Why is this guy loved by conservatives and loathed by liberals?

What's the difference between John Wayne, and Jack Daniels?

John Wayne eventually stopped killing indians.

>>80347744
Because he called hollywood communists out for being communist.

Hollywood's response was not giving him oscar for Red River(which was pretty much the best movie he played in).

Because he's a man and liberals are intimidated by him.

>>80347744

His flicks were simplistic, easy to digest stories of good guys (wearing white, to make it easier to tell who's who) killing bad guys that didn't challenge their audience in any capacity and required little more than a middle school education to appreciate.

>>80347885
Sounds like capeshit.

>>80347885
>being this mad

>>80347885
>movies can't be about good vs evil because real life isn't that way!!!1!
Kill you are self

>>80347885
t.jew

>>80347846
true grit, the searchers, and rio bravo are better. red river is great though

>>80347885
Basically this. He was also outwardly racist so not many people wanted to associate with him. He also thought Hollywood was a communist or some wacky shit like that

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>>80347874
>Because he's a man and liberals are intimidated by him.

>Strode recounted that Ford "kept needling Duke about his failure to make it as a football player", comparing him to Strode (a former NFL running back), whom he pronounced "a real football player". (Wayne's football career at USC had been curtailed by injuries.) He also ridiculed Wayne for failing to enlist during World War II, during which Ford filmed a series of widely praised combat documentaries for the Office of Strategic Services, and was wounded at the Battle of Midway,[8] and Stewart served with distinction as a bomber pilot. "How rich did you get while Jimmy was risking his life?" he demanded.

>>80347885
The entire Western genre of motion picture demonizes Native Americans and paints their genociders as good guys.

Can you imagine being a Native American and having hundreds of films dedicated to portraying your people as simple, savage animals and justifiable targets of slaughter?

>>80347957
I watched The Searchers last week and was utterly fucking disgusted. I'm glad Westerns are dead.

>>80347966
*communist conspiracy

Is The Searchers really as good as everyone says?

>>80347966
>He was also outwardly racist so not many people wanted to associate with him.
you got it the wrong way around, Wayne was the most bankable actor in Hollywood and every little kike wanted to work with him.

Wayne turned down a lot of films because he felt they were communist or unamerican.

>>80347874
he was just an actor anon

>>80347885
What is The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance!?

>>80347957
Both true grits were shit

>>80347966
He was married to three spic women and Holywood was and is a commie sindicate

>>80347966
How was he racist?

>>80348015
natives are savages though

>>80348090
he was a bad goy

>>80348015
But they *were* savages.

>>80348073
Playing pretend is all it takes to intimidate a liberal.

>>80348039
B a s e d

>>80348015
There are three portrays of Indians in movies: uncivilized savage, noble barbarian and Casino owner

All of them are stupid as fuck

>>80347744
John Wayne was a fag. I came to his house to do some work, and he answered the door in a dress.

>>80347885
>>80347966
>>80348015
>being this mad over old cowboy movies

>>80348191
All of them are accurate.

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>>80347744
besides being a very mediocre actor

>On the 1970 Best Picture Winner, Midnight Cowboy (responding to the question of what types of films he considered “perverted”):

"Wouldn’t you say that the wonderful love of those two men in Midnight Cowboy, a story about two fags, qualifies?"

On African-Americans:

"We can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks."

"I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility."

>>80348206
That doesn't make him a fag. A lot of guys like to watch their buddies fuck.

>>80347744
He was a draft dodging faggot. Fuck him.

>>80347744
He mined a lot of salt with this comment to Playboy magazine in the '70s:

>I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people ... I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from [the Native Americans] ... Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves.

>>80348237
these quotes only serve to make us like him more

>>80347957
The Searchers I haven't watched, Rio Bravo is imo. the definitive John Wayne western, but also it's movie that was beaten to death in all 999999 other westerns of his outside of few outliers.

True Grit is strong contender but I like Red River more.
>>80348015
shit bait

>>80348003
BTFO

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He "was a fag"

>>80348285
why did you retweet that?

>>80347949

>Movies shouldn't make me think! If I wanted to use my brain I would've stayed in school!

Go get your GED

>>80348259
Big talk from a neckbeard on an Indonesian speaker cabinet forum.

You have ten seconds to convince me what's wrong with being liberal.

A draft-dodging zionist who said things about the indians and the commies and had to settle with mexican women

A true american hero

>>80348037
No

It's just another oat opera with a big budget and some nice scenery

>>80347744

>epitome of American manliness is some cushy actors pretending to be rugged individualists

lol Hollywood sure did bamboozle a lot of people.

>>80348368

It hurts my feelings knowing that people disagree with me.

imagine thinking John Wayne westerns are good aka never watching a Robert Altman film

SADDLE MY HORSE

He was right about the commies tho

He shouldn't have dodged the draft though, they would of kept him from the front lines anyway.

>>80347744
He is the quintessential conservative. Racist, pro-war, scared of commies, and made money on being a "true patriot" while dodging the draft.

Meanwhile, pathetic liberals and commies like Jimmy Stewart actually fought for their country in World War II.

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>ITT

>>80348368
Only 10 seconds to name everything wrong with being a liberal? Impossible.

>>80347744
He was a fat, bloated alcoholic blowhard whose real name was MARION and used his bluster to cover for his immense insecurities i.e. basically every right winger. There's your fucking answer.

>>80348443
Imagine watching and appreciating both. Crazy, huh?

>>80348411
John Wayne westerns are trash.

Hes basically the first american actor who turned movies into "shit where I can watch some pretty face do stuff"

>>80348368
Egalitarianism and equality is unrealistic, idealistic nonsense. Hierarchies exist for a reason.

>>80348511
Movies were that from the very beginning, you dolt.

>>80348491

>i jerk it to some old fart who played a cowboy in some movie because movies are real life

i bet you shave with a straight razor and choke down little sips of scotch because you think it's manly DAE BACON AMIRITE?

>>80348500
hahaha, marion

>>80347833
Nice one, can I steal that?

he's been dead nearly 40 years and he still triggers the fuck out of libs. amazing.

>>80347885
t. hasn't seen a single John Wayne film

>>80348237

Sounds reasonable to me.

>>80348483
James Stewart was lifelong republican. Also kind of a hypocrite in a way. He hanged around with Henry Fonda, fucking girls left and right and then settled down with one, pretending that he's saint now. When compared to Fonda he said - but hey, hey, hey, I wasn't marrying girls I've pumped and dumped like Henry did, so I didn't have any divorces, I am clear!

Still cool actor.

>>80347744
He is a real man. Leftist are essentially a batch of betacucks. Why do you think a skank like Madonna is one??

>loathed by liberals
not really you just live in a make believe world kiddo

>>80347744
His films captured the conservative mindset.

Simple, straight forward, black and white. In the end good wins and the bad guy gets shot.

True Grit and The Shootist were Kino.

Guy was a gigantic asshole though.

Wonder what he would think of /tv/?

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>>80348500
As opposed to liberals worshipping uppity blacks who sing like prostitues. Or liberals who are more scared of sex than Puritans, because they need to hide their inferiority complex.

John Wayne is hated by liberals today, because hes antithesis of everything they stand for: he openly displays virtuous qualities in an unironic manner

>>80347744
He's the classiest man in the world.

>>80348637
I don't see the problem, guy was a famous actor and slept with many women before settling down.

>>80348506
one shits on the other

if you had a defined taste (good or bad or whatever) you wouldn't like both

>>80348659
Things are very black and white in the liberal mindest, quite literally, only black is now good and white is now evil, once again I mean in the literal sense but also in the way that their morals are beyond cut and dry and they devour their own at any and every perceived infringement.

>>80348637
Henry Fonda was apparently a cold and scary guy irl

>>80348666
You're talking about 2 different time periods Satan.

When John Wayne was alive liberals were out at orgies spreading AIDS like butter on Texas toast.

>>80348721
The point is that he pretended to be better man than Fonda, who did the same but was stupid enough to marry with some of those girls way before wanting to settle down.

>>80348003
that's how Ford treated men

he wouldn't let faggots on his set

>>80348666
>liberals who are more scared of sex than Puritans
wait I thought liberals promoted casual sex and were against the nuclear family? did the narrative change this week?

>>80348725
That's ridiculous.

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>Why is this guy loved by conservatives and loathed by liberals?

Because he was a simple man who saw the world in black and white...and had the IQ of a turnip.

>>80348802
and now they try to normalize trannies and sluts which is even more detrimental to the fabric of society

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>people still think John Wayne dodged the draft and that soldiers hated him

Wew lad, and here I thought America is waking up from commie brainwashing now Trump is the POTUS.

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>>80348839


Today's liberals are disgusted by Wayne's machismo, hormones, and sex drive.

Liberals hate public displays of affection, unless it's by two gays or lesbians.

Hell, some of them even think LOOKING at a woman is considered assault.

Liberals are more prude than Puritans

>>80348839
They hate nuclear families, because they hate the concept of male and females being in love and having sex

Remind me again, what exactly did John say about blacks, commies and indians that is wrong?

>>80349015
What he said wasn't wrong.

But he broke the illusion, so that makes him a bad guy

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>>80348983
>muh libruls
>muh manliness

take a break from /pol/ and go outside or something. I promise you'll feel better.

>>80348237
>"I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility."
I wish I could be as optimistic as him thinking that that's even an option

>>80349090
cool image man

>>80349090
>take a break from /pol/ and go outside or something. I promise you'll feel better.
I'm outside every day and every day I feel worse because of what I see.

>>80347744
Because he's a fucking white male.

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>>80348015
MUH NOBLE SAVAGES

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>>80349343
only one solution for u m8

>>80349493
I like the cleansing my homeland from the filth part, but I'm too accustomed to the cold to be able to handle Argentina.

>>80348100
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>>80348191
I guess you shouldn't be all that mad then when whiteys are portrayed as evil in recent movies because it's an accurate depiction. ;^)

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>>80349549
>mfw imagining all the nazis getting butchered by based soviets in Berlin while their """fearless""" leader killed himself days before

>>80348828
Ford was a hugely sentimental guy though, he was the archetypal repressed Irishman. Hard on the outside because he knows how soft he really is

Maureen O'Hara also implied she'd seen him kissing men before, but I take that as just a rumor

>>80348015
You missed the point of The Searchers

>>80348090
>I believe in white supremacy, until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility.

>>80347885
I always hear this POV from people who haven't actually seen any of Wayne's movies. The Searchers, Red River and The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance, arguably 3 of his most famous films, do not fit that bill at all, and are in fact deconstructions of these types of stories.

>>80347744
Don't think it's a "conservative/liberal"-thing. He got tough guy roles because he stayed home from the war, while guys like Jimmy Stewart went to war as bomber pilots and shit.

>>80347957
>>80348661
Why the fuck is True Grit always brought up here with Wayne's movies? It's nowhere near his most acclaimed or interesting films. Is it just that the remake put it in people's minds to see?

>>80350232
fill your hands you sonuva bitch

>>80350232
Probably because he won an Oscar for it. (Undeservingly, though he should've won for Red River or The Searchers.)

>>80348622
jej

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>>80349722
>killed himself

He was a nazi

>>80348003
>How rich did you get while Jimmy was risking his life?
Fucking ice cold.

Liberal here.
Love John Wayne.
dont put us all in a box, dick.

He supported the blacklist because it was a threat the freedom Americans fought for in World War 2

which is funny considering he dodged the fuck out of that

>>80348285
That interview is what sets him apart from sycophant cunts in the industry then, and now.

If you're offended that this interview, you're a stupid, weak, brainwashed cunt.

https://pages.shanti.virginia.edu/Wild_Wild_Cold_War/files/2011/11/John_Wayne_Playboy_Int2.pdf

>>80353381
*offended by

>>80348774
Yes, modern liberals are emulating the neocons now.

I am a liberal, live in a very liberal city, went to a liberal university, most of my coworkers and friends are liberal, and i have never heard someone say they dislike John Wayne. In fact most people seem to love Westerns and specifically his.

>>80349343
if you don't like where you live, then just move, fucktard.

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>>tfw MCLINTOCK

>>80347885
Didn't ge play a drunkard in a movie where a city slicker saves a frontier town from bandits?

Had a long name like "the death of --''

>>80348500
Marion is plenty masculine, very close to Marius.

>>80348368
Liberal can mean many things Anon, you have to be more specific

>>80347744
He's loved by actual liberals. Hint: Commies who call themselves liberals aren't the real liberals.