seriously what was his fucking problem? just take the gun

You sound like a woman.

>>80041069
>muh priciple

He has his moral compass and ideas for which he fought.
And you are a fat pig who wants to live and eat

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>>80041058
Christians and rationality don't mix my dude

>>80041143
This desu. You don't have to agree with Doss's choice but to not even understand it says quite a lot about you OP

>>80041058
Thou shalt not kill. What's the fucking problem?

>>80041552
Then why didn't he just take the fucking discharge?

>>80041058
if I was him I would have just picked up a gun during training. Picking up a gun in training doesn't equal killing someone, he could have just said I'm going to train with the gun, but when I reach Okinawa I'm not going to use any guns.

>>80041552
you don't have to kill to shoot in target practice

>>80041580
He wanted to help

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>join the army and expect not to kill people
>become a cop and expect not to have to arrest people
>become a fireman and expect not to have to put out fires

>>80041637

>what is the draft

>Won't pick up a gun for self-defence or even touch one in training
>Happy to drag around Vince Vaughn on a sledge while he mows down dozens of japanese soldiers

>get a fortune 500 job
>"i conscientiously object to computers"
>will help troubleshoot other users issues

>>80041637
>"thou shalt not disturb the flames"

>>80041580
Because he wanted to be a medic
>>80041596
if he's an objector he shouldn't be forced to shoot in the first place. He won't kill in combat, why require that he shoot dummies?

>>80041693
If he's an objector then why let him join the fucking army? Why put him in a combat role?

>>80041660
>i didn't watch the movie
lmao he volunteers

I was expecting a scene where he had a moral dilemma of picking up a gun to save a friendly soldier or some shit. Guess that's too cliche...

>>80041763
cannon fodder

Leave doss alone already! It's thanks to him you are not living in a country run by mussolini!

>>80041693
Whether he shoots people or not, there will be gunshots going off all the time.
Range time serves the secondary purpose of acclimating people to those sounds.
Furthermore, the army is utilitarian and teaches tons of things that an average soldier won't ever use. The idea is it's better to know and never use a skill than to need the skill and be unable to do it.

>>80041058
About to watch this. Betting that 3 things will happen:
He will give first aid to an enemy soldier
He will convert another soldier
He will save someone who was mean to him, likely converting him

>>80041881
2/3

>>80041880
>force a young genius to the army
>break his career
>teach him how to drive and shoot and clean toilets
Army is a cool thing

>>80041968
>give him free college tuition for fucking around on base for a few years

>>80041763
He wanted to be a medic, and had a passion and talent for it. With a war going on, why not let him join? He saved like 70 people

>>80041637
he explicitly says due to his objector status he thought he would be able to be a combat medic

it's not like he just joined and said WAIT I HAVE TO USE GUNS??? IN THE ARMY??? WELL THIS IS NEWS TO ME! without thinking it through previously

>>80041881
In the movie:
1.5/3

IRL:
0.5/3 the last one

>>80042008
>combat medic
>combat
it's in the fucking name, normal army medics carry a gun and shoot if they have to. if you don't want to fight but still want to help people there's a million things you could do, like volunteering at a hospital back home (like the one shown in the first 20 minutes of the movie)

>>80041058
He apparently didn't read all the parts of bible people killed other people. He likes to pretend they were all peaceful and happy no one dies.

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thou shalt not kill

>>80042060
If he had carried a gun he wouldnt have been so effective on that hill

>>80042178
not the point.

>>80042117
Are you a total idiot or just pretending?

>>80041838
Benito Thiccolini did nothing wrong

>doesn't carry a gun
>has no problem kicking a grenade to blow up people

autism

>>80041058
Although I don't agree with the man's pacifism, I absolutely agree with the principle of freedom of conscience. I fucking hate coercion, especially of conscience. Too many florists and bakers are having their lives ruined for refusing to participate in ceremonies that contradict their values.

>>80043404
Yeah he showed real dedication and wasn't just trying to be a draft dodger. The florists/bakers are memes though. It's only gay people that cross the line for them apparently.

>>80041058

This was the dumbest movie I watched all year. What the hell was Mel thinking?

>>80043476
It was based on a true story and pretty accurate to all eye witness accounts. Why not celebrate a true hero with moral conviction?

>The Army recruiter lied to him.

Seriously though, has any Army recruiter ever actually done that?

>>80041119
You're right. Men have principles and dignity. Women do not. Thank you for proving his point

>>80043476
You're not allowed to post on Shabbos, Moishe.

>>80043783
i hope you're joking

>>80043783
I've never seen it happen with my buddies, but I imagine that they did back in the day. They'll tell you whatever you want so you'll enlist.

>>80043460
>It's only gay people that cross the line for them apparently.
Because their business deals with issues that are currently controversial. If people warmed up to incest marriage I wouldnt be surprised if they refused to serve them too.

>doing my conscription right now
>im on a medic course
>there's like 3 guys there doing unarmed service

what does it mean lads

>>80042060
>>80041637
They've allowed conscientious objectors to serve in the army as medics and other support personnel for a long fucking time, even before this movie takes place. When he volunteered he was registered as a CO, the Army was well aware of him and told him he could serve.

>>80042060
Combat medic = medic in combat
Not medic that has to participate in taking lives during combat

>>80043783
Yes, they lie all the time. As long as you sign the papers, by the time you realized you've been fucked you're already in Basic and you'll never see your recruiter again.

>>80041592
He'll get shit from his superiors or peers for suddenly deciding not to carry a gun in a combat zone when they had no idea he was a CO the entire time. Probably would have been a lot worse than the hazing he got in training.

>>80044646
This movie is about one objector that saved dozens of his fellow soldiers lives single handedly. They're not there for combat, they're there in a support role.

>>80044326
they serve cakes to white supremacists

>>80044646
If everyone were an objector there would be no lives lost whatsoever

>>80044738
Source?

>>80044766
Me. I serve cakes to white supremacists.

>>80045009
>kicking grenade into your enemy's face is OKAY
He kicked them away from his bros. No slant eyes were hurt by his grenade bicycle kick.

>>80045009
he kicked the grenade straight into the air it wasn't aimed at anyone. It isn't clear whether it even killed the Jap that was nearby either

>>80044583
Medics didn't carry weapons during WW2 at all, whether they were COs or not.

>>80045159
>pretending that you can aim how you kick a grenade in the middle of a fire fight

This movie is literally healsluts: the movie

>>80042020
Pretty sure he saved multiple japs IRL?

>>80042249
Both

>>80045634
Pretty sure that even if he did someone else just shot them right after he left

>>80041637
what are you fucking retard?

>>80043786
Yeah, an you value principles and dignity over self interest a priori. Me and that anon you were answering consider self interest more important a priori. So this is you vs us situation and since I value myself over you (a priori) I'm right and you're dumb.

>>80043786
Only people who cant get laid hate women

>you shall not kill
>feel free to help your buddies who are killing others though LMAO

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>>80043786
u go 2 /r9k/

>>80041058
I don't know, but he looks like a faggot numale cuck. I'm sure even in WW2 they had their share of these.

why did every jap soldier just fall over and conveniently die?

>MUH RELIGION
>MUH PACIFISM

>>80041510
Considering the end game of it all Im going to just keep filling my trough.

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So it is true that many /tv/ goers do not even watch the movie they are discussing.

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>>80041058
seriously what was their fucking problem?
just let him not take the gun

>>80041058
guys his choice was not just a religious one
they have shown why he won't ever touch a gun again
did you even watch the movie
it was shit but that part was explained well

>>80045948
Literally in the movie.
>"He even rescued a few Japs"
>"They didn't 'make it' "

>>80048582
>WAH, I almost killed my brother when I was play fighting
>Therefore, I'd better not kill those goddamned heathens from nip land
>No siree
Shit logic tbqh

>>80048821
no, he was about shot his father with a gun...

>>80048879
Which was influenced by his actions as a child.

>>80044932
touché

>>80048893
oh why dr freud

>>80041679
This.

What about another medic that refused to accept plasma to treat him? What is his fucking problem?

Wait didn't he make a promise to God that he'd never hold a gun again after that incident with his father? Upholding promises to God > doing what your officers tell you

>>80041993
and this gives you power over me?

>>80048536
it was a war

>>80048517
I turned it off half way through because i thought it was a shit movie.

>>80048536
>skinny kid doesn't want to carry a gun
>we have to trust him to save us even though he's a pain in the ass
>we have to risk him getting caught and give out intel
>he doesn't know how to fight or protect himself

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Cast a better actor for the part, /tv/

>>80051065

sleezy looking motherfucker

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>>80051065

>>80050993
yea, just bully this kid even more instead of actually training him
inb4 call howard stark

> not knowing that Germans would have shot his ass to pieces no fucks given
> literally the movie monuments men they were just fucking trying to save art guess what bitches still gotta be trained.

>>80050771
Honourable dispray

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>>80041838
>>80042820

Lol my names Benito to honour my grandfather and my nan got SPAGGETIED by him, am I his great grandson?

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He was playing Friendly in a comp server

>>80048536

They knew how ruthless the Japanese were and the thought of someone not having a gun would seem absurd to them.

>>80043783
Every fucking day.

>>80043783
not really read the fine print all the time
then read between the lines
then ask lots of questions
then get his cell
then sign the papers
problem solved

>>80041119
SDA
>>80041143

>SDA
>principaled
pick one.
fuck those retards. no meat, no fun, FOLLOW SOME CRAZY WOMAN THAT GOT HIT IN THE FEAD WITH A FUCKING ROCK'S MAGICAL VISIONS. those are the least of it. they act like tha woman was holier than god, hen she was a smelly old temperance movement clitlicker.

they are some of the most godless modern pharasees you will meet.
>>80051065
adventist/10

>>80041058
>ITT: Women and Jews

>>80043783
army recruiters lie a lot to buff their recruiting numbers

>>80041058
watched the whole thing through. did he ever find that mower? you could tell he really wanted to save one.

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>>80051065

>>80041679
Unlike liberals, he didn't have to force his beliefs on others to give purpose to his life.

I liked the film, but that central moral point was stupid.

>I'll help people kill people, but I won't kill anyone myself, so I'm cool.

It's like those people that go on Come Dine With Me who are vegetarian or who don't like seafood, or can't eat green things, and everybody has to cater to their complexes by preparing an extra meal.

Just play the fucking game or get out and do something else where your attention seeking can be more easily ignored.

>>80050991
Shalom!

>>80051158
They have to make sure they send to combat little to no people who become liabilities and put others' lives and the mission at risk.

>show me your indian war cry

Based Mel does it again.

>>80041058
i dont understand why he couldnt just do the firing practise. its not killing anyone. just dont kill anyone when youre at war fuckwad

I dont care what anyone says, Vince Vauhn can fucking act.

>>80053831
I think you nailed it

>HURR WHY DOESNT HE PICK UP A GUN
>HE CAN JUST NOT KILL PEOPLE
He doesnt use a gun because of his father, not because of his religious beliefs.
Jesus christ did you people actually watch the fucking flick?