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>>80104983
You're mistaken sir

GOAT tier doctor whos
> 1, 7, 9

SHIT tier doctor whos
> 12, War

>>80105268
War Dr Who was made out to be this fucking savage warrior, but in DotD he is some soft cock that used a gun to shoot writing (in English) at a wall.

>>80105043
Who is this elderly man?

>>80105423
He's like the cuddliest old man you ever met. Early Hartnell was a meaner bastard ffs

>>80105451
Sean Pertwee

>>80105463
That's what I'm saying. He didn't seem like a fucking warrior. The worst he did was hurl insults.

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>>80105043
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HE LOOKS LIKE HE COULD BE PAUL'S DAD!

I hope we actually get to see Capaldi's face morph into 13's face this time.

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Reminder to GET HYPE

>>80105268
GOAT tier
>1

GOOD tier
>2
>4
>6
>7
>8
>9
>12

MEH tier
>3
>War
>11

SHIT tier
>5
>10

>>80105567
>man with chips
>no Pigbin Josh

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>>80105582
>MEH tier
>>3
Excuse me?

>>80105633

Double 3s confirm.

>>80105567
update the wiki BTW

>>80105567
The hype train is coming along very nicely.

>>80105854
I was wondering if I should add something to do with the water, haven't got any good ideas yet though

>>80105268
>>80105582
Reminder that while 1 is definitely GOAT, none of the Doctors are shit except 6 and even he was redeemed by Big Finish.

Series 10 stuff, you're welcome:

> Next teaser will broadcast during Comic Relief (Friday 24th March). It'll be a short clip from episode one starring Capaldi and Lucas, with a brief shot of Mackie at the end

> Saturday 1st April will see the entire list of episode titles revealed (and there'll be a Twitter meltdown because it's April Fools and nobody's quite sure if they're real or not, mainly because a couple of titles are just plain weird).

> BBC idents (akin to the one below) will then start to air throughout April, leading up to the premiere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN1Vn_43eyk

>>80105926
6 didn't need redeeming, he was great on TV as he was. All Big Finish did was calm him down a bit.

>>80105919
Gatiss drowning in a puddle of Brian Hayles' tears?

>>80105031
Neither is the metacrisis Doctor. I'm looking forward to Kris Marshall's Doctor going on missions for the Time Lords again in exchange for a new regeneration cycle. The whole "13 lives" thing has real story potential and I hope it isn't squandered.

>>80106078
I doubt he'll be doing shit for the Time Lords after Hell Bent.

More likely we'll get Rogue Rassilon hunting down the Doctor for sweet Revenge of Rassilon

>>80106207
The best thing about Hell Bent is that we should be able to get multiple not necessarily evil (but sometimes evil) rogue Time Lords again instead of just the Master over and over.

I'm sure Drax found himself a nice safe job to ride out the Time War, until he managed to get in a bit of trouble with certain members of the castellan's squad, and now that they're out of their hot pocket he'll be finding himself a few odd jobs around the universe until the heat dies down.

But, better than that, now they can invent new ones and actually show them to us instead of just talking about them like the Corsair.

>>80105964
Bullshit. We'll have a proper trailer before 24th March.

>>80106472
They may release a re-cut version of "I'm Bill, I serve chips" but as for a different one, no.

>>80106468
>But, better than that, now they can invent new ones and actually show them to us instead of just talking about them like the Corsair.

Tbf, they could've done that pre-Hell Bent, and even at any point since 2005 if they'd really wanted to. Especially after they introduced the fobwatch.

>>80105423
>Another one
>What does it mean
>What's the mad fool talking about now

Clearly most of them had no clue what he was writing and only figured it out when other Time Lords who spoke English told them, or after someone used a translation matrix.

>>80106557
If the BBC don't release the official trailer this month then they should slap themselves because their marketing for series 10 has been horrific so far. People will forget the show is even coming out.

>>80106844
i imagine it'd take months to blast gallifreyan circle text into walls but it'd be hilarious if he did

>>80106557
Source? or GTFO!

>>80106937
Horrific? Nah. They gave us a specially-shot trailer, which is better than 2015 at least. The trailer and marketing will go into overdrive during April

>>80105558
I liked the 'shock value' of 11's sudden change to 12. Just seemed perfect at the time, and Clala's stunned reaction.

Will Moffat or Chibnall (or both) write 12's regeneration? Moffat the goodbye, Chibnall the hello to 13?

>>80106611
But using the fobwatch again would have been pretty cheap; now they don't need any extra plot device.

Similarly, while they certainly could have explained why a Time Lord either deliberately fled the War or somehow couldn't get back, now they don't need any such explanation.

For example, imagine someone like Rodan from Deadly Assassin, who was inspired by the Doctor and bored of being a Time Lady and considering going off to explore the universe and right the wrongs that the Time Lords ignored, but then the War happened, so she stayed behind to do her duty managing the transduction barriers, and now she's finally free.

Now take that same story and add an explanation for why she left her post on Gallifrey and hid out as a human, without changing her character. It's not impossible, but it's a lot harder, and it takes time and focus away from just introducing the character as someone interesting.

>>80106972
Moffat has said in an interview that he'll work/chat to Chibnall and find out where he wants him to 'park the TARDIS'. So I imagine, like End of Time, Moffat will write up til the moment 12 regenerates (his last lines plus "VFX: Regeneration") then let Chibnall take the last scene/s

>>80106966
People want to see FOOTAGE as in actual series footage. That is what gets the attention of the masses. The series starts literally two weeks into April, series 9 had great marketing via two very well edited cinematic trailers released months before series 9 aired.

Chibnall will bring back multiple Time Lords and invent a tone of new ones I guarantee it.

>>80107031
They'll get a clip during Comic Relief. Who knows, maybe they'll re-air a re-cut "I serve chips" trailer too along with it. Comic Relief will be seen by at least 6 or 7 million, so it's all good. Then they ramp up the marketing for 2 weeks.

>>80107063
Let's pray he doesn't bring back any. Focus on making new ones, invent new mythology and stuff rather than boringly bringing back Rodan or some shit.

>>80107031
>People want to see
S9, they give us edited-together actual footage, and fans complain that there's no specially-shot trailer like there was for S8.

S10, they give us a specially-shot trailer, and fans complain there's no actual footage.

Gosh, it's almost like different people want to see different things.

>>80107031
>series 9 had great marketing via two very well edited cinematic trailers released months before series 9 aired

Which tended to air on BBC1 in the UK at 10 and 11pm at night, and which ended with the Doctor saying "same old same old". The marketing for S9 was shit.

S10's already way better, with a much more accessible trailer plus the fun specially-recorded clip.

>>80107133
Proper footage filled trailers are always better than those cringe filled specially shot trailers.

>>80107187
I dunno. I'd say the 11th Doctor & Amy in the vortex one is a lot more memorable than the actual Series 5 Coming Soon trailer.

>>80107123
>Let's pray he doesn't bring back any.
Other than Romana or the Rani, and maybe Borusa, none of the classic-series Time Lords had enough details about them to constrain any stories they wanted to tell. It would make no difference to the story whether some young Time Lady inspired by the Doctor were named Rodan or Namla, except maybe for one line of dialogue in her first episode, so I honestly don't care either way. If calling her Rodan would make a few nerds squee, go for it. If it would make other fans groan, don't do it. Or just flip a coin. Whatever.

>>80107187
Yes, you obviously speak for all of The People, so the anon directly above you is not a person, nor is the one directly below you. There's no way it could be possible that different people have different opinions so appealing to you while ignoring everyone else might not be a good marketing strategy.

>>80107220
The Rani has potential, but only because of the amoral scientist angle. Even then, they could just break free from old shit and invent a new character with that angle, start over, and make it feel fresh.

I'm not bothered about Romana, Susan, the Monk, any of the old -- except maybe Rassilon, but even he was ruined in nuWho.

Omega and Rassilon are two I'd keep, but I'd ditch the rest and leave them to BF.

>>80107220
>Namla
By the way, my first two attempts at mashing random keys before this one turned out to be names with pages at the TARDIS Data Core. That's just a coincidence, and there really aren't that many names already used, right?

>>80107260
Girly letters go to bed.

>>80107289
Rani can fuck off, Monk played by Chris O'Dowd pls.

>>80107260
Come one mate. The series deserves a proper trailer as well as the specially shot one. Do you WANT the show to fail or are you just being contrarian?

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>>80105043
Sum up Twelve's era without the word JUST.

>>80107355
The Monk still baffles me, in the sense that we don't know his true name/moniker. He was only a Monk cos in his first story he was hiding out in a Monastery. And it just stuck ever since. I don't trust nuWho. They'd have Gatiss write an origins story for him, revealing his name and botching the concept behind him.

>>80107289
>The Rani has potential, but only because of the amoral scientist angle.
But the Rani is a shit character in her 2-1/2 appearances, and all the attempts to redeem her in novels and audios and comics failed, except maybe her cameo in that one Iris Wildthyme story. There's just too much baggage, so for her, I do actually care whether it's the Rani or a new amoral scientist character.

But again, other than Borusa and Romana—and the Monk, who I forgot because I'm stupid, so thanks—I don't think anyone else has that much baggage. (And for the latter two, it's mostly good baggage.)

>>80107389
Inconsistent.

>>80107425
>But the Rani is a shit character in her 2-1/2 appearances, and all the attempts to redeem her in novels and audios and comics failed, except maybe her cameo in that one Iris Wildthyme story. There's just too much baggage, so for her, I do actually care whether it's the Rani or a new amoral scientist character.

That's why I said:

>they could just break free from old shit and invent a new character with that angle, start over, and make it feel fresh.

>>80107405
>The Monk still baffles me, in the sense that we don't know his true name/moniker
He only appeared in 1-1/8 stories ever, so why should we have ever learned more about him.

Unless you follow the non-TV stories, in which case we actually do know his entire history, including even his real name.

Or you believe he's the first incarnation of the War Chief and/or the Master, in which case, again, we know a lot more.

>>80107459
I'm intrigued. What name have the spin-offs given him? I bet it'll be lame.

>>80107443
>they could just break free from old shit
Yes, I think we're agreeing on that. The only difference (if any) is that I think the Rani is kind of special among Classic Who Time Lords in not being just a name attached to a blank slate so it doesn't matter either way.

kris marshall to be the first irish dr who

and this'll be his theme tune in a bold move to ditch the old theme tune to keep the show trendy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL-WVjvzu34

>>80107529
I'm kinda surprised they haven't just amalgamated the character into Missy. Give her a fascination with amoral sciencey stuff and experiments, and bingo.

>>80107031
>series 9 had great marketing
"no"

>>80107501
>I'm intrigued. What name have the spin-offs given him?
Mortimus.

According to Gary Russell's novels, that's his real name. A couple of later novels imply that it may have just been his college nickname, like "Theta Sigma" for the Doctor, and we don't know his real name, but that doesn't make it much better.

Meanwhile, he was called The Monk before his first TV appearance, but they're not consistent on whether it was a nickname he tried to force for himself, or something the Doctor and the Master called him as an insulting nickname.

>I bet it'll be lame.
And you didn't even know Gary Russell was the one who named him, so bonus points. :)

>>80107535
kris' end credits theme tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFlZXlfda6Y

>>80107389
golden age

>>80107535
>kris marshall to be the first irish dr who
Yes, a west-country Englishman who grew up in Hong Kong and has no Irish ancestry will be the first Irish Doctor. I hope he can do a really good 1960s comedy Oirish accent and talk about leprechauns.

>>80107405
His name in the EU is Mortiumus, he was a friend of the Doctor and Master and went to the academy with them.

>>80107613
Mortimus the Monk. I can see why they went for it but eeeeesh. Mind you, Time Lord names are tricky. They either end up being stupidly lame ("Damon" in the 5th Doctor era) or hilariously wanky and naff sci-fi.

>tfw clala ruined 12's run from the get go
>12 was never redeemed and had inconsistent, poor stories
i feel bad for capaldi

>>80107647
Be a shame if they got an English actor do play the first Irish Doctor when there are loads of good Irish actors who could fill the roll.

>>80107593
>I'm kinda surprised they haven't just amalgamated the character into Missy.
It would kind of be a waste to make the OTT-batshit-crazy character and the amoral-scientist character the same person.

Not that I think the Master always has to be OTT-batshit-crazy, even if Gomez does it much better than Simm, but that doesn't mean he should turn into the Rani instead.

>>80107708
I mean, the Master does have dodgy morals and is also a scientist on the same level as the Doctor anyway!

Ello Chaps

>>80107699
Unless the goal is to piss of the Welsh ("Finally, the Doctor represents every UK nation… there's not one we're forgetting, is there? And in other news, Chibnall is moving production from Cardiff to Manchester") and the Irish at the same time…

>>80107759
Go to bed Russell.

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Post stories you'll never watch again.

Moffat, Capaldi, Gillan, Gomez... IT'S THE SCOTTISH AGENDA

>>80107743
Well, yeah, but then you might as well make every not-good Time Lord into the Master, like those fans who insist that the Monk and the War Chief must be his prior incarnations because they were bad guys.

>>80107788
Dubs confirm.

>>80107776
Literally all of Series 8 and 9 except for bits of Heaven Sent

>>80107793
Fair point

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>>80107686
Clala was the only redeeming feature.

>>80107793
Monk is just morally gray though. He's more of an anti-hero. Trying to do the right thing in his own view but messing up history like an ass.

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>>80107776

>>80107865
The Monk also seemed to just enjoy changing time for shits and giggles, and didn't give a shit about the consequences

Dubs confirm the Valeyard is the series 10 villain.

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>>80107910
That too. But his overall goal according to EU was the greater good.

>>80107788
>IT'S THE SCOTTISH AGENDA
You forgot Neve "Vastra" McIntosh.

But in truth, it goes back a lot further than 2010. David Tennant. Sylvester McCoy. Frazer Hines. And Sydney Newman? Everyone knows he's 3/4ths Jewish, but the quarter? Scottish.

>>80107829
Imagine if Clara had been played by an ugly actress. Would anyone have liked her?

>>80107928
Do you think they are a sexual couple?

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>>80107776
>>80107776

>>80107776
>inb4 colors anon

>>80107965
definitely not.

>>80107965
Most of the fandom hated Clara.

Hence ''the clala show''.

>>80107947
That's the kinda shit I hate. Everyone apparently needs a greater goal or motivation these days. Whereas in 1966, the Monk was created purely as someone who enjoyed fucking about in time, simple and fun.

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>>80107776
Unless someone does a new recon, this is probably the last one I'd ever rewatch.

>>80107995
delete this you'll summon him

>>80107776
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials

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>>80107947
>But his overall goal according to EU was the greater good.
In some of his stories, yes. But some of them had him as amoral, or too screwed up to realize he's being amoral, and others even as a bad guy out for revenge on the Doctor and the Master.

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>>80107776

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>>80107776
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>>80107995
Someone stream the episode. I need something to kill myself to.

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>>80107776
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>80108091
You could say the same thing about his TV appearances. In Meddling Monk, he's amoral and just screwing with history to see what happens; in Master Plan, he's immoral and motivated by revenge. Why shouldn't his novels, audios, and comics be just as inconsistent as his TV episodes?

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>>80108199
His TV appearances aren't inconsistent. They're a logical progression. He only suddenly wants revenge against the Doctor because of what happened in The Time Meddler

>>80107983
>>80108126
Tennant's box set highlights Russell's memorable, well-rounded characters. Smith's tries to distract you with some shitty villain FX.

>>80108241
But the point is, the idea that "he's amoral and only out for shits and giggles" is true for a grand total of one story, the first of his two.

The last prequel novel, where he's trying to do good but gets manipulated and foiled and decides fuck it, I don't care anymore, that's also a logical progression, not inconsistent characterisation. (It happens to be a crap story, but that's not why it's a crap story…)

>>80108341
>Tennant's box set highlights Russell's memorable, well-rounded characters. Smith's tries to distract you with some shitty villain FX.
Tennant was on a soap opera, and burned through a new companion every year. Smith was on Doctor Who, a show about aliens and monsters rather than council flat home life, and he kept Amy and Rory as long as most classic companions (and kept around River from the Tennant era instead of inventing a new one), so there aren't enough interchangeable girls to fill all the boxes.

>>80108472
kek

>>80107776
Definitely that one. Actually all of S9 I don't think I'll watch again.

>>80108472
Simpler: Look at Clara's arse. Look at Rose's. Which one is well round?

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If you watch the Husbands of River song Capaldi shows his subtle acting mastery. When he's gliding towards river when shes viewing the singing towers his facial expressions mimic tennants. It's almost sort of like the tenth doctor is showing through 12 as he knows whats about to happen to river by ''happen'' I mean 24 years. Capaldi subtly has done this numerous times throughout his run and many do not notice him echoing past incarnations.

>>80107928
I started watching that the other day and didn't even finish that first scene. Man S9 is so fucking poor.

>>80108472
Yet all better than any Moffat created.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f_wYmTl7Bo

>>80108592
Am skeptical but give more examples

>>80108592
Capaldi wasn't being a pretty boy or loving muh Rose, so why should Tennant fans notice him mimicking something more trivial like his acting, when it's not like that's what they were fans of.

>>80108663
>skipping

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BASED ROBERTS AT 4:45
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>>80108663
Everyone involved is completely phoning it in.

>>80107983
>>80108126
That overuse of the sonic screwdriver kills me

>>80108715
There are quite a few examples, especially 12 echoing classic docs, will collect them and post.

>>80108762
>"It's quite... difficult... to try and make a 'Doctor Who' story work in a school..."
>2 years later
"Hey you know what we could do a spin-off about?"

>>80108178
OHHHHH MY GOD, HOW EMBARRASSING

>>80108756
I saw it when it aired, prick

>>80108844
Gareth did such a bad job writing Class.
Glad he wont be coming back. What a shit show. that was.

type in disdain for plebs on google images

>>80108762
Jesus i'd never be an actor i'd be terrified to read a script in front of a room of people.

>>80109019
just ask for heaven sent. capaldi literally read to a room of... like 5 people probably, cos there were no other cast members

>>80108844
>"Hey you know what we could do a spin-off about?"
If by "do a spin-off" you mean "let that annoying Chaos Walking twat do a spin-off and lend him the Doctor Who brand the way we do Nick Briggs in exchange for getting a cut of it without having to do any work or take any blame if it sucks", I'd probably do it in their shoes.

>>80108975
I don't think Gareth wrote Class, anon.

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>>80108472
>well-rounded characters

>>80109128
i know but im just saying if he did write it he did a bad job is what im saying. he didn't even try.

>>80109019
But you wouldn't mind being on TV in front of millions whilst being judged?

>>80109179
I'm a different anon and I don't get what the joke is.

>>80109014
Then do a reverse Image search for that image:
>Best guess for this image: xl recordings logo

Is Peter working with Prodigy, or Basement Jaxx, after he retires from Who?

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>>80109407
Wow, that wasn't a joke, it really does come up with that.

Also, look at the visually similar images. Dreamboys reunion feat. Basement Jaxx confirmed.

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>>80109407
>laid down some backing vocals

I hope Chibnall pisses all over the Moffat era with the same disrespect Moffat has shown everything that preceded him. Turn River into a Cybermen and have Amy's Crack swallow Clara so that she was never born.

Is Nardole the most based Doctor Who character we've seen?

>>80110158
>have Amy's Crack swallow Clara
Like this?
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5714f37ca5eb6

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An anagram of "Nardole" is "Near Old"
Even more proof of Nardole being The Watcher

Why Earth wasn't affected by the Time War?

>>80111187
The Time Lords protected Earth with a time lock, there's a War Doctor audio where he has to go to Cold War Berlin to stop a Dalek plot to break in.

>>80110763
This is worse than the 12th doctor/valeyard meme

>>80110763
that is such a awkward photo

>>80111187
>>80111320
This. Also in the Gelf said that the time war was "Invisible to smaller species but devastating to higher forms." So essentially humans are a basic bitch species not important enough to be affected.

What are you listening to, /who/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTTsY-oz6Go

>>80113708
Not the Series 9 soundtrack.

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Reminder that Cybermen are the best villain.

>>80113807
Hate this emme desu.

1. Rose (feels like a real person)
2. Martha (smart, nice fat arse)
3. Donna (s'alright but overly-comedic)
4. Amy (Karen "Can't act" Gillan)
5. Clara (ruined Doctor Who)

>>80114692
>Amy

One of the scenes I remember most from Who is Amy's "Then what good are you?" to the Eleventh Doctor after Rory dies, during the Dream Lord ep.

Speaking of which:

>Whatever happenned to the Dream Lord audio anon?

>>80114692
Rory made Amy bearable and even he had so little in the way of personality.

Moffat writes fairy tales. He cares so little for detail, substance, or for the corporeal facets of storytelling. It's just a different approach, really. But not one that I prefer most days.

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Remember her?

Is it true that Doctor Who actors charge £50 for autographs and photos at conventions? Who's the greediest?

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This is you

>>80116374
This is why I hate the fandom.

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>>80113807
What are Cybermen's motives?

>>80116574
To save their and the rest of the world pain

>>80116592
from pain*

>>80113807
Whoever put this together… have they ever actually watched an episode of Doctor Who?

Cybermen: So wanting to kill all humans and take their resources because they ran out is hard to find fault with and arguably better than the Doctor?

Ice Warriors: Their planet is dying, so they decide to kill everyone on Earth and terraform the planet into a new Mars. Just like the Zygons or the Silents, but more genocidey.

Silents: What misdeeds done to them by humanity are they retaliating against? They've conquered Earth because they need Earth tech to advance faster so they can use it for selfish reasons.

Davros: So "obeying your nature" as an evil genius is better than being just evil?

The Master actually does kind of fit his description, alone among all of them, but that just shows how stupid this scheme is.

Zygons: In an even worse situation than the Ice Warriors, and their solution is basically the same as the Silents' but less extreme. And that's "just evil"?

>>80116574
Different in each story, but here are some examples:

* They've run out of resources, so they want to kill humanity and steal theirs.

* Jealous of humanity and want to destroy them.

* Lost the ability to reproduce and want to forcibly turn others into their progeny.

* Chased a planet made of gold halfway across the galaxy to destroy it because they were afraid someone might use it as a threat to their galactic domination.

>>80116954
Or you could go back to the core story that Kit Pedler was always trying to tell: Obsession with progress leads to dehumanization and therefore to evil. They're a warning that we're exactly like the Mondasians, we just haven't gone as far as them yet.

>>80117068
This guy gets it.

>>80116301
Matt Smith does.Capaldi seems to do it all for free.

I'd love to see Mondas/spare parts properly adapted for Capaldi. Hopefully it's the finale. Mondas is supposed to look like 1950's Earth with High tech, so basically Fallout.

>>80116301
When I was at a con that Tennant was at, he charged $50 for autographs at the table, but he gave out free autographs to people who happened to run into him outside the con and approached him politely. I think the $50 thing is as much about making sure the line doesn't run around the entire convention center as about being greedy, but then I haven't asked any niche-famous stars or their publicists, so I could be wrong.

>>80118015
>Mondas is supposed to look like 1950's Earth with High tech, so basically Fallout.
But British Fallout, which could be even more entertaining.

>>80117812
>>80117068
That's an interesting angle. Progress without empathy is almost as bad as empathy.

>>80119482
One of the things that inspired him was seeing Castro brag about Cuba's GNP growth outpacing all of the capitalist nations, and his reaction was: Why is Castro talking about GNP? I thought his revolution was supposed to be about freeing the workers, not about using them more efficiently?

Which is basically the same thing that inspired the Greens to go in a similar direction a decade later, but I don't think he ever identified with them.

>>80120114
That's opens up more avenues for Cybermen stories, even in this modernized world. Even though we might be much less afraid of technology now, we still have to grapple with the ethics of it today, and have just as much trouble as before. Even if we were in a fully transhumanist world, that makes Cybermen stories still relevant.

>>80120443
I like the transhuman Cybermen idea.

But what about something in between, a world a little more advanced than ours that's on the cusp of transhumanism? (Although I guess that's really no different than what Pedler and Davis wanted to do, but in the 60s nobody had thought much about transhumanism yet, and cyborgs really wasn't a bad guess.)

>>80118679
I can confirm that I was at a convention where John Lesson was offering either free or very cheap autographs for all attendees and the line was absolutely gigantic, much bigger than anybody elses

Colin Baker's autographs cost $50 a piece. The same as Jenna Coleman and John Barrowman's.

Will Nardole have some funky alien species name like trakenite or kaled, say, delloran?

>>80122468
They're THICK though
You can almost read the fatness

>>80118679
I once saw Walter Koenig get in trouble at a Star Trek convention for doing the same thing you saw Tennant do.

Apparently, some fan complained that he had to pay $20 for an autograph so it's not fair that other people got them for free. Walter told them they should have just explained that $20 gets you a 100% chance of an autograph even if you're an asshole, while $0 gets you a 1% chance of an autograph only if you're not an asshole and get lucky, and they should have explained this to the asshole. He also told them that anyone who thinks his $20 should mean someone else doesn't get an autograph doesn't understand Star Trek and probably shouldn't be at their convention. Thy apologized to him, but then told him not to sign any more autographs in the parking lot or within sight of the convention center.

In other words, Doctor Who fandom isn't always the worst fandom in the world.

Is capaldi regenerating in season 10 or Christmas?

>>80122470
I know Matt Lucas says he's non-human, but Moffat described him as "River's nice but dim human servant".

Are they retconning him to non-human or did Lucas just assume that anyone who looks like himself can't plausibly be human?

>>80122874
Christmas 2017

>>80122882
I don't think his intended species was said in his first appearance, so they've just since decided he's not human

>>80122944
>I don't think his intended species was said in his first appearance
Yeah, I think it's only in Moffat's off-camera statements about him coming back for the second Christmas special that he's called human, not anywhere on-camera, so they can definitely get away with it. (And even if they said it in-universe, it's not like they couldn't write around a minor retcon.)

But have they actually decided to make him non-human? The only thing I've seen is that one quote where Lucas says he's excited to play the first non-human companion on the new series, and that's almost the exact same thing Kylie Minogue and Alex Kingston said before him.

>>80123064
The BBC Doctor Who site lists him as
>Species: Human. More or less.

Real helpful.

>>80123064
>>80123167
I don't think they can make a huge shout about him being the first non-human regular, mainly cos he acts and talks and looks human. It's hardly anything new or weird or wonderful. Unless Series 10 really shows him as alien with a different culture and habits, he may as well just be human.

>>80108762
Wow, this really is a rare Gareth appearance.
Nice find!

>>80123064
He's non-human apparently. inb4 12 finds a pocket watch in his duffle coat in episode 11.

>>80123334
>He's non-human apparently. inb4 12 finds a pocket watch in his duffle coat in episode 11.
i could actually see this happening

he's the meddling monk in disguise

becomes the villain in the finale

>>80123212
Good point.

But maybe they could be thinking of shouting about it to fannish audiences but barely mentioning it at all in the mainstream press or on-camera?

After all, it's not like Turlough (who Matt Lucas mentioned) acted, talked, or looked that alien. He only mentioned being alien occasionally, and was treated more like a regular-guy companion than most of the past or future human companions ever were, except in his last episode. And similar for Nyssa and Adric, too. A lot of casual viewers in the 80s didn't even know any of them were aliens.

>>80123334
>He's non-human apparently.
"Apparently" based on what?

The same Matt Lucas quote, or have you seen anything else?

>>80123357
>he's the meddling monk in disguise
Nah, he's the Rani.

Source: Everyone is the Rani.

>>80123357
Didn't Moffat say Nardole was "the key to all this", or something?

He might end up being a villain. But I definitely think he'll play a part in 12's regeneration. He might be the Wilfred Mott of the Capaldi era.

>introduced as obscure character in a Christmas special
>returns in a later Christmas special
>becomes the companion
>is the cause of the Doctor's death

>>80123422
yup

12 trips over one of nardole's toy cars

regenerates

>>80123422
>He might be the Wilfred Mott of the Capaldi era.
Except we didn't get 12 episodes of solid Wilf companioning between the two Christmas specials. (Everything RTD did wrong…)

Whenever I feel sad about the world, all I have to do is remember Davros just had his eyes shut all them years and I piss myself laughing.

>>80123726
Not canon. He has no eyes

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Series 10 isn't going to be complete sh--

>>80123931
Stones of Blood sequel?

>>80105043
Jesus Christ is he dying? I hope not.

>>80123931
Where is Nardole's hand?

>>80123966
He shaved his head so he could grow his 'natural hair colour' out. He's a natural blonde apparently.

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>>80123931
>tfw you know you're gonna be a hero for a whole new generation
He's a coming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy7qmb7KeU4

>ywn virtue signal all over her face while she rants about Moffat

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>>80124467
>Where the Islamophobia in this country is so bad

Full trailer on Saturday

Episode 1 villains are called The Drowned

Bill is a lesbian and she dies at the end of the series

Kris Marshall is the new Doctor

>>80124746
I love this fake spoilers meme. Keep going. Is Nardole the villain

>>80124896
The villain is Bill's arse

>>80124746
>Bill is a lesbian and she dies at the end of the series
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Moffat killed off the first lesbian companion and 2nd black companion after a single season, so this sounds plausible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkCm91u1P-I

GOAT
O
A
T

>>80124746
"dies" in what sense?

>>80125553
erased from doctor who

>>80124287
>natural blonde

grey is the new blonde

>>80125553
No viewers left by the finale.

So will Kris Marshall be the next Doctor?

>>80127947
yes

>>80127985
k

>Eaters of Light
>Destroying light bulbs in the trailer

What did he mean by this?

End of Time is objectively shit in terms of an actual story.

But if we remember that it's christmas, that people cared about Who back then, that Ten was like a national hero, it was GOAT.
Bringing back Master, Wilf, All the companions, young Rose.

And Vale Decem regeneration is just perfect for the RTD era.
It may not make any sense, but it's deeply emotional and touching, RTD did a great job hyping it up.
It felt like a moment in history when it was broadcast.

>>80128375
Now you mention it, I don't even remember what the story was for the End of Time.

>>80128420
Time Lords ending time itself or something like that

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The Doctor: It's the end, but the moment has been prepared for.

Bill: So he was The Doctor all the time!

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Woah, the rumours were true!

Is the little girl in Dragonfire just there to please the paedophiles in the audience?. What was the point of her?

Oh it's a comin'. Full length trailer this Saturday.

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/838781123413098497

>>80123931
looks fucking comfy
based nardole

>>80128675
Matt Lucas is 43.
If you dont believe, just check it.
This fucker is fucking forty three.

>>80129040
he drinks the same blood as keanu

>>80129084
>>80129040
He looks 50?

>>80129157
He looks like 25 but with cancer

>>80129222
I think Matt Lucas has never had hair. I believe he has some type of condition which means he cannot grow any either.

>>80125535
0:36 are we sure he's not the watcher?

>>80129024
>comfy

If there is an episode in which the Doctor, Bill and Nardole sit around a roaring fire in pyjamas and slippers and chat and drink cocoa for 45 minutes would that be a good episode because it's "comfy" (*cringe*)?

>>80128375
Back then, Doctor Who was more noticeably promoted in the UK. Billboards, TV appearances of all the cast, regular trailers etc etc.

The new UK Tory/LD alliance govt of 2010 limited the BBC's freedom to promote, for various reasons, but the main reason was that they believed a public service provider shouldn't be allowed to actively encourage viewers to watch their TV shows. This takes viewers, and hence advertising revenue, away from independent TV channels.

>>80129329
Yes. Go back to GB.

>>80129331
So that's why Doctor Who is dead?

>>80129329
Only if it was written by Gareth Roberts.

>>80129331
Independent TV Channels just produce shit like the X Factor

>>80129331
Oops another note: the Beeb can promote more freely abroad, but not within the UK.

Would you spend 4.5 billion years punching a wall to be with your loved one, /who/? Having to confess and dying over and over again and breaking your fists. Would you, out of love?

>>80129040
wtf he was 29 when Little Britain started?

>>80129410

I would have for my ex when we were in love, yeah.

>>80129410
No one would no matter what they say. Everyone has a physical and psychological breaking point.

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>>80129410
who wouldn't for Clala

Pitch an interesting Cyberman story /who/

>>80129534
Mondasian cybership have fallen in Japan, 1640

>>80129374
If by 'dead', you mean 'is Doctor Who still one of the BBC's most watched dramas in the UK, and BBC Worldwide's top moneymaker?' then yes.

Come on lads, the show ain't dead, not yet anyway. Depends on how popular Chinball's era will be.

My prediction: all the Moff bashers will be enthusiastically singing Chinball's praises for a awhile on social media, and viewing figures will increase because of this (in the UK). Never underestimate the power of social media.

>>80129534
The Doctor has to decide whether to let a whole colony of people die horribly or be converted.

>>80129534
A preserved cyber-controller in a museum wakes up

>>80129629
Should add that the conversion would be quick and painless and a Cyber-controller tries to convince the Doctor through logic (mirroring the Doctor's philosophical discussions with Davros).

>>80129560
>>80129629
>>80129647
Congrats, you've written a better Cyberman story than the show has come up with for the last decade

>>80129402
That shit is popular (confess I occasionally watch it when drunk), and brings in advertising revenue.

>>80129410
Would I do it for my children? Fuck yes. Not sure about Mr Anonymous though........

>>80129534
I just want a story that shows the conversion process graphically and slowly. Think those scenes in Attack of the Cybermen with Lytton being changed.

Modern day Cybermen are just funny walking robots. Make them more human Chibby.

>>80129463
Aww, that's so sweet.

He/she didn't deserve you. Find someone else who does.

>>80129485
Never underestimate the power of love. It's a force of nature.

>>80129967
love doesn't exist it's all just chemicals

Reminder they were in love

https://youtu.be/p5eHJmQg-_M

>>80129967

:) Thanks anon!

>>80130126

It can "just" be chemicals, and still exist. Does music "not exist" because it's just a bunch of sounds?

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>>80130126
who /depressed/ here whobros?

>>80130197
Nothing exists it's possible that even consciousness is false and we are all living on a 2D plain in a holographical universe.

>Bill, you're going to want to hug me, but please don't. I've found a way to get out and save everyone.

Based Mathieson

>>80130229

So? Perception of reality = reality. "Objective" truths matter little to subjective beings like us.

>>80130145
He was in love with others, who gives a snuff? Go back to FF.net

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>>80130201
yes

>>80129278
DIH?

>>80130373
but then what is the point in life

MONDASIAN CYBERMEN ARE BACK

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/838803941458608128

>>80130471
OH FUCK ITS REAL

>>80130236
Where's this from? This would be a hilarious line

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>>80130471

>>80130471
NO FUCKING WAY HOLY SHIT YES YES YES WHO HASN'T MADE ME THIS HAPPY IN SO LONG

GOLDEN AGE

>>80130471
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

SERIES 10 CONFIRMED GOAT
FUCK
YES

im so fucking happy right now

>>80130430

Make up your own! :) It'll be just as legitimate as any other.

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>>80130409

BASED MOFFAT
A
S
E
D

CHIBNALL BTFO

"The Mondasian Cybermen - Peter Capaldi’s long-time favourite foe - will return in episodes 11 and 12 of the series, alongside Capaldi as the Doctor, Pearl Mackie as Bill Potts, Matt Lucas as Nardole and Michelle Gomez as Missy."

Missy also confirmed for finale

BASED MOFFAT REDEEMED!

>>80130471
holy fuck they look great

SERIES 10 GOAT

>>80130471

I FORGIVE THE BEEBS EVERYTHING

NEW GOLDEN AGE HAS LANDED

CAPALDI REGENERATION CONFIRMED TO PLAY OFF HARTNELLS

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!

SERIES 8 BTFO

Missy will try to form an alliance with them but they kill her instead, and she regenerates.

SCREENSHOT THIS.

GOAT.

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Seriously? I appreciate the sentiment but you gotta admit they're some pretty naff recreations.

FUCK yes. This is actual hype now

>peter finally convinced moffat to get rid of the shitty new ones
based

>>80130772
NO THEY LOOK GREAT

The Mondasian Cybermen - Peter Capaldi’s long-time favourite foe - will return in episodes 11 and 12 of the series, alongside Capaldi as the Doctor, Pearl Mackie as Bill Potts, Matt Lucas as Nardole and Michelle Gomez as Missy. The episodes, written by Steven Moffat and directed by Rachel Talalay, are now filming in Cardiff.

>>80130835
>Talalay
KINO CONFIRMED

>>80130772

They're legit eerie, scary, offputting - way better than bland "durr, deleeete, im a robot" Cybermen.

Oh I bet Nicholas Briggs is having fun with this lot.
He's been waiting for this for years.

i'll take care of the thread when its time

>>80130865
They'll be in an audio before Christmas

>yfw bill is turned into a cybermen and that's what kills her

>>80130471
>>80130526
GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT NEW GOLDEN AGE UPDATE HYPE TRAIN

>>80130894
use the new promo photo

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>see /who/ talking about Mondas cybermen in series 10
>oh boy, this bait again
>huh, there are a lot of posts that seem to be treating it as a certainty
>scroll up
>see>>80130471
>mfw

PULL DOWN YOUR PANTS MOFFAT
LET ME LICK YOUR ASS

>>80130925
>The Cybermen have killed more companions than the Daleks
Amazing. I want this to happen now

>>80130963
yeah will do
will post once we get to 310

series 8 finale btfo

Series 10 is going to be so fucking good, isn't it lads?

>based nardole
>bill serving chips
>based capaldi
>new GOAT monsters
>solid writers
>original cybermen
>ice warriors

>>80131033
>comfy like series 4 and 5
>all the episodes sound pretty good

GET HYPE BOIS

>>80130925
"I havent misjudged someone quite as badly as I did Bill"

>>80131097
>>80131097
>>80131097

>>80131097
>>80131097
>>80131097

NEW THREAD

Today is a good day.

>>80130925
I think Pearl Mackie described Bill as having a big heart. If they make a point of her being really enamored with the universe then it sounds like good set up for a heartbreaking Cyber conversion. I don't think it'll happen though - I think Moffat would find that way too cynical for Doctor Who, unless she turned out to be basically CyberBrig.

>>80129534
A manipulative, Scientology-like cult masquerading as a mental health clinic conditions its clients into accepting and desiring conversion.

>>80129750
>RTD Cybermen
>not complete garbage like all of season 2 except for Satan Pit

>>80131607
>cheap Planet of Evil rip-off
>not complete shit like all of Series 2