A CGI Alien

>>79944005
thank trump for not letting them in when we need them

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>>79944065
I don't mind CGI but yeah, this could have used a practical effect and actual model.

The fucking deacon from Prometheus looked fantastic when it came out out of the Engineer.
I dunno lads, hoping for the best but this trailer just looked like Ridley being lazy

>>79944005

It's hanging onto the hull of a spaceship mid flight, I don't see how you could do it with a puppet or a guy in a suit

>>79944213
They could do it with a puppet or animatronice with ckever camera work but that's too much work

>>79944213
I am sorry to have to break the mystery and wonder bud, but that isn't a real spaceship and it isn't actually flying.

>>79944213
...it's not really hanging onto the hull of a spaceship, anon.

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>>79944005
Alien movie directed by Nolan when?

>>79944030
Probably the only tasteful joke I've seen related to politics in over a year.

>>79944352
Sadly never

>>79944243
They use a puppet/animatronic in Alien 3 and it looks like fucking shit

There's zero reason to do practical

>>79944005
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THAT LOOKS GODDAMN TERRIBLE

SO

FUCKING

GLAD

I

AM

NOT

SEEING

THIS

MOVIE

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>>79944065
>>79944065

>>79944258
>>79944266

No shit. The point is a practical alien couldn't do what the CGI can, especially in action heavy scenes like that, or it would look fucking terrible

>>79944740
This still looks terrible, though.

>>79944740
>a practical alien couldn't do what the CGI can, especially in action heavy scenes like that, or it would look fucking terrible

Where do you come up with this mongoloidic shit from? Why are you so retarded, man? What happened? I'm genuinely curious. Were you born this way or what?

>>79944767

Not really, looks as good as it can get

>>79944806

Are you implying I'm wrong? That you can do that scene with animatronic or a costume and it would look good? Aren't you the retarded

>>79944812
k

>>79944832
You are weirdly defensive about this, are you on the production team?

if so, scrap this and try again

>>79944812
Not really, it looks terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVAKycDdKMU

>tfw they removed the pratical FX from Fifield's death, to that CGI shit

>>79944740
for what reason couldnt you?
the problem is nowadays no one has the creativity or ingenuity to utilise practical effects to create something like this, they just want the easy cheap way out

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>diarrhea acid farts

>>79944583
kys

>>79944065
That looks horrible

>>79944065
>>79944005
The trailer for newest AvP game looks pretty good.

>>79944832
yes, you could get a guy in a rubber suit with a reinforced head to bash it against some glass until it shatters. Ditto for a robotic rig.

would it be as fast? no. does it need to be done with SPOOPY FASTMOTION to be scary? no.

>>79944583
You sound like someone who enjoyed the Thing prequel.

>>79944005
What game is this?

>photorelaistic alien CGI
>OMG IT LOOKS LIKE A PS2 GAME AHAAAAAAAAA HELP ME MOOOM!

Thats how retarded you sound.

>>79944583
>puppet/animatronic
Well yeah but not in the sense they used puppets/animatronics in Alien and Aliens. It was a very tiny model they used for stop motion and then later put in the scenes using blue/green screen. So it was actually more CGI than practical in a way.

>>79944005
Man, Alien: Colonial Marines was a shit game

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>>79944065

What's the xeno's right hand holding onto and why isn't it using its tail like pic related? The queen in Aliens used her tail like a weapon.

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>>79944065
reminds me of this

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what exactly is wrong with this shot? what's the dealbreaker here?

>>79944352

MS. Ripley, im ALIEN

>>79945618
>not WY

one job m8

>>79945223
All xenos use their tail as a weapon. Guess the Covenant alien is the retarded brother of the original xenos.

>>79944065
I don't know, it feels like this scene plays more to 'whoa look at the cool shit the Alien is doing' when that was never why I liked Alien as a film.

The Alien itself is an excellent design but it's been thrown out of any context here. Look at how the Alien is shot in the original film, or even how it moves in Alien: Isolation. It blends in with the environment.

Throwing the Alien on top of a truck against a flat grey background, it looks incredibly out of place. Danny McBride is obviously supposed to be in danger here, but the Alien feels least dangerous when you can see it clearly. It's when it's against pipes and crawling on the walls, in shadow, that you fear it.

the fucking original jurassic parks cgi still holds up better than this shitfest

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>>79945910
It´s kinda funny (and sad) that they´re trying so hard to turn a stealthy, semi-intelligent being into a run-of-the-mill leaping monster. Even in aliens the xenos fucking cut the power, hid in walls/smoke and used vents to sneak up on ppl.

>>79946074
this was a great scene

>>79945980

Hmmm does it though?

>>79946074
they kinda lost that silent, creepy elegance by Alien 3, but it wasn't anywhere near this bad

>>79946074
At least we can still look forward to Shane Black's Predator movie. He probably won't fuck that up.

>>79946182

He already has with the nu-male cast. And also

>hunting in muh suburbs

>>79944065
looks completely ass

next we'll have 10000 marines vs 1000000 aliens facing eachother in formation battle

Is CGI a meme now?
What is wrong with you

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why are practical effects so much more comf than cgi lads

>>79946074
It's not just that, though; it's presentation.

The frame you posted is an excellent example of how to do it right. The Alien casts a black silhouette in the background against the light, creating this really stark scorpion image. Especially with Newt unaware and innocent in the foreground, the sense of danger is imminent and clear.

Compare that to >>79944065; the CGI on the Alien here, the angle chosen to portray it, how it just lazily fills the screen rather than being in the background or foreground, there's little sense of exactly HOW it's a threat. You just know 'it's on the ship, it's trying to get in'. There's no sense of symbolism in the image, no visual poetry.

>>79946465
I think it´s the lighting. Practical effects always look like they are in the same dimension, Cgi effects look like they are happening someplace else but certainly not in the same place as where the real actors are.

>>79944065
barely any better than the shitty CGI dog alien from Alien^3

Also, what pisses me off about the trailer is how it reveals so much. I think we see more screentime of the xenomorph(s) in this trailer alone than we saw in the entirety of Alien 1. Not to mention we already know who gets facehugged, who is clearly going to die, etc. The entire plot is basically already given to us, except for a couple action scenes to link things together.

Ridley Scott apparently fundamentally doesn't even understand his own damn original movie. He keeps making these bullshit attempts to recreate Alien 1, but they all fall flat, because he seems to think that people sitting around saying "OOOH I WONDER WHAT NEW TYPES OF XENOMORPHS" is a substitute for having a good screenplay

>>79946649
>Ridley Scott apparently fundamentally doesn't even understand his own damn original movie

Honestly, he's just getting old and complacent.

I mean, Jesus, even in the stuff that isn't continuations of his classics. You see Exodus?

Yeah, exactly. Don't.

>>79944650
you're going to see it regardless who are you kidding

>>79946708
He had a huge stem down in quality with everything after Gladiator.

F90s and AR-15s with green lasers

what is this bullshit

>>79946484
That and it's a a lingering shot that gives you a full clear image of what the alien looks like in broad daylight.

In the original, we didn't even see what the alien looked like in its entirety until near the end of the movie. There's no mystery or suspense here. We already know everything about the movie. Black goo pods, facehuggers, and aliens.

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>>79946788
They didn´t have the goat pulse rifle yet. Still kinda weird how shitty their tech outside of the ship is.

>>79946757
Why is that, anyway?

Was it finally getting that Oscar?

>>79946788
>F90s and AR-15s with green lasers

This I dont get, why not a Pulse Rifle or Smart Gun

wonder how Alien movie by Terrence Malick would look like

>>79944065
This is AvP, right?

>>79946870
I think it's just a matter of getting old. Your mind becomes less adaptive and flexible as you grow older. That's why guys like scientific/musical geniuses do all their brilliant shit in their early life. It's why modern Nintendo is shit, because all the people who were there in their 20s making groundbreaking new games are still there in their 60s controlling everything

>>79947087
games are shit in general now

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>>79947174
Wrong, videogames are smash hits now.

>>79947174
Ironically, considering the subject matter of the thread, one of the best games I've played recently was Alien: Isolation. Really unique experience. Made the Alien feel genuinely threatening again.

tfw overused the flamethrower and now it isn't scared any more

>>79947174
Alien Isolation was surprisingly good though. Probably the last good alien content we´ll get in ever.

>>79947194
she's not really an Asari, i mean there are no ugly Asari

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>>79947194
someBODY

>>79947194

>this is a major Triple A game

>>79947194
I don't really know how to respond to this but you're probably a dumb kid so it doesn't matter.

>>79944065
Two questions.

>isn't Covenant supposed to be a direct prequel to Alien? If so, why the alien is so different from the Xenomorph in Alien?

>isn't the goal of the Covenant to start a settlement? If so, why send gay people who can't reproduce?

>whatever spaceship super glass
>the ship is flying 5000mph whatever in foreign planets
>where it might get hit by large rocks/rock birds and shit flying directly towards it at 5000mph
>breaks from an humanoid standing still headbutting it

the physics just don't match to be honest.

>>79947321
>>isn't Covenant supposed to be a direct prequel to Alien?
No
>isn't the goal of the Covenant to start a settlement? If so, why send gay people who can't reproduce?
They're not allowed to make movies without inserting faggotry any more.

I think whats more dissapointing is the trailer spoiled the entire plot of the movie.
I think it looks promising desu, certainly worth watching. But no where near good as the original 2.

Glad to see there is more creatures than just the Alien though. Hopefully we'll see more wierd shit.

>>79947321
1. The neomorph is probably the not-yet fully-developed version of the regular xenomorph drone. There will be regular eggs/xenos in Covenant.
2. The "crew" shown in the prologue and trailer is just flying the ship. There´s hundreds/thousands of frozen embryos inside the ship.

>>79947375
>>>isn't Covenant supposed to be a direct prequel to Alien?
>No
So when is Covenant supposed to happen?

>>79947366
Isn't that some kind of rover? It looks too boxy to be a ship.

Predator is in this one

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>>79947401
after prometheus

>>79947426
i was thinking its a cargo platform

>>79947436
SO it's a prequel to the first Alien...

>>79947401
Before aliens
10 years after promemetheous

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>>79947436

>>79947194
Blue Shreck babe. No, thx.

You think there would be a standard safe protocol that requires the crew to wear gas mask, yeah the atmosphere might be the same as on earth but for you know the atmosphere is also full of fungus that settles in your brain.
>>79944583
>and it looks like fucking shit
Because the background was CGI every time the puppet was on screen

>>79947482
>direct prequel to Alien?
No, Sequel to Prometheus, set before Alien in the timeline, yes technically a prequel to alien but not a direct one.

>>79946280
>hunting in muh suburbs
Why not? It worked for Predator 2

Fuck you that movie was great

the sound mixing seems really fucking overdone during the dialogue in the trailer. it's too fucking clear.

Has anyone xplained why a gay couple is on a colonization expedition? I've looked around a bit and can't find anything.

Will this be in the entire movie or is the CGI thing just for a feature scene?

I rewatched ALien 3 a few days ago and this alien only looks a little better than what was in that.

>>79946839
Just look at the fucking work done on that prop, it's a fucking tommy gun from pre ww2 and even though its an 80s film it still looks modern and futuristic.
You do not get that level of dedication and effort with modern film, it's all green-screens and CGI shite

>>79946649
>>79946708
lmao ridley isn't doing shit, he only signing the movie so plebs will watch it
this is a corporate product and nothing more

>>79947276
>being so clinically retarded that you can't get basic sarcasm

You should honestly kill yourself

>>79947633
It wouldn´t even be that bad if they gave the cgi guys enough time and resources and only used cgi where it actually made sense. But they´re just rushing the production and it shows.

I´m not exactly a fan of cgi in movies though. You can´t create a good atmosphere if something doesn´t look real in film.

>>79947639
>Directed by Ridley Scott
Yes he gave us Alien, Thelma & Louise, Blade Runner, American Gangster and Gladiator.

But he also gave us Hannibal, Robin Hood, The Counselor, Exodus: Gods and Kings, A Good Year and 1492: Conquest of Paradise

>>79947712
I really wish I could kill myself anon.

>>79947321
>>isn't the goal of the Covenant to start a settlement? If so, why send gay people who can't reproduce?

Because they're not there to birth a colony, that few couples would not be genetically viable, that low of a number only worked once in human history.

They're couples because they want people to have emotional support and stability for this life commitment to colonization. People can get seriously depressed being separate from their family for a year, now imagine committing your life to it.

>IT'S A /tv/ HATE A BIG NEW RELEASE THREAD

Like clockwork.

>>79944005
>>79944065

Showing too much of the Ayyyy, it looks like shit now.

>>79947749
We can't all be as fucking stupid as you anon

>>79944065
Why is it headbutting shit, doesn't it have a mouth thing to break shit. Fuck me lads I'm too old for this shit.

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>>79947779

>>79947782
Mouth to break flesh and bones

Head to break glass

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>>79944005
>another alien movie where a trained astronaut sticks their head in an alien egg

>>79947756
underrated

>>79947818
Why not just use the tail?

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>hey guys let's spoil the entire movie in the trailer because we're worried people might not see this if they don't know every detail

>>79947812
I mean how dare anyone critique shitty cgi

Remember when they only hinted at seeing the scary creature and you only ever saw glimpses of it and your imagination filled the gaps which made it actually scary because your imagination know you and knows your fears.
Who's directing this turd?

>>79947749
So far I've never seen tv hate on something without good reason

>>79947030
Arrival

>>79944005
I won't be watching this garbage anyway.
I'm not paying money to have interracial and faggot propaganda shoved in my face.

>>79947879
Thanks to AvP xenos are now superfast leapy creatures that attack in broad daylight.

One xenomorph versus one Na'vi warrior, who wins?

Battle takes place on the planet this movie is on. Na'vi has no mount but has all of Arnie's weapons in the third act of Predator, but Na'vi sized

>>79947865
Because blunt force is better for breaking things then something with a small area

>>79947749
Why don't you stay on reddit?

>>79947866
>>79947879
seriously hate how trailers have been like this for a long while now. I guess studios get more nervous about box office of course but fuck, leave things to the imagination.

not to shill, but that recent trailer for It Comes At Night was fucking effective at setting the mood and revealing little while still keeping my interest piqued.

>>79947865
To intelligent to risk painful tailbone injury

>>79947908
>I'm not paying money to have interracial and faggot propaganda shoved in my face.
This.

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>>79947866
>He was unable to tell every detail from the title alone

>>79947812
Fuck off to reddit you utter normie pleb cunt

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Wouldn't the glass of a spaceship be extremely thick and reinforced to survive re-entry?

>>79947194
this makes me so happy that I dropped videogames. Fucking embarrassing that this will most likely be considered one of the best games of the year by general audiences.

>>79947970
>he doesn't know xeno headbutts have been clocked past escape velocity

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>>79947879
>Remember when they only hinted at seeing the scary creature and you only ever saw glimpses of it and your imagination filled the gaps which made it actually scary because your imagination know you and knows your fears.
Nope, do you?
>Who's directing this turd?
Ridley Scott
>>79947911
The games or the movies? Because the games where set in mostly dark corridors and the same for the movies

>>79944005

Why doesn't he just flip the shuttle upside down the alien will fall off, is this going to be another retarded scene like Charlize Theron not jumping to the side in Prometheus

>>79947998
Mostly the movies. The games were pretty good even if they strayed away from the original concept of the alien. The movies were absolute trash.

>>79944650
>HAHA I TOLD THE INTERNET I PROBABLY WON'T GO TO SEE A MOVIE
>WHERE IS UR GOD NOW

>>79944935
Nah. It looks good.

>>79944922
You are weirdly offensive about this, are you from a competitive company?

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>>79948023

>Hollywood having it's worst ticket sales in recent history
>HEHEHE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU GO TO SEE THIS MOVIE OR NOT

Mmmhhhmmmm

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>>79944005
Cameron pls comeback already and save us from this sea of garbage flicks

>>79948065
Took you this long to reply? Christ.

>>79947970
I don't think that's a spaceship, looks more like a on planet ship.

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/faq-shuttleglass.html
>>79948012
He isn't wearing his seatbelt, in fact nobody is.

>>79948021
But admit it, you would rather the movies to be canon then Prometheus.

>>79945134
Sorry, buddy, you're not polishing this turd

>>79947998
>Nope, do you?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LjLamj-b0I8

Overall look and feel of the movie seems alright - then again, Prometheus looked and sounded amazing as well.

A couple of things worry me:

1.) It looks like a re-tread of Alien. Ship lands on planet, somebody gets facehugged, shit goes down. We know how that works already. Adding scenery porn and CGI to a 1970s film won't be enough for me, at least.

2.) Characters. The Prometheus crew were legitimately the dumbest people ever born and this (alongside the nonsensical plot) cheapened the movie. Sure you'd expect characters in a scary/slasher film to bite it in numerous ways but it's the way leading up to it which makes a big difference.

3.) They're showing the CGI alien out and about in broad daylight. Having the ayyyy on screen doing all sorts of crazy shit is not a recipe for a good scary movie. Sure I'll be wowed by the special effects I guess but it's just not tickling my animal brain (the part that's telling me there's something big and nasty around the corner ready to eat me)

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wouldn't the glass of the spacescraft be really thick and reinforced to hold against objects flying through space at a much greater speed than a speeding bullet?

>>79944352
I want an alien film directed by Danny Boyle.

>>79948184
You're not exactly helping your argument by posting a trailer for what was then an all new film. Before it became a hit franchise

Everyone knows what the Xenomoprhs looks like, it has alien in the name so the people will see the movie for the Xenomoprh.

>>79946649
The alien in 3 wasn't CGI, it was a rod-puppet.

>>79948223
its glass for a cargo transport not a spaceship

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>>79948276
And it looked a lot better than the cgi aliens.

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>>79948223
Why would a spacescraft use glass?

You do know that spacecraft and high altitude air planes does not use glass right?

>>79948232
So you can know the Xeno is in it but why spoil the entire plot of the movie? Aliens and 3 had their fair share of scary moments even though we knew what the critter looked like. My main qualm is that we already know the entire plot of the movie from 2 trailers, and no doubt a lot of people will be saying "Oh this was in the trailer, someone dies here" rather than "I wonder what happens next/where the alien is."

They're reducing the value of the scary moments in the movie by showing us exactly what's going to happen, which to me smells that they don't want a repeat of Prometheus where people didn't know what was going on and stepped into a clusterfuck of a movie. So they're dumping all the important points on us now so we know what we're getting into

>>79948313
The one on the left is the rod-puppet too. The only CGI alien bit in the third film was when its head cracked at the end.

>>79948327
>My main qualm is that we already know the entire plot of the movie from 2 trailers
Really? I was able to figure out the entire plot by the title and the fact that they said this would be a sequel to Prometheus.

But we are moving goalposts here. The original post said
>Remember when they only hinted at seeing the scary creature and you only ever saw glimpses of it and your imagination filled the gaps which made it actually scary because your imagination know you and knows your fears.
Which has nothing to do with the trailer telling the entire story of the movie.

>>79948313
so when did the alien head get transparent anyway? don't remember it being transparent in any of the films except the new ones

>>79948417
As far as i know it was only transparent in the 1979 original. Cameron changed the design.

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>>79948417
it's transparent in alien behind the scenes photos but you can't see shit in the movie itself

>>79948587
that's 100% more terrifying than any scene in any of the movies, jesus fuck

>>79947633
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXwe51lkJ6M

>>79948417
>>79948497
>>79948587
I heard it's viable in the blu ray release.

FUCK DUDE I WAS JACKING OFF AND SMOKING WEED! I'M GONNA KILL THIS FUCKING ALIEN LMAO!

>>79944065
>>79944005
>windshield made to withstand space travel
>space nigga breaking it with headbutts
This trailer is a fucking mess, there're like 20 plotholes just in it

>>79948611
not fair, expanse is the most scientifically accurate sci-fi of all time excluding the space-time warping goo

>>79948607
Shut the fuck up, fucking faggot.

>>79948630
See >>79948290

>>79947879
fucking THIS.

it's not helping that the trailer even already spoiled the Xenomorph's full shot.

>>79947782
>>79947865
Why not use the fucking acid it can spit out that melts through multiple floors of 6 inch steel

>>79948712
>spit out
What are you talking about?

>>79948712
The xenomorphs can't spit their own blood

>>79948710
i'm hoping that's not the final boss xeno. I think it's possible that the trailer kept some things secret

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You nerds do this every fucking time.
The CGI always looks shitty in trailers. Just wait for the fucking movie will you.

>>79948712

I actually had to check and its only 3 and Resurrection with xenos that spit acid, so you know what that means THEY CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES NOT CANON

>>79948762
>current year
>trailers are keeping some things about the film secret

Called alien covenant, Was supposed to be called Prometheus 2 god fucking dammit this looks fucking awful

Looked cool to me, maybe you nerds are just too into this shit to just sit back and enjoy shit. Its a fucking Xenomorph bashing its head into the side of a spaceship, have fucking fun for once in your loser ass lives.

>CGI xeno looks like shit
>Movie isn't even out yet

What did Ridley mean by this?

>>79948841
3/10

>wheat
>who planted it?

Isn't wheat a naturally occuring cereal?

>>79944065
why is he not using his tail?

>>79948849
It also looks more fleshy than the original one.

>>79948853
>implying I'm baiting

Of course you would think that. You keep in that autistic little bubble of yours bitching about muh cgi alien doesn't look natural enough, booooo. Everyone else will have fun, fucking nerd.

>>79944065
>wee the looks horrible
>how could they do this ;_;
>nooo triggered DELET THIS

this looks good you fucking triggered autists

>>79948880
Sure but the chances of finding wheat on a other planet is almost zero.

have they ever come up with an explanation for the xeno development/growth in the absence of caloric energy?

It happened in both Alien and Prometheus, where somehow an organism grows several magnitudes and gains a few hundred pounds without having anything to eat.

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shills are getting aggressive

>>79948955
didn't they imply that it was silicon based, so at least in Alien it could have been eating parts of the ship

>>79948955
Its grows based on Silicon.

>>79948955
The vagina squid was actually capable of absorbing the molecules in the air of that medical pod it was in

>>79948964
That file name. Thanks for the morning lol

>>79944065
This might get fixed until release
2nd shot looks good anyway

>>79948955
Originally Giger and crew wanted the Alien to grow fast for evolutionary purposes. Because of this they would have a life-span of only a few days, but would mature and grow quickly, being able to break down materials around them once matured to ingest and grow, which is where the acid comes from, which is also a genetic defensive trait. All of this likely made for the bio-engineered purpose they were created for.

Aliens and beyond sort of removed this trait from them, so now they just seem to grow fast because they were designed that way, and that's it. Its assumed though that they break down a hosts organs from within allowing them to enter into the Larvae Stage, and then break down pieces of the ship or things around them with acid to continue growing faster. Considering they have the ability to merge and convert DNA, its likely that they can stay alive and grow based on a number of elements, whether it be Silicon as some have show (considering their exoskeleton is made out of it), steel, titanium, tin, oxygen, etc.

In short, its bio-engineered evolution for them to consume things in order to grow because they don't live that long.

>>79949061
>>79949078
>>79949240
>>79949102

thank you mates

>>79949271
I was joking about the vagina squid thing

>>79949271
No problem anon.

>>79946074
does anybody have a wallpaper of this? when the alien is almost standing completely up?

>>79946839
F

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>>79948964

>a fucking comedian will kill ayylmaos and save the day

Colonial Muhreens BTFO
Ripley BTFO

so will there be a Noomi Rapace cameo?

>>79949476
lol no

>>79949476
she's dead, bro. I'm wondering if we'll see some decaying corpse like Ripley's failed clone

>>79948955
In the script for Alien, the xeno raids the ship's food storage.

>>79948841

That you, Kenny?

>>79949518
is it confirmed that she's dead?

>>79949446

You forget that Paul Reiser was in Aliens

>>79949580
yeah, David tells a lie to the Covenant crew that Shaw sacrificed herself to prevent the Engineer ship from reaching earth. But David actually uses her to further perfect the xenomorph evolution

>>79949684
if that's true, it's pretty cool

>>79949715
Noomi is credited for the film so I wonder if we'll get a proper flashback but then again it's imdb, could always be misleading

>>79948075
who fucking cares about jewood?

>>79948088
..so?

ayyliens are cool and all that stuff but it will never be exciting movie franchise ever again. mythos and mystery is busted so theres nothing interesting to watch.

>>79949985
they could go with the original idea that the Aliens were an advanced society

I'd like a Wes Anderson Alien one day.

CHAPTER ONE: A face hug from a friend
*cue harpsichord melody*

>>79949985
autists wanted the space jockeys to be giant elephant people. I don't think any lore explanation will make people happy now.

>>79944213
>He doesn't know about miniatures

>>79944352
Hopefully never

>>79944832
>He hasn't seen The Thing, Alien, Aliens, Road Warrior, Fury Road, Blade Runner, Day of the Dead, Pan's Labyrinth, or Star Wars

>>79944065
This stood out. I'm not a cgi autist but this shit was distractingly bad. I hope the effects are unfinished

>>79945134
Honestly, the more realistic something CGI is, the more it sticks out. It's just something about that uncanny valley, like there's too much detail.

>>79946182
Have you heard the plot? Its like he saw avp:r and had a moment of inspiration

>>79950642
Still better than unintentional comedy.

>>79947436
where can I snag a robe like that

>>79950247
>lore exploration
why the fuck do you want to explore lore of space jockeys. who the fuck cares, it was some space nigger that got killed by aliens and fossilized, thats literally all, why would you want to even know more, it only ruins the movie.

>>79944005
What the fuck did you expect?

>>79946074
The less you see of the Alien , the scarier it is. Just look at the Brett scene from the original, the way you just see vague glimpses of the alien, but it's just enough for you to dream up your own idea of what's going on, letting your mind create the fear. Too bad amerifats don't like to think

>>79944005
>complaining about CGI
Thankfully, only autistis complain about such things.

>>79946649
Ridley Scott isn't the guy editing these trailers, I doubt he has any control on what they show.

>>79948921
OP here. After some time I do believe this looks good now. Great Alien design.

>>79946891
Because Aliens took place around a century after this

Why is it headbutting the windshield like that? Did Scott forget that the Xenos are not supposed to be dumb monsters?

>>79950886
Promtheus promo has early looking versions of Pulse Rifles that were standard military

>>79948088
You responded rather quickly, are you here all the time?

>>79951007
Speaking of Prometheus, I quite never got why the guns in that movie seemed to fire some sort of blue energy.

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I liked that scene desu

>>79947749

/tv/ is always right about new releases

First impressions never lie

>>79950795
>The less you see of the Alien , the scarier it is.
A problem with that is that whe have seen a LOT of the Alien throught all these years. Not only in the movies but in all sort of media. Keeping it in the dark holds no real power because we know how it looks like.

>>79944065
>xeno in broad daylight
Ridley has finally given up

>>79944005
>>79944065

Confirmed even worse than Prometheus.

Jesus fuck...

>>79944005
why the fuck is danny mcbride in this movie? is he gonna talk shit with the alien? get drunk and break some chairs or something? what the fuck?

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modern kino fuckin sucks. they take away realism way too often lol lets just settle down on this mysterious planet without protective suits for invisible killing bacteria and lets just not scan planet from atmosphere so theres not some likely change half planet being consumed by some black goo or seeing deserted alien city covered in bodies. fuckin stupid senpai

>>79950247
>autists wanted the space jockeys to be giant elephant people

Better than half-naked space queers. Where the female Engineers at?

>>79951163
>worse than Prometheus
How to spot a pleb

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>>79944005

>>79950743
Bruh, that's what I'm saying.

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>2002 cgi ayyyy

>>79944005
>How can people defend this?
They have never seen anything else.
Young people don't know that practical effects exist plus they were raised on video games and shitty cgi movies.

>>79944005
It's fine

>>79944213
You'll never be a good filmmaker, kid.
Do you really think the cinematography in those scenes is so outstanding and integral to the film that it could not be replaced with other more effective and beautiful angles that would at the same time allow to more conveniently shoot practical effects?

>>79951779
>all that footage of the practical effects work for the Thing prequel
>scrapped due to suits butting in

will be forever bitter about this

>>79950756
Agreed, there's no mystery in movies anymore because women need an explanation for everything

>>79952106

>>79944005
Jesus Christ is that the guy from the ping pong movie

>>79944065
Even the Alien model from Isolation looks better than that.

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So instead of hunting everyone 1 by one Alien is roleplaying as Juggernaut.

>>79944992
The problem is now studio's won't allow them to - it's time consuming and more expensive on average than slapping some CGI dicks.

>>79944243
It's also too expensive.

>>79944005

The only reason you can see that this is CGI is because this is an imaginable creature, something you've never seen in real life before. If they somehow found a real xenomorph and put that in the movie you'd think it was CGI too. Shut the fuck up.

>>79953182
isw the alien played by vinnie jones?

>>79944154
In broad day light? Sorry that would just look even more like shit

Practical and CGI are supposed to be used in sync and to bloviate about how one is lesser than the other just shows how much you don't know about movie making.

>>79944065
What's Seth's weedbro doing in this movie?

>>79945980

Not really, the practical effect parts still look excellent but the CGI (like the TRex lower body when it breaks out from the fence) isnt very good.

Practical effects are always better than CGI for realism. CGI just way too often makes you think "wow thats bad/decent/good CGI" and then your immersion is broken. With practical it just looks more natural and seamlessly blends into the rest of the scene.

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>>79953387
>Practical effects are always better than CGI for realism.

lol no

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>>79953387

lmao

Remember this? Looked like shit. Most practical effect monsters look like stiff dummies. CGI is more believable. When you see a dummy you know 100% it's a dummy. When you see CGI often you can't be sure.

>>79948077
>Cameron

The demented geezer whos dedicated the last decade to some shitty space alien cgi shitfest is probably the worst garbage big money flick-maker out there.

Still the drooling retards will roll here while chanting "cgi rules.... cgi rules...." even though the best cgi is worse than the worst and cheapest practical sfx

>>79953475

Are you trolling/retarded? Rancor scene is still more brutal and terrifying than any cinema monster encounter made with cgi

Tasteless pleb/ retard

>>79953437
are you saying practical effects are bad just because of that scene?

>>79953647
There is an uncanny valley for both so this statement doesn't make much sense.

>>79950571
whats bad about the cgi specifically?

>>79953698

Nah because you can always tell when a dummy is a dummy and you can't always tell if something is CGI. This is why CGI is better.

>>79953437

The way they did and filmed miniatures in the prequels has to go down as the worst fucking use of miniatures ever.

My guess is that they tried doing it in a way that would blend with the CGI. I mean it's ILM, they have competent people. They've built entire model sets filmed as they're being destroyed and it looks great.

How could you fuck up model making that bad if you're not deliberately trying to?

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>>79948760
It did in Alien 3 but that was a different caste

>>79953735
just so we're clear, you do know that dex's diner is a small scale model right?

>>79953679
As someone who absolutely loves Star Wars, no, no its not.

>>79953792

then tell me a monster scene that is better. There isn't any

>>79953771

yes, that's why i posted it.

How come the movies that can only pull off subtlety and pacing these days are indie films?


No big budget movie knows how to do this anymore. The original Alien is impossible in today's climate

>>79953811

Exactly. That's why practical monsters are terrible when the fucking Ranchor is the best you have to offer.

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>>79948313
It sure looked great!

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CGI
LMAO

>>79947998
>Nope, do you?
>proves him right
eh?

>>79944005
Is this scene supposed to be taken seriously or is it like Paxton in Aliens? What genius thought it would be a great idea to cast the guy typecasted as a fat slovenly retard?

>>79954005
no shit might as well get the Paul Blart guy

>>79954005
>>79954076
Who is that guY?

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>>79954084

>>79948771
>The CGI always looks shitty in trailers. Just wait for the fucking movie will you.

Does anyone still believe this?

When did the effects ever improve? I remember people doing the "relax it's not finished" shit with The Hobbit.

Like they fixed anything.

>>79944352
If that happens, I'll kill both him, Ridley, and anyone else connected to the project.

>>79954152
I didn't even recognize him with the beard and cowboy hat.

>>79954076
>Paul Blart X
>Paul Blart accidentally is put in cryostasis
>wakes up in a future mall after its been quarantined for xenomorph infestation
>using mall cop know how he defeats a Xenomorph hive and the Weyland corporation that secretly brought them

Instant dramedy kino

>>79944740
Then why even shoot a scene like that, looks goofy and fake af. Instead film from the inside and use a real mannequin head smacking against the window. Now that would be scary, then you have a real thing trying to get in and the feel of the character witnessing it.

>>79946484
Not to mention it had a great soundtrack going for it as well. People underestimate the power of good music.

>>79950642
Pretty much this, I don't know how many times cgi has stood out to much because it has a different look than its surrounding. Either is too sharp and not matching the rest of the clarity or blur if its out of focus or the lighting is all wack.

>>79944065
eeeehhhhhhhhhhh? NANI?

>>79954271
honestly would be more self-aware than this tripe

>>79954271
THIS SUMMER

PAUL BLART

IN AN OTHERWORLY ADVENTURE

>"WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE'RE A THOUSAND YEARS IN THE FUTURE?"

THAT IS LIKE NOTHING YOU'VE EVER SEEN

fact: the xeno was barely shown in the first one because it was a terrible costume that looked terrible if you stared at it for more than a few seconds

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>>79944065
That actually looks really good.

>>79954427
>enter Paul Blart on his future segue in a dark mall
>cue noises of Xenos
>Paul: "I think we've got a problem, somebody's here... probably trying to steal the bonus from the mall vault"

>>79953335
well dont fucking show it in broad day light

>>79944030
genuinely laughed

>>79954491
>Paul sees a tiny baby xenomorph
>"Oh look how cute it is!"
>Xenomorph yells at him
>he stumbles and falls
>it's funny because he's fat

>>79954491
>Weyland Mercenary: You're just a mall cop!
>Blart: No I'm 'thee' mall cop!

>>79945103
shit, a dude with reinforced head bashing would look so fucking scary on screen, if shot well

>>79954535
>Blart crawls the ventilation
>creaks and collapses under his weight
>lands in the middle of a nest of facehugger eggs
>cue comedic running scene

>>79948921
This, something about this Alien seems really creepy, somehow those fast shivering movements resemble insects and at the same time the black muscular appearance projects dread. I wouldn't want to see it IRL

>>79947194
jesus christ, does anyone even remotely believe that this game will be good, it stinks of SJW nonsense, theyre literally making the females look like shit so that men cant enjoy the waifus and the men look hyper-handsome (except for the afro-nigger) to shit on the players self-esteem, you all know its gonna be a turbo-feminist shitfest

>>79951247

How to spot a contrarian baby.

>>79954535
>he stumbles and falls on the baby xenomorph
>he crushes it without breaking it's shell so it's acid blood doesn't spill.

>>79951109
This doesn't make sense. Alien is a scary movie even if I know what the alien looks like

>>79944005
>CGI is shit and always looks like a video game character placed in the real world.
OP is right, they shouldn't've used CGI in the scenes with a lot of light.
They have shitty CGI anyway and all the CGI faults are magnified by the light.

>>79944352

If it had the aesthetic of Interstellar it would look fucking kino.
Imagine: a chunky, white, used-future Alien-style spaceship corridor lit in glaring white lights that are slamming on and off rhythmically, periodically plunging the scene into darkness.
Suddenly, they slam on and there it is - the alien. It's just appeared there, its arrival unnoticed and unannounced. Blacker than black, contrasted against the white walls of the spaceship, this viscous, vitriol-like form of a glossy, gangly, towering THING looms at the end of the corridor, almost indiscernible at first yet very much an awful presence, the lights still flashing on and off as it slowly advances, its limbs unfolding like the wing casings of some nightmarish insect, absolute silence, not even a hiss from the monster and the constant, disjointed shift between stark white light and deep, impenetrable darkness causing panic and nausea in the viewer, all shot in gorgeous anamorphic panavision while Hans Zimmer's organs boom and the panicked breathing of the scrambling protagonist being the only audible thing as they attempt to blast it out of the airlock.

I mean I don't love Nolan, but he could do a sequence like that well.

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Why are you complaining? How in your opinion this monster should look like? The rubber suit was clanky and some of its parts were excessive, they weren't animated at all. They guy insede couldn't move them. Look at the finger movements of alien, look at the saliva and the way it moves - no way some guy in a rubber suit could do that. And even if he could do that - it would be obvious that this is a guy in a rubber suit because of the way he moves and uses his suit. So what is worse? I think seing real alien movements is a lot better.
And Ridley used a lot of practical effects in this film, just look at the photos from shooting, he made a lot of practical stuff there, lots of animatronics for other shit.

>>79954658
>Blart is eating an Ice Cream
>Facehugger jumps at his face
>Crushes Ice Cream cone
>Blart tard rages and rips the Facehugger off to get his Ice Cream back

>>79944352
>PG-13

>>79944740

>alien movies need action heavy scenes

damn jim cameron

>>79954761
The only people that disliked Pro was a handful of internet autist not the general public.

Stay retarded, anon

>>79954880
I believe we're complaining because it's a fucking Alien in broad daylight clinging to the top of a Shuttle, not hiding or blending in or anything of the sort.

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>>79953278

>>79954819
Wow, corrugated tubes. So much better.

>>79954819
>1986
Look how they used the smoke and the lighting behind the smoke all the while keeping the darkens and the monster in high contrast, that's how you use practical effects, looks better than the CGI bull.

>>79954932
You would complain no matter what.

>>79954880
You could film it from an angle where it looks natural if you wanted to do practical, but it all depends on what type of tone you are going for and what type of action you want. They chose action, and that's what they're doing. There's always a way.

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>>79954819
They had to shoot this in the dark otherwise people would see how shitty this looked.

>>79954957
>practical effects, looks better than the CGI bull
CGI technology is unlike anything before now and far superior to '86 technology. You're a nostalgic fool to believe otherwise.

>>79954996
Man, I'd feel claustrophobic just being in that thing.

>>79955026
THE TECHNIQUE WAS FLAWLESS!
SHUT UUUUP!!

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>>79954819
should've gone with the 1979 alien

>>79954959
Quite possibly, but this is a valid complaint. In a horror film we need to take the Antagonist seriously. When the Alien was shown to be clever and resourceful in the first film, hiding in a foreign environment that it blended in to, it was pretty scary. We may be overexposed to the Alien generally now, but that doesn't mean we need full body shots of it in the middle of the day.

>>79955067
>In a horror film we need to take the Antagonist seriously. When the Alien was shown to be clever and resourceful in the first film, hiding in a foreign
Most of this was done to hide the fact the Alien looked like a guy in a suit. You guys take this "horror" element too far. It was to hide a technical limitation not be scary.

>>79955026
That's nice and dandy an all, but I can still tell when shit ain't real. Jurassic Park knew this, and combined CGI with practical for good results. No reason to get rid of one medium for the other when both can be utilized.

>>79954932
no, some guy said "this is shitty CGI" and others are repeating this, even though they can't describe what is so shitty about it.
Fucking alien should look like a monster with alien physiology and alien movement paterns, but people want to see a guy in a rubber suit, stumbling around corridors, always shot in the dark, always shot half his body, always shot performing boring grabbing movement, always performng iconic second jaw shots from upclose. And you can't do anything else in the rubber suit really, you can't run up and down the walls in this or dodge or flank.

>>79946280
What nu-male cast? Only Key fits that desription.

>>79947601
The actual crew themselves aren't going to populate a planet you retard, you'd end up with a world of inbreds much like yourself.

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>>79955116
guys in suits are pretty scary

>>79954880

They really should have gone with the transparent skull.

The set pics from alien 79 are freaky as fuck.

>>79955152
>That's nice and dandy an all, but I can still tell when shit ain't real. Jurassic Park knew this
Jurassic Park is extremely dated especially in regards to practical effects. Please, anon don't be that guy.

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>>79955064
man, u see more, you like less.

>>79954866

fuck this sounds so awesome

>>79955192

black and white alien film when?

>>79955192
only this is not the guy in the suit on your pic.

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>>79955026
Whatever you say bro. Every time i see CGI I feel cheated out of an experience. Its like they didn't try with the movie, just turn on the CGI machine for five minutes, load up some premade assets from unreal engine and call it a day. If i wanted to see graphics I would have played a video game. Its like the actors cant even act scared either, because nothing is there. They just have to meme something up like: "Holy shit!---"

>>79955275
I was using it as an example of combining practical and CGI for good effect.

>>79944724
You keep posting this and it continues to not be funny. Try again.

>>79955372
This desu, deal with it niggers. CGI will NEVER be real.

>>79946182
Hope you like your Predator with lots of quips

>>79955372
You sound like one of those faggots bitching about "real" music.

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>>79955372
why is the quinn look so metalic? You don't look at this with clear eyes, you see through nostalgia. Some guy who never saw aliens would say practical effects were shit, but you can't aknowledge that because you don't even try to look with clear eyes on the picture.
It gives you some social pleasure to wave around that you old and saw this and that anyone else can't understand your feelings because you are so better than anyone else because you can appreciate this... its all fuckery man, and people can see it.

>>79947587
Predator 2 is underrated and gets shit too much.

>>79955478
Fuck off you little faggot, it takes infinitesimally more talent, practice, and drive to make "real" music with instruments. You pretentious little twat.

>>79955026
Good directors go out of their way to use practical effects and to FIX them with CGI.
Practical effects look better.

>>79955430
and the real guy in a rubber suit would never be able to run on the walls and climb hights faster than heroes. So all he can to do is hide behind boxes and snatch people from ambush?

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>>79955512
Guess you were born in the wrong decade, anon.

>>79955502
She looks metallic because she's a silica based life form. It was the intent of the fucking design since Giger you reject.

>>79955554
>Practical effects look better.
not always. in the 1980-1990s there were a lot of movies with bad practical effects you just don't remember them,

>>79955554
A rubber mask is still a rubber mask. There's nothing real about it or a puppet.

>>79955594
>wrong decade meme

Shut the fuck up you e-cock smoking faggot, and go listen to some electro trash while pondering some Foucault you dirty little nigger.

>>79955625
More real than a fucking computer generated shit fest like the nualien

>>79955586
There's always a way to do things anon, you can't let CGI strangle any creative drive you have.