
>>80595791
wtf are you doing it gets smaller everytime
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>>80595009
So he's a French Doctor Who!!!FACT!!!
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>>80597297
Same thing when Jovovich and Willis were cast for The Fifth Element.
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>>80593367

First I was excited because from what I read it was based off the best book in the series (ambassador of the shadows), however looking at the trailer I was no longer interested.

Some shit action with really poor cgi, Laureline to be played by Cara 'I look like a crackwhore tranny', and Valerian played by some guy who looks like he takes it up the ass and smiles.

Fuck it.
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>>80597695
>being THIS new
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>>80595791
>>80595996
>>80595528

Amazing, civilization is truly a mechanical milker of the muses. What a fucking shocker.

I am sure Valerian is is 100% original because its creator lived in a iron bubble his entire life and that by default makes it better!
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>>80593367

>eyebrow woman

Dropped.
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>>80597695
are you underage?
whats your problem with Luc Besson, who gave (using your redittor dictionary) kinos like Leon and 5th Element?
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>>80595996
Valerian has gone non stop with no reboots for half a century. This is Simpson's did it tier.
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>>80597824
Besson said cgi was around 80% ready in that trailer and IMO it looks pretty cool, specially if you see it on IMAX. I don't think you have to worry about the final product specially with ILM, Weta and Rodeo on board
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>>80593367
>time travel

Anything that incorporates time travel as part of its plot is instantaneously shit.
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>>80597812
WRONG!!! I'm 39 and Jovovich was hot as fuck and feminine while Willis was, at least back then, THE MAN! So don't give me that revisionist bullshit. And people forget that TFE got trashed both critically and at the box office because most people were expecting Star Wars or Star Trek and didn't understand TFE's influences.
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>>80597654
And the leading "man" looks just like that little faggot from Stranger Things. Not an ounce of masculinity in either of them!!!FACT!!!
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>>80594987
Is that a baby Trump on the left?
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>>80593367
He made Lucy.
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>>80594509
if that doesn't make you excited... sci-fi is not for you
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>>80598404
>literally quantity over quality
Fuck off.
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>>80598010
The cgi somewhat look good. Did they use any body suits? There is a scene in the trailers where the aliens basically all look the same without a few variation.
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>>80598538
It makes it adaptable for future stories. Besides, Star Wars have no explanation on their random aliens.
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>>80593367
Because it looks like shit.
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>>80597297

You talk like a fag and you've got a trip.

>Chris Pratt
>Karen Gillian

Leave, never come back.
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>>80598627
You're deflecting.
one of the big problems with the prequels was their "lol so dense!" bullshit.
No one cares about faceless cgi blobs in the background. No one cares that there's "over one gorillion fictional species!".
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>>80598945
And that why no one cares about Avatar 2-3-8-9
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>>80598738
I bet you can't wait to pay to see those two metrosexuals you fucking gender-fluid beta emo fuckstick.
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>>80599034

>And that why no one cares about Avatar 2-3-8-9

The 3d characters in Avatar are lightyears from what is shown in this trailer, here they look like some rejects from the Star Wars prequels.
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>>80599034
Except in avatar they are all the same fucking species or other creatures native to the same planet.
It is expected.
No one cares about random aliens with no backstory.
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>>80594822
>girl's suit has boob plates and looks like her neck's locked in a collar while the guy's doesn't
I fail to see the problem here
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>>80600488
>he doesn't notice how poorly photoshoped cara's head is onto her body
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>>80600614
>he loves sucking dick
to each their own I suppose
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>>80600703
No you fucking idiot, look at her fucking neck
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>>80593367
Garbage young adult flick.
It pretty much checks off all the tropes on the list.
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>>80600841
collars are my fetish tho
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I remember Valerian getting an standing ovation in Hall H at San Diego Comic Con after Besson showed 7 minutes of his movie... I don't know the source material but I have high hopes for this
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>>80593367
This movie looks like it could be shit or something of epic proportions and massive scope. With a $200M budget this is the riskiest movie of all time... I will see it just because of its potential, I don't want to miss a possible space-opera "game changer" and if it turns out to be shit then I lost 20 dllrs.. big fucking deal...
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