The hobbit was a mistake

>>79982932
CGI was a mistake.

Think about this: has there ever been a character or structure, that was CGI, and couldn't be improved by being practical effect? It doesn't matter the complexity or the cost to build it.

Is there anything that you can honestly say, that i miles better in CGI and it is pointless to make a practical effect for it because will never surpass the CGI counterpart?

>>79983675
Gollum would have looked like jerky shit as a TESB Yoda or Jen from The Dark Crystal-style practical puppet and the endless waist-up shots that would be necessary to hide his puppet-ness would have robbed the character from the cat-like physicality that defined his role.

>>79982932
You were a mistake

>>79983675
Davey Jones

>>79983675
Davy Jones would've looked ass practically, the nuances of all the little tentacles would've been near-impossible to reproduce.

>>79983887
Guy in a costume, he didn't need to look like an ayylmao

>>79983887

This, most of the CG in the Hobbit looks great but it's just used in a retarded way

>>79982932

I think people forget that The Hobbit story is tonally alot different to LOTR. I can see what Jackson was going for with these movies, he just needed more time to work on them. It shouldn't have been the dark serious movie like the ones before were

>>79983675
Are you fucking retarded cunt?

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sometimes i like to think of a world where jackson and his team got proper time to make the hombit as best as it could have been

Hobbit > Prometheus

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>>79984053
>most of the CG in the Hobbit looks great

>>79984053

>This, most of the CG in the Hobbit looks great

I could not disagree more.

>>79982932
what video game is this?

>>79983675
>Gollum from LotR
>Sauron's Eye from LotR
>Davey Jones from PotC
>T-1000 from Terminator 2
>Most things from The Matrix
>

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>>79983887
They could've just had an actor with makeup like in the deleted scene.

>>79984630
>everything from Avatar

>>79982932
>he breathes fire and can create fire inside himself at any given time
>Dude haha let's kill him with heat, haha what could possibly go wrong lmao

The concept of this scene is far more offensive to me than the CGI.

>>79982932
what videogame is this?

>>79984793
this senpai. should have stuck to the books. it was way more suspenseful in the books

HOBBIT KINO

Maple films Hobbit edit
http://www.maple-films.com/the-hobbit-fan-edit

HOBBIT KINO

>>79984925
Literally nothing wrong with this scene.

>>79983954
>Implying they would have to do the exact same thing they did with CGI

Could have just used some makeup and had the actor do his job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL3lo2gdB5M

>>79984793
>>79984848
That climax was created a few months before the premiere as a last minute thing. Another tradegy caused by the three movie split.

>>79982932
What do you boyos think about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__N7mt5Clwg

WE

>>79984961
Then those dumb fucks should've just ended it like that section of the books ended.

I get that Hackson had no time to do anything, but that doesn't excuse him stuffing absolutely retarded shit wherever he could.

>>79984873
i like this edit. theres a whole bunch of them out there, i remember i saw one that was even better than this but i forgot what it was called.

>>79983929
>>79983887
>>79984630
For most of these, there is a a base to which they added the CGi as to why it works so well, this includes avatar. There is a practical effect, its called the actor themselves in mocap being enhanced. Full cgi no actor enters cartoon territory. Treat CGI as makeup for practical props and you are using it right

>>79984925
MR. LONGBOTTOM

>>79985129
Probably the Tolkien edit

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>>79982932

It gets worse

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>>79984925
>>79985161
10 POINTS FROM GRYFFINDOR MR POTTER

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>>79982932
BRAVO CGI
BRAVO

>>79985199
Fuck i'm glad I never watched this shit.

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This was done 18 years ago

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>Go north. Find the Dunedain. There’s a young ranger amongst them. You should meet him. His father Arathorn was a good friend. His son might grow to be a great one. He is known in the wild as Strider. His true name... you must discover for yourself. Legolas! Your mother loved you.

Purest Kino actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-fSVZS2VyU

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>went to watch BOTFA with normie Chad cousin
>he laughed at the Alfrid scenes
>he clapped and cheered at the Legolas and Tauriel scenes
>after the movie he kept telling me how LOTR would be better if Legolas did more "badass shit"

D-do normies genuinely like this shit?

>>79985510
Friendly reminder that "hurr Aragorn would of been a child" is not an argument because the movies skip the years Frodo spent in the Shire after Bilbo's 111th Birthday

>>79985582
This scene was actually good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhzBsDAG8CU

>>79985582
Dude get it? He ran out of mana lmao

Said it before but there was no choice to be made between practicals and CG. Jackson didn't have near enough preproduction time as compared with LotR and if you want to use practical effects they have to be completely finished before you start filming. CG can be done concurrently with filming and for that reason he had to use CG. Blame the studio for not realizing they needed to push the release back after Del Taco bailed.

>>79985583
He's not wrong. Legolas was so wooden in the LOTR films, while he had more a of personality in the books.

>>79982932

>Hackson proudly admits he came up with the river of gold surfing scene two days before the movie was to be released and that's why it looks like shit

HACKSOOOOOOOOOON

>>79985583
Yes, they actually do. While my gf at least disliked the disaster that was BotFA she thinks the first two are legit good movies.

My best mate's gf even likes the Hobbit trilogy more than LotR because "it's not that long and boring".

Recently I forgot about that when I was over and absolutely shit-talked the Hobbit movies, resulting in some weird looks from her, kek.

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>tfw it was real ;_;

>>79982932
Smaug was so out of the league of this shit flick trilogy it's not even funny.

>>79985704
It was Radagast's staff, which he claims has some issues. Radagast didn't really rely much on magic anyway.

>>79985737
nobody hat anything resembling a personality in the books, they all talk in the same autistic tolkien voice. that's probably the one department where the movies actually improve on the books

>>79985199
Do you have a webm of the warg wolf whatever things jumping and running around some hills in the distance? That shot was even worse.

Oh and the GoPro shots. Literal fucking GoPro shots.

>>79985595
But go North where? They're already as far north as you can get before stepping on ice caps (or even falling off the Earth since the world is flat). And in any case just because they skipped scenes ahead doesn't mean the timeline is different.

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>>79985787
nah he ran out of mana, do you even game bro?

>>79985809
>they all talk in the same autistic tolkien voice
You obviously haven't read it because Tolkien was really good at setting tones, not just for the characters' personalities but based on their surrounding situation; the Frodo chapters read almost entirely different than the Aragorn chapters.

>>79985044

How did these faggots even get the rights to Lord of the Rings? This isn't even close.

>>79985809
You're an idiot. This guy >>79985904 is correct. Tolkien wrote great dialogue too.

>>79985199

Which mid-2000s deviantart account is this from?

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OUTTA OUR WAY BOOKFAG FUCKING SHITS

>>79985966
The complaint basically comes from the fact that none of the characters behave like modern douchebags

>>79985044
why do the game industry insist on adding NIGGERS and WHORES to every SINGLE FUCKING GAME
RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE

>>79985840

The Earth isn't flat by the third age.

>>79985044
>1:21
She looks like Kerrigan from Starcraft.
>1:36
Nazguls fly like death eaters

>>79983675
>muh practical effects
kys

>>79984716
Is this in extended edition at all?

>>79985682
you can tell they kinda toned down radagast in the second film cos he was too over the top in the first one

>>79985044

>Middle Earth
>black knight

k

>>79986431
The high pitched voice is what really killed him, along with that stupid pothead scene.

>>79986489
I was playing LOTRO last night and noticed some of the guards in Minas Tirith were literally black. Have you ever felt like you had to insert white characters in African/middle eastern/South American settings?

The scary part about this is that it implies the writers and animators don't know how things melt

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>>79985199
holy shit it looks like a budget wow cinematic

>>79985199
the ice looks fine, the characters moving not so much

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>>79986539
resident evil 5 added white people to the zombified african villages to avoid being called a racist game

I get that he needed more time to work with them but he also added ALOT of retarded unnecessary shit.

Unless he was forced to make three movies with a movie and half worth of material.

>>79986539
How is lotro? I tried to get into it once as a Man of the West but couldn't get into it.

Do all races start in the same zone or no? Which one has the best starting zone and what's the funnest class?

>>79986681
Man, and this is all because of American bullshit that started racial politics.

>>79986589
That's an insult to WoW cinematics

>>79986574
how do giant gold dwarf statues hastily created usually melt?

My favorite fuck you scene to the fans is the scene with Thrain and Gandalf in Dol Guldar

After making such a big deal in the first and second about knowing where he is, Jackson ends it like this for fuck sake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsXP_s98MEg

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You'll realise that the good parts of the movies happened when they followed the book. Imagine what a Hobbit movie would be like if they removed all the added fanfic and focused on adapting the book chapter by chapter. A 3-hour fantasy adventure, more light-hearted than Lotr. That would truly be great. In another timeline, I guess.

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>implying this isn't a great scene

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Is this the height of modern cinema?

>>79986811
The men start together in the same zone as hobbits, and the elves start in the same zone as the dwarves. Neither are particularly interesting, the game gets better as you go to new areas.
It's a run of the mill themepark MMO and the only thing it has going for it is that it's Middle Earth. I don't find the game particularly fun, especially if you have no one to group up with. Everything you hear about the community is only half true, as it has as many trolls as any free game.

>>79986896
I'm surprised every death scene in five armies wasn't the wilhelm scream.

>>79986907
Nothing could fix Martin Freeman's acting as Bilbo. He was bored and uninterested every step of the way, and never developed past that. Also Gandalf was way too depressive this time.

CGI should only be used for putting stuff in where it doesn't exist, like a castle on a hilltop in the background, something static. Effectively like a matte painting.

CGI characters should be used very sparingly, as they almost NEVER work. Gollum is the exception to the rule.

>>79985044
Looks like shit

>>79986944
>It's a run of the mill themepark MMO and the only thing it has going for it is that it's Middle Earth
This desu. I tried it once and it was nothing special, though i have to say it was very comfy. The character animations really put me off. The way they jump and run is weird.

>>79986304
I am 99% sure it's not.

I am trying my best to watch these movies. It is not going well. I liked the first hour of An Unexpected Journey. Then Peter Jackson shits on my tv...endlessly.

Why the hell are there so many characters with apidose neckmeat? The Dwarf,Goblin King it goes on.

>>79986907
There was a great 4 hour edit on Youtube a while ago, though it's probably gone now. But that was really great.

>>79985315
>B-but his eyes aren't far enough apart.

What a retarded excuse that was. The left is a video game, the right is real. I don't look at it and think "that's a guy in a suit" but I will always look at CGI and know it's CGI because I have eyes and a brain. I'm not that smart but most humans with functioning eyes and brains will know when they are being tricked.

>>79986931
We threw crab legs at the kinoplex screen until they replayed this part.

>>79986944
>>79987022
What is a "themepark MMO"?

Watch the Tolkien Edit. Look it up, it's alot better.

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>>79987002
>CGI should only be used for putting stuff in where it doesn't exist, like a castle on a hilltop in the background, something static.
This. Game of Thrones does this very well. I really like the shots of castles in the background while the characters are just walking around, and then they shift to a built set once they get to the courtyard or the interior. Feels very organic.

CGI just makes things look too clean and overproduced, that's my main gripe with it.
All that bloom lighting in The Hobbit didn't help it either, it made it look even more like a video game.

>>79986907
How ironic that you complain about accuracy and then post that image when Bilbo didn't actually witness Thorin's death in the novel.

>>79987033
watch the fanedit. its legitimately better than the original. some anon posted the link to one somewhere in this thread.

>>79987103
WoW clones basically. Nothing new happens with the quests, you just keep repeating them.

>>79987148
that entire scene was set in a different location but it was close to the books thematically, or at least more so compared to the rest of the movie.

>>79987185
I'm... unsure how that relates to themeparks.

>>79985044
pure cringe

>>79987213
another word for run-of-the-mill, i guess

>>79986931
I was watching this four 3 minutes before I realized it was looping. Thought it was just a long bridge.

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>>79985199
Much improvement in 20 years!

>>79987213
Themeparks if full of attractions with set themes, contrast to sandbox where you have more options.

>>79987213
google says its just waiting in line to do player vs player fights.

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>>79984102
>we will never see the designs Del Toro had planned for his version of The Hobbit

>>79986589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ
sure it does

>>79985044
>tfw now I always think of Overlord everytime I see Sauron

>>79987305
Good. Del Toro's style is plain ugly.

>>79987213

Themepark in the sense that you walk around a big unchanging world and go on the equivalent of rides where unconnected things happen. The alternative model for an MMO would be something like Eve Online where the world is constantly being changed by player-driven events.

>>79985044
Oh God why...
So Shadow of Mordor is going to be a franchise now? And they just HAD to base it around some Dunedan making a ring of power? They couldn't do something more creative like campaigns in the east with the blue wizards?

>>79986304
there's an extended gollum scene with practical effects that merges into CGI gollum at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8KtfHdBNrw&t=1m40s

My personal favorite

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>>79982932
By Grimnir what is this?.

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>>79987552
>thorin vs azog
>the only fanfic aspect of botfa that i was looking forward to
>turns out to be an anticlimatic fight atop a waterfall instead of the two of them charging at each other with their armies
goddammit even when they add the fanfic bullshit they still can't get it right ffs

Would molten gold even hurt a dragon? Wouldn't it just be like a warm bath or some shit?

>>79987699
It didn't hurt him, but it really pissed him off.

>>79987492
In which movie?

>>79987271
>>79987289
>>79987343
Oh okay, this makes more sense then. I was just confused because I like themeparks and it seemed like a weird thing to use as a criticism.

>>79987699
it would be extremely painful

>>79986907
All those shot collages suck. You can literally make the same shit with Birdemic.

>>79987492
are you referring to the opening scene flashback in return of the king?

>>79986907
>all that lense flare

Jesus Christ for what purpose
>>79986987
Glad I'm not the only one. He stumbled on his words so much and nothing felt heavy even when it was supposed to

>>79982932
No it wasn't. Dividing it into 3 movies instead of 2 was the real mistake. The first Hobbit is pure kino

>>79988211
He just does the same stupid deadpan snark routine he does in all his roles; there's nothing witty about a deadpan expression. It's not Bilbo.

>>79982932
WTF am i watching here WHAT THE FUCK

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>>79987847
He's a big dragon.

>>79982932
This would not have been possible or practical (hue) with practical effects.

The CGI is just really fucking terrible though.

>>79985253
tes IV: oblivion

>>79986908
>>79986931

That Legolas guy can just do it all, can't he?

>>79988443
>make a chocolate statue
>melt it

there, done

The [Legolas performs unthinkable balletic military action and succeeds] schtick was already tired as fuck by the time he slid off that oliphaunt's trunk and smirked at the camera, this block hopping upside down eagle shit is just a tragedy. A fucking tragedy.

[Legolas does 6 million backflips and fires an arrow so precise it splits Sauron's DNA in two and he splashes into a puddle of guts on the floor. Legolas smirks at the camera. He didn't even get his hair messed up. ]

[Legolas kicks a grain of sand so hard it flies up an orc's nostrils and blows his brains out]

>>79985134
>it doesn't count as CGI if I say so, practical effects are better

You guys are faggots, when you see bad practical effect people don't go on rants about bad practical effects look and how they ruined cinema. CGI is neither good nor bad, it's a tool used to make visuals, the things made with the tool can be bad but doesn't make the tool bad.

>>79989211
>not all cgi

>>79987484
Do you really expect them to know that there even are two blue Wizards?

>make thread
>get no replies
>leave
>come a few hours later
>thread get 100 replies
I hate when this happens

>>79983887

Gollum was 100x creepier in the ROTK opening when andy serkis was just wearing makeup. When he became cgi he turned cute.

>>79985931
>They didn't get the rights and that's why everything is fan fiction.

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> imagine being christopher tolkien
> father told you these stories as a kid
> brought both of you closer together
> entrusts his work to you after his death
> father trusted you above all his other family and friends
> argue his legitimacy and maintain his legacy for years
> see pic related

"I cant wait until Chris dies so we can get a Silmarillion movie"

>>79990030
Ignore implication arrow

>>79985315
gothmog was the coolest fucking orc.

although i liked how in the hobbit the orcs spoke their own language, if they spoke english as well it would have added character. the cgi over costumes didnt help take them from reality either.

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>>79989955
>make hobbit topic
>not expecting a comfy hate thread

>>79990050
that is so bad it's unbelievable

>>79990120
>i liked how in the hobbit the orcs spoke their own language

Why do bumfuck mountain orcs on the other side of middle-earth speak the language of Mordor?

>>79986048
>book
they hid in the barrels down the stream to escape mirkwood
>movie
they white water rafted the barrels down the river while legolas and the dwarves fought an insane amount of orcs and did crazy acrobatics

>>79986896
i remember being so pissed off in the theatre watching gandalf and ghost sauron fight.
its just so retarded

>>79990205
they followed sauron considering he was also in dol guldur.

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>>79985044
I miss the times when Monolith made shooters and horror games.

>>79990322
You disliked that scene? I actually thought it was one of the best non-book scenes.

They explain the gold in the extended edition documentaries. It looks weird because they decided to keep the golden colour and shine. They show snippets of realistic molten gold shaders in these scenes.
There is nothing wrong with the CGI, it's the artistic decision to keep it golden and reflective that ruined these scenes for some.

>>79990845
gandalf doesnt go around casting wave spells and shit. i liked having sauron show up as the necromancer but the fight was unecessarily cinematic.
if he pulled out a sword or did incantations like against the balrog it would be more in character. in the hobbit he ltierally just starts spinning his staff like a ninja and then having magic come out like a videogame.

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>>79990845
That whole segment was straight outta Dark Souls.

>>79991006
>the fight was unecessarily cinematic.
I dunno, in the film the whole Gandalf v Sauron seemed more like a battle of wills; Gandalf tried to escape but when confronted he put up a fight, clearly believing he could at least hold his own against the Necromancer. When Sauron defeats him the visions he shows him are taunt-like, a full reveal of his return to strength.

>>79989124
kek

>>79982932
This webm really should be posted every day.

>>79991006
What are you talking about? While fighting Sauron Gandalf basically just stood there pretty motionlessly while his magic and Saurons black cloudy one pushed back and forth for a while until Sauron won.

>>79991130
but Dark Souls is the pinnacle of videokino so what's your fucking problem

>>79984630
there were only 6 cgi shots of the T1000 btw

>>79985044
Awful, awful, awful.

I fucking hate WB.

This shit is pure evil.

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>>79990050
>mfw I have close friends that think Christopher Tolkien is a cunt for not allowing there to be more movies around the Tolkien world

>>79984848
>>79984961
how was it in the books?

>>79988211
>all that lense flare

because it's an adventure movie with magic and shit, faggot. The lense flare is there to make it feel like one as well, which it does.

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>>79982932
>molten metal
>its yellow and not red/black/glowing blinding bright
its so confusing since you cant tel which parts are solid and which molten and at what point the transition happens

>>79992113
Christopher Tolkien is a cunt for making a living out of publishing things out of his father's trash bin.
His notes are also shamefully bad.

>>79992113
>Christopher Tolkien will die soon
>Eventually his kids or their kids will sell out

It's like poetry, it rhymes.

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>>79985044
>all those positive comments

Surely these are paid for?
Right?

>>79983675
>I think i'm so smart but i'm really a retard

Dumb fantasy movie with dragons and shit look to fake for you you Einstein.

>>79985595
in LOTR Aragorn is like 88 years old, the hobbit takes place 60 years before that. Aragorn would of been in his 20s

>>79982932
Lol your a dragon dude lol like spread your wings and fly away from the gold lol

>>79985044
>/pol/ is triggered yet again

>>79987791
I was referring to this
>>79987954

which is a different looking gollum than this one >>79984716 sorry

>>79986931
Why does he attack that orc with his crotch???

>>79987575
just another grudge to be put in the book

>>79985510
60 years later. he was 83. hed be 23. good math

>>79985188
>>79987337
>>79987305
>>79985129
>>79984873
>>79985129
Would the edits just be the entire AUJ, the first 2/3 of DoS then the rest(Smaug/BoFA) as a 15 minute battle? Cuz that's be Kino and True to the books. Also, AUJ is practically G Del Toro's movie, look at the writing and the characters, its exactly like Pacific Rim meets LotR. yes, The First Hobbit feels more like GDT than PJ.

>>79982932
>oh shit a dragon is attacking us, better fire up some ancient gold forge and quickly build a gigantic dwarf statue made of molten gold and melt it on top of the dragon.
>g-good plan

>>79986931
dwarf construction standards leave a lot to be desired

>>79987133
This is a very similar approach to how they did it olden times with matte paintings.

>>79982932
fucking terrible cgi

>>79993707
It's kind of sad that this out of context behind the scenes clip is way cooler than the actual scene their filming for.

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>>79982932

weee

>>79983675
Every ape character in the rebooted Apes movies.

Some of the apes don't look quite as real as Caesar or Koba, but they wouldn't be improved by practical effects either.

>>79983675
>muh practical effects

fuck off reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL6hp8BKB24

Our these the only good scenes in the trilogy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRUBe2RTq74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5rhgSylpH8

>>79997622
What weird about the Gollum scene in AUJ is that Bilbo never mentions his Gollum encounter to Gandalf or anyone else, yet in Fellowship, Gandalf seems to know exactly what happened.

Biggest disappointment of my life

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>>79996853
>>79990050
>>79986931
>>79986908
>>79985199
>>79982932

BRAVO HACKSON

>>79987317
>Wotlk cinematic comes out
>Never seen CG done so well in my life
>Look at it now
>Start seeing the flaws, particularly in cloth and ice

How long until this looks like this >>79987249 ?

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>>79983887
>ould have robbed the character from the cat-like physicality that defined his role.

>>79985469
Difference is that's a dude in a costume.
Who the fuck thought CG orcs was a good idea?

>>79983675
>It doesn't matter the complexity or the cost to build it.

Kek.

>millions on practical effects
or
>thousands on CGI

You are a literal moron. Of course practical effects will usually look better? Are you actually retarded though? You've taken away literally the main point as to why CGI is used over practical effects, time constraints and money.

Holy shit. I can assure you, 100%, you do not see al the CGI that is CGI, most of it is so good you just don't notice, you only see the most blatant cases of CGI usage, see this thread.

>>79997886
when has a prequel ever been good?

>>79990050
I still don't understand what;s happening here, why are their heads stuck together??

>>79986931
RULES OF NATURE

>>79984102

I think blaming the studio and their lack of commitment as the problem. Jackson ultimately moved forward with a bad script or a good plan which he basically admitted to later.

If he had said hey, give me more time and money or I walk, the studio would have agreed.

It should have never been stretched into three movies.

>>80001949

I don't think you can blame the studio*

goddamit

>>80001949
>If he had said hey, give me more time and money or I walk, the studio would have agreed.
Do you understand literally anything about the process of how the directors were chosen? Past Del Toro dropped and Jackson took over?

Because you know, you are literally wrong. New Line fucked everything.

Jackson WAS first in line to direct The Hobbit. Why wouldn't he be? Bringing on a new director to film a series New Line knows they have someone who can do it is just ridiculous, so why?

NEW LINE ARE HOLLYWOOD JEWS. They jewed their ways out of many contracts and did not pay where they were meant to, Jackson had a contract which said he was able to bring in his own auditors and audit their practices, which he did, which the boss of newline took great offence to, so he kicked Jackson off. Bought Taco on, and then we go from there, Taco dropped out again and Jackson was bought in because they simply had no other option, it had to be made, a shit movie is better than no movie when they put all this time into planning.

I mean, why the fuck are you trying to spout an opinion you don't know anything about?

>>79984107

lol no way. And hated Prometheus.

>>79997622
The Acorn scene was great, so was Thorin's death

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What did Hackson mean by this?

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>>79986931
>mfw he hurricanrans him

Who the fuck saw that and said yup this looks good.

>>79985044

Now imagine that you're Christopher Tolkien watching this happen.

>>79985044

Oh god...the terrible dog Latin chanting...the out of place Balrog...the stray Haradrim...a new ring of power...teleporting Nazgul...

Cast it into the fire/10

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>>79990027
And 500x creepier in the books, in Fellowship at least when Gandalf talks about searching for him and that he would sneak into people's homes and eat their babies after he came out of the mountain looking for the ring, and the part where Frodo notices him stalking them through Moria although that is in the movie.

>>'The Wood-elves tracked him first, an easy task for them, for his trail was still fresh then. Through Mirkwood and back again it led them, though they never caught him. The wood was full of the rumour of him, dreadful tales even among beasts and birds. The Woodmen said that there was some new terror abroad, a ghost that drank blood. It climbed trees to find nests; it crept into holes to find the young; it slipped through windows to find cradles.'

So... is the Hobbit Trilogy this generation's Star Wars Prequels?

>Cash-grab sequels to beloved original trilogies
>Mediocre visuals, lazily over-reliant on CGI
>Poor, disjointed storytelling
>Cringy love story subplots
>Clever writing exchanged for visual humor and gag characters
>Attempts at upping the ante come off as inept and pathetic
>At least two of the three films are totally superfluous
>Made you question the talent of the director

God damn it Hackson

>>79986811
One of the only reasons to play it is for the lore/worldbuilding, it's really well done and things are left as close to the books as possible with lots of shout outs to the LOTR movies as well. For instance, Tom Bombadil actually gets a couple of appearances

It's also pretty feasible to play through single player, but there's nothing special about the game mechanics in particular that sets it apart from anything else.

Most races have different starting zones, but Elves/Dwarves and Hobbits/Men kind of end up in the same general area

As for classes, it depends on what you want to do, really. Some are more feasible than others if you're not playing with friends

>>79982932
Eh, at least they got the single scene (Bilbo meets Smaug) to an acceptable level for me. The part with the ring was a little dumb, though

>>80003974
it's still more entertaining to watch than the SW prequels

but the memes in the prequels are noticeably better

>>79992323
None of it happens in the book, none of the Dwarves go into the mountain while Smaug is inside it, they send Bilbo with his magic ring. His conversation is a bit better, the strange power of speech and hypnosis Dragons have comes into play a little and Bilbo has to speak in riddles to try and avoid revealing too much.

Smaug pretty much deduces everything anyway and goes berserk because he's so sickly obsessed with his treasure, he flies down to Lake town in a wrath and pretty much destroys the entire town before Bard manages to shoot him in the heart due to his legendary archery skill and not a giant metal dwarf bow.

>>80003643
Oh God, no

>>79985199
Jesus, how do I not remember it being this bad?

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>>79997622
I only watched half of the first one, why are there a couple dwarfs that look like humans instead of dwarfs?

>>80000227
>wotlk came out in 2008
>nearly 10 years old
>see the flaws
REALLY NOW?

>>79985044
Not surprised this got a sequel considering so many people like the batman games.

>>79985044
Why do I feel absolutely nothing watching this?

How am I supposed to feel?

>>79985199
thats not finished right?

>>79985315
The original mountain in GoT left the show to do this just to get cut out, kek.

>>80005547

It was shown in theaters

>>79985582

I vomited inside my mouth

>>79982932
Why does the gold statue look so shit?

>>79986896

This makes me question just how much Jackson's "deep-seated love of the source material and lore" TM

>the gold solidifies then magically melts down for no reason

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>>79985044

At first I thought he was joking, but people actually think this way. This is why they don't have to put effort into games anymore.

>>80001362

cyclops has a horn

the dwarf brained himself

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>>79985044
>the one thing that could challenge sauron was their own even COOLER ring

look i know subtly is hard to do in a hack n' slash action game...but fucking come on now. If you're going to take anything away from LOTR, please observe that lust for power corrupts even the purist intentions.

it just feels weird seeing this humble pastoral man's magnum opus get twisted commercialized so heavily about for the sake of vidya.

>>79983675
>Think about this: has there ever been a character or structure, that was CGI, and couldn't be improved by being practical effect?
Half the action shots in Raimi and Snyder cape movies.

>>80006505
in the context of everything, is it really weird? nothing is sacred for the jews, everything european is to be subverted, perverted, destroyed

>>80001071
>Who the fuck thought CG orcs was a good idea?
Me. I don't care as long as it looks good. District 9 looked good.

>>79993798
>>79985044>>79987484
>>80003760
>>80005466
>>80006111
>>80006505
this is what all AAA games are, this isn't even a bad example. video games in the 10's are worse than capeshit. no originality allowed. no complexity allowed. no difficulty allowed

everything is cinematic
everything is a movie
source material is a framing device
the only thing that matters is how it looks
gameplay is wasted resources when you can earn 10/10 scores by throwing in a black person and a woman to appease far-left review websites.

video games are fucking dead.

>>79984873
It was disjointed. Good up to Lake Town and Lonely Mountain stuff, but around there the scenes start to become a mess. Still preferable to the CGI mess the originals are, but still hard to watch.

It almost feels like the original third movie wasn't completed and they just CGI'd the fuck out of it to make it seem like a complete movie. So many scenes where they don't even try to have anything practical, like the foreground elves/dwarves are obvious video game cgi, instead of paid actors with costumes. Just a bunch of short cuts that reek of a hurried production.

>>79985809
>there were no wacky comic relief characters or forced love interests. The characters all acted like grown adults with noble purpose. It was so BORING

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>>79986907
Jesus Christ why did they use so much fucking bloom?

It would look a zillion times better if they just toned it down to almost nothing.

>>79987148
Are you repeating shit you heard online to make it seem like you read the book?
After the battle Bilbo has a conversation with Thorin on his death bed in which Thorin apologizes for being an asshole.

>>80004942
love interest for kate from lost, they have to be hot

>>79982932
part of the gold flows upwards in that...

>>79982932
man this CGI are about as good as a mid 2000's microwave mac an cheese ad

>>79983675
the bugs from star ship troopers

other than the brain bug

>>80001362
the dwarf has a bit of axe stuck in his head

>>79982932
so how exactly did that molten gold engulf that giant dragon? from that angle it seemed he could have simply flapped his wings and jumped back so that the gold wouldn't get to him

dumb as fuck

>>80006381
not only can i tell from the webm that he does not have a horn he clearly has two eyes

Desolation of Smaug was fine

>muh barrel scene
suck my dick

>>80007925
>suck my dick
Watch the scene again

>>79986931
>Is this the height of modern cinema?
BING
BING
YAH
WAHHO
1 UP YEEEEPEEEE

>>79982932
CGI was a mistake.

>>80006899
Fucking THIS.

x100,000,000

Spoken better than /v/.

The AAA video games industry has become Hollywood, but even worse, since movie critics actually take their passion seriously and some actually don't get paid off by production companies.