How do movies cost so much? Like how did Spiderman 2 cost $200

>Where does all the money go?

inb4 money laundering. About half of it goes to special effects because now that's all that keeps us entertained.

they don't movies are money laundering scams

Advertising, special effects, and actors who ask millions.

A big chunk of it actually goes to salaries. You have to remember that these big movies require shit ton of staff to get shit done.

Why does it 'cost x-amount to render a frame of cgi'? Don't they have the software/hardware they need to make cgi characters already bought? Do the animators just demand a certain amount for how much they animate? I don't get it.

>>80056876
No it doesn't.
They really use it to laundry money

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>>80056824
what is cartel money laundering?

>>80056946

This. Even with stuff like visual effects it's still a lot of salaries. A movie can have 40-100 animators and such working full-time to get a movie made on time.

Just look at all those names in the credits and think about paying them.

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>>80057022
>cartel

A lot of is inflated costs to reduce income tax. Money laundering is not a meme, it's done by even the smallest of businesses so what makes you think studios who hire the best of accounts wouldn't do it either with millions of dollars at stake?

>>80056876
HAHA

no it doesnt, it is money laundering you filthy shy.

vfx companies routinely close up shop cause the jews fuck them over and pocket all the money.

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Is this the most successful film, proportionally speaking, ever made? Budget of 7 grand, grossed over 2 million at the box office.

>>80056915
marketing is not included in movie budget usually

>>80056996
That's an abstraction based upon the man hours necessary to create and animate everything in a CGI shot then setting those man hours to a value then dividing those man hours by the duration of the CGI.

The more CGI you commission, the less it will cost per second because of the ability to reuse assets.

>>80057864
Paranormal Activity cost like $15K to make and made about $190M if I recall

>>80057864
considering taxes ate at least 80% of that 2 million profit, probably not.

>>80057864
not really, there's some:
http://www.hypable.com/10-block-buster-movies-with-tiny-budgets/

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>>80057864
this here

248 million box office, budget was 60k

>>80057708

Not that there isn't some creative accounting, but tax returns actually tend to get more honest the more money is involved. It's a lot easier for Joe Blow making annual revenue of $800,000 running his coffee stand to trick the IRS than it is for a multi-billion dollar business. The deception and creative accounting is usually working at the ends of definitions to maximize write-offs and save money, like factoring in cleaning supplies and the studio janitors' salaries to make expenses higher so you pay less money to people due a percentage of the profits.

If you made $28,000, you can pretty much tell the IRS anything you want and they'll never notice. If you made $28 billion, they're going to tear your tax return apart and you'll be going back and forth with them for years. It's small(ish) businesses that deal with a lot of cash that launder lots of money. Like strip clubs and casinos.

>>80057864
Primer wasn't too bad 7K->400K

>>80058305
>larger businesses have more expenses to exaggerate than smaller businesses therefore larger businesses are more honest on taxes

are you fucking stupid

>>80058937

What I said was true. Large businesses can't lie on their tax returns the same way that small businesses can. That's why people complain about "loopholes" and say that people are "exploiting tax law." If you file your tax return, the IRS audits the shit out of you, and they end up accepting what you've done because you haven't done anything wrong, then you submitted an honest return that took advantage of the laws.

How do you think that Warner Brothers is laundering money? Why would Warner Brothers have loads of cash earned illegitimately that they needed to launder? Are you fucking stupid?

>>80057864
Budget or not, Robert Rodriguez put his life into this movie. He literally tested experimental drugs for a pharmaceutical company to get the little cash he needed to make this.

>>80059072
negro you specifically talked about how they can lie more than smaller businesses because they have more to lie about in the same breath as saying they can't lie as much.

So, again I ask, are you fucking stupid.

>>80056824
For Spiderman 2 the train scene was insanely expensive, I've heard reports put it at nearly half the budget.

>>80059189
and then it was remade into desperado and it was fucking shit

>>80056824

Huge salaries to stars, directors and top level producers. Huge staffs for actual shoots with normal middle class salaries: set builders, make up people, camera crews and so on. Lots of hotel rooms and meals. Rented trucks, lights, cranes and shieet. Add visual effects and other post production with associated staff salaries. Not to forget lawyers, lots of 'em. That is easily the 100 to 200 million.

That isn't all. Usually they spent another 100 to 200 million on marketing and distribution.

Hollywood has killed medium budget productions effectively in last 15 years. They seem to think there is better return of investment in huge budget established franchise blockbusters at the moment, as those are most reliable to bank 'em profit.

>>80056996
>Why does it 'cost x-amount to render a frame of cgi'?

It is about how much working hours is needed for a shot or scene. There isn't fixed price for a frame. Sure hardware, software and rendering time cost as well, but it is mostly about salaries. Effects companies also have admin expenses.

Wages and not just for the actors.

>>80059220

No, I specifically talked about how they can work "at the end of definitions" and survive audits. The end of a definition is inside the definition. Large businesses do not lie on tax returns. Large tax returns have so much attention paid to them that it is impossible to lie. You can not trick the IRS when they're paying attention close to you. Large businesses to not trick the IRS. Large businesses do not lie to the IRS.

Small businesses get much less attention from the IRS, and do more dealings in cash. Producing a movie doesn't use cash nearly as much as a strip club or casino, the two businesses most often used for money laundering. Small businesses are audited less frequently and have less strict rules about accounting. Small businesses are able to lie, by telling the IRS things that aren't true, to the IRS.

The guy working the drive through at McDonald's probably lies on his tax return. Donald Trump does not. He gets audited every year, and auditing challenges every deduction and claim.

Wages
Everyone from the lead actor to lead grip
Location fees like NYC shooting
Studio pays for remote location travel, hotels, food. And no one flies coach.
Building the set. Props. Makeup. Advertising. It probably adds up.

>>80057864
'Deep Throat' is what you are looking for.