What was the point of this movie? What was the message here?

not all movies have messages like some saturday afternoon special on PBS, retard

the message is more overt than 90% of films you may have autism OP

>>80557492
the point is how the economy pushes news orgs to cover bs

If you want to win the lottery, you have to make the money to buy the ticket!

Basement dwellers will never understand.

a capitalist society encourages and rewards sleazy behavior, jakey boy is capitalisms endgame

>>80557492
A hyper-competitive economy breeds & rewards sociopaths.

I didn't feel like I gleaned any sort of message from it. It just felt like a look into the life of a demented man trying to find his place in the world. Although I felt like it showed the thin lines between being an observer and an active participant in violence.

>>80557492
If you wanted to win the lottery you haved to earn the money to buy the ticket.

What diden't you understood?

>>80557884
Yes comrade. With glorious communism nobody ever does anything underhanded

>>80558065
>there are only two options, pick one even if you hate them both

Rene Russo will do some things if you put her under pressure. Important lesson.

>>80557492
The message was that Jake Gyllenhaal is a hack who plays overracted wide-eyed, smiling creep in every movie and that /tv/ has no taste.

Dont believe the (((news)))

>>80557492
It's a film about pathologically internalising normative rules which you're supposed to accept but nonetheless be ironically detached from.

In other words, the main character is a reflection of what an individual would look like if one were to truly follow and believe in the demands of society.

Jake Gyllenhaal has an ugly face which is usually overlooked because he is often in good shape for his roles. When he plays a scrawny character it becomes apparent how disgusting his mole-ridden face actually is. Potato nose, massive forehead, lips that look like a fucking armpit. An all round ugly face that inspires mistrust and suspicion. He looks like your average rapist or the coworker who never showers and is always talking about baseball. Oh and have I mentioned his moles that will inevitably become cancer one day. Jut try farting one day. Sniff your fart and picture Jake Gyllenhaal's face staring at you. Doesn't it fit the smell perfectly? He has a very Russell Brand kind of vibe going on. Utterly disgusting.


Good thing he is wealthy or he would be one miserable man and most definitely a permavirgin (and for all the wizards out there no, prostitutes don't count).

>>80557492
It's just a movie about a physcopathic streetwise LA native that stumbled into the world of freelance journalism by chance and starts doing a bunch of fucked up shit to make a few dollars.

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>>80558114
name one (1) better option

>>80557492
Businesses are naturally sociopathic. Jake is the embodiment of capitalist market actors.

>>80558476
A new idea which builds on the strengths & successes of past systems, and corrects the flaws which led to the inevitable corruption & failure of those systems. Like capitalism & communism both were, when people developed them as improvements on previous ideas which had corrupted and failed.

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>>80558675
>capitalism
>failure

>>80558476
Fascism

>>80558675
I like the implication that communism has any successful components

>>80558476
An autistocracy governed by a Circle of Elders, each specializing in one unique ability and fighting technique.

>>80558800
this tbqh. only women and homosexuals oppose fascism

>>80558712
Not him, but I would say "failings" would be more correct "failure". Capitalism as a form of social and property organization definitely has drawbacks.

>>80557492
This question is the most ridiculous thing someone that watched any movie could ask. Seriously, how can someone be so dense?

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>>80558895
Well now to be fair, cars manufactured in the Soviet Union were actually quite sturdy and reliable desu

An argument could also be made that communism is preferable to capitalism in that communism is more straightforward in its destruction of society, whereas capitalism is more insidious and destroys a society over many generations through cultural decay.

Ultimately, both ideologies are Jewish scams and funded by the same people.

>>80558210
>overracted
love this buzzword

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>>80558800
>>80558966
Kek wills fascism

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>>80559056
>both ideologies are Jewish scams and funded by the same people.

>>80557492
Daily reminder that jake literally did nothing wrong, this is what human nature is you cuck plebs

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>>80557492
What's the point of your existence, OP?

>>80558476
The fourth political theory

>>80557492
It was a character study about an impulsive socio/psychopath. Not everything has some deep message. The movie was about the characters and visuals, much like his actual rise to success, he manipulated characters and perfected his visual craft.

>>80558800
This

>>80557492
>movie was all a dream

turned it off at that point desu

>>80557492

learn to negotiate and git gud

>>80557492
Socially awkward people can excel in any profession if they put their heart, mind and soul into it and also cut the break lines of a competing news stringer as well as blackmail their boss into having sex with them as well as stage crime scenes in order to achieve a better shot and get your partner killed because he was trying to extort you for more money.

That's what it taught me

That if you're ugly women are justified in being disgusted if you ask them to sleep with you

"be savage"

>>80557492
Some people are naturally winners

The director himself considers Lou a success story. Whether or not you agree with his methods it can't be denied that he turned out a success.

>>80557492
The MSM are blood merchants.

>>80557938
Basically this.

>>80557492
>Hard work pays off

How did you miss that, OP?

>>80558561
>>80557938
These are it. Not so much that only sociopaths can thrive in these large cut throat businesses but that they create an environment perfectly suited for them and that success practically demands that you step on people. It's all fake and you end up with people like Lou in positions of power. See all his self help crap where he essentially reads on how to bend people to his will and manage (control) people.

>>80558800

This is only considered a "critique" on capitalism because it never shows the part where all the shit he did catches up with him. The way he was acting was simply unsustainable. May as well make a movie about a guy that raids the rations depot in Soviet Russia and call it a "critique" of communism (although I think in that case it actually works).

>>80558210
what about prisoners
what about zodiac
what about october sky
what prince of persia
even in donnie darko he didnt play that much of a creep
we are talking about the same actor right?

>>80558311
are you ok?

>>80557492
The message is that capitalism is what breeds psychopaths and allows them to thrive. Its a dumb message but that is the message.

>>80557626
Everything has a message because it's impossible to make something without meaning whether it's done subconsciously or not.

It showed the inherent problems with something as essential as news being treated as a commercial enterprise and the kind of people who take advantageof it.

>>80558311
What?

The important question is, did he fuck the mature woman and did he like it.

Voyeurism of the media and its moral bankruptcy

>>80557938
>sociopaths
>psychopaths
He was neither. Lou was just a normal guy doing his best to get by. I really related to his struggle.

A horror movie about what psychopaths in real life are actually like and how fucked the news has become. The fact he is so successful is more of a thematic twist of the knife than a wholly separate theme. I wondered if the blatant reinforcement of his generation (talks about how he knows all that stuff his parents told him is a lie + milf fetishism) was something as well, saying something about Gen X-ers and Millenials

>>80568137
well, d'uh, he did obviously

did you watch the movie with your ass?

>>80568619
They didn't show any sex, they only implied it. And implication is not a fact.

>>80557492
IF YOU WANNA WIN THE LOTTERY

>>80565628
>replying to contrarian redditors

sad!

>>80557492
It dealt about what you saw, the morality on media and such men as Lou, but it never fully examined it's themes, they were just there.

>>80568682
>I only understand things happened if they happen on-screen, preferably with characters or a voice explaining everything

truly a brainlet and the reason movies are going to shit more and more. kys famalam

>>80568190
He literally deceived his colleague/assistant into getting himself killed to get footage and advance his career. Is that not a huge indicator of a sociopath?

>>80557938

The fact that this thread exists for non-meme reasons despite the movie making this very clear throughout the movie and especially in the last shot makes me understand why mainstream things suck. Some people get overwhelmed by straightforward stuff.

>>80559056
>Ultimately, both ideologies are Jewish scams and funded by the same people
So Hitler was right?

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>>80557492
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>>80571077
Well he wasn't wrong