The Expanse S2 Thread #lost count

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Vaccuum sucks, belter miner don't care.

>>80227952
HDTV is the worst version there is?

btw, is there a webm where his uncle shows how to fuck the system?
just rewatching s1 made me realize he throw the rocks to the martian police.

but he shouldn't die in the process.... didn't tycho station saved him as well? why not?

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>>80228191
The uncle died. The Martian patrol ship zapped his ship. Diogo was left floating in space where presumably he got picked up so Miller could mercilessly constantly rib him about his space-virginity.

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Wonder if Mars will ever disclose its drug problem with the rest of the system?

>>80228264
fyi Babylon 5 came up with the term, to space someone.

Expanse is uber shit.

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What a shitshow of an episode.

If they cant get her suit feed working by next episode this series is officially dead. Like literally everyone knows that it is a protomolecule monster that killed everyone, just show us it already.

Someone who remembers the books better, did it take Bobbie this long to remember? As far as I remember she could formulate what happened pretty soon, it was just that fixing the antique suit took some time so they got proof.

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>>80228651
Why does this series need so many niggers?

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>>80228680
>I've only watched babbies first scifi show

The term 'spacing someone' has been around since Clarke, Asimov, Herbert, et al.

Should rename this 'The Dawes Episode.' he's just roaming around Tycho buttering them all up: Fred, Drummer, Naomi, and even Diogo. The man just does not stop.

>>80228706
They're stretching out the events on Ganymede it looks like. I got the impression from the book that the whole breakdown-of-society thing there took place over a week and change. If they're only just dispatching the Roci there now it's going to take much longer.

>>80228736
i guess bc it's MADE IN AMERICA

>>80228950

im glad he is getting some episodes dedicated to him, i loved him in fringe

>>80228736
It also needs lots of gays like every other show that comes out. Reminds me of Defiance where everyone was a low-key faggot because of ark-tech or something.

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>>80228736

>>80227889
Next ep looks good, I hope they save the cute Asian kid ;_;

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i just want to see the damn ayylmaolecule monster doing his thing...

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Tonight's big budget blowout sequence. Cut out all the bits of Alex tapping touchscreens and Naomi looking suspiciously reluctant.

>>80228950

More Dawes is always welcome, I'm glad we're getting more. Love that oily fuck.

>>80229736

>>80229736
niggerniggerniggerniggernigger

>>80229736
based "altrightpussieswhocryabouteverything"poster

Good episode. I love that Dawes is back. He can carry episodes like Miller did. I also liked muh Reen showed a little emotion beyond anger and that Naomi is expressing more conflicting interest with Holden instead of being his lap dog.

>>80229917
I appreciate the work you do, anon. Yours is not a thankless job.

>>80228651
It's just Adderall.

>>80228706
In the books;
Bobbie knew all along about the monster. The Martians believe her, because they just look at her suit guncam footage and see she's telling the truth. Earth also knows, because they have loads of orbital footage of the battle happening.

Honestly all the pointless tension in the show compared to the books kinda annoys me. There's already enough intrigue and suspense without having to make up extra stupid shit.

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>>80228706
Never read the books and the series is doing fine from my perspective. Sucks to be a bookfag I guess.

>>80229845
I really don't think we are going to see the proto soldier tearing through marines. Moving the virtual camera around CGI boxes in empty space and showing explosions is one thing, having a CGI humanoid tearing though the armor of live actors is quite another. Better to just show the aftermath to save money.

Someone needs to kill that Bobbie bitch. Who the fuck does she think she is acting all cocky towards Earthers?

I understand now why we had that silly side plot about the Martian marines before. I thought it was a stupidly useless plot line that didn't lead anywhere that did more to showcase the inability of those extras to act than to establish any grounds for further development. But now I understand it was to build them up such that the emotion Bobbie feels for their loss feels more real. The CGI tears would have meant very little if her team hadn't been the least bit fleshed out.

>>80228736
>like space and stuff
>the expanse comes out
>like every characters is shitskin

this show is so gay

>>80233636
>not shipping a bunch of cheap union-less Africans into space to work your space silver mines
You wouldn't last a day as the head of a metanat.

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>>80228651

>tfw ywn interrogate a space qt under the influence of space amphetamines

Weird how many actors in this show I recognise cause of their voice acting work. First we had Adam Jensen, who got assimilated in Eros, and also this guy who played Nick in Left4Dead2.
And I'm pretty sure I've recognised more but I've forgotten

Is this show worth watching?

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>>80233910
forgot pic

>>80233937
It' worth watching if you 3 of the following are true:
>You enjoyed a single episode of any SyFy original.
>You enjoy political machinations.
>You enjoy realism in your science fiction.
>You enjoy space battles.
>You enjoy space in general.

So we got ayy lmaos now ?

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>>80234851
>You are Benny.

so I'm halfway through book two and finally ahead of the show
so am I right thinking the protomolecule is essentially building a star gate/wormhole engine/star travel device on venus?

>>80228680
Wow, you should spare yourself some embarrassment and delete this.

>>80228651
Can Mr webm maker also do one of Bobbie taking the focus drugs, please? Was awesome to finally get more of the experience from the users viewpoint shown.

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fucking filler episode :(

>>80233910
Fred Johnson's actor played Coach in L4D2.

>>80236290
he doesn't even look old enough to be her commanding officer.

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>Earth ships fire first
>destroy their own mirror
>lose the battle "decisively"
>debris kills 3k of their colonists

So this is the power of UN Navy. Whoa...

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>>80236290
Why did he take the pill? does it see if they lie? it looked like she lied.
The pony tail martian also did it to the mains

>>80236639

Pills sharpen their senses. A lot.

>>80236639
Space grade martian amphetamines. The thing they give to ADHD kids but x100 potency.

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>>80236796
why give that to a half dead fatty

gimme your best Drummers

>>80229845
well compared to the book the ayy factor is at 0% in the show
at least in the book the monster is only one thing compared to the whole of venus doing some ayy shit and everyone's looking into it

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Where did our boy Amos go all episode?

>>80237353
if it were book Amos he'd be in the whorehouse
I don't like how they are trying to spell it out for the dummies in the show that he had some troubled past. Nowadays you just can't have a cool as a cucumber character without some heavy handed drama thrown in.

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>>80237498
I don't think that type of character would stay interesting in a long running show like this, doesn't hurt to add a little back story and depth

also could they have gotten a bigger faggot to play Holden

>>80237653
yeah, at least he finally stopped sounding like as if he was about to burst into tears
this ep he's been more useless than naomi, which was shocking

also, when's Prax

>>80236290
It was a necessary episode so no, it's not Goku and Piccolo learning how to drive.

>>80236571
Holy fuck, I would never have made that connection

>>80236595
Earthers don't give a shit about Ganymede, it doesn't feed them.

>>80237653
>Hey You-toob

>>80237983
It doesn't feed Mars either. But both have colonies and outposts in the region.

>>80236595
Did this mirror catastrophe even happen in the book? If I did my math right geostationary orbit is inside Ganymede. That means the mirrors had to be one of the Lagrange points. I don't have the time to figure out how to do the math right now.

It just seems unlikely that the mirror debris would so suddenly destroy the dome before they could prepare.

>>80238749
>redpill.webm

>>80237744
>also, when's Prax

That's what I want to know. gib prax bro now, reee

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>>80239176
>>80237744
PRAX!

>>80239125
What's there to prepare for? Mirror is a couple thousands tons of metal and glass raining down. Even if it missed dome there's the shockwave from all that mass enough to maybe pop the bubble.

>>80239125
That happened in the books aswell.

>>80239125
In the books it takes many hours for the mirror shards to fall, only really allowing time for people to evacuate the domes.
But the big problem wasn't the impact itself, it's what the impact caused: complete destruction of their food harvest & delicate ecosystem, leading to wide-spread famine.

>>80239125
The mirrors destroy the domes but pretty much everyone is evacuated underground beforehand. In the books what kills most of the people is the ensuring humanitarian crisis and lack of food.

They're really slow-burning this part of the season, aren't they? Which strikes me odd because Caliban's War was such a page-turner.
At this rate they'll barely make it halfway through the events of the books.

>>80232120
Same thing with GoT. It's much easier to watch now that there is no book to reference to. Season 1 was basicly the book at verbatim so nobody complained but with the diverging storylines things had to be changed. Bookfags couldn't handle it.

>>80228706
Book spoilers, obviously

Bobbie knew about the monster all along, and so did the MCRN, who saw her gun-cam footage, and the UNN knew as well, but Bobbie was the only living witness.

Generally speaking, things get rolling a lot quicker in the book because there's a sense of urgency regarding the Ganymede Incident. The show is trying to up the tension and slowly build towards something.
Problem is, the event they're building up to (which I won't go over) isn't exactly a good season finale, since the book's pacing is a lot better and the events & timing makes more sense.

>>80239246
>shockwave
>space
how fucking stupid are you

>>80240562
You see THAT makes sense. Once again the TV adaptation screws things up for the sake of brevity.

>>80241487
>What is the ground

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

>>80241487
>>80241575
It was a misunderstanding, my dudes. Calm thine tits (male).

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>shit episode
>shit actress

>>80236571
Are you kidding me? He's more well known for playing Cutty in the Wire and Tyreese in Walking Dead.

>>80241105
fugg gotta read fast
although book 2 is a much quicker read than book 1
>>80242527
that double chin is the most grevious offence

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Sexy gurl

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>HOL UP

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>>80242811
*smacks lips*

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>>80242847
>SO YOU BE SAYIN

>>80242805
Did she betray my nigga Fred

fucking sluts

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>>80242888
>WE WUZ MARZ AN SHIT?

>>80233636
>being mad that there are black people in space

I bet you're a lot of fun to be around

>>80242805
>>80242811
>>80242847
>>80242888
>>80242933
How new does an anon have to be to still find this meme funny?

>>80242805
her and julayy lmao
2 better looking hapas in a long time

>>80243013
not that guy, but maybe niggos have an advantage in space, blending in with the background?

Miller and Holden are both useless cucks. Praise Amos and Naomi ok not detective faghawk and budget rob stark

>>80243037
I'm not new, I just hate that they turned a good story into a shitshow.

>>80243207
why wouldn't there be black people in space? there are quite a lot of them on this planet

>>80243086
book miller was miles better and his motivation was way clearer
in the show him falling for julie didn't feel grounded, more like something plot required him to become so he did

holden is goody two shoes in way over his head. In show, where they can only show instead of telling what's in his mind he comes across as useless and whiny.

Naomi is pure useless rockhopping belter monkey who would betray her captain fo da belt

Amos is cool

Alex has more of a character than in the book, which is kinda cool. I'm liking him being more than just a pilotman

Avasarala is getting cornier each time she appears somehow, she's meant to be kind of a big deal in the UN but lately she's been lacking the air of that status

Fred dindu nothing

Dawes is a cunt.

>>80243286
Black countries can't even launch satellites, and probably never will be able to. Why would white countries allow them to pollute space?

>>80243378
well at least india has a space program
superpower by 2020

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>>80243378

>>80243447
These are astronauts from a "white" country. They are a minority, and so is their number of astronauts smaller. In the show, they try to make it look like every african shithole has a space program and is seeding the belt and Mars with niggers. Literal hollyjew propaganda.

>>80243207
>implying race is in anyway relevant to the story

>>80243573
Yes, surely anyone who casts black actors for a science fiction show must be acting in collusion with the perfidious Hebraic contingency

>>80243378
>>80243573
And you think we will be sending our best and brightest to mine silver in asteroids? Multinational corporations are going to use the cheapest labor possible in those dangerous conditions.

But no, ignore that just so you can rant about race.

>>80243447
He said black countries, not black people.

>>80243693
In reality no one will mine asteroids with picks. It's going to be robotic drones, probably supervised by engineers. And scientists and rich people on Mars, the belt and beyond. Many will be asians, but very few will be niggers.

>>80243801
In reality we'll never create sustainable populations on colonized worlds because embryos don't develop in microgravity

>>80243892
>Mars
>microgravity

go away nigger

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>you're in the club on Tycho Station
>this guy walks in and slaps your girlfriend's ass
What do?

>>80243926
It's 0.376 g on Mars, and worse on many other bodies. You'll never manage a viable pregnancy without some kind of centrifuge. Reproduction will be extremely expensive.

>>80244042
>0.376 g
>microgravity

>You'll never manage a viable pregnancy
>what is genetic engineering

>expensive
that's why niggers won't be there, because they are poor and can't afford it

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>picked up by Netflix but they haven't started airing it yet
What the fuck, are they waiting for season 2 to finish so Syfy can claim it got some ad revenue?

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>>80243801
>>80243573
>>80243378
>yfw niggers exist
>yfw they're in your countries
>yfw they're in things you enjoy
>yfw you spend your time here rather than making any effort of doing something about it


You're just as bad as women who about not having any female representation in something. Actually, you're even worse, because they at least get shit done for their cause. What have you done for yours?

>>80243942

STAY AWAY FROM TA ASSQUA

>>80243942

I'lI share everything with my beratnas, then I proceed to fuck his boipucci

>>80243892
How is that in any way a problem? That's what centrifuges are for. Also give srouce.

>>80233937
No

>>80236841
To aid her memory obviously

>>80244042

Why would a centrifuge be expensive?

So now that that awful muh-reen squad is finally dead, Gunny was way more tolerable, although she slipped back into being a fucking retard at the end of her interrogation for a few seconds. Please tell me she becomes a good character bookfags

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>you will never get to do space drugs
Seriously how do they always manage to make future drugs look so great

>>80244362
she goes to Earth and gets cucked by the gravity and the vastness of not being in a fucking dome but she still remains a fucking le powerfull gurl meme

>>80236841
so the fatty finally tells you how she shit her pants. You see, this stupid bitch has a reputation of being a bad ass even though she has only been a bad ass in training or shit missions were she has the upper hand and support. They know she is lying and they need to know why and what happened.
I'm interested to know what the fuck will happen with the cover up. Or better yet actually who's the owner of the drone and I will laugh my ass off if the drone was just data collecting the encounter and the UN Marines and Fatty McCunty were just bait.

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I continue to be mad they casted this fatty.

>>80244663
>fatty
There is no doubt in my mind that she could kick your ass six ways 'til Sunday.

>>80244903
I'm actually /fit/, it's why I'm so triggered by this "marine".

>>80244973
She's an MMA fighter. I'm inclined to believe that beats your gym membership.

>>80245109
Even if we disregard that she is fat and slow for a minute, and we ignore my fighting training as well, women sports are still just a meme.

>>80229450
Its actually made in Canada faggot.

Just started s2. Does this SJW Mary sue Martian bitch get any more tolerable, or is it going to be shit the whole way through?

>>80245529
looks like we're in for a shit ride until at least the finale since they're dragging to fill air time

>>80245568
Fuuuuuuck.

Also I'd rather not have ayyys in this show. It feels so grounded, why blow that for this weird system shock bullshit?

>>80245109
That explains her complete inability to act.

>>80245801
Ayys are a big part of the story. If we get to season 3 DOUBT you will see why.

So, for some reason I can excuse this show for not simulating the effects of low-G living on the various populations. I think I give it a pass because they lampshade it often enough in dialogue, and it would look utterly stupid if everyone looked like that stringbean extra that asthma-lady interrogated in S1.

However, sound in space drives me crazy because it would be so easy to fix, and it's also something commonly known. If they're striving to be hard-sci-fi (plus aliums, which is fine), why are they making the mistake that even sci-fi plebes know is wrong?

Sometimes you can excuse hearing sounds during space battles because the characters on the ships would obviously hear their own engines and weapons firing, and explosions would make noise on the ship upon which they're occurring. However, hearing two ships worth of sounds in one unbroken shot doesn't make sense. Likewise, you should never hear missiles thrusting once they've left the tube.

The other small annoyance is that the bullets are all tracers. You would never need/want tracers in space unless you're dumb-firing a gun. Even if you're firing it manually, ship weapons are still fired via a screen, and the screen can just project the bullet trajectory arc artificially. Tracers are for when you're looking with your own eyes and have no computer targeting. They might make sense on a squad-level heavy weapon meant to fire on vehicles, but even the marines have targeting software in their HUDs.

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>>80237353
he was belowdecks napping unsecured when the roci thrusted. he's jelly on a bulkhead now.


he when the roci thrusted. he's jelly on a bulkhead now.

>>80246403
They don't do no sound in space because it would be fucking boring to watch. It's such a foreign concept , even though everyone knows it's true. It would disengage the audience

>>80246403

One possible excuse for the tracers is that almost all the ship guns we've seen are gatling guns. Gatling guns glow red hot even when fired continuously in air environments. In space theres no matter to radiate the heat to through convection, all you have is radiation. Both the barrels and the projectiles would be red hot leaving the barrel and stay that way for a fairly long time. But from the footage we dont see the barrels glowing so my point is already moot.

>>80246693
>what is music?
>what is ship-internal sound from a subjective POV

>>80245315
She can beat your ass sidewase. Get over it, dude. :^)

>>80247571
she couldn't even beat cellulite

Will they ever get back to the story of of the guy who invented the space/warp drive?

Did anyone else find it to be really reckless the way the martian truck driver and the quite fit but still quite female resistance fighter decided to stage a boarding action of what they presumed was Dawes' ship

I mean there could have been a dozen OPA heavies waiting for them, they would have been fucked

>>80247889
he's a navy pilot who just wasn't assigned an armed ship. he has the same training any other navy pilot would have, which would include boarding actions.

moreover, given how rare actual combat is currently in this standoff/cold war setting, he probably has as much combat experience as all but the saltiest vets in the system.

moreover, if you kill any of the Roci's crew, you're basically a criminal as far as belters are concerned. they're heros even if they might be doing shit you disagree with.

you could beat them up or stop them without going completely evil and being blacklisted by your support, but not kill them. conversely, the protags could basically shoot people down in that scenario and be justified and forgiven by the rest of the divided OPA and belters

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>>80243801
there will always be poor people. I've no doubt that the poor on earth will never make it to space, but however we manage to get off this planet, the first thing we'll do is settle into a pecking order based on our roles. labor and management, owners and users, networked and isolated... whatever. someone always gets to be poor.

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>>80245109
She trains with martial arts. IIRC the only fighting Adams has ever actually done was in a couple of the 'Fight For Life' events in NZ - where they raise money for cancer charities by getting celebs to jump into a ring and beat the hell out of each other.

>>80243693
Getting out to the asteroids in the first place, and operating the expensive mining equipment once there, safely and without injury, means that the workers will probably actually be very skilled and well compensated until space travel becomes very cheap. Think of it like the guys nowadays who go out to the oil rigs and make six figures.

I don't see why a lot of them wouldn't be Black or any other race, but it depends on demographic trends. Right now the sort of skilled blue collar labor who would go to do work like this would be mostly White and Hispanic in Western countries, and obviously Asian in Eastern countries. Blacks would have to do some catching up to be able to populate the Belt like in the show.

The alternative answer is that the Epstein Drive and similar technologies made space travel in the show's universe sufficiently easy and cheap that unskilled workers are now cost effective o use in asteroid mining, in which case the workers going up there would mostly come from developing countries, making the Belt as racially diverse as it is in the show

The whole shit about Martians training to conquer Earth is retarded. The only way you could invade Earth is if you first obtained space superiority, and after you do that, there's no point in invading because you can just drop shit on their head from orbit until they surrender.

Are Epstein drives used for ground to orbit launches from Earth?

>>80249402
Earth's nuclear missiles were ground launched I believe, they mentioned silos. Seems inefficient not to just have them in orbit but whatever.

>>80249282
I assumed the marines were training to be inserted onto Earth to out the Earth government in lightning-quick blitz operation to force them to sign a treaty before Earth's navy swarms the Mars navy and overwhelms it

>>80249402
Looks like it in that missile launch scene from a few episodes back. Gotta presume it's a pretty green option so far as drive exhaust and radiation is concerned if that's the case.

>>80239125
in the books there is also ship debris

>>80249282
bobby realises this the second she gets to earth

>>80249402
no

>>80249431
they're probably on the ground so they can be widely distributed in the event of an attack.

Don't todays nukes leave atmo temporarily?

Mars did nothing wrong.

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>>80249784
>mfw Mars gets cucked throughout the series until Earth gets cucked even harder

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>>80249529
You could distribute nukes in space pretty dispersed, but then again given how plentiful civilian ships are that might but be desirable. Certainly a ground based ICBM is a harder target, and I guess with their super drives it doesn't really matter.

>>80249960
"might not be

>>80242915
Not yet, but she's thinking about it. Belter bitches are slags, she and Naomi are basically in a foot race to see who betrays their Earther boss first.

>>80243892
There's a gravity threshold that decides that. Mars falls on the good side of it, Ganymede doesn't, which is frustrating because had it a decent gravity, Ganymede would be a superb prospect for long-term colonization as local chunks of rock go.

>>80248310
Whoever has da aqua will be on top.

>>80249497
I find it hard to imagine that it wouldn't fuck up Earth's atmosphere.

Slowpoke but man that episode was disappointing. What the fuck were they doing this entire episode? Makes me sad as I was really excited to sit down and enjoy some good tv, shame they didnt deliver.

>>80250317
Because the CO2 emissions of 30 billion proles isn't?

>>80250062
Can Naomi and Drummer just switch spots already? I feel like Holden could use Drummer's superior tactical skills on the ship and Naomi gets to fuck a fellow black person

>>80250322
You run out of Adderall or something, hero? You literally just watched Anderson Dawes steal the whole show from Fred Johnson and set himself up to steal the entire OPA.

>tfw want to watch this on my tv but it's not on netflix and I'm too lazy to stream the show from my computer onto my tv while I do my daily cardio

>tfw loved the first season but haven't even started the second season yet

Any other bros know this obscure feel?

>>80250369

You actually think Drummer's going to be that stupid? She basically rules Tycho behind the scenes, being Holden's cuddlepet on Roci would be several steps down the ladder. I mean, shit, the only reason Naomi's in that spot's because she's the only piece of pussy on the ship and Holden MUST do the Don Quixote thing and claim it as his own to prevent vagabonds and scoundrels from despoiling her despite her being exactly the wrong kind of person to be chivalrous about.

>>80250340
Literally no. What you exhale doesn't account for a significant fraction of humanity's CO2 emissions.

>>80250456
>people only exude CO2 through exhalations

Let's only hope barely a fraction of 30 BILLION people operate motor vehicles, use enviro control, etc etc.

>>80250373
>You run out of Adderall or something, hero?
Yeah fuck me for expecting that show to deliver the giant cliff hanger and time skip. Entitled much amirite? Go fuck yourself.

Instead we get tensions, tensions everywhere. Dawes even being there was retarded as why would Fred put forward a guy as a representative when he doesnt share his beliefs? Most powerful man in the system yesterday, today he cant even keep people on his boat. Fucking retarded. THe only reason people are 'fine' with it is because Dawes is a good character. Think about how retarded him getting all that off unopposed actually is.

Then we have the whole Martian BS. Seriously terrible television. Why hint that theres an proto-molecule monster there then not show what actually happened for 2 episodes? We as viewers know something weird happened, so why have this retarded run around? So we can have more ptsd angry marine scenes? Fucking yay.

>>80250439
Not if she betrays Fred and has to run from him

>>80250573

I think she'll make quite certain Fred dies during that piece of treachery so that she won't have to run anywhere, if those chips fall in the "betray Fred" direction. It's not like Fred's the only person who knows how to space someone.

I really dislike the depiction of the OPA as clownish Mad Max shit, I think it's over the top. Top brass is convening to discuss strategy and they do it in some storage closet and every 5 seconds some guy who looks like a sewer rat interjects with "WAA WOOTKA MARS MI BELTA LODA". It chips away at the realism, such an organization would implode immediately

>>80250546
I would say 'learn to read', but I'm not sure you're capable of that level of focus. We're sorry the show isn't paced for a JJ Abrams' Star Wars "instant self-gratification" junkie like you are.

drummer and naomi stay loyal

the OPA does have a major split, but it occurs much later in the books

naomi is former hardcore OPA, a literal mass murderer and a MILF

>>80250710
Holy fucking fanboi.

>>80250772
>MILF

That thing has a womb louse somewhere?

>>80250317
Why?

>>80250845
Yes and hes a terrorist faggot

>>80250669
>such an organization would implode immediately

it's exactly why the belt has been shit since forever, and the only person with actual leader qualities is an earther

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>>80250887
Way to pick your hookers, Holden. Literal Don Quixote-tier.

Do the books say the yield of each of those missiles?

>>80250511
It's the future. Peak oil came and went. There is fusion power. Humanity has no doubt learned a lot about terraformation from Mars's preliminary attempts and is seeding the ocean with iron and shit. CO2 shouldn't be a problem.

>>80243086

>talking shit about miller

get necked

>>80250868
It's literally project Orion. It's the detonation of hydrogen bombs in atmosphere on a scale never seen. H-bomb tests increased global radioactivity significantly. Doin all launches under the power of hydrogen bombs for a prolonged period of time would be much worse.

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OP Add this to your list of links btw: it's the Expanse weekly podcast:

https://twitter.com/expansecast

If the link doesn't work, search for ExpanseCast

>>80251243
Add their facebook group as well

>>80251177
No it fucking isn't. Their drives are powered by nuclear reactors, not nuclear bombs, There are some propulsion system where the propellant is radioactive, but plenty where it isn't and I assume their magic drive isn't.

>>80251243
>>80251271
>twitter
>facebook
Why not add fucking Reddit while you're at it?

>>80251364
What are you on about? Obviously they don't have a reddit you m&m

>>80251364
Not allowed to mention /r/theexpanse here as it triggers '4chan is the only site around!!!' anonholes.

>>80244663
Looked like she plumped up after she got injured. The previous stuff didn't look like that to me.

>>80237653
>also could they have gotten a bigger faggot to play Holden
From that hair, the gormless look on his face and all the comparisons everyone is making to GoT, I could swear they cast this fuccboi because he bears a passing resemblence to Jon Snu.

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>>80247858
(((epstein drive)))

>>80242699
he was just pointing out because the other guy also played Nick's voice in left 4 dead 2.

>>80251799
At least he stayed in shape. Haven't seen anyone apart from Sebastian Shaw from The Covenant since.

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>>80251137
Probably a space Jew

>>80237653
>>80251799
I thought so too initially but book Holden is a really wooden faggot as well. It's funny that few if any characters are fundamentally likable.

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>>80251803
A REAL HUMAN BEAN

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Anyone mind filling me in on this guy? I know he was a spy for the chain smoking lady and her Mao fellating nemesis. I tracked him up until about the Blue Falcon, where he apparently ringed up some thugs to shoot the shit out of Holden's crew.

So he gave Holden and co. the slip during the action, but I don't remember seeing him again between that point and when he shows up again begging for mercy only to be shot at and told to fuck off.

Did anything happen between those two points?

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>tfw no more adam jensen

>>80252015
No, that was basically it. And he wasn't working for who you think he was.

>>80228736
>>80233636
Who do you dumbasses think are going to be colonizing space? (Comparatively) wealthy white westerners? Or poorfag Africans and Asians with nothing to lose?

Just look at the history of colonialism, colonists are almost never the best and brightest, just the most desperate for a new life.

>>80252066

>No more cutlel

>>80252100
>And he wasn't working for who you think he was.
Who?

>>80250640
Eh, Fred dying would really shake up the plot connections to the books.

>>80243378
Because wealthy, comfortable, white westerners don't want to go live in shitty tin cans surrounded by vacuum. Only desperate people from the most shithole places would be up for that.

>>80252127
>>80252365

>Who do you dumbasses think are going to be colonizing space?

Robotic drones. Nigger labor has been obsolete for centuries. No one is going to ship retards to space for the sake of diversity.

>>80252365
Shitty cans come later, first there's a very precarious science experiment needing highly intelligent and competent people. If you want a sample of who gets to colonize Mars, look at the demographics of Google and Apple employees. Whites and Asians. It's just the authors injecting their belief that SURELY 200+ years into the future we'd have a "post-racial" society, or they're (smartly) just writing it that way to avoid having to justify it, but in reality there'd be no room for <100 IQ muds, not even as labor.

>>80252015
m8, he got assimilated into the protomolecule at the very end of S1.

>>80251983
Kind of like real people, eh?

>>80252404
>Robotic drones

are already easy enough for even niggers to operate.

>>80252127
Tell that to the fat cats that sailed across an ocean for land for plantations. The wealthy have always been close behind the initial push by the menials and the desperate, once it's been determined there's something worth investing time and money into. Some would do it just to dodge out of paying taxes on Earth.

>>80252543
>or they're (smartly) just writing it that way to avoid having to justify it, but in reality there'd be no room for <100 IQ muds, not even as labor.

Honestly, that's the only viable answer. If you read the books, you pretty much see that they had a really cool idea that they show in the first book. But the problem is, you can't sell that to hollyjew, because your two main characters are fucking white males. So they added Avasarala and Draper in the 2nd book. Then the fucking priest in book 3.

>>80252066
>>80252552
Has Elias Toufexis had any roles where he hasn't died?

>Thinking a race that has only been major influencers the last 500 years will always be on top

Some people don't understand sci-fi is in the future

>>80252543
>Shitty cans come later,
Shitty cans is when the show takes place. The population of the Belt is between 50-100 million.

>first there's a very precarious science experiment needing highly intelligent and competent people.
Again, the Expanse universe is clearly well past this point, have you been paying attention at all?

>If you want a sample of who gets to colonize Mars, look at the demographics of Google and Apple employees. Whites and Asians.
Literally the exact ethnic groups that are specified to have been the primary colonists of Mars.

>>80251280
Dude, do you understand how nuclear reactors work? The Epstein drive is just a really small and efficient fusion engine that detonates tiny pellets of fuel. Tiny hydrogen bombs.

>>80252127
Mars is supposed to be Indians, Asians, and a few Whities. You think niggers are going to give up a life on welfare on Earth to work their ass off for the betterment of society on Mars?

>>80252616
>Tell that to the fat cats that sailed across an ocean for land for plantations.
Very few actually did that, most fat cats in Western colonies were self-made.

>The wealthy have always been close behind the initial push by the menials and the desperate, once it's been determined there's something worth investing time and money into. Some would do it just to dodge out of paying taxes on Earth.
By definition, there aren't many super-wealthy people in any society. How the fuck would a handful of elites emigrating move the demographic needle? Also,
>implying a plurality of the world's billionaires won't be Asian within a few decades

>>80252543
>>80252650
Not sure if this is just two /pol/acks talking but inverse you guys are thinking of Luna. They're the rich guys exploiting everything for maximum gain, mostly asians and whites. These colonies came first as they didnt have the Epstein 'made-up bullshit' drive.

Mars was its own thing, a group of people dedicated to the terraforming project, because the chinese, indians and some texans were sick of living in such shitholes. So the left and started a colony. Acolony that only exists because of Epstein being a Martian and them trading the drive for their freedom.

And the Belters are the poor fucks that are getting exploited 24/7 by everyone else so why wouldnt they be minorities? They'er sent out there on shit pay in the worst conditions with only enough money to continue doing what they're doing.

>>80252818
>Mars is supposed to be Indians, Asians, and a few Whities.
Which is exactly who it has been so far. 2 (TWO!) black Martians, and they were both soldiers/meatshields for the actual scientists.

>>80252817
Never EVER EVER EVER post again. Describing a ICF fuel pellet as a "tiny hydrogen bomb" shows you have no fucking idea what you're talking. Furthermore it is a clear backtrack from your initial claim that they are using Orion style drives. And finally AS I ALREADY FUCKING SAID there are plenty of nuclear drives that do not have radioactive propellant and would be completely fine use in atmosphere.

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>>80237498
100% in agreement...This show has taken the books and cranked up the soap opera drama to 10

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>>80252903
>>80252817

Can we just all get along and agree drummer is the sexiest woman on the show right now.

>>80249402
they can thrust at dozens of G's. they definitely can leave Earth's gravity

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>>80253018
Maaaybeee?

>>80249469
Mars has a stronger Navy than Earth. Earth has 15 billion niggers on welfare to support. Mars is ultranationalist and doesn't tolerate dead weight in society.

>>80253018
>Cara Gee (born September 2, 1983) is a Canadian film, television and stage actress of Ojibwe descent.
Have to commend them for finding the weirdest mutts for the belter roles

>>80252727
Deus Ex?

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>>80253037
Speaking of which...if Belters feel pain discomfort on Earth from her gravity....how the fuck can they pilot Epstein drive under thrust? They should be in agonizing pain...meaning they can't fly ships, and they can't have a navy

>>80253095
Earth has them on numbers though, no guarantee Mars could defeat a zergrush.

Same dynamic that prevented WW3 in Europe. Same dynamic that keeps North Korea existing.

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>>80253139
>Ojibwe
You go about in fucking pity for yourself.

>>80253194
I meant live action roles. Because he's died so many times in live action he jokes on twitter about it being part of the contract.

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>>80253018
She's a mutt I'd give a bone to

>>80252650
Though looking at the pen name's Twitter account complaining about Trump at 50 tweets per hour this seems unlikely

>>80253248
normal accel for ships is 0.3G

same grav as mars/ceres

they might go above 0.3G for short bursts

>>80252965
This bothers me a lot. If you get past the retarded diversity quotas, I liked the books because it has small amounts of tension, and lots of action. In the show it's exactly the opposite, but with double the diversity.

>>80253683
Well diversity is a good thing mate...

>>80253597
mars is .4
ceres is .1

>>80253683
I love how racism crops up about a show depicting the evils of racism and social stratification

>>80233341
Bobbie + crew of rocinante have unbreakable plot armor. It's one of the things I hate most about the book series.

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>>80253869
what do you mean? I haven't heard that term plot armor before

>>80253869
>Reee why aren't these main characters dying?
Go back to the Walking Dead.

>>80252903
Yes, they are a lot like fusion bombs. Fusion reactors work by using lasers to heat pellets until they fuse. Fusion produces radioactive byproducts. I can't for the life of me understand either why you are disagreeing with the most basic principles of fusion energy generation and getting so worked up about it.

>>80253869
Dude, what/ There wouldn't be a story to tell if the characters and/or their situation weren't exceptional in some way.

>>80254023
You don't understand, if a main character doesn't die every 3 episodes, it's not Good TV.

>>80253018
I have the biggest crush on her.

Why wouldnt the Martians believe there was a monster on Ganymede? More pointless conflict between Angry Marine Women and her superiors? If they used a drug to retrieve her memories why instantly discount them? This was such a shit episode.

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>>80244042
Kitschy breeding stations in orbit set to spin for optimal early development.

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>>80254072
This is why I can't watch movie channel originals.

There at at least 9 books written or planned. You think Syfy wlll allow a show to go on that long?

Don't even bother getting invested.

Even when it was SciFi, the longest shows ever ran for was 4 seasons.

Hope you faggots enjoy reading.

>>80253981
Last post you get you worthless troll. No, a reactor is not at all a bomb just because they both involve fusion reactions. And FOR THE THIRD TIME you can easily have a setup that has no release of any radioactive material. I can't believe I wasted so many posts on such a worthless shitposter.

>>80254465
It has nothing to do with belief. They were going to use her as a scapegoat to avoid war no matter what her story was. If anything they could use the monster story justify that her story of not firing first is all part of the same delusion.

The bit Dawes said about the truth and how useful it sometimes is and isn't is actually pretty fitting for this episode. It's like they intended on an overarching theme to the episode as a whole.

>>80254545
>And FOR THE THIRD TIME you can easily have a setup that has no release of any radioactive material.
Calm down. You keep saying it but what the hell is the propellant if not fusion byproducts? The ships don't require vast quantities of xenon or some other propellant.

>>80254465
Because no one really knows what the protomolecule does. Only a couple people have seen space zombies, and they still don't really know wtf they are. How quick would you be to believe that someone who recently got their shit handed to them in a ziplock was done to by a naked glowing crystal corpse that mowed down 2 "elite" combat teams and let that one person live - with all the recorded data conveniently kaput?

>>80254491
Even if it does get canceled, I imagine it might be picked up by another network who gives a damn.

>>80254646
Keep dreaming faggot

>>80253798
it's actually not

>>80253857
>show about cold war between solar geopolitical entities
>m-muh raysism

>>80254558
They still didn't believe her. Rather they believe she saw something weird, but they weren't going to take her story at face value. That's a part of what causes her to lose faith in the Martian cause in addition to them just wanting her to help them spin it to fit their own agenda, as you said.

>>80254660
Why are you even mad about a show you don't watch?

>>80254558
>They were going to use her as a scapegoat to avoid war no matter what her story was.
But why? Literally why lie about firing on the UN giving them all the grounds to push back. They just got a moon blown out of the sky and instead of fighting back they lube up? Is it just so we sympathize more with Bobbie more? Its just poor story telling IMO.

>>80254636
>with all the recorded data conveniently kaput?
This also makes no sense.

But why wouldnt you believe the ONLY witness that could only remember after you gave her a memory drug?

>>80254729
To bring out the fear in you

>>80252127
I just hate the depiction of Mars citizens. The first one we've seen was pure and proud aryan and it should have stayed this way.

>>80254757
>makes no sense
The naked glowing crystal space zombie jammed all the recording electronics.
I wouldn't take that at face value because it's a fucked up story with nothing they can see to back it up.

>>80254786
get ready for niggers and gay niggers

>>80254786
Whitey is weak

So how does book discussion go here normally? I wanna chat about the end of Babylon which is recently reread.

So at the end of the book Avasarala points out that they'll need a 'spacers guild' to maintain control of the gates and shipping between the planets and suggests Belters do it. My question is why? Belters are the worst choice by far as they cant stand high G's, have shit infrastructure and no leadership what so ever. They are also constantly infighting and have shown no ability to work together at all, or with the other factions. How does any of this mean they're a good candidate for running the single most important hub for humanity?

The high G thing alone should be enough as having them unable to stand 1 G of thrust during flight is wasteful enough when talking about flight times.

>>80254835
>jammed all the recording electronics.
Then how did the drone work? Or the suits of Armour? Or the Guns? These were all electronic too. The radio fucking up is not a good reason for a video recording to stop working.

>>80254465
I think they do that to hide that they know about the ayy on Ganymede. They probably even have the recordings too, but the marine doesn't need to know that.

Or maybe they are just retarded. I mean, they have niggers commanding ships, you can't expect much thought from them.

>>80254757
Because they aren't lunatics and will do everything in their power to stay away from the brink.

>>80254928
In the book it's described as a part of the abilities of the creature, not just a passive ability, and it was autistic in its objectives. It didn't really care about getting royally fucked up so long as it could proceed to it's objective. Bobby managed to hinder it, so it disabled her. I think the creature was described as being more monstrous too though, not so human looking.

>>80254965
>but the marine doesn't need to know that.
That would be a way to explain it that I would be happy with. Well put Anon.

>>80255009
>will do everything in their power to stay away from the brink.
And they do this by saying
>So we totes shot up your guys, fucked you in space and ruined one of the most important asteroids in the Belt.
>Soz lol

All while knowing that that isnt true. K.

>>80255084
>In the book it's described as a part of the abilities of the creature
In the books the video recording works just fine.

>>80255154
Really? I thought they eventually got the data from the drone.

>>80255113
And? They were obviously negotiating with Earth and for their side of the bargain they offered to take the blame for a situation neither side had any definitive proof about who started.

>>80255180
No Bobbie wakes up tells her story, they dont believe her till she mentions her suit is an older version which is mentioned beforehand, they check it out then apologize. This is just the writers being incompetent.

>>80255182
>And?
And even if your idea was true that Martian would still want all the information they could get about what really happened just in case. They wouldnt lean on and ignore the person they're relying on and need to lie for them. Its makes no sense do they expect her to take it sitting down?

>>80255239
Well shit. What am I thinking about with the jamming, then? Didn't it screw with her armor somehow, and she still managed to get some good shots in?

Who was the marsbro who was the last survivor on the roci in s1 or whatever? Generic chicano name, Lopez, Mendez or something like that? He should have lived desu he was a top bro

>>80255321
>Didn't it screw with her armor somehow
No.

As the Martains for up to fire on the UN marines Bobbie notices the Monster and her and her team try to save the UN Marines. They all get rekt however. She remembers all of this and demands that they respect the UN soldiers and tell everyone the truth.

>>80255309
The Martian government knows jack shit about the proto-molecule and that captain even less so. If I were the captain I'd chalk her account up to PTSD and sedate her before the daughter of a friend of yours outs herself as a lunatic and ruins her military career.

There are any number of possible rationalizations of what happened in the show. There are parts of this show that don't make sense no matter how you try to rationalize it and this isn't one of them.

>>80255420
>If I were the captain I'd chalk her account up to PTSD
Well you're clearly an idiot so who cares what you'd do. The idea that they're going to be able to cover up and ignore the only survivor on the ground, and the one who called in and started the fight btw, is ludicrous. Especially when you're then going to prop her up infront of the Earthers to lie lmao. This Captains behavior makes no sense and I bet 'Nice Chaplain Man' will believe her and help her whilst 'Evil Authority Man' tries to stop her telling the truth.

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>>80255513
>you're wrong because y-you're an idiot
wew

Fine, imagine problems with the show so you can hate it. See if I care, nigga.

>>80255668
>so you can hate it.
I love it. By far my favorite show in ages. This episode was shit however and faggots like you who want to gloss over its flaws are as bad as the haters.

>>80255380
I just reread the encounter part. There was jamming. You're probably right about them digging deeper into the suit data, though. I don't remember that very well, but it does strike a chord.

>>80255715
>is given rationalization and therefore by definition is not a plot hole
>doesn't accept it because FUCK YOU UR AN IDIOT
There are so many possible explanations that I find it hard to believe you can't think up one unless you were trying to hate the episode.

Are you a bookfag? That might explain it.

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I suppose using the Epstein drive in Mars's atmosphere isn't a big deal. It's already a dry, irradiated shithole.

>>80236290
I love that face, it perfectly fits the "AYO HOL UP" meme.

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>>80255343
Lopez. Too based for this series.

>>80253831
ceres is spun up to 0.3

mars is 0.376

>>80254465
nobody knows about the protomeme or the ayys

Mars knows something fucky was going on phoebe, but they blew it up before getting any further into their investigation.

Earth knows protogen is somehow linked to the cant/donnager/eros but they don't actually know how they're connected


Only Fred, drummer, the OPA goons that assaulted the station,the Roci crew, Errinwright and Mao know the truth and they're not telling everyone about it.

In the books there is a year gap between RIP miller and ganymede and everyone knows about ayys and the protomeme by the time ganymede

>>80257705
How does everyone know about it? Do holden and crew reveal what happened or what?

>>80258354
its been a while since i read the first book but IIRC Fred announces it all

I wonder why Ganymede of all places is the outer planet breadbasket.

>>80258374
How does the public react? Does everyone go apeshit?

>>80258423
honestly the book doesn't really go into much detail about the public reaction. Book 1 ends after the announcement, and Book 2 starts 1 year after the announcement.

All we're told is that protogen got immediately #rekt by the UN, but mao and Errinwright are not implicated yet

Mars vaporises phoebe, as in actually vaporises it, no debris


My impression was that the public didn't really go nuts, i mean if you turned on the TV and it said ayyliens exist (but they're not actually here) you still need to go and wagecuck tomorrow.

>>80247858

He died and his wife got filthy rich from his design.

>>80252727
He did die. Mankind Divided's Adam Jensen is a clone

>>80254627
Not the other guy but your reading comprehension is shit.

The propellant are the fusion products and waste but they are NOT radioactive.

>>80227889
>we need that asian audience

>>80240916
Except GOT is utter trash after season 4.

>>80260394
Then that's just a misunderstanding on how fusion works on your and his part. It produces radioactive byproducts.

Miller:
>the protomolecule doesn't seem to effect the dead.
>protomolecule doesn't seem to attack me

So was Miller already dead from the start? ;_;

>>80262448
He was dead inside.

>>80262925
Don't dead
Open inside

>>80251988
Am I the only one that thought it was will wheaten for a moment.

>>80262448
He was too edgy. Only a katana fold 1000 in the heart of a neutron star could cut the protomolecule

>>80265538

Nah my teeth didn't start to grind automatically

>>80265538
No, that guy has a chin

>>80229736
underrated post for this thread

>>80227889
Fred should have seen Dawes' actions coming.

>>80257252
This.He was to perfect for this world.