David Foster Wallace on Quentin Tarantiny-brain

French new wave is literally some of the most inauthentic, meandering bourgeoise pap ever inflicted on celluloid.

all three of these guys are hacks

Am I a brainlet for not understanding Lynch flicks?

>>79959052
oh god this guy sucks. Foster was a hack who wrote absolute garbage and his 'sincerity' shtick inflicted quite some (hopefully not lasting) damage on the literary world. it wasn't sincerity, it was sentimentality.

>>79959089
also this

I honestly don't even think that is necessarily a bad thing. Being able to take some style or some spirit from one movement and be able to alter it and make it mainstream for a wider audience usually ends of being good because you are just introducing something once underground to the masses.I know people wanna bitch about it's just ripping something off or just appropriating something, but that is how ideas and inspiration spreads. If you discover something new, you wanna take elements from it and put them into your world and see what happens and if they become popular, than others can trace back where those ideas stem from and find those original ideas all over again and then may find new ones all over again. I think it's kinda cool when you decide to bring something you like to the masses and if it gets accepted and praised then you are just kinda passing the torch on, in a sense. I would feel very lucky to be one of these torch passers than be some guy spending just banging rocks and "original" ideas together, never getting anywhere and staying unknown. fuck that

>>79959191
they're mostly dream logic

I don't think the plebs that post on /tv/ can comprehend even 10 % of what he is saying there. These are the same people who are obsessed with marvel movies.

>>79959052
Based Foster God

>>79959052
this thread is out of place here

>le quirky spergelord who hanged himself
>le /lit/ man
>having relevant opinions

>>79959593
>le meme arrows hero

>>79959579
Not really. It's about Quentin Tarantino.

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>mfw audiovisual plebs near me

>D.Lynch and French New Wave are the top tier of comparisons for this man

He's a psuedointellectual that died before psuedointellectualism became popular to point out and squash. He's similar in that way to Bill Hicks.

>>79959637
>and but so this is water!!!!111

>>79959459
You should probably leave if you feel this way,pseud.

Or are you one of those people who sticks around to shit post yet if you were truly intelligent you wouldn't find anything here funny

what was that David Foster Wallace film with Jason Segel like?

was it any good?

>>79959100

>>79959879
very comfy, but nothing special

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Would Animorphs make a good movie?

>>79959707
what shitty taste in /lit/.

>not dfw essays
>not mason and dixon
>not the idiot
>not war and peace
>can't read that next one
>or the other
>or the one above that
>les mis is trash literature.

>>79959806
I primarily surf /lit/

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>>79960745
post some dank /lit/ menes then

Loved this guy in Leverage.

>>79959707
>Music hardly requires attention
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>79959052
didn't PTA take one of his classes?

>>79959459
They definitely don't. I just come here to laugh at the butthurt they get over their inability to understand big words. It makes me feel better about my high IQ and sophisticated cinematic tastes.

>>79960928
Post some sophisticated kinema for us

>>79960794
Woah, they look surprisingly well adjusted for people who'd go to a fucking 4chan meetup.

Compare to the pic of Reddit or /fa/ for comparison.

>>79960928
true dat

>>79960979
No way that's a /lit/ meetup. Everyone's too old and normal-looking. Plus, the pic looks like it was taken in the late 90s/early 2000s.

>>79960745
So?you are still here.

>suggested Infinite jest
>give it a shot
>First 80 some pages is just great detail of a socially akward dudes weed history

I've never read anything that went nowhere as much as that assholes shitty book. It might pick up, but it was a seriously offensive waste of time for 80 pages. I wasn't going to waste anymore time seeing if there was anything worth reading.

Long post short, David Foster Wallace is a huge faggot.

>>79960794
post the one where they harrass the youtube girl

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>>79961276

>>79959089
I think you mean Godard, not all french New Wave is like that.

>>79961333
>>79961276
I love that one

>>79959100

DFW wad an asshole who killed himself because Federer had his first real wobble.
It would be hilarious to travel back to a dying DFW and whisper in his ear "Fed will win a slam in 2017, always trust the goat"

and just see his dumb eyes widen in shock as he died

>>79961218
If you can't even give a book your attention for a thousand pages in order to actual critique it then you're probably too much of a pleb to make any sort of estimation of its quality

>>79959052
Well looks like I have to find a new poster boy. Someone popular on reddit must have made a video about him or something, because lately I've seen an explosion of people incorrectly using the term "postmodernism", usually describing anything made past 2000 and weird, and spamming his face everywhere.

>>79959707
>such lack of comprehension on what makes music a great form of the arts
>that stack of books that was clearly ripped off of a "best books ever written"
>not a single crack in any of the spines
>pretending to have understood Finnigans Wake
>thinks he's being humble

Saving it for the next cringe thread

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>>79959052
Wallace had good taste in film (Blue Velvet was an immediate favorite of his when it came out), but his liberal allocentrism was the end of him.

>>79961333
wonderful trips. By far this is the best most entertaining thing /lit/ has ever done. Bravo

>>79959052
>lunch
It was breakfast you fuck.

>>79959089

I watched Celine and Julie Go Boating today and it was one of the worst film experiences I've ever had. Fuck the French New Wave. So much absolute garbage.

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>>79959100
>all three of these guys are hacks

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Does DFW have a book of critical essays?

>>79959052
david brooks in an axl rose wig dot jpg

>>79959593
Spoilers, shitlord

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>>79959593
watch it

>>79960718
5th is Don Quixote and 7th looks like Ulysses.

>>79961864
does it really matter how many people someone has slept with though? i used to reject women if i even thought they might be loose and by loose i thought having sex with 10 guys was absolutely revolting. now im late 20s and fucked almost 20 women while living like a hermit for 5 of those 10 years. it just doesnt make sense to judge a woman harshly for fucking 10 guys when a decent looking woman gets advances on a daily basis and probably rejected 98% of the guys.

How's the movie on DFW's life? It's called The End of the Tour. Is it worth watching?

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>>79959052
why is quentin so based bros?

>>79962765
rekt? lol. Bret Eason Ellis is a talentless ant compared to DFW. while i do think DFW is overrated (my how i hate what that word has become), Ellis doesn't even merit comparison. i'm with Norman Mailer when he said he wished a better writer had written American Psycho since it was a great idea awfully executed.

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David Foster Wallace is like that guy from The Royal Tenenbaums but he actually killed himself.

DFW is a classic example of wasted talent.

dfw is shit lol
i cringe everytime i see a teen talking about him (those are the only people that talk about him)

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>>79963204
Wow I never saw it before but DFW is like a wes anderson character.

>>79963278
dat framing

>>79963211
how so? he used his talent to teach and write several amazing books of essays and a couple of impressive works of fiction. he killed himself, but he didn't waste his talent. he produced great work, mate.

>>79963251
what works of his have you read? his piece on the filming of Lost Highway is hilarious.

>>79963331
his fiction is bad. i dont mind his commentary.

>>79963136
If you've read any of DFW's books or watched any of his interviews it won't tell you anything new about him or his ideas, and Jason Segel's performance doesn't really come close to capturing all the idiosyncrasies of his character. They also imply DFW was a full-blown TV addict, as if he was addicted to TV the same way an alcoholic is to booze. I don't know how true that really is but it really really seems like a stretch just to give him some concrete motivation or whatever.

>>79959879
tbqf no other movie has caught the same atmosphere of life in the late 90's

>>79963099
Yes, you hedonist/nihilist cuck.

>>79963354
you mean his essays? yeah, they're very well written and supremely engaging.

just curious, what fiction of his have you read to decide his fiction is bad? Infinite Jest? The Pale King? Brief Conversations with Hideous Men? which one exactly?

Who cares what David Foster Wallace thinks? He's a pussy that blew out his brains because he couldn't handle life. Neither was he that good of a writer.

>>79962765
>said the one trick pony

If it wasn't for Christian Bale he'd be a fucking nobody

>>79963437
Not even any movie made in the actual late-90s?

>>79963476
>blew out his brains because he couldn't handle life
But that takes strength. It also means he was too intelligent to delude himself like everyone else does day in and out.

>>79963476
wrong, mate. DFW was a very good writer. very, very good. read his essays. they're amazing. if you have no sympathy for suicides, maybe you have an empathy problem.

>>79963585
Strangely, no

>>79963628
swingers? rounders? out of sight?

>>79959746
>psuedointellectualism became popular to point out and squash

Things that literally never happened. Popular culture is dominated by psuedointellectuals.

>>79963601
>he was too intelligent to delude himself like everyone else does day in and out.
that's a myopic way to view DFW's suicide. he had depression issues, crippling anxiety, and substance abuse issues. i also think he was emotionally immature and prone to self-loathing. he was highly intelligent, though. that's obvious to anyone who has read his work.

>>79963826
The difference is that those movies are influenced BY the 90's, but don't really reflect everyday life, this one (at least for me), did

>>79963873
Will watching the movie help me understand? I can't sit and read a 1000 page drivel

>>79963601
He survived, op pic is of him wearing the bandages, see he is happy now he blasted the depression right out of his brain.

>instagram memes now on 4chan

Is this what /tv/mblr has come to?

>>79963927
what movie? End of the Tour? no, that's just a brief look at him through a less talented writer/journalist's lens. i did like a lot of the film, but that's not even the Cliff's Notes to a DFW's life. also, don't read novels to try to understand anything. read them for pleasure. with DFW, i'd start with his essays. try Consider the Lobster or A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again (the Lynch piece is in it).

>>79959191
>>79959336
David montage in a david lynch film is more of a stream-of-conciousness thing than a logical thing.

The way he cuts from one image to the next follows a very non-linear sort of dream-logic. It's not meant to be realistic or objective.. it's meant to depict the human thought process more directly.

Funnily enough, that means it's heavily symbolic rather than literal/objective/realist.

>>79960508
There's too much material, I think it could only work as a tv show. I'm surprised netflix hasn't gone after it.

>>79961864
>>79963099
That's a quote by John Green.
>>79960882
Yes, an English class at Amherst in the early 90s.

>>79961333
This is still probably the best thing I've seen on 4chan.

>>79959089
>>79959209
>hey gius i hate some of the most acclaimed art works of the 20th century, am i cool yet?

kys

>>79959052
What a pretentious fag. I'm glad he killed himself

>>79963471
i've read everything he's ever written dude.
unless it's some obscure shit - then no I probably haven't read it.
it's literally all hype - and he knew it.

>>79964111
>most acclaimed art works of the 20th century
>dfw
o i am laffin

>>79964149
>Infinite Jest
>not praised to high Heaven in literary circles
pick one

protip: their opinion means a helluva lot more than yours

>>79964193
>appeal to authority

cool fallacy, bro

>>79964193
>cites """literary circles""""
as me how i know ur a retard

>>79964336
how i know ur a retard?

>>79964397
You read his posts.

>>79963099
people who fuck a lot are statistically more unsatisfied with their marriages

>>79959333
Underrated post.

>>79963202

Ellis wrote two very good novels and all of his work is "readable" - DFW's essays are wonderful, his fiction is accessible only to the rare enthusiast, the kind of novelist loved by many and read by few.

>People who haven't read it will never understand

>>79964731
i wouldn't put Easton Ellis's work in the very good category. to use a sports analogy, EE plays small ball while DFW is in the big leagues but throws knuckleballs, which isn't really everyone's thing. i do agree that DFW's fiction isn't really accessible to the general reader.

>>79964731
I wouldn't say that Ellis' novels are readable; if you aren't into pop culture like he is 90% of American Psycho and Glamorama are boring and the other 10% are violence which your average guy will avoid

>>79963619
>read his essays

he was a much better essayist. His novels are brilliantly written wankery that I can't stomach.

>>79961333
This is fantastic.

>>79965359
yeah, his novels really do wade into wankery, don't they? maybe not wade, plunge and dive down to the depths of wankery. however, they can be fun and insightful reads once you get over that hurdle. his essays, though, are just splendid, lucid, and streamlined.

>>79965683
this is the most reddit post i've ever fucking read on this site, holy shit.

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>>79959593

>>79965770
ooh, you've contributed. good, boy. now run along and let those who actually have something to say continue with their discussion.

>>79959052
he was a fag who killed himself

Reminder that if you haven't read Infinite Jest, or if you have and didn't understand it you're legally retarded and unfit to have an opinion on anything.

Wait why is he comparing Tarantino to Lynch and French New Wave those are entirely different things from each other

>>79964731
>>79962765
Ellis is a worthless piece of shit. Rolling Stone-tier writer, a pop culture novelty that had 5 minutes of fame because of a movie.

>>79959052

Reservoir dogs was always trash

pulp fiction and some of his later stuff is still good though

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post 'em, /tv/

>>79961333

This one breaks my heart every tim. Ruining someone's passion like that :(

Why is it the same time I discover DFW I'm seeing him posted everywhere? Are you fucks following me?

>>79963959
kek

>>79968821
herzog is fucking based

>>79965770
Fucking kill yourself.

>>79968821
lol