Ducktales

Because it's made on computers.

Blame Steven Universe. This type of junk style is what's popular.

>>80335508

It's a long story but it actually starts with John K.'s satirical commercial style latching on at the same time as flash and digital ink and paint methods of production took over.

John K. himself has accepted blame for a lot of it but he really doesn't owe an apology since he did it right.

>>80335508
Because good animation is expensive

It's all farmed out to Koreans who have no souls and impart no love to their work.

>>80335508
>All white
Dropped

>>80337050
Hey look we got an actual answer.

>>80337092
Boring!

>>80337092

The stillbirth of what would've been the new golden age of animation and the aftermath is one of those greatest stories never told.

>>80335508
Jesus, Donald what happened?
He looks depressed as fuck.

>>80337369
There's nothing wrong with today's animation. Quit your belly aching.

>>80335508
Meanwhile, in the 1940's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb9pm4vXAVc

>>80337398
donald was always depressed but back then it seemed he was aware of it
now he seems depressed but on drugs and don't actually give a shit about anything
fucking disney kikes

>>80337401
Looks like shit.

>>80336813
How?

SU is one of the few shows that doesn't use cheap boring flash animation nowadays. Ducktales doesn't even have any kind of tumblr artstyle for you to cling on SU, you fucking faggot.

>>80337401

If you like your shit tweened by koreans in tiger cages using blown up storyboard thumbs then sure.

I HATE FUCKING

>>80337403
Looks like shit.

>>80337403
That looks like fucking shit.

>he hasnt seen Samurai Jack

>>80337401

There's quite a lot wrong with it, you just don't pay attention.

>>80337369
Sounds pretty interesting. Where can I learn more about it?

>>80337403

And in the 50's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GA16OY6NQ8

>>80337472
NIGGERS

>>80337050
Is there a more arrogant blowhard in the world of animation than John K?

>>80335508
Donald and Scrooge look OK but I'm not a fan of the ducklings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao10T3E0AwY

>>80337574
>>80337403
That style is boring and outdated. I grew up watching that shit. I don't want to see it ever again.

>>80337614

> t. pleb

>>80337587

Danny Antonucci

The worst thing is the fucking voices. Hiring grown aas men to play kids is a terrible terrible idea.

>>80335508
>life is like a nigger

You are singing this in your head

>>80337643
I can't help it ;_;

>>80337642
Yeah that's never been done before ever.

>>80337587

He was supposed to be the chosen one.

>>80337690
That's not the point. It's a always a bad idea.

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>>80335508
>/tv/ shits on another show it will watch religiously after it premieres

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj37D64hWQc

>>80337722
Most kids can't act, let alone voice act.

And once their voice cracks you have to find another one anyway. You're literally bringing up a non-issue and I hope your whole family dies of cancer as a result.

>>80337538

The Stern interview with John K and Billy West is a good start.

Basically started with Nick's foray into the industry after seizing production of R+S, thanks to lots of turmoil and backstabbing. That started the korean studios, which still influence how all production is done today. It just snowballed from there.

>>80335508
>Donald actually wears his uniform most the time
For a moment I thought he was going to look like a washed up middle-aged man at all times.
While the artstyle is a matter of personal taste the animation really looks subpar. I mean even the shittiest Jap porno cartoons have more fluid movement than what Disney showed in the trailer.

>>80337825
That's why you hire women, you fucking mong. Like Russi Taylor, Nancy Cartwright and Pamela Hayden.

>>80337854
Show me a single shitty Jap porn cartoon with more fluid animation than
>>80337790

>>80337827
>>80337587
>John K
>K
So what's his full name?
Like is it a sacrilege to write down his full name so people just stick to the letter K?

>>80337918
Kricfalusi.
He goes by "John K." though.

>>80337901
>muh stronk womyn can do it better

You need to go back.

>>80337912
The one I watched two days ago about some dude banging some chicks.

>>80337947
Fuck off you memespouting nigger.

>>80337948
Oh THAT one.

>>80337985
Yeah, that one.
Pretty good shit desu.

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>>80336813
>lol swjeteven so bad animate bad plot xdd

>>80338155

That still image sure showed him he was wrong about animation

>>80337790

Whilst I'm not any of the people whining above, I'll give it a watch but I certainly do lament the loss of traditional animation here

>>80338212
Here, have something that actually moves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qlsbufBWUA

>>80338309
ew

>>80337403

These were theatrical productions with a big budget behind it. They were meant for the big screen, not TV.

You can't compare those to 26 episodes that are 24 minutes long animated in a tight schedule with slave labor Koreans.

There was talent involved too, but they were given the room to flourish.

>>80337825
Kids do great voice acting all the time you edge lord. Majority of the main cast for The Last Airbender were kids for example.

>>80338309
Ugh. Say what you will about the animation, you can't deny that character design is utter shit

Not to mention that Adventure Time copycat "whimsical" dialogue is cringeworthy

>>80336792
this, everything now is lifeless 3d shit

>>80338579
I still miss the pilot designs.

>>80337827
Billy West made the right decision staying with Nickelodeon.

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>>80335508
When will this lazy art "style" just die?

>>80338309

>No juicy impact on any of the hits

Lamer than the one rapid JoJo fist mashing with the bigger that always gets posted.

>>80338726

When people care about animation again

So never

Americans think animation is exclusively for kids. No one wants to experiment. Those that do end up getting cancelled.

>>80338789
Because most of the experimental stuff is boring crap. If your cartoon doesn't have a good story or funny jokes, nobody is going to give a fuck. This is why John K. hasn't been able to get anything off the ground since Ren & Stimpy. He's not funny and he can't write.

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>>80337403
These are the only cartoons I'll Chromecast off YouTube for my nephews. Sometimes I'll get out the old 6-hour VHS cartoon tapes.

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>>80338789
>No one wants to experiment
Not really. There are people that do try to do different take on animation. It's all just indie shit nobody sees.

Pic related is a good example of a animated movie that doesn't try to be just for kids.

>>80339289
I hope your nephews grow up to hate you.

Aren't you guys a little too old to watch cartoons? This is /tv/, not /co/ or /a/.

>>80339304

Forgive me for moving the goal post but I mainly meant for general audiences.

You won't see a studio produce something in the same tone as Perfect Blue and do a wide theatrical release in America.

>>80339460
Perfect Blue is an animated film. And I doubt it had a wide release in America.

>>80339331
I hope you never have kids!

>>80339432
Are you old enough to suck my dick?

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>>80339505

You do realize that was an example, right?

>>80339608
It's a bad example because mature animated films (that aren't dumb comedies based on American TV shows) were never popular.

>>80335508
more like Cucktales

>>80339687
A Bloo Bloo!

>>80335508
Maybe they just wanted to do an accurate representation of how edgy millennials have become.

>>80337462
>>80338155
>>80338309
Any sperg on /co/ will tell you SU is animated like shit. They can't stay on model for more than 5 minutes at a time.

>>80339773
Millennials are childish, not edgy. They are obsessed with the 80s and 90s, video games, cartoons, anime, super heroes and other infantile junk.

>>80339883
Generation Z is edgy.

>>80338935
this

I spent a big chunk of my life thinking I liked animation.

turns out, I just happened to like mostly cartoons because The Simpsons, Aqua Teen, Frisky Dingo/Archer, Adventure Time, American Dad, etc. had the best writers

then you see stuff that *primarily relies on* its animation instead of its writing. and it's boring as shit.

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>>80339806
The animation is shit, but is the only show animated on paper. The rest of the cartoons are made on computers

>>80340164
>it's boring as shit.
If you actually produce animation you have a much greater respect for it being done properly.

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Why havn't you moved on to anime yet anon?

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>>80340413
Papika a cute! CUTE!

>>80340413
>>80340461
Fucking cringe.

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>>80340609
Oooooooh?

>>80340413
Because it's also shit.

Film > TV > cartoons = anime

>>80337484
>>80337501
>>80337614
quit samefagging underage redditor

>>80340413
Because I'm not a retard.

>>80337827
Watched it and it wasn't particularly informative desu

>>80337827
Was he autistic?

>>80340020
In what sense? Nothing in popular culture is edgy.

>>80337066
American animation pisses away fortunes on things like voice actor salaries, and the animation production is probably very wasteful on top of the inefficiencies caused by outsourcing to a foreign country. The designs and storyboards are also shit, and that's what the Koreans have to work with.

A secret of the anime industry is that good animation isn't expensive, as it's a mostly a matter of talent. Sure, you can say the animators should be paid more, but the point is that better animation doesn't mean higher costs. Unless there is a system in place where better animators charge more money.

>>80340408
any time I tried watching some experimental shorts, I know that what I was seeing had more work and imagination put into the animation than more popular stuff.

but I was realizing that I wasn't enjoying it because there wasn't much/any funny dialog

my point is funny dialog adds more to a show than impressive animation.

that's why American Dad (and the other Macfarlane shows to varying degrees) is good despite having very formulaic, workmanlike animation. funny dialog trumps good animation.

>>80340413
My mother didn't dropped me on the head when I was born

>>80335508
Please tell me this isn't real

>>80341475
anime is nothing but obvious cut corners

they make an impressive opening credits sequence, then the rest is dialog scenes where you see the back of the speakers' heads. or it's long camera movement on a still picture. or it's a barrage of post-production effects (ie not actually animation)

if it's ghibli, it's actually pretty impressive, but that's the Miles Davis of anime.

>>80341191
not him

he means that they support trump, and are against the left/sjws/cia/deep state

>>80341731
All animation cuts corners, especially in television, and the production quality of anime is beyond anything done in American shows. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

>the rest is dialog scenes where you see the back of the speakers' heads. or it's long camera movement on a still picture
These techniques exist, but they are just some of the many techniques used, and people WILDLY exaggerate the limitedness of animation in anime.

>or it's a barrage of post-production effects (ie not actually animation)
Why should things be limited to just raw animation?

>if it's ghibli, it's actually pretty impressive, but that's the Miles Davis of anime.
Ghibli is dedicated to making movies. That's very different from making a TV show. And you can see those same techniques used in their movies too.

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>>80341863
Oh, so he's just wrong then. I see.

>>80337790
This is a bump probably done entirely by a freelance american animator to actually make it look good. The episodes don't have this quality.

>>80337587
He's really not that arrogant desu, people only hate him because it's still an unwritten rule that creator types are supposed to be milquetoast.

>Anon says a show is shit
>Who cares he's just a guy
>John K says a show is shit
THAT MOTHERFUCKER HOW DARE HE REN & STIMPY WASN'T EVEN THAT GOOD!

Sure John K would be an asshole if he just called everything that wasn't his shit and didn't give reasons. But he will go into intricate detail as to why newer cartoons fail to entertain him.

>>80335508
Why does /tv/ have better animation discussion than /co/?

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New Fantasia WHEN?

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>>80337087
they're dark meat on the inside