stop watching horror movies

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Stop bullying Antifa.

>>79975748
Aay aaayo leh aaaayoooo aaaah heyoooo leh heyoooo aaah

Ha-I-oh
Ha-I-ooooohhh-aaaaaah

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>>79975812
Let refugees into your homes.

>>79975719
Good director.

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>>79976233
Good goy. Vote Macron.

>>79976243
Back to /pol/, he is good director even if you dont agree with his views.

>>79976470
My views are inseparable from my movies. We should all take a deep long hard look at ourselves as white Europeans and what we have done to the rest of the world. My movies ask the tough questions and I force the viewers to provide the answers. You are on the right track, but look deeper into yourself. Look at the suffering faces of those refugees in Calais, or Munich, or Malmo. Look at what they've gone through and try to understand.

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>>79976506
>mfw

>implying Haneke is a SJW
you know shit about cinema and politics in general

>>79976610
He certainly hates western civilization but like i said he is good director anyways.

>>79976610
he's a marxist though

>>79976610
>Haneke is a SJW
He totally is if you even notice half of the context clues.

>>79976722
what clues you fucking idiot?
- that some immigrants were depicted from time to time? (Code Unknown)
- that muh Algeria? (Cache)
- maybe that no communication in a family (Seventh Continent)? which is the most rightist thing to do in political terms
- ah, I forgot. Showing the birth of nazis in White Ribbon. No, Haneke always repeat: there is no political message. But yeah, hurr durr, my poor little nazi

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>>79976722
and a little tutorial
do what I suggested on this pic rel from time to time

>>79977068
>that some immigrants were depicted from time to time
immigrants who are depicted as honorable and more "spiritually alive" than the native European characters.
>that muh Algeria?
He framed the entire thriller around the concept that native French should feel guilt for the Algerian massacre. And he also depicted the Algerians as honorable, meek, and spiritually alive compared tot he white Europeans.
>maybe that no communication in a family which is the most rightist thing to do in political terms
Except it's the leftists that push for government intervention on private citizens such as sexual education in public schools which actively discourages communication in the family. It is the leftists that destroyed the family unit with their love of feminism and divorce. So there.
>Showing the birth of nazis in White Ribbon.
Well, glad you admitted that's exactly what Haneke was getting at. I can barely get people to concede that one. Haneke said he could have easily made it about an Arabic village. So why didn't he? Do you realize Britain and France had the same "oppressive" Protestant communities? So why is Germany the scapegoat? Because Nazis. Only Nazis..

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>>79977217
>Do you realize Britain and France had the same "oppressive" Protestant communities?
Not really.

>This type of authoritarianism was seen to be avoiding both the autocracy of Imperial Russia and what they regarded as the weak, decadent and ineffective democratic governments of Britain and France.[3] The idea of Germany as a great Central European power, neither of the West nor of the East was to be a recurring feature of right-wing German thought right up to 1945.

>>79977217
immigrants who are depicted as honorable and more "spiritually alive" than the native European characters.
Not at all. Did you see the young algerian, son of protagonist's orphanage friend? He's evil. It was probably his idea to tell the son that he should record the house. It's not about white guilt. Not in american comprehension at least.
>push for government intervention on private citizens
when and where? Not even in Benny's video. It's all about dysfunctional families. Not a word about the government. Not even a suggestion. Yea, funny games - what if police had arrived, right? No, this was just having fun with movie tropes, that's all
>So why didn't he?
Because he is from germanic sociocultural context, I don't know.

>>79977282
>Historian Hans-Ulrich Wehler of the Bielefeld School places the origins of Germany's path to disaster in the 1860s and 1870s, when economic modernization took place, but political modernization did not happen and the old Prussian rural elite remained in firm control of the army, diplomacy and the civil service. Traditional, aristocratic, premodern society battled an emerging capitalist, bourgeois, modernizing society. Recognizing the importance of modernizing forces in industry and the economy and in the cultural realm, Wehler argues that reactionary traditionalism dominated the political hierarchy of power in Germany, as well as social mentalities and in class relations (Klassenhabitus).[4]

>>79977282
Go back further than the 20th century. Like Haneke should have done because the villages he depicted were nearly non-existent at that point in time.

>>79975719
OP, I know you are memming now but Haneke never said horrors are bad. He just expressed his opinion about what we really fear: what is unknown. And nowadays horrors show us everything.
Haneke, with one scene in "Amour" (lady's hand) surpassed modern day horror heritage.

>>79977296
>Did you see the young algerian, son of protagonist's orphanage friend? He's evil.
No he's defending his father's honor from the evil white European man. We could all learn a thing or two from him!

>>79977318
German autism started with Luther.

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>>79975719
>Hi, I'm Michael Haneke. I am a director of such subversive and thought-provoking cinemas as Cachay and Funny Games. I have a severe hatred for modernity, and the West in general. I think white, upper-class Europeans need to take a step back and examine their choices, realizing how everything they do effects others across the world. Romanian people, Somalian people, I could go on. I have an upcoming film called "Happy End" which will examine the microagressions leveled by upper-class French to the migrants, who are on the receiving end of such indignities on a daily basis. My magnum opus is The White Ribbon, a chilling work of critical theory which posits the rise of German fascism was a result of evil puritanical Christians. I hate Christians, almost as much as I hate Europeans. And modernity. And the Western hemisphere. #RefugeesAreWelcomeHere

What did he mean by this?

>>79977379
even if - the existence of spirituality in western civilization is highly doubted. There are difference. Muslims are less secularized. What's wrong with depicting this? Maybe it's a stereotype, dunno.

>>79977444
>Muslims are less secularized
Yes and they give us such wonderful culture we should bring more of them over to teach us how to be more spiritual!

>>79975719
>Stop enjoying anything

ok mr hankie

>>79977296
>push for government intervention on private citizens
I'm speaking in reality not in terms of Haneke's work.

>Happy End
>A drama about a family set in Calais with the European refugee crisis as the backdrop.

another Palme d'Or and Oscar?

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>>79977596
Every single award. Fifteen minute standing O at Cannes. Haneke gets onstage and endorses Martin Schulz.

>>79977607
>Haneke gets onstage and endorses Martin Schulz.
kek

>>79977596
don;t forget it's being made for 3-4 years

>>79977736
It was filmed in the summer of 2016 and wrapped filming in like a few months. It's gonna play at Cannes.

>>79977736
you're confusing it with Flashmob, the project he dropped

>>79977808
i admit, my mistake
nevertheless in both cases he waited long time for huppert to be avaible
like few years

>>79977843
she was fucking robbed at the Oscars. easily the best female performance of the year.

Why do you keep making shit threads like these OP? You should unironically go back to /pol/.

>>79978022
the best discussions happen ITT. we are actually discussing the director and his work.

>>79977881
if you remember, Emmanuelle Riva was also robbed by J-Law few years ago

>>79978035
and Charlotte Rampling last year.

>>79978034
Yeah you're actually right now that I think about it

>>79978045
and see post-oscar talk at collider or AMC when campea and some other redneck agreed that
>we cannot award european and foreign actresses because we cannot know if they're performances are really great

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>>79976722
>>79977068
also I apologize for calling you idiot

>>79978126
Was that "redneck" a member of the Academy?

damn Emmanuelle Riva passed away a few days ago
rip

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>>79978164
probably not, just a regular actor I think
link to the show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srCV_AnRJZo&t=1663s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rapaport

>>79978232
Oh him? That's not an actor that's a TV comedian who was famous for playing a loud-mouthed Brooklyn NEW YAWK type in such shows as Boston Public and The War At Home. He never struck me as intelligent.

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>>79978259
fuck, even watching a korean movie Lady Vengeance with only subtitles I can tell that the performance of Yeong-ae Lee was one of the best I have EVER seen in my entire life. And those fuckers have problems with french actresses.

Why do we consider him a genius? it is because of Amour?

Because that is just boomer guilt propaganda because they are such narcissists they fear dying alone.

Or is it for White Ribbon, a slightly better film which doesn't have any resolution?

>>79978330
well... I don't know about that movie it was far from my favorite in that trilogy but I guess she did a good performance.

>>79978349
fun fact:
after first screening of Funny Games (1997) he was called a nazi and ostracized xD

>>79978259
>He never struck me as intelligent.

He also is typecast as the one white guy in black movies so he has to play nice when it comes to his opinions or he work work again.

Nobody really likes Michael Rappaport he always plays such White Stereotypes. He's essentially Mean Ole Whitey.

Great performance of the above in Bamboozled though.

>>79978330
>Korean """acting"""

>>79978376
how's the english language remake- the one from 2007? I see it has Naomi Watts in it, ex tv waifu

>>79978384
>he has to play nice when it comes to his opinions
being a xenophobe towards european countries? come on
>>79978391
what's your problem now?

>>79978406
frame-by-frame the same movie, even less entertaining. Also everything is great. It was made just to piss americans off and criticize their habit to watch music-clip-like editing and hollywood conventions. also
>killing doge and child
fuck hollywood and its first principle

>>79978413
>what's your problem now?
koreans can't act

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>>79978474
dangerous Michael Rappaport detected

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>>79978349
Get the fuck out, Amour is pure kino

>>79978406
it's literally useless

>>79978548
nope, it was made for the lulz

you know Haneke was offered to direct another movie in Hollywood, probably After Earth (father and son in the apocalyptic jungle, first drafts I guess). He just said "fuck you" and admitted that the producers never watch his movies, they just look at name,
Haneke is the last real artist not corrupted by money

>>79978595
>Haneke is the last real artist not corrupted by money
He gets endowments from liberal European governments to push his anti-Europe propaganda.

He absolutely is corrupted by money.

>>79978617
this is not /pol/ anymore. This is now /x/

>>79978617
>He gets endowments from liberal European governments to push his anti-Europe propaganda.
Are you generally ignorant or just American?

>>79978643
European movies achieve their funding from government grants, do they not?

>>79978035

I thought the husband was much better than her in Amour.

>>79978643
would canal plus ever make a movie critical of immigration?

>>79977164
I see a fellow "kurwa" here.

>>79978651
Trintignant is a fucking boss

>>79978650
my problem is with your idea of Haneke's work as anti-Europe propaganda

>>79978821
>Haneke's work as anti-Europe propaganda
Watch all of his movies again. Take note of how horrific the European characters are compared to the non-European characters.

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>>79978700
yup, originally from kurahen.ork

we respect Michael Haneke there, considering him one of the best directors alive.

>>79977248
the marriages in his movies are pure german-german and french-french, all whites, high society, top of a food chain

>>79978829
here's an idea for you: Haneke is not anti-European, he is critical of some dynamics happening in Europe

>>79978885
>he is critical of some dynamics happening in Europe
Happening to be critical of the "dynamics" that seek to preserve Europe from entering into a globalist hell on earth.

>>79978925
that's your idea, fwiw i think YOU are the anti-European

>>79978973
The EU is a disaster on wheels and the likes of you and Haneke will beat your drums defiantly as it burns down around you. Europe will have nations again.

>>79979012
EU as it is right now is a disaster, but the fact you want to go back to a system that produced two world wars suggests me your opinion does not help either.

>>79979060
>implying
The only war on the horizon is Germany threatening member states who see the writing on the wall and want to get the fuck out of its failed experiment.

>>79979060
In a way, so does Michael Haneke, he's just too dumb to know it. He promotes the worst kind of anti-native European sentiments in his movies, and it's the rise of that level of contempt for the European poor who are the ones actually adversely affected by mass migration that has given rise to populism and nationalism in the first place.

>>79979144
haneke is against any collectivism

>>79979180
And he is also against native Europeans.

>>79979180
What an easy position for an upper middle class socialite who will never feel the effects of depressed wages or a rise in violent crime rates to take.

>>79979105
>a failed experiment producing (together with NATO) the longest spell of peace in the modern world.
but no let's go back to the 19th century

>>79979247
>the longest spell of peace in the modern world.
You think what's happening across Europe is peace?

>>79979144
there are no natives, the whole "natives" idea is tool of distraction employed by the right to divide the poor.

>>79979263
Working class people being murdered by terrorists is a price the bourgeoisie are willing to pay so they can be considered tolerant.

>>79979263
Yes, there is no more military conflict among European states. I'm not saying it's best world we can live in, but it definitely has its merits over past systems.

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>>79979270
>there are no natives

>>79979300
>Working class people being murdered by terrorists
if you mean Islamic terrorists, lol.

>>79979303
>Yes, there is no more military conflict among European states.
Just militarized police who are clipped at the wings by a "tolerant" government and a bunch of jihadist fanatics who are enmeshed into the society so it's literally impossible to tell which one is going to run you down with a truck or which one is just trying to feed his 11 kids he had with his sister.

>>79979212
european philosophy (from Montaigne to Nietzsche or even later) of individualism was thought for:
- a male
- a mle who does not work
- a rich male
Haneke is just continuing what Europe knows since its roots

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>>79979270
Multiculturalism has been nothing but a ploy of neoliberals to distract the poor while raping them in the ass for decades.

>>79979331
The French prime minister literally said the French people had to learn to live with terrorism. What do you know that he doesn't?

>>79979338
lmao there are more stupid Americans shooting themselves than Europeans killed by Islamic terrorists

>>79979381
multiculturalism is almost worse than good old racism

>>79979425
he's just being realist.
polish asshole prime minister once sait to the victims of natural disaster "fuck you, you should have insured yourselves"
and him, just like Valls - soon to be gone.

>>79979438
Look at the populations of Germany and America, or France and America ;)

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Stop denying your complicity in the refugee crisis.

>>79979523
idiots killed by accidental discharge of firearm in the US in 2014: 586
people killed by Islamic terrorists in Europe (average 2004-today): 41

>>79980244
>(average 2014-today)
This is where your argument fell apart and you know it did because you included this.

>>79980275
?? I started with Atocha because I was feeling generous

>>79979982
omg i love those memes

>>79980275
What did he mean by that?!

>>79980309
Why are you more concerned with idiots weeding themselves out through natural selection than terrorists rampantly murdering civilians?

>>79980244
>americans literally kill more people mishandling MUH GUNS than the so called islamic threat
not surprised desu

>>79980370
because I want to highlight that there more urgent/serious problems than immigration and Islamic terrorism in Europe. Plus it's not natural selection but human behavior that can be easily prevented with gun laws. but no muh gunns muh libberty muh idiots shooting themselves

>>79980427
People drive drunk and murder others every day. Should we ban alcohol? Should we ban cars? People text while drive and cause accidents. how about we ban phones?

>>79980244
>people killed by Islamic terrorists in Europe (average 2004-today): 41
There were 234 who died in the France attack in 2014 alone

>>79980546
SHHHHHHHHH WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THAT

>>79980546
you mean 157, still less than the US numbers

Is there any male nudity in Amour? It's the only reason why I'd watch it.

>>79980515
dui is prohibited idiot, also driving while at the phone

wtf is haneke's problem?

>>79980546
there was no islamic terrorist attack in Europe in 2014

>>79980596
And I have to pass a background check with three character references to get a hunting rifle in my state.

Fuck off you big government sissy.

>>79980244
>>79980574
I don't know what you were trying to express even if you hadn't lied about the numbers. Is your point that Islamic terror isn't "that bad" because there exist other causes of death that claim more victims?

>>79980638
That's exactly what he's arguing.
>>79980427

>>79980638
yes politics is about priority

>>79980648
Oh, I see. That's a really retarded point then, though, for several reasons. The most pressing one being that if Islamic terror is ignored *now*, it's given the chance to organize and entrench itself even more in unprepared/underprepared nations.

>>79980657
>crack down on guns
>less accidental discharge deaths
>feel pleased with yourself
HOWEVER
>shootings still happen in Chicago, New Orleans, Detroit
>Islamic terrorists massacre more nightclubs
But how could this happen?! We made guns illegal!

>>79980613
Just going off an article that said "the last 18 months" it was published in mid-2016, my b senpai

>>79980657
Yes, but I don't think you're understanding the priorities correctly. There is no reason to assume that self-inflicted gun deaths are in a process of escalation or even on a significant rise whereas Islamic terror certainly is. Plus, personally I also see a huge difference in social relevance between self-inflicted deaths (of any kind) and organized terror.

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>it's another triggered /pol/cucks talk about shit they don't understand on another board thread

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>>79980772
>it's another I've officially run out of arguments so I'll just /pol/whine a bit post

>>79980700
what do you mean? again, there was no terrorist attack in Europe in 2014.

>>79981145
As in I was wrong about 2014, I meant 2015.

>>79980673
>>79980716
That Islam is a mortal threat to Europe is not substantiated by numbers and is used by right-wing governments to divide people opposing them.
People: "the European social model is failing". Right-wing governments: "I don't care but here's something to distract you (ISIS, immigration, you name it)

>>79981166
157 deaths, not 234. again, i'm not claiming we should not consider this number, but i'm saying there are more important things to do, like for instance rethink this fucking Euro zone.

>>79981145
Not so fast!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Museum_of_Belgium_shooting

>>79981293
you are right, there was that one.

>>79981145
Hi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Tours_police_station_stabbing

>>79981331
4 actually. 3 of which in France

>>79981218
Yeah, that's got nothing to do with my posts or my points. I'm not supporting that "right-wing" position you're presenting there. I'm saying that Islamic terror is an undeniable problem that should be taken very seriously for the reasons I've already elaborated on.

In its current form, I perceive it as an issue comparable to the RAF terrorism of the 70's and early 80's. That didn't claim victims in the thousands either - on the contrary, they mostly targeted individuals - but it was still a significant threat to societal safety and cohesion. It gave the terrorist organizations *leverage*, and that's the crux of it all; that's what should be prevented. It's never a good idea to let terror organizations take root in any society, and the fact that people like you are even trying to minimize these issues disturbs me to no end.

What is it with modern "liberals" and their fetishization of one of the most patriarchal and intolerant cultures and religions in the world?

Is it because they're exotic?

>>79981246
Charlie Hebdo: 16
June Beheading: 1
November 2015 suicide bombings: 130
Police officer and wife: 2
Bastille Day celebrations: 84
All these deaths since 2015.

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>>79980244

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>>79981618
Leftist terrorism is the second largest type of terrorism in Europe. Religious terrorism has taken up a sharp turn in recent years.

>>79981656
In EU*

In Europe religious terrorism would be bigger because of Russia.

>>79981564
It's because modern "liberalism" is the most schizophrenic and self-defeating ideological brew currently on the menu, and I'm saying this as a staunch leftie.

I think the moment people started judging issues, threats, problems and solutions not by their individual merits but according to the progressive stack (and any "intersectional" offshoots) is when modern liberalism, if you want to call it that, turned into unsalvageable shit. We need a new left, a new *rational* left.

>>79981656
You would have to be a complete fucking retard to unironically post this idiotic graph.

>>79981674
And fucking turkey LOL

>>79981674
Do not forget the train bombings >>79981618
since the original claim was 2004 - 2017 and it happened in 2004.

>>79981712
Interpol is not okay now? Is interpol right wing propaganda? Separatism is a big deal in Europe, and ANTIFA/Anarchists are after them the biggest source of terrorism.

Sorry if this hurts your feelings.

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Stop supporting Trump.

>>79975719
shut the fuck up disgusting neckbeared old cunt

>>79981618
yes I took the numbers from wikipedia. is that a problem?

>>79981776
>ANTIFA/Anarchists are after them the biggest source of terrorism
get your facts right son, left wing terrorism killed very few people in Europe
>>79981618

>>79981415
how many deaths?

>>79981502
I'm not saying islamic terrorism is not a problem, i'm saying it's not the main problem of Europe nowadays.

>>79981415
4. It makes it less valid as an attack?

what even is this thread

>>79978857
yeah right, polfaggot

What exactly is that which people find good in Haneke's flicks? His directing is some of the most stale, uncinematic, boring schlock I've seen. He seems to have great skill at getting the best from his actors, but I'm not sure how much of that is his work and not that of the actors.

>>79984606
static frame =/= uncinematic

>>79984659
Never claimed so. But seriously, there's like 2-3 good shots per Haneke film. He honestly has no idea of what good composition is

>>79984606
Good shot framing and composition. Complex characters and very well done psychology of characters.

A NEW KINO IS RISING

IT'S PREMIERE, IS AT HAND

>>79985122
I don't know, to me truly uncinematic movies are pretty rare. Think Spotlight. Haneke is constantly using the camera to convey meaning or emotion

Is it always the same /pol/ guy making these dumb threads?

Kill the whiteys

>>79975719
Stop being a cuck

>>79985621
You don't have to be /pol/ to despise Michael Haneke. Being a liberal makes his movies pretty disgusting too.

>>79981618
wow, look at that uptick in religious terrorism, like lmao fuck all religions, totally not just one, like fuck all!