Jackie Chan is the most fun and probably the toughest, Bruce

What was he in aside from Expedables?

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>chinks

kys traitor

>>80437460
dont want no trobbu XD

Jet Li is garbage and he uses wires to pull his tiny body around in every single movie he's ever been in even in scenes where it's completely unnecessary.

Jet Li could already do amazing things on film, it's annoying that his natural talent was ruined by caricature.

Bruce Lee didn't have this problem. Jackie Chan dabbled in this madness but was a lot more circumspect. Jet Li is a standout because he just didn't care about how many wires were poured into every single film he made. Sad.

The most annoying fight scene in Fist of Legend is where Jet Li uses wires to yank his opponents back 5 meters when he devastates them with a punch to the chest. Oh wait, that's every single fight in Fist of Legend. Oh my bad, that's actually every single fight in every single HK movie Jet Li ever made.

Respectfully, fuck Jet Li.

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>>80438897
>russian puppet
>calling others "traitor"

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>>80438610
a lot of unremarkable martial arts movies. this silly thing comes to mind

kiss of the dragon and the one was kino

>>80438957
dude, its a fucking kung fu movie, they arnt really fighting you do know that dont you? real fights dont have people running up walls rolling over table tops and kicking chairs and lamps around or using an empty picture frame as a sort of shield to tangle the enemys arm in, get a grip

>>80441126
I know about the Wulin and I know way more than you, you pretentious obnoxious ignorant millenial fucking stain. Don't you dare to lecture me. It's funny that Jet Li egregiously uses wires to pull everyone he fights with around as if he's massively powerful while Jackie Chan is a lot more subtle using them and Bruce Lee didn't need them at all. But yes, yes, let's ignore facts.

>>80441207
Not that guy, but you're a massive faggot.

Yes, he has a lot of movies where he uses wire work. He also has a lot of movies where he doesn't (the good ones).

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Jackie Chan = Bruce Lee > Donnie Yen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jet "mediocre Asian action flavoring" Li

>>80441337
Jet Li uses more wires than Peter Pan. For a supposed real life martial arts expert he sure brings zero authenticity to the screen. I hope he retires soon.

Bruce Lee: invented his own martial art, became a Chinese superhero, popularised kung fu

Jackie Chan: sold by his parents to a kung fu circus. Reinvented the kung fu movie, became global megastar and household name

Jet Li: acrobat who appears in B-movies

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>>80441207
>...I know way more than you, you pretentious obnoxious ignorant...

>>80437460
>>80438610
Thai Chi Master , Fong Sai Yuk , Fist of Legend - all good shit. So what if they use wires? These are MOVIES - the style is visually appealing. Also Jet LI is a five time Wushu gold medalist

>>80438610
hero

king of chinkino

Really? He always bored me honestly, felt like he was pushed as the next Chan/Lee but I was never a big fan.
Same with Donnie Yen.

>>80437460
>Jet Li is the all-around best, no contest
Best at what exactly? Because Jet Li has admitted himself he would get his ass whooped by real fighters. Jet Li only does wushu. IF you don't know what Wushu really is it's kinda like Luchador wrestling, as in it's kinda real but it's mostly fake

>>80437460
jet li has literally no charisma and can't act for shit
the once upon a time in china series was good though

He has nowhere near as much charisma as the other two no matter how hard they try to push him

Jackie Chan is a great actor, stunt man, and fighter.

Bruce Lee is literally the greatest of all time. He is the peak of skill, power, and physique for the human race.

Jet Li is nothing compared to the two.

>>80443712
>Bruce Lee is literally the greatest of all time. He is the peak of skill, power, and physique for the human race.

Lmao. Bruce Lee was an actor just like the other 2, slightly less athletic than Chan.

Jackie is GOAT, it's not even close. He has half a dozen kinos that are legit. His stunt-fu was literally next level action cinema.

>>80438610
Lethal Weapon 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBxAlT4S0CU

Jet Li was definitely in some of the best ones
>Hero
>The One
>Kiss of the Dragon
>Unleashed
>Romeo Must Die
>Black Mask
>Once Upon a Time in China
Even Cradle 2 The Grave

For my time at least, Jet Li is actually underrated imo

>>80443788
You really count discount Jackie
I'd watch plenty of his movies in the 90's when I was <10 but thinking about it, I couldn't come up with any
This is what I came up with for Jet:
>>80443874
The diversity of all of these movies alone says a lot of about his work

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>>80443777
>slightly less athletic than Chan

How does it feel to be so fucking wrong?

>>80443712
Arguably the best looking and came in at maybe the best time (as in a lot of his moives were American, with an American budget) = he got to be in the best movies

>>80438610
See
>>80443874
All of the green text are still enjoyable

>>80443918
>Being a skinny skeleton with some muscle tone = physical peak of the human race.

kek. Bruce Lee was a hobbyist martial artist, Jackie Chan was a trained acrobat at the peking opera and legitimately one of the best stuntment ever. Could Bruce Lee beat Jackie Chan in a fistfight? Maybe, who knows, they were both untrained amateurs as far as fighting goes, but purely from an athletic skill standpoint, there is no question Chan is far superior. It's like saying an olympic gymnast is less athletic than Bruce Lee.

>>80443910
Not him, but you speak like your opinion matters when you're really just a dumb cunt. Get the fuck out of this thread.

>>80444027
holy shit there's so much wrong here it hurts. how does it feel to be that stupid?

>>80444027
>muscles = strength

Nigger have you even seen the interviews with Jackie of him recalling how Bruce Lee accidentally hit him too hard?

Even Jackie Chan acknowledges the fact that Bruce is superior.

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>>80443712
Agree with this. Actually recently read pic related. Lee wasn't born a naturally big guy, but what he did have, he did more with it than anyone in recorded history.

As for Chan, I've been told he has hands down the best team of stunt men in the world, who have been working with him since the beginning. And unless the main actor doesn't have a martial arts background (like Keanu Reeves during The Matrix), they always choreograph the fight scenes. So it's probably safe to say Chan was the best fight choreographer out of all of them, or at least knew how to make the most entertaining fights.

If Bruce Lee is so great then why is he dead

>>80444072
I'd be interested in that

>>80444168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8CtOqJy6xM

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>>80444162
Brain muscle became too big.

>>80437460
The problem with asians is they're so small. Steven seagull in his prime probably could have beaten any of them.

bruce lee - pinnacle of speed, control and power. even when he's being friendly he's intimidating as fuck. makes me wonder just how badly he destroyed his wife's punani.

jackie chan - absolute fucking bro, and absolutely fucking fearless. probably the most impressive physique of all, functional and aesthetic.

jet li - more or less hong kong style martial arts incarnate. definitely quick and acrobatic.

>>80444209
Cheers

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>>80437460
>the toughest
None of them were actually tough you retard

MMA as a sport has completely shut down asian media voodoo bullshit, only don wilson had the balls to try compete/commentate and praise mma.

The West won. Cry for days.

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BIF IS NOT A PUSSY!

>>80444264
But bruce lees style basically IS mma. Use whatever works best.

>>80444264
>as a sport

>>80444264
>jeet kune do
>non-telegraphing strikes
>multiple chain strikes to bewilder opponent
>feints
>doing whatever it takes to win

he downplayed MMA for a reason, and basically any other sports fighting. rules do not exist in real fights.

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>>80444300
Explain why mma has no jute keen do practitioners then

>praising actors when an entire sport exists that found the best styles and mixed them already

>>80437460
Jackie Chan is the world's greatest stunt man and has made many many more movies than Bruce Lee got to. While Lee paved the way, Chan is the one to take martial arts in cinema to its height

>>80444346
Then he'd get taken down by a stronger grappler and they could do what they want with his 5kg ass on the ground

>>80444072
Have you ever heard Bruce Lee talk about Gene LeBell, an actual martial artist and how he completely destroyed Bruce Lee's world view on fighting in 1 grappling session? Bruce Lee was not a fighter, deal with it. And of course Jackie would tell phantastic, exaggerated stories about Bruce Lee, it's an honor for him that he was starring besides such a huge icon and it's only in his best interest to keep up the mystique around that person.

>>80444348
It's not a single set or rigid style. It's very flexible and adapts. Had bruce lee lived, modern jeet kune do would probably resemble MMA if it could be proven to beat a jeet kune do master.

>>80444300
He might have had the right philosophy, but he sure as hell did not have the right training.

>>80444372
grappling isn't a lethal method, if you go to grapple a kung fu master or even karate black belt they could just pull your eyes out your socket, hammer your temples and crush your windpipe.

>>80444372
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Z-tTzYTG0

size is irrelevant in a fight you fucking tremendous dipshit.

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>>80437460
that film was comfykino

>>80444436
>grappling isn't a lethal method

Excuse me?

>>80444436
>grappling isn't a lethal method,

Yeah, if the grappler decides to stick to arbitrary rules and you better pray he does. Here, let Bas Rutten explain it to you in a very easy to understand way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKVErVDA0JA

>>80444436
Give an example of this being possible, there's a reason asians with their 'kung fu' are bottom of the barrel trash fighers in mma and boxing. grappling doesnt just mean taking someone down, it also means controlling their arms while you deliver hard blows.

>>80444438
>weightclasses exist for no reason

top kek, im done. Fucking movie watching idiots arguing against sports and reality.

>>80444436
are you sure you're old enough to post here?

>>80444438
no it isn't, it affects your reach and weight is really important. A bantomweight boxer could probably never floor a heavyweight. It's not relevant in terms of skill, and often the shorter fighter has some advantages also like lower centre of gravity, faster movement and good agility.

>>80437460
Average height of all 3 = 4'9"

Reminder Jackie Chan is literally insane and no action star will ever top his stunts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te8rNaLAz4o

i think we can all agree that bruce lee was fast and strong and that greco-roman wrestling is the only good sport where you fight

>>80444538
you do realize bruce lee trained with a 300 pound punching bag? you're severely underestimating his ability to use his entire body's strength behind all his strikes.

>>80444560
speed accounts for much more force than weight does. Kinetic Energy = 1/2 mass x (velocity)^2. bruce lee understood this and took to levels people didn't even know existed. he was a master at creating power despite having a small frame.

>>80444538
>>80444498
well there's not many lethal fights in MMA since it's a ring sport so obviously there's no example, but if you try and control someones arms that means you aren't protecting your face and eyes.

>>80444544
Most security firms will sign you up in a snap if you have any qualification in wushu because they know you'll have a flexible number of techniques under your belt many of which incapacitate and don't count as gbh like a solar plexus jab or shocking the windpipe.

>>80444623
With two equally skilled fighters the bigger one has a clear advantage.

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>>80444538
Not the previous poster, but there is something to be said for the difference between serious CQC and sports fighting. Many styles of martial arts are designed for quick, efficient lethality rather than pure takedowns. Modern sports MMA is designed to avoid serious injury or death for the participants, because no one would do it otherwise. And they would also not have any long-time athletes. Saying "X could completely destroy Y" is kinda pulling from two different classes of fight. There are a lot of rules in MMA, implicit and explicit, that prevent the two fighters from really harming each other on a regular basis.
Meanwhile, Krav Maga tells you to knife-hand someone's trachea, or LINE just straight up had the military training to kill people in the dark.

>>80444641
Look up khabib nurmagedov

>>80444641
Not them but controls can easily lead to containments and breaks. Problem with grappling is fights in real life almost always end in a couple of seconds and never get to the ground. It's fun to learn for sport, though. Hand controls can always come in handy if you're a bouncer who doesn't necessarily want to break a drunk's arm or take them to the ground, but "help" them out the door as quickly as possible.

>>80444675
size tells you nothing about the person's ability to close the gap.

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>>80444623
Only because tapouts and TKO exists idiot. When there's no ref to step in, what do you think will happen

insufferable non fighting fa/tv/irgins

>>80444641
do you have any sources to back up all the bullshit you're pulling out of your arse?

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>>80444798
was meant for >>80444689

Bruce Lee = Sega Saturn
Jackie Chan = Playstation
Jet Li = Xbox

>>80444689
Most life or death struggles end up on the ground. You're not knife handing anything down there.

>>80444778
Are you just a bit dumb or something? The point is size does matter, it matters a lot.

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>thread about chinese martial artists
>lanklets have to stink up the joint compensating

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You'd have to be a fucking mongoloid to put any of them over Jackie Chan, yes even Bruce Lee. I wish he would star in more shit American movies because that nigga deserves all the fat paychecks he can get.


A whole career filled with kinos

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i thought this asian mystic shit was dead

>>80444911
no one mentioned height other than size being a good factor in a fight, insecure manlet

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>>80444862
What is Seagal?

>>80444936
As far as their movies go, Jackie is way above Lee and Li combined but Lee could probably beat jackie still

>MMA webms

Always that one autist. Always.

I think we're forgetting that Jackie Chan actually directed most of his movies in addition to acting, stunt co-ordinating, and occasionally performing the theme song. Though perhaps Bruce would have directed more, had he not died so soon.

Which one doesn't shill for the Chinese government?

>>80437460
>but Jet Li is the all-around best, no contest
Nah son, Tony Jaa is it. He has none of that chinks-flying-with-wires-shit.

>>80444957
Sega Dreamcast the worst fucking system ever created

>>80444947
youre clearly the insecure one spouting "muh size". only other lanklets are going to agree with you moron. you probably think you could beat bruce lee or mike tyson in a fight because youre such a beast

>>80445010
>Nah son
shut the fuck up nigger

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>>80444855
>>80444885
I'm not certain what point you are trying to get across here. I never said MMA fighters weren't dangerous, or couldn't kill someone. I'm saying their styles of fighting weren't designed around it. They were designed around the particular ruleset and environment of UFC and MMA. One of the reasons BJJ is so popular is because of the prevalence of groundfighting in Modern MMA. Most "life or death struggles" do not end up on the ground, not when one or both individuals are well trained martial artists.
Theres a reason Military staff and PMC's are trained in purely lethal martial arts: because they need to kill people as fast as possible. MMA fighters are taught MMA because they need to knock other MMA fighters out without killing them and without performing illegal moves. It's two different systems, how hard is that to understand? Could an MMA fighter beat someone to death? Absolutely, Boxing and Muay Thai are extremely effective martial arts. Would I pit them up against someone who practices actual Muay Thai? No.

>>80445010
Why doesn't Jaa do more shit?

>>80445007
>western celebs don't shill for our governments
If you want to be successful, yoi have to suck everyone's dick. Being this retarded is why the white race is dying. B4 saying you aren't white. Everyone is white on 4chan.

Too bad MMA movies are all garbage.

>>80445049
wew lad
This is the kind of guy who argues that "kung fu really works guys, my sensei says so"

>>80445011
>Boxing and Muay Thai are extremely effective martial arts.

They're both worthless in a serious fight if you can't grapple.

>>80445064
poor english

>>80445111
>going to the ground in a real fight
Enjoy getting blindsided by his buddy.

>>80445111
>serious fight
>grapple
search online for street fights and see how many of them involve grappling

>>80445049
Kek you've never been in a fight in your life stop talking

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>>80445213

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>>80445103
I'm not even arguing Kung Fu at this point. I'm arguing simple logistics, which you faggots seem unable to grasp. You want to pit propped-up celebrity "fighters" against a KGB agent using Systema? Go ahead. How about a Ranger using LINE? You know, the CQC that was TOO LETHAL for the damn military. I'm glad your /fit/ gymrat hugbox tells you your wierd MMA obsession and totally normal homosexual dreams about GSP mean that UFC is the greatest form of human combat, but don't expect that shit to show up in the real world.
>>80445111
I'm trying to throw you a bone here, you ignorant nigger-kin. Boxing and Muay Thai were used for generations in life-or-death fights by their respective countries, and were very good at what they were for. Grappling has its place, but its not "the end of every fight".

>>80444623
>Kinetic Energy = 1/2 mass x (velocity)^2

Yes and half of that fucking equation is mass you colossal dipshit.

>>80445252
I didn't see a fight or a grapple. I saw a sucker-punch and a tackle. In a high school. Between two tweens.

>>80445261
He meant mass is less important. Not sure if you're pretending to be retarded.

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>>80445213
Error: You must wait 3 minutes 27 seconds before posting a duplicate reply.

>>80445253
Bro stop getting b8'd by this /heem/ samefag

>>80445261
>half
>velocity to the power of two
how do maths work

>>80445188
>>80445213
>discussing lethal fighting
>street fights
>bar fights

When you need to fight with lethal force it's probably not going to be at a time of your choosing, You could be sitting down on your couch, you could be in your car, there's going to be furniture and obstacles. A completely unpredictable environment.

You might not be standing when you realize it's time to get lethal

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>>80445213
I can do this all day

>>80445300
>>80445252
these are your examples? kek neither involved grappling

>>80445261
KE = 1/2(2) x 4^2 = 16
KE = 1/2(4) x 2^2 = 8

Twice as fast is better then twice as heavy, dipshit.

>>80445278
Grappling is the best fightjng style to get your face stomped in by your opponents' friends in a street fight.

>>80445300
That was a hip-throw, which is a judo move. By an untrained teenager. Which side are you on again?

>>80445324
>>80445300
>l-look at these cherries!

>>80445324
kek dumb nog knocked himself out

>>80445344
>>80445324
>>80445300
these guys clearly trained in grappling. point proven anon *tips*

>>80445261
>half of that fucking equation is mass
did you even go to school?

>>80445324
And this nigger knocked himself out during his own throw. What exactly is your point, you still haven't shown a simple grapple.

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>>80445213

>>80445371
you vs a bullet fired out of a rifle

you out-mass the bullet at least 100x so it shouldnt be a problem for you

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>>80445213
As we all know by now, there is no grappling in street fights.

>>80445380
you can stop now. you havent shown one example of grappling technique in a fight.

>>80445402
what an idiot

>>80445380
Kek, this one was actually good, if only cause the prissy slapfighting pussboi got his face destroyed by some old dude.
>>80445402
This video shows exactly why you don't grapple. As soon as the nog goes down, his pack descend upon the hapless would-be slaver.

>>80445402
Jesus I hate black people.

>>80445332
Your definition of grappling is too narrow and you've moved the goalposts from a 1 on 1 life or death situation to a casual street fight

Trump thread is the most fun and probably the toughest
Emma thread was the most important
But this thread is the all-around best, no contest

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In conclusion, people grapple in street fights all the time.
Anybody got the webm of the cocky nignog that started a fight with a hillbilly and ended up back mounted eating hooks for like forty seconds?

>>80445387
what are you even trying to say?

>>80443239
I wish Donnie Yen did a little more comedic stuff. He's always very serious when he's the lead.

I'd like him to actually do a Jackie Chan type movie once.

>>80445213
>thinks he knows anything about fighting
>"go search videos online bro"

ok buddy

>>80445433
Also grappling is a very bad idea if knives are involved, never mind firearms.

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>Movie star discussion devolves to self defence against shitskins.

>>80445253
>literally believing in secret deadly techniques only known to certain martial arts schools
Please stop watching anime, it is rotting your brain.

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>>80445463
To be fair, the goalposts were moved by someone else from 1-1 deathmatch to street fight. As for my definition of grapple, I'll give you the tackle, but throws are usually covered in other forms of martial arts, mainly Judo. However, you moved the goalposts yourself from "two highly trained athletes/soldiers" to "two gorillas having a mating feud". My argument was never that grappling is useless, its absolutely necessary to have a solid base of it. But if you focus on grappling, you're gonna die, likely before you ever get a hand on someone. My argument was that professional, currently implemented self-defense and hand-to-hand combat techniques are going to be inherently more deadly then show athletics.

>>80445509
It's more serious since martial artists in China are keen to push it as part of the national agenda and so a lot of the movies are based around patriotism like Ip Man and so on, which is funny since Ip Man moved to Hong Kong which was much more affluent and safe thanks to Brit rule than commie China.

Donnie is also very interested in the portrayal of styles since the progression of martial arts interests him. But that is fairly dull for most people.

>>80445575
Any sorta discussion about martial arts always brings the MMA autists from the woodworks

>>80445609
>literally believing your favorite television star is actually a trained killer.
Please stop watching crossfit, it is rotting your brain.

>>80445402
how WEAK do you have to be to need your freinds to help you out in a fight 1v1. fucking pussy niggers. so glad all they do is go arround killing each other

>>80445463
Are you legit retarded or so you think anons are one person?
Grappling is nice to know but it's not something you'd want to use in a non-sport environment by choice in 1vX.
>goes for takedown, smacks head onto concrete
>go for armbar, gets stabbed
You watch too much UFC.

>>80443447

Wushu is literally just martial arts. I think you mean competition or sport wushu, which puts more emphasis on style and form than application.

>>80445064
He was a monk for a couple of years. Also his stunts and fights are above all, his acting and english are really fucking bad.

>>80445048
Im from northern europe, not sweden, you fucking double nigger.

>>80445612
>>80445659
As far as deadliness/self is concerned 1vs1, grappling wins hands down IMO. The life or death struggle doesn't begin when you're facing off against each other, if the face-off ever even occurs. chances are when someone means to kill you you're going to be taken by surprise and you're already going to be on the ground.

>>80445715
self defense*

>>80445715
Good thing no one gives a shit about your opinion. Also, gimme those goalposts back, we still aren't talking about street niggerfights.

>>80445111
Boxing and Muay Thai are extremely effective martial arts.
They're both worthless in a serious fight if you can't grapple
>Muay Thai
>no grappling
Are you really that retarded? Most of mma*s stand up grappling is based in Muay Thai you mong.

>>80445744
No we're talking about home invasions and the like. Not street fights.

Where the fuck else are you going to try to kill someone?

>>80445253
Just to humour you, what does LINE or Systema teach that that gives them a deadly advantage over someone with generalised MMA training?

Let me make this very simple.
1. Depending on where you live will effect how you defend yourself and what is the best strategy; If you live in a shithole like America, best bet is CC firearm or a expandable baton or knife.
2.If you live in a safer country where those things are prohibited or not needed. DO BOTH. Learn some striking and Judo (not many people even know that judo has great ground techniques as well). The goal and mindset for both is to avoid as much damage as possible, stay on your feet and incapacitate the threat.
3. The point is that in a "street fight" you never know what your getting into and how it will turn out, so having a good overall "BASE SKILLSET" will generally give you the win and you wont get killed by some nig nog and his freinds

>>80445715
Lmao. Are you sure you're not confusing your homoerotic fantasies with your self-defense ones?

I AM YU LAW
I'M NOBODY'S BITCH

>>80445917
Stop projecting anon. Fights start suddenly and without warning, you might have already been tackled or punched in the back of the head before you even know what's going on. When that happens you're going to want to know how to high from the ground, not how to box.

It's not like mortal kombat where you face off and exchange punches

But I do agree with >>80445905

>>80445808
Well, seeing as how the argument started when someone wanted to pit Modern MMA fighters up against traditional martial arts practitioners in a fight to the death, I would guess that's about where we're at. No one brought up home invasions til you did, because previously the argument was always about two trained albeit different professionals.
In your extremely niche home invasion example, Martial Arts in general are unlikely to come up. Most people have some form of weapon, or at worst can grab kitchen knives. Most robbers will usually bring SOMETHING, especially if they're bold enough to barge in while you're home.
>>80445827
If I knew that, I would know LINE or Systema. I'm going off of what professionals and people WHO KILL PEOPLE FOR A LIVING consider the more dangerous.

>>80446024
Wait so you don't know? The fuck are you even talking for?

>>80446051
>You don't know theoretical astrophysics? Then why would you say Stephen Hawking knows more about it then Bill Nye the Science Guy?

>>80446051
kek

>>80445921
I WILL BE THE ONE

>>80446102
You don't have an answer.

>>80444610
I'm not impressed. Jackie have wolverine's healing factor.

>>80446251
It was a rhetorical answer to a question not worth actual thought.

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gook life

>>80446497
Right now, in this very thread, someone thinks Systema and Krav Maga will save them from this.

Dunno what I expected from this thread other than bashing asians but ok

>>80446533
you just dont understand combat.
Anybody can loose at any stage

>>80446533
I think you dont understand the point of Krav Maga then,not everyone is Wanderlei Silva and not every location is a fucking ring in PRIDE

>>80446603
Yeah because knocking somebody down and stomping their head in isn't universal or anything lol

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anyone got a link to that video where a bunch of fatties are throwing elbows trying to be deadly

>>80446652
And you think a leglock from BJJ or pulling guard from street can save you from getting stomped? Dont be an autist

>>80445675
well wushu has three elements, qigong which is about fitness, endurance and building the body up, forms which are learnt movements where you learn to imagine fighting opponents and eventually develop an instinctual understanding of where a fight will go and how to act appropriately and finally the stances and strikes.

All of them borrow from one another, forms are just stances and strikes in patterns and qigong uses a lot of stances and strikes. It is all practical, taiqi is effective and it's basically just isolated qigong, Ba gua is very form heavy and Wing Chun is very strike heavy.

>>80446725
>pulling guard
knowing how to get somebody off from full mount and minimising the damage can in NO WAY POSSIBLE be bad to know. the goal is to minimise the damage to yourself. not to break their neck and fuck their wife

>>80446725
he did have a brief opportunity to get out of being stomped, yes, but he flails with his hands instead of using his legs.

>>80446725
not who you're replying to, but if you somehow manage to successfully leglock someone all the way you damage the leg enough for him to not be able to stand up and try to stomp on you

>>80446725
just stop

>>80446670
this classic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOcl7JVJsh0

scary turbo alpha ruskies

>>80446805
>>80446806
>>80446812

I'll retract my statement,you all are correct, but the point I was originally going to make is
>Not everyone is Wanderlei Silva
>There not everyone is as lethal as him
>If you're a practitioner of MMA then yes,you can defend yourself in a one on one street fight no problem
>However Krav Maga exists for a reason it is applicable,if you're NOT a Martial Arts practitioner then the only Krav Maga you should be doing is running but you can still learn some methods of avoiding a fight and IF you cant escape confrontation,learn ways to get out of it fast through certain techniques

I am NOT arguing Krav Maga is better than MMA but I will argue that its applicable for everyone,

>>80446919
shit man. even the difference between somebody who does train and who doesn't makes the difference. the ability to maintain muscular stamina is a big deal when you have been fighting for less then 90 seconds and you can hardly pick your arms up

>>80446848
fucking hell I never knew russians had developed such sophisticated martial arts like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfNeJ2SixgQ

>>80445921
>>80446210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm7vnOC4hoY

>>80446992
I understand that,how does the practitioner's health affect how effective Krav Maga is? Thats on him/her

>>80446014
Pls kys. I don't know where you live, but people don't randomly start fights. If you get jumped, you're fucked either way. Knowing how to grapple isn't going to help you. You're a retard.

>>80447044
im not talking health. im talking about muscular stamina. if you had ever trained you'd know what im talking about. and dont confuse it with 'running fitness'
you could put Usain Bolt on the mat and roll around or even stand and spar and they'd be on their knees throwing up in 5 mins from exhaustion

>>80447113
My point still stands,how does that affect how effective Krav Maga is?

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>>80447027
fuck you idiot

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKdRd1UdMI

>>80447148
Are you asking me how being conditioned makes you more effective at using the techniques in Krav Maga?

>>80447101
>but people don't randomly start fights

Someone has led a sheltered life.

>>80447171
I dont get your point,are you saying Krav Maga is a shit system for not encouraging the practitioners to build up fighting stamina?

>>80447160
cyka blyat

>>80447172
or he lives in a semi-decent country of civilized human beings where law and order prevails.

>>80447172
Civilized life.
Where do you live? If you life in Africa, then by all means practice your dumb ass grappling instead of arguing about it on the internet. BJJ people are worst than crossfit and vegans. No one gives a shit.

>>80447172
Not guy you're replying to but if someone is about to start a fight with you its usually pretty easy to tell, you'll see them change stance getting ready to throw a punch plus they'll probably be screaming in your face about something. Where do you live where people are hiding waiting for you to walk past so they can silently punch you in the back of the head?

>>80447239
Krav Maga was litterly designed for counter terrorism in CQC for the Israeli def force.

Any and all military based combat systems revolve around fast execution and elimination of threat to minimise damage to yourself and move onto the next threat.
Its designed around maintaining stamina as Fighting is and exhausting exercise.

>>80447264
i'm australian born with a russo mum and hungarian dad though

>>80447302
He's a proponent of BJJ so I'm guessing Brazil. It makes sense monkeys would try to jump you.

>>80447332
SOOKAH

BLYYYAAAADDDD

>>80447327
Okay I understand,so you're saying if a CIVILIAN practioner would only be able to use Krav Maga as much as they could last fighting? If so,I agree with you

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>>80447357
smd

>>80447386
thats like saying someone who has drunk a bottle of wine is going to have shit reactions. by that stage Eddie had already gotten punchy and had no idea what he was doing standing up

>>80447327
I expect the Israeli defence force frequently comes under close combat assault right? One of the most highly equipped military forces in the world is sure to know all about close combat fighting against some of the worst equipped. Muslims probably think it's a blessing, when they run into an israeli camp they get tackled to the ground by half the garrison and can blow up with maximum effect.

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>>80447415
>thats like saying
I said nothing besides suck my dick. lmao

>>80447430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPiA27uC8A
Watch this little mini series. its a good watch

>>80447458
>I said nothing besides suck my dick. lmao
Webm. title. Faggot.

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>>80447101
>but people don't randomly start fights.

>>80447533
reaction time

>>80437460

and Iko Uwais shits on all of them

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underrated

>>80449003
Good taste

>>80447695
Arguing with your boyfriend is not fighting faggot. When was the last time someone ambushed you in a fist fight?

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>>80445550
The kid at the end. Somebody call the amberlamps.

>>80446848

Is that Steven Seagal style?