what did he mean by this?

>>80046479
Ironically Rick Berman is trek's Trump, complete with pussy grabbing.

>>80046479
FUCK YOU RICK BERMAN

and dropped

remember that episode where they encountered a planet where women ruled and they treated men literally like slaves?
remember that episode where they just stood by doing nothing as an entire civilization died?

How brave. Very thought provoking.

*yawns and parps*

Anyone who has ever watched Trek already knows this.

>>80046620
remember that episode were they poisoned the atmosphere of an entire planet?

>>80046479
Star Trek is how the world would be today is Germany won WW2.

>>80046479
Thank god for analogies like this, otherwise I wouldn't know who the good guys and the bad guys are in real life.

Donald Trump hates rape gangs?!

The prime directive was very nationalistic

>>80046479
This is the shit bag who ruined Star Trek

BERGman never understood Star Trek

>>80046620
>remember that episode where they just stood by doing nothing as an entire civilization died?
they were right

>>80046479

He meant he's slowly losing his grip on reality if he's using fucking Star Trek in political commentary

Donald Trump is against shitty action movies reboots?

>>80046479
It means Star Trek is about sheltered, delusional human core worlds that hold the rest of the Federation by the balls through diplomacy and bureaucratic entanglement while being completely oblivious to the realities of the frontier, while at the same time quietly tolerating half-rogue military personnel, black ops and unrestricted transhuman research programs because hypocrisy and superior military technology are convenient for keeping ayylmaos in check.

>>80046647
>remember that episode were they poisoned the atmosphere of an entire planet?

CO2 is a natural component of the atmosphere.

>>80046479
>Harry Potter hates Trump
>Star Trek hates Trump
WHOAH, WHICH FICTIONAL CHARACTERS WILL COME OUT IN OPPOSITION NEXT

>>80046479
He is right. The Federation stood to help others even if they didn't gain anything from it and to not abuse their powers to gain special treatment and was openly going around to meet and greet new species.

The people that voted for Trump instead want isolationism, and putting their interests above all. Trump himself suggested killing the relatives of terrorists just because they were related to them, which is something the Federation would never do or kill them and steal their oil something TOS Federation would never do.

I haven't seen the other Trek yet so maybe they changed it in the future.

someone should do a Star Trek parody where the crew is constantly on the verge of a race war.

>>80046793
>The Federation stood to help others even if they didn't gain anything from it and to not abuse their powers to gain special treatment
and it's what caused the federation to crumble

>>80046793
>He is right. The Federation stood to help others even if they didn't gain anything from it and to not abuse their powers to gain special treatment and was openly going around to meet and greet new species.

Basically wasting taxpayer money.

>>80046793
>Trump himself suggested killing the relatives of terrorists just because they were related to them,

[citation needed]

>>80046806
In their future ever war is race war.

>>80046582

YOU RUIN THIS TOO?

WHAT IS IT WITH RICKS?

>>80046793
Sci-fi socialism always looks great on paper and in movies, but it doesn't work quite as smoothly in real life. The whole terrorist family thing is typical fake news where they lied to you by omission and you were too stupid to look up the actual quote.

>>80046895
nah, I just didn't care enough

>>80046806
ds9 is all about a race wars

>ITT: Trump kids unironically think Star Trek isn't diametrically opposed to everything that Donald Trump stands for
Either you haven't watched it, or you haven't comprehended it. Either way, pathetic desu

>>80046953
those people can't accept that a work of fiction doesn't perfectly align with their political views

>>80046953
>anti trump kid thinks he understands trump enough to make that suggestion even though trump has been in office for 2 months and has done almost nothing
if trumps stands for anything, it's inaction

>>80046895

>Fake news

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/02/trump-on-islamic-state-terrorism-you-have-to-take-out-their-families/

Aside from any of this, Rick Berman's right. The Federation is a post-scarcity society. Currently we can't even get shit like Universal Healthcare, something that already exists in other countries.

>a real life person doesnt act like he's in a sci-fi show
Oh my god who fucking care.

>>80046953

Trump is opposed to Star Trek in terms of economy and globalism, true.

>>80047026
>The Federation is a post-scarcity society.

This would just lead to endless war. Once material desires are full fillable ad infinitum, what is left is idealism.

>Currently we can't even get shit like Universal Healthcare, something that already exists in other countries.

As it should be, because we don't live in a post-scarcity world.

>american president is reality tv show star and his critics cannot articulate their opposition to him without referencing science fiction or fantasy films

the ruskies should have nuked you fat fucking children

>>80047026
>The Federation is a post-scarcity society.

Well, real life isn't a futuristic utopia, that's hardly Trump's fault now is it?

Liberals hope for a better future for everyone. Conservatives don't. It's simple as that.

>>80046793
Saganfan is that you?

>>80046655

Yes, we would have no moral compass if it wasn't for television.

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>>80047026
Earth is a post-scarcity society. Federation on the whole isn't. We see a lot of traders flying banged-up freighters, and colonies that struggle with shortages of equipment so basic they can be bailed out by Enterprise's quartermaster. There is a lot of cultural friction going on, too.

>>80047078

>This would just lead to endless war.

Consider how many wars are started because of ideology, and how many are started because of resources and scarcity. Ideology's just the wrapping.

>As it should be, because we don't live in a post-scarcity world.

Neither are the countries that have universal healthcare systems. What's your point? We're also quickly moving toward post-scarcity at pretty alarming speeds. I say alarming, because nobody seems to notice.

>>80047121
>Liberals hope for a better future for everyone. Conservatives don't. It's simple as that.

So Conservatives are realistic.

>>80047078
that's why almost everyone joins starfleet to explore the universe

or they can always leave and go live on some colony that works in a different way

>>80046793

Its real easy to help others when you have a post-scarcity society...

>>80047105
Then they wouldn't have a boogeyman to blame for their country being an impoverished, nazi-ridden shithole.

>>80046856
https://youtu.be/I1eXRXL0nkk

>>80047121
I don't think you understand how humans work anon.

We all want peace and prosperity. Liberals ans conservatives just disagree on what we need to do to get there.

>>80047201
They'd find someone

>>80047170
I call it pessimistic, but sure.

>>80047163

Yeah, this is mostly true as I recall, and it makes for some interesting stories and conflicts. I do like the cultural friction stuff whenever it happens.

Obviously the Federation's not a utopia, because if it were, it'd be boring.

>>80047165
>Neither are the countries that have universal healthcare systems. What's your point?

They're running out of money so they've resorted to endless borrowing. Their economies will burst and they'll devolve into chaos. Stop forcing everyone to pay for your statist addiction.

We're also quickly moving toward post-scarcity at pretty alarming speeds.

You can't be this stupid. There's a scarce amount if resources on the planet. At best were just biding time.

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>>80047162
>socialism is communism

Mr. Goebbels would like a word with you in the gas chamber.

>>80047105
Behond the media circus thst paints some strange bizzaro world here, the reality is that most Americans did not vote for, do not agree with and disapprove of Trump. The majority of people are also able to articulate issues with his platform and near-reckless spending programs, poor cabinet picks, poorly written EOs ect...but you know, memes are stronger.

Remember that episode where violent thoughts were outlawed?

>>80047170
If you lack basic empathy for people, chances are you will grow up into a sociopath.

He means "Ī get my political views from Hollywood television series because I'm a dunce".

>>80047271
>They're running out of money so they've resorted to endless borrowing
You mean, like the US?

>>80047121
The path to hell is paved with good intentions. Conservatives know this, that's why they want to conserve the liberties and the great, secular society we already have, liberals don't understand this, that's why they are willing to sacrifice everything, even something as essential as freedom of speech, in order to achieve some abstract goal of a "better future for everyone" where all cultures have dropped their group preferences, live together in peace and harmony and act just like white liberals.

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>>80047284
really fires them neurons

>>80047214
Pessimism keeps you alive.

All the Zykloned Jews were the optimists.

>in a study published in January, a team led by psychologist Michael Dodd and political scientist John Hibbing of the University of Nebraska–Lincoln found that when viewing a collage of photographs, conservatives' eyes unconsciously lingered 15 percent longer on repellent images, such as car wrecks and excrement—suggesting that conservatives are more attuned than liberals to assessing potential threats.

>Meanwhile examining the contents of 76 college students' bedrooms, as one group did in a 2008 study, revealed that conservatives possessed more cleaning and organizational items, such as ironing boards and calendars, confirmation that they are orderly and self-disciplined. Liberals owned more books and travel-related memorabilia, which conforms with previous research suggesting that they are open and novelty-seeking.

>>80047312
True, but if you call someone a nazi, whether true or not, you can stop treating them as a human and no longer show any empathy at all. Isn't that convenient for you guys?

>>80047333
>conservatives
>secular

>>80047332
Yes.

Socialists are cancer.

>>80047206
based. an absolute god. america-kun is lucky to have him

>>80047336
It wasn't a socialist party you history illiterate fucknugget. Hitler rounded up and killed the socialists in Germany and shortly after rising to power, steered the Nazi Party towards conservative ideologies and appealing to the German working class. Idiots who call the Nazi Regime socialist have literally no clue what that word means or what they are talking about. Nazi Party became a right-wing regime almost immediately.

Don't you have to submit your application and be vetted before you get to join the Federation?

>>80047271

>Canada's running out of money.
>Britain's running out of money.
>Japan
>The Netherlands

Maybe look at a list of countries that have that in place before you decide on those things.

>There's a scarce amount if resources on the planet.

I don't think you actually know what post scarcity means. It doesn't mean that there is magically as much silicon as you could possibly ever use out of the ether. It means you can meet the basic needs of everyone with very minimal amount of human labor involved. Which would relate to automation. As for resources, there are advances in renewable energy and battery technology every year. We're not there yet, obviously, but it is inevitable.

It won't be a perfect world, but it will be better.

>>80047371
Yet it is capitalism that has drained our country of money and put us into trillions of dollars worth of debt. I am not a huge fan of socialism but don't sit there and pretend we live in a perfect economic system.

>>80047359
I assume you are pretending conservatives being on average more religious than liberals means they want a non-secular society? In that case, you are really fucking retarded.

>>80046793
>to not abuse their powers to gain special treatment

But this is what they did all the time?

>>80047388
>Right wing
>Less government
>National Socialists
>More government

Checks out. Conservatives are Nazis.

>>80047413
All isms are bad

>>80047162
Holy shit that chilean computer system sounds amazing, why did no one duplicate it? Did america destroy it in fear people might realise their are alternatives to being corporate slaves?

>>80046667
>This is the shit bag who ruined Star Trek

To be honest, he also saved it in late 80's.

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>>80047433
>Did america destroy it in fear people might realise their are alternatives to being corporate slaves?

yes

>>80047427
everything is an ism

>>80047353
>you guys
Fuck off with your identity politics, I never once called you a Nazi. The conservative parties need to remodel themselves or die out, they are outdated anyway. If you can't make basic adjustments to your platform over the course of a few hundred years, you honestly shouldn't really continue with it. Look at how the GOP was virtually ass fucked by their own candidate...

Their done. Whatever is left of them, certainly isn't conservative. Wanting to spend 54 billion on top of our bloated military spending is not conservative. I think these types of parties simply can't function anymore.

>>80047416
>literal voted by religious zealots
>pretend that laws abide to what the bible say
>a candidate would have zero chances if he said he was an atheist
>lol you retarded!

ok, kid

>>80047468
Everything is bad

>>80047420
Also didn't say this either...

You faggots are cancer, you know that? Right wing SJWs.

>>80047503
suicide isn't bad

>>80047503
but not equally

>>80047503

You're alright.

>>80047162
>socialism is bad
>literally every party in Europe has some socialist ideas
>even the right wings one

>>80047511
Suicide is painless

>>80047533

And every socialist party ends up adopting capitalism so what is your point?

>>80047509
You just said the National Socialists were Right Wing.

I believe you.

REAL Socialists don't just automatically turn into Totalitarian states.

So what this thread basically boils down to is there will never be a flawless system implemented in any society and nobody will ever be happy.

>>80047533
Most of the first world has some fashion of a mixed economic system, including the US. But people only think in boogeymen and cartoons.

So it looks like Cancelled after first season.

Star Trek fans are autistic they not gonna be happy when they change everything to libshit

>>80047565
Socialism will work eventually.

Every other attempt wasn't real Socialism.

>>80047559
that maybe compromising is the right way

>>80047560
I know you are being a cheeky cunt with this, but the only thing socialist about them was in their name...that's it. It was a ruse. You learn this in fucking highschool.

They were not in fact, a socialist party. They do not fall on that point on a political spectrum. Nazis were exceptionally conservative.

they're really grasping at the straws for the middle aged fat numale dork mind here

>>80047594
>This social program isn't working, we need more money.

>>80046793

>President of the United States acting in the best interest of his nation and her people is considered morally wrong

nuclear ash my boys, it's nuclear ash all the way down...

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>>80046479
>>80046557
lol

It's funny cos Star Trek is about as far from the regressive left and their poisonous ideology as it is from Trump. Perhaps further.

There's even a Voyager episode where they joke about Bolians making terrible Engineers and having a Klingon counsellor.
There's no affirmative action or human privilege, if a Bolian wants to be an engineer he has to pass the same tests as the humans. This is about as far from modern leftism as it gets.

>Small government (Starfleet =/= Earth)
>Humans largely left on their own to do whatever the fuck they want. Picard's family just dick about on their vineyard like the good old days.
>Humans strive for excellence and to better themselves through nothing but the work off their own back
>It's down to the individual to grow and help themselves.
Republican ideals.

Democrat ideals?
>There is no affirmative action
>There is no identity politics, the crew seem bemused when aliens treat men and women differently, like it doesn't even occur to humans anymore. The left in real life makes EVERYTHING about race/gender.
>Geordi wouldn't be called an Uncle Tom for voting for Trump. Infact the fact that he's black is never even mentioned once in 7 seasons of TNG.
>Deanna would never be attacked as rolling back the cause of feminism for wanting to be a girly girl and enjoy chocolate sundaes while picking flowers.
>Keiko wouldn't be attacked if she chose to be a stay at home mom.
>There is no welfare system, people have replicators and there's near limitless power so people just replicate what they need.
>There's not 50+ genders, there's just men and women.
>Everyone you disagree with isn't called racist or sexist or -ist.
>There's no white privilege or human privilege or able privilege. All races must meet the same standards and are considered equally on merit.

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>>80046771
I wonder if Akira Toriyama likes Trump.

>>80047600
>You learn this in fucking highschool.

Majority Democrat Union member working at a Social institution says Nazis weren't real Socialism.

No conflict of interest here.

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>>80047565
>there will never be a flawless system
there never wont be traffic jams as long as humans are driving
>and nobody will ever be happy.
time is a flat circle

>>80047660
Why do none of you know what the word "Leftist" or "liberal" mean?

>>80047689
Screw that tinfoil hat tighter on your head then.

>>80047660
>There's not 50+ genders, there's just men and women.
Nobody spergs out if you identify as a non-binary at all in Star Trek...

They would probably laugh that this bothers you. I know you want to pretend you are some enlightened faggot, but nobody in Star Trek would even spend energy concerned over your sexuality or gender.

>>80047736
That's me.

The crazy guy who thinks National Socialists are right wingers.

>>80047660
I hope this is a bad pasta and you didnt actually write this out all self-confident and delusional. Or is it a goof? Are you actually unironically this silly of a person? Do you really think that the global world government that heads up a confederation of other global government is the "small government" side? You retards are getting triggered by globalists like a bunch of tribal apes and you honestly think you're on team starfleet?

Yall niggers are starship troopers. delusional cuck.

>>80047795
I keep trying to explain to you that they are only socialist in name:
>The party emerged from the German nationalist, racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against the communist uprisings in post-World War I Germany.[7] The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[8] Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.[9]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

Yes those socialist anti-Marxists...

>>80047825
>Do you really think that the global world government that heads up a confederation of other global government is the "small government" side

So you think "small government" means a government that only accounts for a small geographic region of earth??

Well damn I guess the Vatican City is the model of small government that we should all be aiming for lmao.

The Trek government may be united over all Earth, but they don't regulate every single minute aspect of everyone's lives, and shower everyone in red tape and regulations. That's what small government means.

But thanks for playing.

>>80047795
they where. do you have a schizoaffective disorder? do you read? why dont you know history better? why are you ok with thinking that not knowing stuff is the best way to live your life?

>>80046479
he's right you know

I'm pol as fuck and I love Star Trek, a human society where money has no value, people are free to pursue their own interests and make productive use of their time, art for the sake of art rather than shitting on a canvas for £1,000,000 (Who could be behind such a system?), there's "race realism" and stereotyping (would you ever vet your life on a white man winning olympic gold in sprints?) alongside due respect for anyone that's proved their worth against those established truths, and best of all you can play ultra realistic fully customisable video games all day and it not be a waste of time.

>>80047833
>Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.[9]

Name a single time a Socialist state didn't do exactly the same thing.

Then say how every single time it wasn't real Socialism.

It always devolves to the same thing.

>>80047950
You seriously don't see or understand how this is different...? Holy shit, you must be retarded. It never WAS socialist to begin with brainlet. It was a ruse game to get the German working class.

You do understand that Mao and Hitler are on reverse ends of the extreme political spectrum, right? Same with Hitler and Stalin. Hitler has virtually always been considered extreme right.

>>80047942

b-but Hillary said she stands for equality and that Trump is a nasty racist, s-so Picard would vote for Hillary!

Drumpfkins btfo.

It's hilarious watching these hard-left authoritarian kiddies thinking that their regressive poisonous ideology wouldn't be laughed out of the 24th Century Trek world just as fast as the hard-right authoritarian policies they love to mock so much.

Horseshoe theory is so true.

>>80047950
>Name a single time a Socialist state didn't do exactly the same thing.
You want me to name a socialist state that was anti-Marxist?

Well...none, you dumb faggot.

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>>80047942
>I'm /pol/
Why would you be any measure of proud to mention that?

>hey everyone, I'm retarded!

>>80048033

Yeah, you'd have to be pretty retarded to think that the current established 1st world leftism would stand for the non-interference stance the Federation has.

Fuck you Rick Berman, you helped ruin Star Trek

>>80047882
>So you think "small government" means a government that only accounts for a small geographic region of earth??
Nonsense ques
>Well damn I guess the Vatican City is the model of small government that we should all be aiming for lmao.
Also nonsense point that has nothing to do with anything. You decided to "restate" what I said, creating a strawman about geographic size, then went about acting like that was the conversation.
But it is cute how you haven't realized yet that "small government" is a meme that your propagandists bamboozled you with. they're only "small government" when they don't control it.
>but they don't regulate every single minute aspect of everyone's lives, and shower everyone in red tape and regulations.
A: Yeah they do. Prime Directive is a pretty apt example of that. Half the episodes are about rules and regulation and ethical dilemmas within a structured legal environment. Have you ever watched a single episode?
B: Nice meaningless talking point. the only reason you've been trained to mumble about "red tape" is because you're a spokesperson for corporations and banks.
>That's what small government means.
I dont know that you know much of what anything means.
>But thanks for playing.
Real talk, this shit made me cringe youngfriend. I'm embarrassed for you. Future reference maybe dump the iamverysmart.jpg shit, particularly when you have mush brains.

>>80048081

Who said anything about pride? I'm establishing on a basic level my viewpoints and how I enjoy Star Trek despite its ideology being supposedly anathema to me.

This isn't my blog so I didn't feel the need to precisely lay out my ideals for 3 paragraphs before saying my piece.

>>80048031
The end game of all Socialists is the same. The acquisition of power and the expansion if the State for the propose of utopian revisionism.

>>80048062
Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Et cetera all killed allies and political foes on the same political spectrum.

Yes, they were anti-marxists. Because when you become the Bourgeoise, it's important to stay that way.

Good thing Star Trek never had any long spanning neutral zones that geometrically resemble walls.

What about Ira Steven Behr and Michael Piller?

>>80048168
Yeah great, but the Nazi Party was inherently a right-wing totalitarian regime, bud. Who they killed didn't change that fact.

>>80048113

Starfleet is not the Earth government.
It's like saying "Oh yeah you stand for self determination? Well how come your Navy has strict rules and a command hierarchy? Checkmate".

And the Federation?
>In the UFP the member planetary governments agreed to exist semi-autonomously under a single central authority based on the Utopian principles of universal liberty, rights, and equality, and to share their knowledge and resources in peaceful cooperation and space exploration; each member world retained its own political and social structure, with the Federation itself serving as a 'United Nations'-type advisory body.
>'United nations'

Sounds quite small and non-regulatory to me.

>>80048168
Tl>The acquisition of power and the expansion if the State for the propose of utopian revisionism.
Sounds like every totalitarian regime, left or right.

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>>80046895
Imagine being so cucked by your president that you fully buy into his "fake news" meme and immediately assume that anything that could even remotely paint him in a bad light is made up

I'm not saying there isn't fake news out there, of course there is, and Trump gets hit by it the most, but if you're doing the work of assuming bad stuff = fake for him, you are well and truly cucked my friend.

Sad.

>>80048313
His supporters don't give a shit what is true, they never have. Just conservative fee fees.

>>80046479
This is why I sympathise with the Klingons, Ferengi, Romulans and Cardassians

>>80048179
The neutral zone is an area set up to prevent war between two empires.

The ambitions for Trumps wall aren't nearly as grand, nor vital. It's not there for anything nearly as big as to prevent war between empires is it

>>80048230
>It's like saying
Again with the strawman pivot to change the discussion to what you'd prefer to talk about because you're an intellectually dishonest person.
>'United nations'
oh so star fleet is like that organization that nationalists and small government conservatives hate and bitch about constantly. checkmate you I guess.
>Sounds quite small and non-regulatory to me.
Well you're a literal crazy person and an undereducated child so lets go ahead and not go by what it sounds like to you.

>>80048416
Trump's wall won't do anything at all.

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>>80048529
itll make trump a billionaire again.

>>80048360
>being a literal race traitor

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>>80048529
Of course it won't. It's a morons simple answer to a complex problem

>Gee how do we deal with the complex nature of the movement of people, how that relates to the economy of both ourselves and our neighbours and how do we deal with drug cartels all while maintaining good diplomatic relations with a nation that shares our borders?

>HURR BUILD WALL MAKE NEIGHBOUR PAY FOR IT YOU CAN'T WALK THROUGH WALL WHO CARES WHAT NEIGHBOUR NATION THINKS USA #1

Yeah, because a wall is really going to put a stop to the problem isn't it?

A fucking child's solution.

>>80047825
>self-confident
>delusional.
>goof
>silly of a person
>You retards
>bunch of tribal apes
>Yall niggers
>delusional cuck.

>>80048113
>it is cute
>you're a spokesperson for corporations and banks.
>youngfriend.
>iamverysmart.jpg shit
>mush brains.

>>80048473
>intellectually dishonest person.
>you're a literal crazy person
>an undereducated child

And I'm the one throwing out strawmen.

Top kek.

>>80046626
>parps
What is this means

>>80048657
AGREED

I didn't build my house with walls and its fucking fine, the wall is a stupid idea.

>>80048690
What a retarded analogy, newfriend.

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>>80048657
>A fucking child's solution.

When you're losing an argument so you just call your opponents children over and over.

FUCKING CHILDREN REEEEE

>>80046479
(((Berman)))

>>80048690
Please tell me how throwing a few billion dollars at a wall stops illegal immigration of overstayed visas and flying into the country with commercial flights?

Do you think Mexicans are literally running at the border? Like speedy Gonzalez?

>>80048708
But it is an oversimplified "solution" to a complex problem...? It literally is just a financial sinkhole of a project.

>>80046793
>The people that voted for Trump instead want isolationism

nah. just because we dont want to go all eurofag open borders globalist doesnt mean we want complete isolation lmao

>>80048657
Wall just got 10 feet higher.

>>80048708
It is a child's solution though. It ignores all of the complexities involved in the situation in favour of a physical barrier, because as we all know Diego and Maria looking for a better life in the US will just turn back when faced with a wall. And we all know that drug smugglers will just fuck off all the money they could make in the US because the wall is there

>>80048690
I hope you're not being serious with that shitty rebuttal there mate.

>>80048704
the analogy was 100x the argument that the one the guy I was replying to use

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>>80048679

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>>80046479
>it's a liberal has to reference the bad vs. good guys plots in sci fi or fantasy movies to make a heavy-handed point episode

Remind me to never watch Star Trek

>>80048726
you're a fucking idiot, a literal brainlet.

you punish businesses for hiring illegals while deporting illegals and the wall keeps them from coming back in

fuckin neck yourself if you think the wall is the only part of the immigration agenda

>Do you think Mexicans are literally running at the border? Like speedy Gonzalez?

Nigger yes, they just walk across.

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>>80048794
>the wall keeps them from coming back in

Oh now naive you are

Christ

>>80048750
>DA GLOBALIST BOOGEYWOOGEY REEE
ever think, that yoi have been duped into thinking that this globalism meme is your bad bad wolf just to play on your emotional fears and to divert you from thinking about real solutions to complicated economic problems?

The way I see it, the inevitable end game for a post-modern society is in fact complete movement of people safely and a global network of trade and political trans-country unity. If we even still have countries at all.

Why exactly would you be opposed to that in 100 years or so? If that is where our entire race was headed, and it contributed to better economic conditions or lowered world poverty, why is this something you don't like?

Tell me without memes or /pol/isms...if possible.

>>80048726
Spotted the beaner

>>80048855
great argument faggot you really made me think

>>80048863
>its a Eurofag argues that worldwide Communist revolution is inevitable oh wait I mean globalism and IGO's are inevitable haha
>he thinks China will ever open its country up to immigration

hahahaha

>>80048892
My argument is that the wall in fact won't prevent them from coming back in. Sorry I had to spell it out for you.

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>>80048676
I'm not creating a strawman to argue against in lieu of an actual argument. I'm making fun of you for your silly ass argument and overwhelming ineptitude trying to defend it, and your self-importance. Glad you have now abandoned your entire argument to whine about being mocked. I accept your forfeit.

thanks for the compiling all the things that describe you into one post though. Now that can be used as a convenient reference.

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>>80046479
That's true desu, Star Trek is set in a communist utopia. His mistake is to think that it can be used as a guideline of how the real world should work.

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>>80048915
>LE TUNNEL

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>>80048794
>you punish businesses for hiring illegals
Which has never feesibly worked
>while deporting illegals and the wall keeps them from coming back in
Kek, you are naive as shit. So look, despite the immigration rate being as low as it has ever been in 30 years, it just simply isn't true that they are coming here by walking over the border. Border patrol deport thousands a fucking year, but they aren't addressing where most of the movement is coming from...flights. The majority of illegals are overstays, not people darting for the border. I am not surprised that you Trumpfags, at no point during the election, looked this statistic up. Takes three seconds.
>fuckin neck yourself if you think the wall is the only part of the immigration agenda
It is the centerpiece of his "plan". If you can even call it that. Tell me how that un-Constitutional Muslim ban worked out for you retards? Your idiot President went and cried about the Judiciary doing it's job.
>Nigger yes, they just walk across.
No, they don't

>>80048863
I hope for your sake youre still in high school.

>>80048892
its a Eurofag argues that worldwide Communist revolution is inevitable oh wait I mean globalism and IGO's are inevitable haha
>he thinks China will ever open its country up to immigration
First off, American. Secondly, open borders is not a Communist belief by itself, thirdly you never answered my question and fourthly, I never once mentioned Communisim...

Thanks for trying brainlet.

>>80048981
Still not an argument. I'm sorry I don't drink that /pol/ kool-aid like you. Can't even give me a real answer. Typical.

>>80048965
>despite the immigration rate being as low as it has ever been in 30 years, it just simply isn't true that they are coming here by walking over the border.

there are officially 11 million illegals in America, the number is likely much higher.


>No, they don't
I live in Arizona , yes they do. There are hundreds of miles of desert around here and the BC cant cover it all, saying "no ur wrong" is pretty retarded.

>Tell me how that un-Constitutional Muslim ban worked out for you retards

the 9th court is highly liberal has an 80% turnover rate when taken to the Supreme Court. Try again

>>80046479
Suicide Squad is Trump
Star Trek is opposite of Trump.

Suicide Squad beats Star Trek -> Trump won again.

Bravo.

>>80048989
>I never once mentioned Communisim...

since you're fucking dense, your hard-on and "globalism is da future and will happen no matter what" is exactly the same type of religious-tier shit that Marxist spouted about the eventual fall of Capitalism and rise of Communism.

>>80048794
>buying into the immigration is an actual problem and not just a talking point that rouses the rabble meme

>>80049012
I dont go on /pol/

Your childish Type 1 civilization fantasy is just that, childish. You clearly have no idea how the actual strata of power would be in such a globalist network, and that it would be hell on Earth for the vast majority of humanity.

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>>80046479

>Starfleet has employed a shield wall to defend Earth by the time of Star Trek Nemesis.. about time too, a major plot point is the villain trying to get the codes to lower the space wall defending Earth

Actually it sounds more pro Trump to me

>>80049035
so you do have an actual schizotypal disorder don't you? You're incapable of actual responding to the actual things people say. You seem to be really struggling with all the cognitive dissonance.

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>>80049022
>First film in a series with a character that inspired every girls Halloween costume last year beat the third film in a series that while having rather impressive make up, didn't reinvent its own wheel

Really gets your noggin joggin'

>>80049059
So you advocate for regional tribalism then?

>>80049020
>I live in Arizona , yes they do. There are hundreds of miles of desert around here and the BC cant cover it all, saying "no ur wrong" is pretty retarded.
Man, I fucking hate when libtards come up with complex solutions while covering their eyes from simple problems.

Beaner moms giving birth on american soil? OVERSTAYED VISAS, etc.

They're so fucking sheltered, they don't see what's happening around them anymore.

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>>80049020
>there are officially 11 million illegals in America, the number is likely much higher.
No, it is not "likely" much higher just because Breitbart said so. 11 million is not a lot compared to the illegal immigration rates ten or even 20 years ago. For fuck's sake, most of the Syrian refugees even left already. Obama also deported millions a few years ago. We do not have an illegal immigration catastrophe here, most pay taxes and make more money than they take.
>I live in Arizona , yes they do. There are hundreds of miles of desert around here and the BC cant cover it all, saying "no ur wrong" is pretty retarded.
I don't give a fuck where you are from. You obviously can't look at immigration math objectively. It is a literal statistical fact that the majority of all illegal immigration is done through overstays...
>the 9th court is highly liberal has an 80% turnover rate when taken to the Supreme Court. Try again
Oh fucking kill yourself you crybaby, "WAHHHH THE JUDICIARY DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE SOME ARE LIBERAL". What a faggot complaint, the GOP runs nearly every level of government and you still bitch? I'm sorry Trump can't just please you and take over all branches of government and command them to do what he says, on the off chance some /pol/baby has a sperg fit that the Supreme fucking Court makes a decision you don't like.

It wasn't Constitutional, kiddo. No organized group besides Republicans thought so. Sorry. Try again.

>>80049059
>your areo-plane will never fly!

>I am against globalism because I don't want elites to be in charge of the world
>this literally already happens

>>80049059
We already have global markets that exist and a direct result of this was the lowest global poverty has ever been in nearly 1000 years...

You live in a economic fantasy world where you think we don't absolutely need to trade and work with other markets and other people. The planet is small. Our species has never succeeded in your isolationist nightmare.

>>80048794
>fuckin neck yourself if you think the wall is the only part of the immigration agenda
fucking better well be. migrant labor is kind of good for our economy. It definitely doesn't have such a negative effect on the gdp to deserve spending a few dozen billion dollars.

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>>80048922

>Actually I wasn't using strawman arguments I was just ad hominem attacking you directly

>This means that I won

>>80049035
So that's a no on the discourse, then?

>>80049183
Working with other people does not mean you need to destroy your individual cultures in order to accommodate a global market where every single consumer is the exact same. That's the end goal of all this. Turning human culture into one grey consumerist mix who are easy to sell shit to because every cultural difference has been destroyed.

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>>80049059
>implying thats not exactly what le globalists want you to think

>>80048330
Quit with the projection you brainless shill.

>>80046479
Not Janeway, though.

>>80049191
>watching the news
>interviewing Iowa farmers
>they're all flipping out because all the cheap immigrant labor is going away
>same area went over 80 percent Trump
It's like they didn't even listen to him.

>>80049224
>destroying muh culture meme
Okay see I think this is where the dissonance starts and ends with you, this has always been a boogeyman. It isn't actually happening. It's legit crazyspeak.

>>80049231
You don't know what projection means, do you? Please tell me how it isn't fee fees, since nothing Trump says has rver been based on real facts.

>>80049140
>>80049111
'Not an argument.' as a little twat like you would say.

>>80049183
Trade means having borders and sovereign nations, not a mixed up soup of shit where most of the worlds population lives in squalor while a tiny group holds power over the entire globe, which is exactly what would happen in a true globalist society.

>>80049191
Illegal migrant labor absolutely destroys teenager labor participation and poor urban communities.
Teenagers used to do all those shitty farm jobs in the summer for spending cash in the school year because every other kind of job is really limited in the countryside.
Those migrants have to live and work somewhere. They compete with the poor and disenfranchised who now have a ridiculously cheap labor force to compete with in the housing and job markets.

>>80046479
He's right, Star Trek was designed to show a better future with everybody working together.

Anybody who's only just realising that Star Trek has always had liberalism at it's core is a fucking idiot

>>80049198
>made the argument that the star trek universe is actually "small government conservative"
>now literally only whining about being mocked after abandoning every point
also
>thinking theres winners in shitposting.
please reference: >>80048676

No doubt about it, there is a genuine Shareblue faggot in this thread.

>>80049245
>it isn't actually happening
What do you think "westernization" is?
Blue jeans and fast food guzzling retardation that is being forced on nearly everyone in the world. Children growing up with nothing but the overwhelming pretense of american run media and goods in their lives.

>>80048863
>Why exactly would you be opposed to that in 100 years or so? If that is where our entire race was headed, and it contributed to better economic conditions or lowered world poverty, why is this something you don't like?
>Tell me without memes or /pol/isms...if possible.

Because it's naive and unrealistic.

I'm European, and we already tried this experiment. It's called the EU. It was a grandiose blue-skies dream by European federalists who dreamt of a European future with all the things you described. Free movement of people, jobs, goods, services, money. No national borders.

What happened?

In theory people stay put and stuff normalises out so everyone has the same standards of living. Jobs and goods are free to spread everywhere.

What happens in reality?

Everyone left the poor areas and swarmed the rich ones to get more money. The UK, France, Germany, and others are struggling to cope with school and hospital places. There are also racial and cultural tensions from natives who are stuggling to find work when there are 10 Eastern Europeans who would do the same job for half the price. Meanwhile there are literal ghost towns in places like Poland where every single young person of working age moved to the capital, or to western europe for jobs.

Greece is in financial ruin, unemployment is staggeringly high.
Italy is in financial ruin.
Spain and Portugal are on the way.

It's like your North-South American divide. Like job oppourtunities in NYC vs rural Alabama, but on a continental / global scale.

>>80049243
>bullshit that never happened

Theres literally nothing farmed here thats immigrant harvested.

Corn, wheat and soy are machine planted and harvested. Wine grapes are high schooler harvested. Detassaling is a high schooler job.

Nothing else is commercially grown here. Theres zero need for immigrants in agricultural jobs here.

Immigrants here are scab Labor or do concrete work.

>>80049276
>Trade means having borders and sovereign nations
You act like this is a concept humans are going to hold forever and everer.
>not a mixed up soup of shit where most of the worlds population lives in squalor while a tiny group holds power over the entire globe
Again, lowest global poverty in literally hundreds of years...isolationism didn't do that. I think you are caught up on what "globalist" does or doesn't mean. A lot of you are gullible as fuck to begin with and buy into the dumbest of things. You never know what that word means.
>which is exactly what would happen in a true globalist society.
Well, no. You just believe this due to memes and being autistic.

>>80049276
>'Not an argument.' as a little twat like you would say.
LOL you're the only one that said it, tribalist twat.

>>80049314
>What do you think "westernization" is?
An overblown meme and not "le destruction of white culture"? There is no organized effort to destroy cultures.

>>80047634
It's cute that you actually think that.

>>80049373
>There is no organized effort to destroy cultures.
Except for when whites gets all up in a froth and do a genecide as a goof.

It's hilarious that even after winning, Trumpfags are still angry and having constant meltdowns. I think they actually thought that people would start to respect them if Trump won and their lives wouldn't be empty and pathetic anymore. But it never happened, everyone still sees them as retarded losers and their idol as a joke. The respect will never come and deep down they know that their lives will get even shittier under Trump.

>>80049305

I didn't abandon my points, I just already made them all.

Star Trek government is liberalism with a small l.

Remember Angel One? The humans were asked to leave but refused, so Picard said there's nothing he can do. Those humans were not extradited, they weren't Starfleet so weren't bound by Starfleet rules.

The Federation doesn't dictate how humans live their lives, it's small government. If they want to live on that planet and be outlaws they can do just that.

Trump is also anti-regulation.

>>80047634
>President of the United States acting in the best interest of his nation and her people is considered morally wrong
>best interest of his nation

trump isn't a Russian citizen

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>>80046667
Rick Berman presided over the greatest years of Trek which includes Best of Both Worlds.

We should be so lucky to have the man these days.

>>80049318
But the EU more or less is functional and better than there being nothing. You need to recognize what will be human society's economic trend over the next few centuries. I can tell you with a certainty, what it isn't...isolationism. That has never worked and will continue to not work as long as the planet gets smaller and smaller due to technology and increased standards of living for the majority of people. However long between when this happens and now, human society will move more towards free complete movement of people globally and both the assimilation of most societies as well as preserving unique and different cultures. It isn't naive, we already are on a global market stage and it has been more beneficial than not.

You act like human society doesn't change.

>>80049373
Who says I'm talking about "white culture"? Control your meme filled head for a second. I'm talking about all culture.
Would you agree that a singular global culture would be easier to market goods to than a bunch of varied cultures?
If you agree with that, then do you not think groups with certain economic interests wouldn't attempt this destruction of culture in order to market their goods with less effort and need for localization? Do you think culture destruction is not inherent trait of spreading a supra-culture?

>>80049450
>both the assimilation of most societies as well as preserving unique and different cultures
Everything else you mentioned is going to happen except that second part here.
It's not profitable. Enjoy the grey cultural wasteland.

>>80049458
>Who says I'm talking about "white culture"?
Kek, this is literally what these autistic ad fuck arguments boil down to. I knew it was coming.
>Would you agree that a singular global culture would be easier to market goods to than a bunch of varied cultures?
I don't give a fuck what your culture is or isn't, it doesn't effect if I want to trade vital resources with you or not. Why is it so important for you that no cultures change? Do you want Muslims to regard women as propety forever? Oh, but see, that's cultural change you like...right? Stop acting like a brainlet and thinking that cultures HAVE to stay the same.
>If you agree with that, then do you not think groups with certain economic interests wouldn't attempt this destruction of culture in order to market their goods with less effort and need for localization?
Again, none of this makes any real sense. You keep assuming that "destruction of culture" is a thing. We don't work backwards with a claim.
>Do you think culture destruction is not inherent trait of spreading a supra-culture?
First off, no. Secondly you haven't sufficiently explained evidence for "muh culture destruction" boogeyman. Do you mean cultural change over time?

Well kiddo, explain why a culture changing over time is wrong. Unless you want to double down on being a hardline regressive, what exactly do you want? So,we revert cultures to some arbitrary period of "best culture?" Do you get to decide that?

This whole song and dance is just a load of /pol/ shit to disguise how you really want to just peddle white genocide

>>80049480
Again, why do you people think mixing and changing culture is BAD? Why do you assume this creates a vacuum of "no culture bye bye"?

>>80049059
>Your childish Type 1 civilization fantasy is just that, childish

*tips fedora* lmao 15 year old watched Michiu Gooku on youtube and thinks he knows whats up

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>realize the first episode of tng q is actually trump.
really made me think.

>>80049339
So youre an actual shill, good to know, I wont bother wasting my time anymore.

>>80049123

>The shill from yesterday who got BTFO is back typing up a storm using his arsenal of fallacious logic and an army of strawmen

>>80049566
>all cultures are equal
>all cultures are good
>cultures mix instead of congregate in ghettos
>the strongest culture doesnt dominate the other

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>>80049595
Ah there it is, when people outside youe containment are shockingly smarter than you and you can't argue for shit, call them a shill! That will do it! You sure showed me!

>>80049595
>>80049608
>standard /pol/ 'logic' of calling everyone who disagrees with him a shill

Someone should explain to (((Berman))) that Trump is very pro-NASA and it's the left-wing that no longer cares about that kinda shit. Obama defunded the fuck out of NASA and I won't even bother posting the video of Bill Nye getting kicked in the balls by reality when he tried talking about alien life with a couple of Obama's children because it's too depressing.

>>80049566
Because cultures don't mix. Children are indoctrinated into whatever culture they grow up with and that's that.

People can be open-minded to different cultures when it doesn't invade their daily lives such as on vacation. Everyone is going to get mad otherwise.

>>80049608
>82 anons

>>80049625
> shockingly smarter than you

>dude just smoke weed and all cultures will get along aha what could go wrong :^)

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>>80049608
This fag better not be making more than minimum wage, hes terrible.

>>80049450
>You act like human society doesn't change.

It largely doesn't.

Back in the early 1900s there were people saying all the things you just said. People marvelled at the new brilliant technological world. The interconnectedness. They said world war on a scale seen in our past was now impossible due to the increase in global trade and because every nation is now linked and intertwined with every other. The rest is history.

You talk about globalisation being pushed because it's this great noble thing that will drive up the living standards of all men. But it's only being pushed because bankers and businessmen can drive up their profits. They don't care about the quality of life of anyone on Earth. Just their margins.

The same things happened during the industrial revolution and global trade boom. Both were supposed to increase everyone's quality of life. Both just increased the gap between the rich and poor at the expense of the common man instead.

>>80049639
>cultures don't mix
Buddy, I think you missed the last 100,000 years of human history...

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>>80048720
(((Donald Trump)))

>>80049429
>I didn't abandon my points, I just already made them all.
Eh you mostly said irrelevant full fallacy nonsense or just quoted a thing and tried to make the argument that the fucking UN is a conservative, "small government" organization.
>The humans were asked to leave but refused, so Picard said there's nothing he can do.
ALMOST LIKE THERES A BUNCH OF REGULATION AND "RED TAPE" PREVENTING HIM FROM DOING THAT YOU LITERAL 14 YEAR OLD.
>The Federation doesn't dictate how humans live their lives
A: you're now starting to illustrate again how you don't actually know political science shit again.
B: "they weren't Starfleet so weren't bound by Starfleet rules" is pretty much how it works across the board dummy. But if we want to go with your logic, Republicans where the ones that invaded a sovereign nation in defiance of the UN. So they're pretty much the opposite of Picard.
>Trump is also anti-regulation.
Trump is a corporatist. He's going to strip regulation is going to destroy the environment and take the economy off its meds, while cutting taxes for corporations and increasing defense and wall spending dramatically. He's not thinking about the future. He's not thinking about humanity. He's about to finally be a billionaire again.

>>80049622
This is not an answer. Why is it bad for cultures to change over time?

>>80049672
Cultures very rarely mix. What happens is that the dominant culture takes over and then the dominated people inevitably begin to deviate from the dominant culture through time and lack of contact to the central source.

>>80049665
>human society largely doesn't change
I literally stopped reading after this absolutely retarded as shit statement. Fucking Christ.

the supremacy of western culture which comes to dominate the human species?

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>>80049625
actually with this response, maybe not a shill, just a honest to god 14 yo shitposting on saturday morning

probably munching on a bowl of some kind of sugary cereal there too

>>80049688
>dude just let literal space-faring, genome mapping culture become islamic culture its not like they live in the stone age

that's true

but also before star trek around this time we had the bell riots because of wealth inequality and demonisation of the working class so we're right on course with the trump election

>>80049665
>It largely doesn't.
>Back in the early 1900s
lol m8. What is the internet? What are airplanes? What are self-driving cars? What is automatization? What is the exponential rate of technological growth?

Holy fuck you gotta go.

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>>80049692
>Cultures very rarely mix
>ignore how some of the most influential and lucrative periods of human history have been due to in large part, by cultural mixing
>America is not a world superpower and cultural melting pot of people and ideas.
>Neither was Rome, Greece or any other large macrocosm of cultures
I honestly want to know where some of you get your information from.

>>80049700
fuck china and their superhumans.

>>80049282
>Anybody who's only just realising that Star Trek has always had liberalism at it's core is a fucking idiot

Liberals weren't batshit insane SJW's of today when most of Trek have been made. Whole TNG-DS9-VOY-era was made with guidelines agreed on in mid-80's. Liberalism had already started to become less sane, but not batshit insane it is today. 60's progressive would be without doubt classified as fucking nazi by todays liberals, 80's liberal would be seen fascist by SJW's.

There are few episodes that go further than that like Avery Brooks ego trip about 50's racism, most of writing team didn't want to make that episode, but it became ego-contest. Movie side was more free for creators, so there things were more along lines of contemporary liberalism.

Star Trek has regressed with progressives.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/15/how-star-trek-explains-the-decline-of-liberalism/

>>80046479
Star Trek was presented as a left-wing atheist utopia. He's completely right.

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Why did Tom and Tuvok build a wall between them and these aliens?

Didn't they know walls are racist?

Why didn't they let the nice alien men in to share their rations?

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>>80049664
He replies to almost EVERYTHING to the point that other shills legitimately tell him "Dude stop being a fucking amateur and replying to people who are BTFOing you."

Also, notice that someone uses this exact same reaction image in the histrionic posting style on the bottom.

>I'm helping you guys out, you should be thankful for me pointing out your obvious flaws

>>80049710
Still not answering the question with any rstional discourse attached.

>>80049692
>then the dominated people inevitably begin to deviate from the dominant culture through time and lack of contact to the central source.
bruh literally what?
Cultures generally assimilate within 1 generation. Why do you just say silly meaningless shit? Why don't your parents tell you when you're being so cringey?

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>>80047942
>Who could be behind such a system?

Are you suggesting that the Jews are behind modern art?

>>80049625
>youe containment are shockingly smarter than you

gotta love this ferric atonement

>>80049766
He's delusional to the point of thinking him being right is some kind of statement against Trump.

In reality, it only goes to show how detached from reality the concept of Star Trek has been in the first place.

>>80049774
some cultures are fucking awful, they are a thousand years behind us in human rights, political philosophy and science.

what kind of fucking retard are you

>>80049771
Holy shit you are a paranoid schizofuck aren't you?
>so autistic that you have to think everyone is a boogeyman from a different thread

>>80049551
>Kek, this is literally what these autistic ad fuck arguments boil down to. I knew it was coming.
No one mentioned this white culture shit until you did. I'm not even white.
>I don't give a fuck what your culture is or isn't, it doesn't effect if I want to trade vital resources with you or not. Why is it so important for you that no cultures change? Do you want Muslims to regard women as propety forever? Oh, but see, that's cultural change you like...right? Stop acting like a brainlet and thinking that cultures HAVE to stay the same.
I think humanity is beautiful because of these differences and get rid of them to satiate economic quotas is genuine evil.
>Again, none of this makes any real sense. You keep assuming that "destruction of culture" is a thing. We don't work backwards with a claim.
I'm giving you a reason for why destruction of culture exists. A economic reason for why someone would want to see it happen.
Now as for examples of culture destruction happening, look no further than the aforementioned "westernization" taking root everywhere. Everyone celebrating commercial holidays like Halloween or Valentine's in countries with no relevant culture attachments to the holidays.
>Well kiddo, explain why a culture changing over time is wrong. Unless you want to double down on being a hardline regressive, what exactly do you want? So,we revert cultures to some arbitrary period of "best culture?" Do you get to decide that?
What is humanity other than the collection of vastly different thought patterns that allow us to succeed in a variety of environments?
A global supraculture is a destruction of fitness. By destroying variety in cultural behaviors, you're ultimately dooming humanity through a form of ideological inbreeding.
>This whole song and dance is just a load of /pol/ shit to disguise how you really want to just peddle white genocide
I'm not white and I've never touched /pol/ in my life, the fuck is wrong with you?

test

>>80049751
all of those cultures were white

most non-whites have shit cultures because they're biologically inferior. reminder that 70% of British Pakistani Muslims are inbred

>>80046479
Literally Fully automated luxury communism: The Show

>>80046479
heh..this unironically made me think

>>80049764

You gamergater alt right cunts are worse than SJWs. I've never seen so many anime avatars on twitter have a problem with women, muslims and blacks. SJWs generally are more concerned with dumb shit like gender pronouns and diversity. you alt right cunts want people banned and women in the kitchen.

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>>80049818
>being this buttblasted because nobody likes your cult
>mfw trump dies in prison for treason

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>>80049828
you are SO obvious. you really should be fired jesus christ
if your boss is reading this CAN THIS BUSH LEAGUE FAGGOT

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>>80049828
>paranoid
>schizofuck
>autistic
>boogeyman

Going for the adhd child angle I see

>>80049751
>cultural mixing
Are you acting like Ellis Island immigrants caused any "mixing"? They just got absorbed into the overall cultural mass. A few italian or chinese restaurants is nothing.

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>>80049872
you mean Obama

>>80049823
I never once denied that some cultures are behind, but them remaining isolationist and refusing to mix these people isn't going to fundamentally help change their culture from the inside. You have been missing the point this whole time, I want cultures to change over time. I don't want people to hold to outdated 1000 year old beliefs at the expense of human rights.

>>80049823
This. No culture is equal, so whether it can be incorporated has to be determined case by case.

Western culture has been largely tame. People watched american movies and TV, wore jeans, all that kind of shit. Nobody minded.

But when you have people in fucking burkas wanting utter devotion to islam and building mosques all of a sudden, people are going to arise. It's not just a difference of culture when it's also a difference of religion ingrained into said culture.

>>80049608
>>80049628
>>80049664
>>80049771
prove youre not samefag right now

>>80049699
>>80049748
>lol m8. What is the internet? What are airplanes? What are self-driving cars? What is automatization? What is the exponential rate of technological growth?

Those are technological inventions. Do I literally have to explain the difference between a piece of technology and human society to you?

>Get your news by reading articles in the newspaper and listening to the wireless
>Get your news by reading articles on your iPad TM and listening to the television
>Get your news by reading articles on your PADD and listening to the comm transmission

>Entertain yourself by reading books on paper, watching humans play fictional characters in the theatre.
>Entertain yourself by reading books on kindle TM, watching humans play fictional characters in the cinema.
>Entertain yourself by reading books on PADD, watching humans play fictional characters in the holodeck.

Woah man human society totally changed cos some stuff was invented. It's not just the same shit different day.

>>80049844
And there it is...

>>80049900
we're talking about those monkeys coming to 1st world countries and changing the culture

the problem with your theory is that these people dont WANT to mix, they want their culture to dominate. and Western cultures are bending over backwards to make that a reality

>>80049818
>sci-fi series
>detached from reality

Well, yeah

>>80046479
Star Trek is based on a communist futuristic paradise, so he's right.

>>80049889
>America is not a cultural melting pot
You are just in denial now

>>80049937
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm

>55% married to first cousin

loving every laugh

>>80049898
lol its funny because you have no idea how real shit is about to get for donny boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCNrK-n68CM&t=403s

>>80046793
Ugh. Baited
>The Federation has a very strict prime directive which clearly states that they do involve themselves in the business of lower worlds.
Bajor itself was considered a lower world which means if you are autistic enough to compare Star Trek to Trump theres no way the federation would help or care about 3rd world refugees
Hell even DS9 had an episode about Bajor wouldn't take on a planet full of dirty disgusting refugees because they were ruining their nice way of life.

>>80046887

Came to this thread for this, thank you.

>>80049941
Yes, look at all that Sharia Law in the UK...

>>80049792
>Cultures generally assimilate within 1 generation. Why do you just say silly meaningless shit? Why don't your parents tell you when you're being so cringey?

Are you so dumb that you don't realize every cultural interaction isn't because of immigrants?

Take India for example, during British rule, it was a common argument of indian secessionists that british rule was destroying indian culture and forcing them into the cultural norms of british society rather than their own.
Many indian cultural ideas were completed destroyed during this time. When India because independent, their culture started deviating from the new norm pushed on them by the british. It wasn't until their contact weakened that the dominant culture lost influence.

When is this new Star Trek series starting up then?
Any casting info so far?

>>80050002
It was delayed again until early fall.

>>80049608
>He says, strawmaning just as hard, contributing nothing to his argument.

>>80047026
Cool. Go design a replicator system that doesn't operate by the power of make believe and then tell people that we should share everything we have.

>>80049958
It literally isn't. Immigrant cultures have always had a minuscule effect on the overall american culture.
A little sign on a statue doesn't change reality.

>>80049930
Yes human society has never changed at all then. Hold on, I must first bloodlet the homosexual disease out of my body before I make an offering to Pharroh Trump, God made flesh. I mean, I am not a full citizen and therefore don't earn the right NOT to work on his new pyramid.

>>80049930
>Those are technological inventions. Do I literally have to explain the difference between a piece of technology and human society to you?
Do I have to explain to you how internet is literally changing everything about society at an exponentially increasing rate?

>not understanding basically anything about media theory or sociology

>not grasping or actively pretend to ignore the overwhelming difference in media consumption now versus 100 years ago

> human society totally changed cos some stuff was invented
correct
>It's not just the same shit different day.
correct.

glad you came to your senses

>>80049832
Notice how the brainless piece of shit never touches this well thought out response.

>>80050051
>>80049832
samefag

>>80050009
What is that, winter ?

>>80050032
>Immigrant cultures have always had a minuscule effect on the overall american culture.
I don't know how someone becomes this dumb

>>80050051
Maybe because it isn't really that thought out?

>>80047026
How many family members were killed when obama was bombing weddings and supporting 'moderate rebels'

>>80049988
>Take India for example
no.

>>80049873
You need help

>>80049871
>You gamergater alt right cunts are worse than SJWs.

Because we are rational?

>SJWs generally are more concerned with dumb shit like gender pronouns and diversity.

SJWs are want force others follow their silly gender pronouns and to limit free speech. Nothing wrong with diversity, it is genuine diversity, not forced diversity with quotas.

>you alt right cunts want people banned and women in the kitchen.

No. Borders need to be re-established. Refugee issue needs to be solved and first step in that is eliminating illegal economic immigrants, ones that come from safe countries to seek social security gibmedats. Refugees from conflict zones should be promptly returned to their home countries to rebuild 'em once shooting stops.

Also multi-culturalism as ideal should be banned. Immigrants are supposed to assimilate into countries they immigrate to. Cultural policy when it comes to immigration should be forced assimilation and not changing a single thing in any aspect of society to accommodate foreigners.

>>80050041
>Society constantly invents new ways to fuck you over so that means it's changing for the better

Everyone stop responding to this worthless cretin

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>>80050125
>alt right
>rational
Good one.

>>80050073
Tell me about the cultural changes in american culture due to immigrants.
Hard mode: Don't talk about restaurants.

>>80050136
Let me guess, it's "muh degeneracy", right?

*person x* LITERALLY is a buzzword buzzword.
>.jpg reaction image

>>80050125
>Immigrants are supposed to assimilate into countries they immigrate to.
If they pay taxes and follow the law, says who?
>multi-culturalism as ideal should be banned
Rationally, why?
>Cultural policy when it comes to immigration should be forced assimilation
Ah, so you are authoritarian? Gotcha.

>>80050154

They change the religious/social/cultural boundaries by nature of their racial incongruity alone.

It's like saying "how do rats change this cage filled with hamsters and moles? I mean.. come.. on!"

>>80050204
>If they pay taxes and follow the law, says who?

Just outed yourself. If anyone has any self respect they will stop responding to you completely.

>>80047790
>>80047660
You guys are just asking for it, aren't you?

>>80050154
>tell me why water is wet
I am not doing this dumb game

>>80050223
>Just outed yourself.
As...what? Faggot, answer the question or don't post.

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>>80050125
>Because we are rational?
lol
>SJWs are want force others follow their silly gender pronouns and to limit free speech.
that term that nobody actually calls themselves has an apparent platform. nice boogieman faggot. If it wasn't for triggered dipshits giving histrionic weirds so much attention nobody would give a shit about what sex a person wants to be. Aren't you the faggot that doesn't like regulation controlling people?
>No. Borders need to be re-established.
border has been established for quite some time friendo.

>Also multi-culturalism as ideal should be banned.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL muh safespace muh regulations

>>80050165
>L-lol, fucking conservatard. "m-muh degeneracy", haha

No one takes you or people like you seriously.

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>>80050260
>No one takes you or people like you seriously.
>projecting this hard

>>80050260
>nobody takes you seriously
>thread full of /pol/fags sperging out about muh globalism
Kek, you want to bet money on which of us is taken seriously?

>>80048081
Says the /tv/ poster arguing star trek politics

>>80050273
What happened to your trip?
Uht oh.

>>80050290
At least I'm not /pol/

Reminder for everyone here that this image >>80049933
could almost never be applied more perfectly than to threads like this.

>I will most certainly get a cherry picked quote from the image as "proof" that it's all wrong and doesn't apply

>>80049968
DS9 is not Star Trek

>>80046479

Creators should be banned from injecting current politics into old shows via twitter.

>>80050325
Dont worry, many see him for what he is.

>>80046479
SOCIALISM WORKS IN STAR TREK BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A FUCKING REPLICATOR!

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>>80050294
my powers to not not use a trip when shitposting and forget to put it back on when paintposting are very substantial and will not be be questioned

>>80049325
Fields aren't the only part of a farm, dipshit. Those jobs were killed by automation.

>>80050273
is this norman bates or ? ed geen? which serial killer was this?

>>80050204
>Rationally, why?

Multi-culturalism means that host society changes itself to accept all immigrant culture without demanding any changes from immigrants. It means lunacy like accepting child marriages, polygamy, racial quotas, changing police uniforms with stupidity like religious headgear for muslims or sikhs. UK's bulletproof turban study that cost millions is good example multi-culturalism at its finest, because sikhs whined about police being racist in demanding that fire-arms officers should wear ballistic helmet.

>Ah, so you are authoritarian?

In some issues, yes. There should be zero support for immigrants own culture.

>>80050246
>border has been established for quite some time friendo.

Doesn't exactly work that way in Mediterranean.

>muh safespace muh regulations

When multi-culturalism is pubic policy documents it is quite real thing.

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>>80050440
maybe we should be spending 30 billion to prepare for the devastating effect automation will have on the future of our economy instead of a big wall eh?
>>80050462
Lee Harvey. Gonna add a bang flag coming out of the gun so it looks like hes laughing at a hilarious goof.

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>>80047284
Gerbils can fuck off. Straight from the horse's mouth.

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>>80049443
aand he has completely destroyed it during most of his unsupervised tenure.

Luckily Manny Coto could salvage from madness a small amount of sanity from the remnants of Enterprise.

>>80049443

>>80050508
oswald looks like the gay guy who photographed his victims in rather perverse positions

forget his name and i don't use google anymore because the conservatives are in league with aliens who have tapped into all google apis and i cant post thorugh Tor

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>>80050482
>Doesn't exactly work that way in Mediterranean.
Oh so the US is building a Mediterranean border wall?

Where'd all the shills go? This thread was moving fast to the end of the line, it's just "Swervin'" Rick Berman making a passing tweet, it's not like he was leaking vital state information.

>>80050276
>Kek, you want to bet money on which of us is taken seriously?

The anti-globalists, because their position is a sound one.