Captain, I recommend we run a level 2 Star Trek thread immediately.

>in b4 anti-SJWs desperately try to argue that Star Trek is redpilled as fuck rather than admit they enjoy a program which is progressive and made by liberals

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This is unironically the best portrayal of Moriarty of any adaptation.

Daily reminder that Maxwell did nothing wrong.

Nebula class is qt

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>KORGANO, I'VE COME TO BARGAIN

>tfw Frank Sinatra was a huge fan

>>80267362
Star Trek isn't red piled but it did diversity right during TNG and TOS. It didn't matter that Uhura or Geordi are or that Sulu is asian, they're just people.

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>>80267279
Firing torpedoes!

I tried watchi g ToS but accidently watched the "best of" episode collection
Still it was neat

>>80267432
i kek'd

>>80267538
Belay that order, Lieutenant!

>>80267384
I agree. I just wanted them to take him a little further. Pull of some real villainous stuff instead of just "omg this is so fascinating let me explore :O"

Like, keep the villain and the quest for knowledge. Don't remove the one massive aspect of Moriarty.

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Captain, I sense a completely useless eye candy on the bridge, right now.

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>>80267564
But sir they are charging weapons!

>>80267517
Fuck off SJW

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I haven't seen any episodes of Star Trek.

I've only seen the new Star Trek movies, and Wrath of Khan. (They were all moderately enjoyable).

I'm interested in watching The Next Generation.
I have these episodes downloaded. If I like them, I might watch all of it.

Is this a good list for me?

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>>80267564
Sir, if I may-

>>80267723
These are good episodes but you'll miss a lot of shit just jumping through seasons like that.

>>80267727
SHUT THE FUCK UP WESLEY

>>80267723

I'd skip the first, but the rest are pretty great desu

>>80267557
What was bad about doing that?

>>80267803
I've got the first so I can know who characters are and such.

What a shit thread.

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Captain, sensors indicate there's a Klingon standing right behind you! Permission to detonate the warp core and fire all photon torpedoes directly at the bridge!

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>wesley, back on my home planet there were...

>>80267809
I wanted to start from begining to end since Ive never really watched Star Trek before

>>80267865
>both men and women in the Turkana IV rape gangs
Truly the future is a diverse wonderland

>>80267642
>useless
reads enemy minds better than anybody

>>80267865
>MUH RAEP GENGS

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>>80267865
>tfw no rape gangbangin' bros

>>80267934
You can be a part of my rape gang bro.

>>80267953
thanks senpai

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>it's a bajewrans whine about muh work camps episode

TNG has the best individual scifi episodes

Just finished ds9, there were some genuine feels. Gul Dukat best character

>>80267865
>>80267279
>these two fucked
what did they mean by this

>>80268027

>It's a Dr crusher gets fingered by an alien ghost episode

>>80268080
>it's a geordi falls in love with a hologram episode

>>80268042
FULLY
FUNCTIONAL

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>>80268119
>it's a geordi "it's not rape if she's virtual" laforge of all people has the nerve to berate barclay over his waifu holodeck fantasies episode

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>>80268146

Barclay is probably my most liked character in TNG, followed by Data and then Picard.

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>>80267865
Computer, create a simulation of Turkana IV rape gangs. Increase rapist genitalia size by 35% and give them an unlimited stream of semen. Replace rapists face with Wesley Crusher.........Delete program.

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>>80267279
Fuck you Data

Picard is the better captain but Shatner is the better man.

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>tfw replicators can't make potato

>>80268313
Pulaski did nothing wrong
prove me wrong

>>80268438
Best Miles post I've seen in a while.

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>>80267384
>Captain promises Moriarty that he will find a way to free him from the holodeck.
>Forgets about him for 5 years.
>Moriarty pops back up and the captain is like "oh shit, I forgot!"
>Trap him into little cube and promise freedom again.
>Forget an episode later.

Jesus, Voyager was able to give the doctor a holo emitter, meanwhile Data and the best god-damned engineer in all of Starlfeet, Geordi, can't seem to do shit for poor Moriarty.

>>80268229
>it's a Worf hates his son episode

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>it's a nig and nog episode

>>80268229
If I remember correctly, Geordi never berated Broccoli, he actually sided with him and said how he realizes it's just a fantasy but others might not understand.

>>80267865
>>80268284
Shut up and have another Romulan bastard child why don't you.

>It's a people talk about the other shitty ST shows

Can we have one thread without those cunty terrible pissoff shows?

TOS and TNG is all that matters.

>>80268676
And ENT.
But agreed, VOY is a TNG knockoff and DS9 is ten times shittier then VOY.

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>>80268454
Data simply does not HAVE the ability to shitpost. He can enter text and pass CAPTCHA's, yes, but it cannot truly shitpost.

>watching TOS
>kind of mediocre
>get to the romulan episode
does it get good from here?

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Ive been watching TNG in order for the first time. Just hit the Q episode with the Borg introduction. Fuuuuuuug

>>80268726
TNG is a free-love-future with space hippies gallivanting around in the galaxy in a 5-star cruise liner.
Best fucking show in the Alpha and Beta Quadrant.

>>80267362
but SJW's can't stand star trek

>>80268877
>TOS

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>>80268676
>y'all came go the wrong quadrant, nigga

>>80268496
Fuck that uppity hologram. Picard should have just deleted him.

>>80267362
>Socialism
>not red pilled

>>80268496
they stole the holo-emitter from the alternate timeline and it was future tech

I am not even sure they were supposed to keep it

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Replicator, Jamaican coffee blend, double strong, double sweet.

>>80268496
at least is not Riker that adopted that alien kid and then it was never mentioned again

>>80269069
Wait, I'm not doubting that Riker hasn't impregnated every woman from Earth to Romulus, but Riker has a kid?

>>80269128
I am not saying that he actually adopted him, just that he took him and said that he would never be alone again but then it was never mentioned again

>>80269173
Lol. Classic Riker

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how much monday did Picard spend on this sextant?

>>80269069
The one where he gets trapped in the Matrix in a cave?

>>80268496
I like to think they dropped him off at Star Fleet at some point and just didn't leave the cube on the ship to eventually be destroyed.

No, I'm not interested in some novel.

>>80269597
yes, maybe he sent him to live with his father and condemned him to to grow up full of daddy issues too

>>80268676
>TNG
Captain, there's a reddit ship off the port bow. They're hailing us.

>>80269046
But it's the afternoon

Miles never drinks coffee in the afternoon

>>80269681
Mr. Worf, I'm placing you in temporary command

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>>80269734
Very good sir. Today I will show you how real honor is earned. Ready torpedoes!

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DS9 cuties turned into DS9 gilfs

>>80268080
>It's a Dr. Crusher falls in love with a parasitic space slug episode

>>80268721
Kek

>>80269831
>Worfs face in the ONE (1) episode where Picard lets him fire at will.

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>>80268146

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>>80268552
>it's a Nog and Ferengi episode

>>80268589
Yeah, Geordi was just pissed off at Barclay constantly being late and shit

>>80267362
Thanks for trying to ruin the thread right away

>>80267706
this isn't how you false flag

>>80268892
Give me three examples of whatever the fuck you're talking about

And before you post THE shitty webcomic, the artist was torn apart for it by SJWs

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>>80268027

>>80269897
That kira panty peeking out.
I'm about make a vial of white

>>80267362
Star trek is first and foremost for autists

>>80267865
How could such a thing as a planet full of rape gangs even exist within the utopian future of early Star Trek? Roddenberry himself was still part of the writing crew at his stage.

>>80270815
Bajor was a mistake

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>>80270488
>It's not a Nog or Ferenghi episode

>>80270802
You'll die waiting for him to answer, but he'll still go on believing he's right

>>80270887
>Roddenberry himself was still part of the writing crew at his stage.

This explains everything regarding Turkana IV.

Writing away that it wasn't a part of the Federation, there didn't need there to be a continuity when the person writing the episode was slowly losing his mind from years of drug use.

>>80270887
War where that planet was the front line and was largely loosing to a dictatorship?

Pretty obbius.

>>80270887
Who says that's not a utopia?

gene roddenberry was a shitty scummy hack who got lucky by suckering other, more competent people into his vortex while he was busy sleeping with cast members

the whole tasha RAPE GANGS thing is overblown and i think it's just because it's a naughty thing to say online. haha rape gangs lel

>>80271170
shhhhh...it's going to be ok

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/plane

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so i've just finished S1

does it get better?

>>80271229
what the fuck is this garbage

go to hell with your dumb weepy Really Makes You Think shit

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Sir, I've detected Tachyon emissions interfering with our Tachyon inverter. If the Tachyon waves synchronizes with the Tachyon phase pulse it will create a Tachyon breach in the Tachyon interphase generator.

>>80271247
no. no, it never gets better

>>80271291
Transfer Main Engineering to the Bridge.

>>80271247
S2 is of a similar quality to 1, bad. 3 is where it becomes unbearable and even the music somehow manages to get shittier.

>>80271325
They could do most of that, though. Stuff like crunching numbers and running simulations could be done from one of the terminals on the bridge, but actually making the ship's power plant work could only be done from the big pool table in Engineering.

>>80271266
shhhhh...it's not your fault

>>80271365
That doesn't make sense. They could do it from anywhere. It was more useful to do engineering down in engineering though because they could physically look at and do stuff though. It also avoids the problem of losing communication from the distant bridge's computers.

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>>80271365
>>80271325
>Finds out the whole ship is going to blow up and needs to manually input algorithms' into the computer to keep the breach from destroying the Enterprise
>Better waste a few minutes and walk from Engineering to the Bridge

I think it's more 'we need our chief engineer to be on the scene and still able to work while shit's going down'

y'know. routing power, balancing the shields, and issuing orders to the irish to stoke up the boilers dammit etc

>>80271358
>3 is where it becomes unbearable and even the music somehow manages to get shittier.

I don't believe this is a legitimate opinion. The show finally got legs in the third season with the Xindi plot.

>>80267279
So let me get this straight, Worf dies not as a warrior, but by getting fucking Caesared on the Senate floor?

Pretty fucked up.

>>80271247
like every other trek S4 is the best season.

I don't get why it's """controversial""" that the Enterprise-D had families aboard, crew or otherwise? It's the Federation flagship, built during peacetime; so it's going to be seeking out new life, and new civilisations. Although it's more than capable, it's not a warship it's a frigging ocean liner

>>80271471
>balancing the shields

button mashing in battles of million ton ships in star trek online to reinforce shields on the other side of the ship that's being hit

kill for a computer the strength of something from 1952.

>>80271520
after the first dozen or so times all the families almost died along with everyone else, you'd think the crewmen involved, if nothing else, would get their families the hell off the ship for safety

>>80271530
It was the 80s, and TV logic applies. Still, you could make it work by saying it was a Starfleet directive or even Picard's preference to have his senior staff nearby to work as a team on the bridge. Geordi's presumably able to stay on top of Engineering's operations, liasing with the senior staff while his staff carry out the grunt work.

>>80271563
We only see the Enterprise when there's something interesting going on. It's not like there's a suspicious Romulan buildup on [planet] every other day of the week when Brocolli's not making holo-ISIS seize the replicator room as their stronghold or something

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>>80271291

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAoRofHz67M
dat female caitian

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DS9 has the best episode of all treks.

>>80271756
Bill Cosby drugs a girl?

>>80271059
>Ferenghi

>>80271756
Bill Cosby?

Jeffrey Combs rocks

>>80271756
actually that's either Journey to Babel or the one with Picard's flute. maybe Darmok?

>>80271811
I hated his Vorta character but that was the point, his Andorian is one of my favorites ever

Anyone the TNG episode guide about the stuff that you can skip and the must see episodes?

>>80271908
https://imgur.com/a/XwHGU

>>80271520
The idea that Starfleet isn't a military is just Federation propaganda, sure, they have other duties like transporting dignitaries and doing scientific experiments, but so do most modern militaries. And Starfleet fights wars on behalf of the Federation when necessary, so they are for all intents and purposes, a military.

Space is dangerous, especially when there are so many powerful and hostile aliens in it, it's appalling that they risk the lives of their families for idealogical purposes and/or not being willing to leave them somewhere safe, like Earth, while they get attacked for the 26th time this year.

>>80271908
Skip everything in the first two seasons except Q stuff and maybe that Wesley traveler thing, then it really picks up with Riker growing a beard and Crusher coming back.

If in the first 5 minutes negotiators/ambassadors are mentioned, or Majel Barret makes an appearance as anything other than the computer voice, bail.

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D R O P P E D

>>80272007
That sounds like one of those rare, hard-to-play races in D&D like tiefling or dark elf.

>>80271992
>disliking Lwaxana
wow

>>80268496
>have holoprojectors in every med bay of starfleet
>the Doctor is almost able to lead a normal life from one room
>doesn't occur to Picard to just upload Moriarty's program into a house back on Earth with a few holoprojectors around.

>>80272031
She is quite annoying.

>>80271964
Federation ships have phasers and torpedoes because space, yes, is dangerous, and it would be foolish to go out into space without a means of self-defence. And that's all it is: self-defence.

I forget how the Dominion War started, come to think of it. Anyway it would be *worse* if the only Starfleet ships that went out into the final frontier were armed to the teeth and crewed with just enough people to swing over with their swords in their teeth ... when all you have is hammers everything else looks like a nail, right?

>>80271247
Yes.

But it's a series for people who are already big fans of Trek.

>>80271908
>>80271950
>>80271992

Don't skip anything, you fucking plebs

>>80271992
>>80272057
>doesn't like crazy 'please someone knock up my daughter' space milf
the path of wisdom is to look past the casting and gaze instead at the character

>>80272031
She had her moments as that character (the naked marriage one wasn't too bad) but it's hit or miss

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Gul Ducat did nothing wrong.

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>>80272058
>And that's all it is: self-defence.
Federation propaganda

WE HAVE THE HOLO-RECORDINGS

>>80272126
No need to state the obvious

>>80272096
Nurse Chapel should've stayed in TOS. She was shit then as well.

>>80272219
>Shows ship engineered when the Federation (multiple species) faced existential threat
>While attacking during a war where there was an existential threat

it's a teevee show. the federation were unquestionably the good guys. that's how the teevee show was written, on purpose, by a team of writers.

i'd suggest you watch 'blakes 7' because in that show 'the federation' are very bad people, also blakes 7 is a very very very good show

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>>80268313
>>80269990
I miss her. She wasn't retarded like Crusher, she was literally McCoy 2.0, new and improved.

I fucking hate Beverly and her faggot son.

>>80272268
>Shows ship engineered when the Federation (multiple species) faced existential threat
There are loads of Galaxy and Nebula classes there
>While attacking during a war where there was an existential threat
But why are Starfleet involved? You said they aren't a military

TEEVEE SHOW WRITER: hey guys the borg wrecked our shit and there was that thing with picard. maybe we should y'know make a special anti-borg ship because we know all our other ships don't work so good against borg cubes?

MAN WHO SPENDS SIXTEEN HOURS A DAY POSTING PEDOBAIT ON /TV/: oy vey i'm sick of dis jewish propaganda lel i'm big and strong it's like this other thing that's bad, maybe the bad guys were REALLY the good guys makes you think???

>>80272219
Always hated these battles. Why aren't the ships firing en masse and on one ship at a time, pop pop pop?

Why are the older ships near the front where they can be popped instead of in the rear as updated photon torpedo barges?

>>80272340
>she was literally McCoy 2.0

Except even people who like her agree that she was hardly Bones when Data wasn't like Spock in the slightest. In fact, why would you say this? Bones has a personality, a character, an emotional pallet. Pulaski is so bare bones at time that she feels like an extra who go talking lines that week like Lt. Singh.

>>80272340
I strongly agree. Pulaski may have been a bitch, but at least she had character.

and "a" character, for that matter.

>>80272401
tv aesthetics/budgets, early 90s model/cgi limitations, 2004 BSG didn't happen yet.

>>80272354
I didn't say anything about a military, you showed them in a war the Dominion started and had planned to take down the Federation as an argument against self-defence.

Think before you type. The Borg were an existential threat and that's why the Defiant was created.

There wouldn't be a Klingon-Romulan-Federation alliance without the Dominion threat.

>>80269173
>I am not saying that he actually adopted him, just that he took him and said that he would never be alone again but then it was never mentioned again
top kek episode?

>>80271291
oh shit im feeling it

>>80272340
God Crusher was such a retard

>hurr durr don't kill the borg it needs medical attention!
>what do you mean wipe out the borg? what about muh borg children! they never declared war except that one time they tried to attack earth!

Daily reminder that if they had mass produced Defiants, the Dominion would’ve had its ass kicked so hard and so fast they would've run back to their mothers faster than you can say "fuck Bajorans".

>>80272573
You mean that ship the Dominion captured and studied all its technology because the Trek writers are idiots?

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>>80271247
TNG>TOS>ENTERPRISE>DS9>Everything else

>>80272401
Because every time the enemy is shooting at one of your hundred year old refits, they're not shooting at one of your fancier newer starships.
Besides, Excelsiors were still kind of punchy for their age.
Mirandas were there to fill out numbers and soak fire.

>>80272500
Future Imperfect

>>80272412
Neither Crusher nor Pulaski developed half as much character as Ensign Sonya Gomez did in her two episodes.

>>80272762
>Future Imperfect
thanks anon

>>80272219
>Defiant
>literally special snowflake the ship
>lol make it look less like Star Trek as you can

it looks more like a ship from Star Wars

>>80272770
not every characters need development, a lot of people go through their life without changing much

it's fine to have some characters be static and Crusher with her motherly attitude was a nice change from the cranky Bones

I am actually glad all the doctors were different in the various shows, and she still had some good episodes.

Can someone explain why starfleet send senior officers on potentially dangerous away missions?

>>80272876
because you're more emotionally invested in the fates of the senior crew than the redshirts

>>80272749
All that is strategy of failure. You need to overwhelm a ship fast to destroy it, and that means multiple ships firing on one ship.

In the Trek universe, you have to beat through shields, not get a lucky shot as water navies do.

Nobody shoots at weak old ships. Nobody shoots at "tanks". These are all silly AI things from games. All your units attack one thing at a time, healers, which does not apply here, then DPS, which is basically everything, ordered by how fast you whittle down the other side's total DPS, assuming they are all shooting at one of your ships at a time.

If they aren't, you just shoot at one ship at a time on their side and cruise to victory.

>>80272723

I think you meant TOS>DS9>TNG>VOY>ENT>Everything else

>>80273001
>VOY
>Above anything
Seven of Nine can't save it

>>80273001
TOS = TNG > DS9 > TAS = VOY > ENT

>>80272876
The reason they're senior officers is because they're total bad asses who get the job done.

>>80272340
Crusher was so much hotter though

>implying the episode with Crusher where everyone starts disappearing wasn't great

>>80273112
Can't argue with that.

>>80267362
I can't imagine how far gone down the breitbart retard hole to arrive at a place where you can't accept Star Trek is a liberal show and still enjoy it

99.9% of the "discussion" for the new Star Trek show is nothing more than muh liberals

Imagine trying to look forward to a new Star Trek series while also preparing yourself to scream DROPPED the moment something liberal or progressive happens in it. What the fuck are these people thinking? The biggest laugh I got from /tv/ in a long time was reading all the butthurt on here after Sulu had the mildest as fuck gay scene in Beyond.

It's Star Trek. Fucking Star Trek. If you're too redpilled to watch it without getting triggered then why are you even watching it in the first place?

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>It's time to put an end to your trek through the stars

What did he mean by this?

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Captain, permission to bump star trek thread.

>>80273206
The people crying about "SJWs" "ruining" Star Trek Beyond are the dumbest people on /tv/
They rank even lower than the pondscum failures who post every day about bare loli feet.

>>80276280
>They rank even lower than the pondscum failures who post every day about bare loli feet.
I'm not disagreeing with you but this does sound a bit like projection.

>its a "every time you use warp you make tears in subspace that never get better" episode

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>>80267384
If Paramount had balls, this would have been TNG's Kahn; that is, villain from the series returning for a feature film.

Sure it's high-concept, but so is a cryogenically frozen 20th Century bio-engineered Punjabi Warlord played by a Mexican.

Also Lore.

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>>80273051
Remove TAS (because it's non canon and doesn't deserve to be on any series ranking list) and I agree completely.

>>80267432
why does he wear the mask?

>>80270802
>>80271074
>Talking to yourself

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>>80267362
>anti-SJWs

Christ, not even fucking /who/ is as much of a blatant Tumblr colony.

>>80272699
When did that happen?

>make a new series of Star Trek
>make it a prequel
>can't do anything new because muh canon
>show is a failure
>make a new series of Star Trek
>make it another prequel

Why? Is there something that happens in Voyager that means time stopped as soon as they got home?

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>>80267279
>Computer, generate a universe where I'm not a 27 year old kissless virgin
>Unable to comply with your request ... virgin

>>80278743
>Tumblr colony.

It's too obvious to be legit people with mental illness.

I see it as half-shill/half-mental illness. Shills tend to sort by Reply Count then scour the thread for counter opinions then attack with samefagging and the usual goyntelpro.

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>Computer, create 100 self aware Adolf Hitlers each equipped with a Type-2 Phaser, Combat Armor, Gas Masks, Mustard Gas Grenades, and a personal Holographic Projector.
>Computer, now create 20,000 jews across the ship, each equipped with a personal holoprojector.
>Computer, disengage safety protocols

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>>80279285
Is he /ourguy/?

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I find it so funny that the trek fanbase is so autistic they need a character to explicitly explain empathy to them

>>80278962
Forget Voyager getting home, why not set it after ROMULUS FUCKING EXPLODES?

The stories write themselves.

>>80279445
>I find it so funny that the trek fanbase is so autistic they need a character to explicitly explain empathy to them

That was not the purpose of the character, unlike Barclay who was clearly meant to be

Watching q who right now. Gimme eps with best troi tits

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>>80279718

>>80272126
>can't even spell the name correctly

Fuck you for destroying my meme

>>80277280
I never thought of that before but now that I have I really wish they had been that clever. Why did the TNG movies have to be so mediocre?

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DARMOK?

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Sarek for best episode

>>80273206
Have you not seen all of the star trek threads that got derailed by everybody complaining about how the new show will be forced diversity cultural propaganda? These people perform serious mental gymnastics to find things to complain about

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Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

>>80280100
>Why did the TNG movies have to be so mediocre?

Because, in comparison to the series, it's hard to live up to that level of quality.

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Commander, tell me about your sexual organs.

>>80268041
This desu.

VOY > TNG
Picard is reddit incarnate

>>80280421
>being this wrong

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>>80269173
poor lil guy

>>80269454
You just know

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>>80280421
It does have best boy

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>>80267279
>want to get expirience Trek
>depressed and shit attention span

>>80280570
Trek will cure your depression

maybe drink a few beers before marathoning

>>80267859
I really liked the post TNG finale com badges. Anyone else? What is the story behind the switch or is it just tradition kinda?

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>>80267279
BELAY THAT ORDER
we launch an full spread of maximum yield memes immediately

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>>80280715
Hahaha eat shit Picard, this is for not letting me on the bridge in season 1

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So was it ever explained how a bunch of starved, low tech, smelly Bajorans somehow managed to overthrow their superior Cardassian rulers? Keep in mind these are the same people that used to fly around in fucking wooden ships

>>80271247
No com-badges. JUST

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>>80267642
>eye candy

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For the most part, Star Trek is a nothing but a bunch of gay, ham-fisted, preachy pc/sjw bullshit propaganda… especially tng, voyager, and ds9.


The only Trek really worth watching is the original tos pilot, "The Cage", and Enterprise.

>>80281152
Lol i dont think that is a chair, if it is i wouldn't want to sit on it.

>>80281417
F I N E W I N E

>>80280154
Why does he clench his fist

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>>80271247
Enterprise was the only Trek series that was good from the very beginning.

Seasons 1-3 were the best. Season 4 was when the quality started to fade. Most all of the stinkers are in season 4.

Trektards hate it, because it isn't gay enough.

It's actually a good thing that the show was cancelled early. With Coto in charge, it would have quickly devolved into yet another woefully gay PC fest only suitable for faggots, sjw morons, cucks, and trannies.

If you don't like Enterprise, you may be a trektard.

>>80279087
>>80279285
>>80280154
>>80280302
>>80280344
>>80281569
Ha ha ha, I've seen these before and repetition is funny ha ha. [emoticon]

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>>80281712
it was used to CONFIRM that Friends and Star Trek take place 350 years apart in the same timeline

>>80279445
Wasn't there a Pictures for Sad Children about this?

>>80281924
How 'bout this. You shut your mouth. Or I'll kick your teeth down your throat and I'll shut it for you.

>>80281726

Sagging, leathery skin... bitchy, entitled attitude... all kinds of weird odors...

There's nothing more repulsive than an old, saggy, smelly hag who thinks makeup and jewelery can hide her natural repulsiveness.

Fine wine my ass.

>>80272219

How is it that this TV show space battle from 1998 looks better than shit like the Force Awakens?

>>80272219
>With the vast expanse of infinite space available, animates space battle as a huge, tightly packed clusterfuck.

What stupid moron was responsible for that retarded shit?

>>80281152
The Bajorans didn't defeat the Cardassians militarily. Their terrorism made the situation so bad that the Cardassian government made the decision to withdraw,

>>80281152
They didn't. The withdrawal was a political decision made by the civilian leaders on the Detapa council, leading military experts such as Gul Dukat advised against it.

It was never explicitly mentioned but I suspect they'd taken everything they wanted, it wasn't like the Bajorans won some great military victory.

Never watched star trek before. What series is best to get into.

>>80282542
First watch TOS, which starts good but becomes bad after two seasons. Then watch TNG. Then watch DS9.

or

First watch TNG, which starts bad but becomes good after two seasons. Then watch TOS. Then watch DS9.

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>>80282542
Here you go senpai

>>80282778
Thanks famalam. Is enterprise actually that bad?

>>80267362
I wonder if Discovery will wipe all of this away with muslim characters and virtue signalling.

>>80282843
It depends what you mean by "that bad", it's Star Trek-y but very different to previous incarnations, but it's not unwatchable, it's just that if you go into it and expect it to be on the levels of TOS, TNG and DS9 you're going to be majorly disappointed, because even diehard fans admit it doesn't get good until half way through at best.

I think it's the worst Trek other than the reboots but that's probably only because Voyager had more opportunities to be good.

>>80282843
T'pol and Shran are the only good things about ENT.

>>80279750
Fucking hell

>>80267362
Star Trek doesn't do progressive in the ham fisted way SJW's normally operate. the conservative characters in Trek are rarely 2D caricatures and even when they are portrayed as villains they are still given understandable motivations and often heroic qualities.

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why was Dr Kelso on the Enterprise?

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>>80282965
>>80283040

Just admit that you're a flaming queer and move on.

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>>80281569
>>80281910

Friendly reminder:

>Roddenberry wanted men making out in "Encounter at Farpoint"

>Roddenberry hated God so much that he needed Q to deal with his endless hatred of God even though no one else wanted Q

>Roddenberry wanted no interpersonal conflict, not even minor disagreements

>Roddenberry was the one who demanded dresses on men as well as women instead of a formality that existed by the end of Season 6

>Roddenberry gave the franchise to Berman who, despite his flaws and agreement with Roddenberry's vision, knew it would fail if it went down that route

We should all thank Rick Berman and Mike Piller for saying no to that gay commie after he croaked.

>>80271506
But TNG's best season is 5 and DS9's is 6

>>80283304
What's with all the reposts?

>>80268313
> lets get rid of the actually capable doctor that doesn't take Picard's shit and bring back the red head that wants his cock.

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>>80279416

I'll take his better character.

>>80279633
That's an event that's only significant to established fans, they want to appeal to as many people as possible with this new show

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>>80280715
>Hunter S. Picard

>>80283567
>That's an event that's only significant to established fans
u wot m8
it's the focus of the first reboot movie

>>80267279
>op got me postan

>>80267279
I'm just starting to watch DS9, on Ep. 2 right now. Anything I should expect?

>>80283769
It's in there, but it certainly isn't the focus.

>>80283875
The last 2 episodes of season 1 are great.

The episodes until then... not so much.

>>80283875
like riker, it gets much better when sisko grows the beard and shaves his head

>>80283903
it's the fucking motivation behind the bad guy destroying vulcan and attacking earth

>>80284017
It's in there, but it certainly isn't the focus.

>>80284318
damn, how old is this gif?
Looks like mid to late 00s

The biggest relationship fuck-up of anyone in any Trek was Bashir not sticking with his qt 3.14 genefu.

>>80271247
The next season and change are thoroughly mediocre but somewhere in S3 it gets breddy gud (and stays that way) and S4 is absolutely top-tier through and through.

/r/equesting more gifs of Picard viewing things on his computer and having various reactions to them thanks

>>80267432

>May I have the password please?

>>80279445

i read, somewhat recently, her character was a relic from the original script in which her psychic abilities were used to talk to the whales they kept on board? because whales were more adept at navigating three dimensional space?

what is it with star trek and whales?

>>80281152
The Cardassian government decided (over the protestations of the military) that being on good terms with the Federation was worth more in the long term than what they were getting out of Bajor and decided to withdraw.

The whole occupation thing is pretty retarded when you think about it; all of the characters whine and cry about 15 million people dying - over 60 years - on a planet with a population of 3 billion. They still have their religion, their culture, their traditions and any number of other advancements and on top of that the Cardassians probably gave more than they got in return by basically letting Bajor skip a century of development; I would be surprised if more than 15 million lives weren't either saved or directly enabled over a 60-year span by Cardassian technologies.

>>80285209
>what is it with star trek and whales?

wtf are you talking about?
they had one movie where cetaceans were sentient and created an interstellar probe, that's it

>>80285209

It was the 80s. Dolphins and whales were all the rage.

>>80283875
it's going to get a lot better once it stops being so monster of the week

wait for sisko to grow the beard

>>80285277
protip: read ENTIRE posts to get their full context

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>>80285242
>...and frankly I believe a large part of the Bajoran's resentment of the occupation came from the simple, petty jealousy of Bajoran "men" of the fact that the sheer masculine virility of Cardassian men proved irresistible to the Bajoran female during those years.

>t. Gul Dukat

>>80285941
can you show me a schematic of the enterprise where there is a picture of where they keep these whales?

>>80286044
>a relic from the original script

>>80267723
These are some of the best of the show, but a lot of them you won't appreciate unless you've been watching. Yesterday's Enterprise for example is specifically made with the intent that you're familiar with the crew and the show; it loses a lot of effect if its the fourth episode you watch.

>>80286044
Your massive failing in reading comprehension notwithstanding, there WERE cetaceans onboard.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphin
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Aquatics_lab
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Cetacean_Ops

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>>80286064
>what is it with star trek and whales
>cites an unused early draft snippet and Star Trek IV as his usage of this statement

>>80286247
...yes, and? That's a completely logical and appropriate statement given those concepts. You're making a big deal over nothing here.

this bilge about whales is very tacky. stop throwing salt. water you doing? please sea reason and belay this blubbering. this has gone beyond innocent gibes. it blows. hole threads have been royally shrouded by less. fin.

>>80286235
Yeah nigger, I read just perfectly fine, and I think it's time for your insulin shot.
>http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphin
>original statement was about "whales"

Yeah, no, you can't read for shit.

>http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Cetacean_Ops
>The term "Cetacean Ops" was only heard in the "background chatter" during the episode. The existence of a comparable facility was canonized in the episode "The Perfect Mate", but it was not mentioned by name in that episode

Again, sounds like a malapropism or misnomer if they are connecting to disparate facilities that were never shown on screen or ever heard of again. If the writers can't make up their mind then, like other questionably "canon" items, you shouldn't assign such importance to it actually being canon.

>http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Aquatics_lab
>The existence of such a facility was canonized in the episode "The Perfect Mate", but it was not mentioned by name in that episode. To date, the facility has never been shown. It may be the same facility mentioned in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise", where it was referred to as "Cetacean Ops".

Wow. It's fucking nothing. Again. Three different terms for three different facilities, and this one doesn't even have mention of whales in the title.

>...yes, and? That's a completely logical and appropriate statement given those concepts. You're making a big deal over nothing here.

Mate, you sound like the one making a huge fuss about shit that we saw in _A_ movie. Not to mention, the comment was about whales. You've created your own fictional world of sea creatures in a fictional universe. Grab a fucking hold of yourself, there is literally Star Trek IV and a throwaway line in Yesterday's Enterprise.

>>80286438
I'm this nutcase >>80286511
and I didn't laugh until "fin" so kudos.

Do you think Spock would entertain the idea of experiencing sex via mind meld with a whale?

Star Trek is socialist with liberal characteristics - basically a Berniebros show.
Trumptards and Clintoncunts can't stand it.

>>80286511
oh yeah you're /definitely/ not making a bigger deal out of it than me.

>>80286865
If Spock melded with Tillicum would he have the same problems Tuvok had with Suder or are whales just too different?

>>80280100
movies are expensive and have to cater to retards who just want to see bald man shoot gun

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>>80287049
Look, mon capitain, I'm not saying that the writers weren't trying to appeal in some way to the autistic Trekkies NEED to have various weird elements of their fiction tie in as realistically as the next guy but I have to call a false start five yard penalty that it was ever more than one large part of one good TOS movie and nothing more.

The statement "wtf is it with Star Trek and whales" implies there is MUCH more than we've been let on about the whales in Trek.

What do you think? Is it really a big deal?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DaystromInstitute/comments/1rklmn/dolphins_on_enterprise_cetacean_ops_logistics/

>>80287332
oh yeah you're /definitely/ not making a bigger deal out of it than me.

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>>80287372
FAGGOT WHERE IS YOUR OPINIONS?

WERE WHALES THE PROGENITORS OF THE HUMANOID PROGENITORS?

I'm trying to broach a middle ground here and you keep telling me I'm making some huge deal about Star Trekian Dolphins.

>oh yeah you're /definitely/ not making a bigger deal out of it than me.

No, I'm not.

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Was the Cetacean Lab really just an S31 cover for enslaving Aquatic Xindi?

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>>80287598

Oh shit, I forgot about the Xindi Aquatics. They were like the level-headed brains behind the group and were the ones commissioned with the creation of the planet-destroyer weapon.

Remember when Archer entreaties his species' survival and the destruction of the weapon? One of my favourite moments from Season 3.

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>tfw when looking for whale sex all over the internet other than YT and can't find any

>>80283150
>the conservative characters in Trek are rarely 2D caricatures and even when they are portrayed as villains they are still given understandable motivations and often heroic qualities.

A good example of that was a TNG episode where O'Brien has to confront his former captain to stop him from rampaging against the Cardassians. In the end, though, it turns out that captain might have been right about the Cardassians preparing for conflict by shuttling military supplies and maneuvering near the border.

So while the rampaging captain was wrong to go off on his own and kill Cardassians without first consulting his superiors about his suspicions, his actions ultimately exposed Cardassian deception.

Also, the guy was apparently a war hero from the Federation-Cardassian war/border conflict/whatever and he inspired a sense of loyalty in his crew, which was shown through O'Brien's admiration of the man.

tl;dr
Episode showed that even people with admirable qualities (such as leadership and inspirational charisma) and good intentions (to expose military buildup in violation of a treaty) could falter and lose their way.

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>>80281964
This?

>>80270815

Cardassias flag is a woman's genitalia

>>80272035
Moriarty would have demanded more anyway.

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>>80288321
You're thinking of this guy.

>>80270533
And, iirc, Geordi was also initially mad at Barclay for creating a humiliating depiction of him in the holodeck

>>80288779
Broccoli

>>80287500
oh yeah, you are /definitely/ not making a bigger deal out of it than me.

this is a whale of a thread

whale i'll be

whale i never

whale, me worry?

whale, whale, whale...

>>80271247

Season 4 is the best season. If you started there I think it's pretty good actually.

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is TNG the most comfy Trek series to watch?

>no giant season long story arcs to worry about watching out of order
>almost every episode is a self contained story

>>80289517
yes.

TOS is comfy because of it's sheer wackiness at times, but TNG has the perfect comfy atmosphere.

why are we talking about whales?

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>>80273051
>>80273001

Gonna have to go TOS = TNG = DS9 > ENT > VOY

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Brunt, FCA.

This thread is against regulations. Who authorized this?

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>>80280570

Ain't nothing wrong starting with some of the best episodes before wanting more and more until you run out of all like 700.

Journey to Babel is my favorite episode, but The Defector (from The Next Generation) might be a good intro to the whole franchise. As is Measure of a Man (also from The Net Generation)

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>>80289644
Me, Grand Nagus Rom

I never watched Star Track. What's supposed to be so great about it?

>>80289921
gs4gp

>>80289931
What does that mean? Is it some kind of space code from Doctor Spock?

>>80289921
depends on which Trek, they all have their perks.

you have to watch them to really understand.

>>80281924
Glad you like them my friend, I'll post the again sometime.

>>80272029
tieflings are easier to play combat wise

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>>80289743
No IM Grand Nagus