What was the moral of the story?
>>80573157
Around blacks _____ _____
soemthing somethin white bad somethin somethin pol somethin somethin uhhhh you didnt get it somethin soemthin raysisssm baddddd blacks are just dandy
imagine actually being a redditor, going through life that way. Getting your head caved in by a nigger you chose to turn your back to.
>>80573157
A good/right life is only relative to that person.
Their white family was still lower class in the end
>>80573157
having a nazi-tattoo is cool as hell.
>>80573177
be nice
Stop spamming this thread.
"Some people are Nazis, some aren't."
>>80573177
bring snacks
White supremacists are closeted homos.
>>80573157
it really hurts to have a dude stomp on your head while your face is on the pavement. In life you should do your best to avoid having that happen
>>80573326
Do you have a problem with film discussion, friend?
>>80573248
>Their white family was still lower class in the end
they live in a 2 story house. is this what americans really believe?
>ywn rape nazi Edward Norton's boipucci
If whites try and defend themselves it will only cause niggers to get mad and murder your family members, so you should be a submissive self-hating white instead in order to not draw their anger.
>>80573417
With out REAL white males, the family lived in a Motel 6. Did you not watch the movie?
work hard to move away from ghetto ass areas or u gotta deal with black people in droves
Niggers are chimps and the only way to stop them is to stomp them
>>80573157
>What was the moral of the story?
Neo-nazis(alt righters) are the niggers of the white race.
>>80573417
The sister even forcibly asked to drop out of college to get a Burger King job because of the skinhead in jail and the young skinnlet still fucking up in school and on the street.
>>80573177
Observe them.
niggers are bad
>>80573453
>>80573514
oh shit yeah i forgot. But even when the father was killed they were in a house. was the oldest brother the breadwinner?
>>80573177
bring KFC
>>80573157
I dunno, I didn't see it. I want to, but I haven't seen the first 9 yet.
>>80573688
No, the family lived in some shitty apt. The mother smoked herself to almost death. When the older brother got out he even said I GOT TO GET ALL OF YOU OUT OF HERE. They were living in shit. They lost everything because of the curb stomping.
How did Danny not get murder 1 for stomping the nigger? It was clear he was of sound mind, maybe not necessarily pre meditated but the brutality of the act should have been enough.
>Inb4 some retard turns this into something about niggers and crime rates
It's about this specific incident.
>Make a movie against neo nazis
>End up hating niggers more than neo nazis
The director was crap desu
>>80574023
You mean Derek right? Daniel did nothing wrong in the film other than writing an essay about Mein kampf which isn't necessarily bad per se
>>80574023
>killing someone who shoots at your house and family and steals your stuff should be murder in the 1st degree
Also that wasn't Danny, but Derek
>>80574023
His little brother said that he didn't testify in court. "He would've been in there for life" i think is the quote.
>>80573760
White people will defend wrong information. You let Trump win and let him keep spending your money. Not my money, I only deal in cash then convert it all into gold and a tiny bit into silver. Silver is the nigger of the world.
>>80574137
>>80574112
>>80574154
Yeah I meant Derek, my bad. I guess not testifying would help somewhat, but there's no way making someone bite a curb and stomp their head in could fall under self defense and Randy your ground. That's absurd.
>>80574242
>>80574023
I really meant to quote you, but it seems most people hate you. Eat shit in the new world faggot. IT seems you dont belong.
>>80574267
well considering you can shoot someone for being on your property without your permission in america i'm not surprised.
>>80574295
How dare I kill someone willing to take everything Ive worked for by force. Id kill you just for looking at me wrong. Texas is great. I will always win.
>>80574330
Im not even white. Fuck you, the rest of the world.
>>80574295
>considering you can shoot someone for being on your property without your permission in america i'm not surprised
How can ANYONE be against this?
>>80574394
>Im not even white
Why do you think you're intelligent enough to have an opinion that matters?
>>80573157
Hate is bad, no matter what side you're on.
>>80574394
>Im not even white
/tv/ is a whites only board
>>80574626
this desu senpai
id shoot the mailman every single day
the lesson is dont call the cops
>>80574689
nice reductio ad absurdum famlam
>>80574653
>>80574682
I love being underestimated. Your club house has been invaded more than you know. I never said I was a nigger. Fuck with me.
>>80574626
>>80574689
agreed
everytime i order something i just kill the delivery guy or pizza guy just get the stuff for free
based america
>>80574718
>I never said I was a nigger.
you're not white, it doesn't matter what kind of subhuman you are
>>80573413
Just contacted that guy on facebook and he said it was all a joke lol.
>>80573157
niggers gonna nig
>>80573157
REAL LIFE ISN'T BLACK AND WHITE
JUST SHADES OF GREEEEEEY
>>80575216
I just talked to him on facebook and he told me he was serious hahaha.
race politics ruin lives
>>80573544
Observed
>>80575650
niggers ruin lives*
>>80576108
this tobeyhonest
>>80575525
crackers gonna crack
It's simple no niggers=no racism
>>80576589
crack = build civilization
im ok with being a cracker desu
>>80577157
Whatever you say you degenerate filth. I'd rather stay white than be a cracker. You crackers give us whites a bad name.
>white people
ew
>>80574242
>apocalypse comes
>gold will be worth the most.
This is what retarded tinfoilers believe.
Niggers are cruel
>>80573157
Nazi > Neo-Nazi > Prison "Nazi"
Redditors will interpret the ending as him leaving behind racism, but in reality he's just leaving behind the hatred associated with it.
anti racism is a social construct
>>80578811
Modern day Nazis think Hitler would welcome them into the party with open arms, but he'd have despised them.
Himmler would have even gone further and carted them all off to the internment camps with a jolly little smile on his face.
Neo Nazis are a fucking disgrace.
>>80578942
>Fascism was a mistake
>>80574112
>writing an essay about Mein kampf which isn't necessarily bad per se
Why isn't it necessarily bad? He was extolling it
swatiskas don't actually don't "not welcome" even if you say it to a Jewish person who has come to eat dinner at your house
>>80579185
His Jewish teacher gives them an assignment on human rights, he writes about mein kampf, teacher throws a fit and tries to get him expelled. One of the reasons that the principal gave him a second chance was because he saw potential in his writing. I don't think that subject-matter should take priority over writing ability in freedomland.
>>80573177
civiland cautious
>>80573177
Never relax
>>80579856
Try writing about how neither the patriarchy or wage gap exists and see how far you get.
>>80579856
>One of the reasons that the principal gave him a second chance was because he saw potential in his writing
What? This is literally never said or even intimated; he even throws the essay in the trash. He gives Danny a second chance because he knows the only reason he's acting out is because of Derek, and also knows that Derek has changed.
>I don't think that subject-matter should take priority over writing ability in freedomland
The purpose of freedom of expression exists to facilitate the democratic process. There's no reason that forms of speech that are threatening shouldn't be restricted.
>>80574718
Yes, we're terrified of you
>>80573157
violence feeds violence
>>80573157
All these years later and I still don't understand what a curb stomp does to a head. Does it knock out the teeth? disconnect the lower jaw from the upper? why does it kill?
I'm a med student too, I should understand it but I just can't imagine what the outcome is.
>>80573157
That niggers will kill you so you had better kill them first.
>>80573157
I want a fasces on my pec, senpai
How weird will that look when I go swimming?
>>80578942
Sorry Schlomo you're still getting sent to the camp when we ride again.
>>80573157
always trust the Desert Eagle
>>80580250
Time to drop out of med school bud
>>80580139
When the Principal is talking to the teacher in his office, he makes a point that the topic of the project was open-ended. The only reason it was made an issue in the first place was because it made the Jewish teacher uncomfortable.
>>80573760
WaWait so the mom didn't have a job? I though she had at least a part time job?
>>80580552
You realize half of that isn't actually in the movie right?
>The only reason it was made an issue in the first place was because it made the Jewish teacher uncomfortable.
It's made an issue because the Jewish teacher has a history with Derek's family. He doesn't even mention his religion
>>80579185
>He was extolling it
Have you ever read the book? It is not about genocide and killing jews and gypsies.Writting an easy from an ideological book is not bad.Daniel literally did nothing wrong in all the movie
>>80580139
>The purpose of freedom of expression exists to facilitate the democratic process. There's no reason that forms of speech that are threatening shouldn't be restricted.
Holy fuck.How fucking brainwashed can someone be? The US is a republic and then a democracy.The purpose of freedom is not democracy you fucking dumbass.
>>80578942
>Modern day Nazis think Hitler would welcome them into the party with open arms, but he'd have despised them.
Why'd that be, anon?
>Himmler would have even gone further and carted them all off to the internment camps with a jolly little smile on his face.
On what grounds?
Sounds like baseless fearmongering. Makes me think why you'd make up stuff like this.
>>80580642
Jewish is an ethnicity not just a religion
>>80573157
>>80580919
Jewish ain't no ethnicity I ever heard of. They speak English in Jewish?
>>80580864
There is a clash of culture between neo-nazis and actual nazis. Degenerate art comes to mind pretty quick, but a general lack of traditional policies is the main issue.
>>80580768
>Have you ever read the book?
Have you? Disagreements aside, it's a terrible book. It's basically a collection of nonsense ramblings; Hitler was an awful writer.
>>80580840
>The US is a republic and then a democracy
How is this relevant to anything that I said? Try learning how to form a coherent sentence and read posts that you're responding to, instead of embarrassing yourself.
>>80580919
Riveting. That doesn't change the fact that Sweeny doesn't mention his religion or his ethnicity, he simply accuses him of having a history with Danny's family. It also doesn't change the fact that most of the script you linked isn't in the film.
>nigs make up 13% of the population, yet commit >50% of violent crime
>b-but if you do anything about it then you're just as bad as they are! now be a good goy and just keep your head down while this continues
Everyone's a cunt
>>80581102
>Have you? Disagreements aside, it's a terrible book. It's basically a collection of nonsense ramblings; Hitler was an awful writer.
He was but making an essay about it shouldn't be expulsion worthy
>How is this relevant to anything that I said? Try learning how to form a coherent sentence and read posts that you're responding to, instead of embarrassing yourself.
Because you were implying that constitutional rights derived from democracy and not from the constitution itself you fucking dumbass
>>80581028
>Jewish ain't no ethnicity I ever heard of. They speak English in Jewish?
There are jews that are atheist.Being jewish is a dictionary definition of ethnicity
>>80580864
>Why'd that be, anon?
Ever hear about the night of long knives?
Nazis are just the niggers of white people.
>>80581233
>He was but making an essay about it shouldn't be expulsion worthy
It wasn't, since he didn't get expelled, and no one is here arguing that it should be.
>Because you were implying that constitutional rights derived from democracy and not from the constitution itself
I never implied anything of the kind you illiterate ape. I said that the intent of freedom of expression is to enable the sovereignty of the democratic agent. Expression that is corrosive to those ideals can be justifiably restricted.
>>80581418
Not the anon you are replying to but don't you think that the government having the ability to restrict any form of speech is a little scary?
In the end he realised his father was right all along
>>80581534
I didn't say they should be able to restrict any form of speech. The foundation of democracy is egalitarianism (or at least the illusion of such). Any type of expression that promotes caste-like social stratification is a threat to a harmonious democratic society. I'm not advocating for restrictions on freedom of speech; I'm just saying that it's a tenable position. Many democratic governments do actually restrict hate speech.
>>80581715
And what defines hate speech? Isn't it just "things I don't agree with" at the end of the day?
>>80581418
>It wasn't, since he didn't get expelled
>Mein Kampf,Dan? I should expell you!
>I said that the intent of freedom of expression is to enable the sovereignty of the democratic agent
>Freedom of expression is to enable the sovereignity in a democratic agent
t.illiterate moron. Freedom of expression is a right imbecile.It has nothing to do with democracy
>Expression that is corrosive to those ideals can be justifiably restricted.
Would you justify a ban of any expression in favour of gun control? Because the right to bear arms is a constitutional right and one of the main ideals behind the foundation of the US, so people that try to destroy it shall just be silenced.
>>80581715
>The foundation of democracy is egalitarianism
No.Democracies were not always universal moron and even the members that could vote didn't have the same rights and responsabilities
>Any type of expression that promotes caste-like social stratification is a threat to a harmonious democratic society
Any type of expression that promotes to ban any hate speech is unconstitutional therefore it is a threat to the US itself
>>80581778
Someone like Charles Murray would be a good example. Most of his career has been arguing for racial, genetic differences in IQ which, regardless of whether or not he's correct, is threatening to democracy. Obviously you cannot have a functioning democracy where people are born into certain castes because of their race with no possibility (or again, illusion of possibility) of changing their circumstances. We've seen with democratization the dissolution of rigid social classes (castes in India, apartheid in South Africa, etc...), so it follows that any attempt to reinstitute such classifications are, by definition, undemocratic.
I would consider "hate speech" to be a form of expression that actively attempts to marginalize a group. Obviously it's a nebulous category which is why jurists struggle with this concept.
>>80581892
>Democracies were not always universal moron and even the members that could vote didn't have the same rights and responsabilities
Yes, the operative word here being "had". The US had classes of citizens who could not vote which were all systematically abolished.
>>80581892
>Any type of expression that promotes to ban any hate speech is unconstitutional therefore it is a threat to the US itself
We have restrictions on freedom of speech in the US already regarding obscenities, slander, libel, inciting violence etc... There's is nothing inherently unconstitutional regarding a ban on certain types of language. I'm not going to reply to you anymore because your posts are almost illegible and your arguments are consistently nonsense.
The film fucked itself over in the ending. The moral of "racism is bad" would have worked if Derek's brother didn't get killed by those nigger thugs. The moral I got is "being racism is justified but don't join a white supremacist group because they are degenerate back-stabbers"
>>80581778
Speech inciting violence for once. Depending on the country you live in it's different. The conditions in which the state can restrict free speech are usually defined in the law.
all fucking niggers must fucking hang
>>80573157
That White Supremacy should be focused on self improvement, while being wary of the sub-races.
Focusing on hatred of the sub-races is a waste of time and incites chimp outs.
>>80582196
Or just don't listen to anyone who takes Tom Metzger-tier figures seriously
>>80581804
>Would you justify a ban of any expression in favour of gun control? Because the right to bear arms is a constitutional right and one of the main ideals behind the foundation of the US, so people that try to destroy it shall just be silenced.
We already have gun control you fucking moron, and there's a chasm of difference between interpreting the constitution and sedition
>>80573157
White people can be saved (by saved the movie wants you to think that being xenophilic is morally valid), blacks will always default back to chimp culture.
>>80573511
>Neo-nazis(alt righters)
that's an insult to neo-nazis. alt-righters are nu males
>>80582126
>Yes, the operative word here being "had". The US had classes of citizens who could not vote which were all systematically abolished.
Democracy then is ot about egalitarism you retarded mongoloid
>We have restrictions on freedom of speech in the US already regarding obscenities, slander, libel, inciting violence etc... There's is nothing inherently unconstitutional regarding a ban on certain types of language. I'm not going to reply to you anymore because your posts are almost illegible and your arguments are consistently nonsense.
>
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Limiting free speech is unconstitutional.Using your argument that
>Expression that is corrosive to those ideals can be justifiably restricted.
Then limiting free speech is corrosion of American ideals.
>>80582403
>We already have gun control you fucking moron
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Applying your dumb logic that
>Expression that is corrosive to those ideals can be justifiably restricted.
Then talking about gun control could be restricted as it goes against the idea of the US in the first place
>sedition
How is writting about a book sedition?
>>80574061
This. I remember my family watched it a long time ago expecting it to be a movie that BTFO's Neo-Nazis. Unfortunately, the only one that knew how to argue was Derek, and those arguments actually ended up pretty convincing, like when he's sitting down with his family talking about criminality. I was especting some character to pop in at some point and clearly prove him wrong, but most peoples reactions were simply typical "i don't have an argument against that, but it hurts my feelings, so it's therefore wrong".
The only minority mistreatment that made me feel bad was when they stormed that mini mart and beat the crap out of everyone.
fuck niggers
>>80573261
fun fact: after Edward Norton got done filming the movie he told the makeup artist "nah its cool just leave it on"
>>80573157
dont give a shit about shitskins and live your life
>>80573157
Nazis have shit trigger discipline and use meme guns
>>80582126
people like you seriously need to be eradicated from this plane of existence
what you believe is damaging and dishonest
FUCK YOU
I learned that guns can shoot more bullets if you're racist.
>Retards thinking about this movie was about racism
If anything this movie pointed out every kind of racism is subjective and violence breeds more violence.
This movie has no anti-racism agenda AT ALL.
>>80573157
You are within your rights in America to shoot any fucker who breaks into your house but if you curbstomp them you're the one going to jail & gonna get shower raep aids
>>80582126
>We've seen with democratization the dissolution of rigid social classes (castes in India, apartheid in South Africa, etc...)
It's done wonders for South Africa.
>>80588576
>>tribal societies are just like america
kys public school
>>80580394
Trying to go 0 for 3 huh? Ok.
>>80582533
Nobody tried to "save" the black kiddo.
>>80583112
>not realizing that every single neo-nazi depicted was a pathetic loser and even Derek, while a well-read, talented speaker, was also volatile as fuck and constructed and deconstructed his ethical identity with basis on whoever around him had the most charisma
"/tv/, what are some good movies that satirize stupid people with such subtlety that the scorned ones don't even realize it and actually think that the story argues in their favor?"